I've had this theory that there are 2 King Ghidorahs in the Monsterverse. Why? There are cave paintings of Godzilla fighting Ghidorah, yet multiple sources claim that they fought in the Permian, 250 million years ago. So either humans are the first mammals on Earth, or there are 2 Monster Zeros. This second one must have appeared during the Titan War for Hollow Earth. I also believe that Skar King's whip is this Ghidorah's spinal chord, which explains it's mind-bending powers. This is a really interesting theory that I believe you should cover in one of your videos. This also implies that Ghidorah isn't just an individual, but rather a member of an extant race of aliens. A planet where Ghidorahs are the apex predator sounds like an interesting concept to me.
I Godzilla guy what will happen if monster versus Godzilla teams up with Godzilla singular point shin Godzilla and Godzilla earth and Godzilla minus one
Pretty sure it's a piece of her, so he probably just ended up breaking a piece off somehow and realized how it could be used. basically he just got lucky
From the way it glows and shaped it’s likely a vital piece of her head crest that she probably used for some other purpose but I can only guess since it’s not very clear what it’s real purpose was physically speaking
@@videogamevitality7810 technically it kinda did, but there was also a particular lizard there, aswell as a certain moth (that is up for debate, the lizard is not)
@@petroshalkos3453 and don't forget, Shimo was probably on the other side of the planet(Shimo wasn't depicted In the fight, and was not where Godzilla was. So she could have been anywhere on the planet) She knew nothing about Ghidorah. Her ice age was what caused his icy prison. An unintentional side effect from the ice age, that benefited Godzilla and Mothra.(Debatable but likely since she Is so close with Godzilla) GodzillaGuyy said Shimo and Ghidorah had a battle(they did not) and then said the battle between Godzilla and Ghidorah(they did) but then left out Mothra as a possibility. 🤷🏻♂️ Why can't he just tell the lore right? Lol It's already confusing enough.
@@videogamevitality7810 exactly, the lore can be interpreted in may MANY ways, so there is no real point in using it, although I doubt that Shimo knew nothing of Ghidorah.
Me personally, I think a way legendary could show this is just by making an animated series of this with no humans just the monsters and showing the history. Not sure if it would be a bad or good idea, but I would like to see it personally.
That's not a bad idea and the reason why is because if legendary intended or possibly plans to create an animated series that reveals the Titans' origins during the prehistoric past, it would be easier to do since the cgi budget is expensive. So if they tried to create a live action mv prequel tv series that only focuses on the monsters, it would've been too expensive and take alot of hard work.
@Sender-vy9nj true but they can still hire a new director who knows how to direct and create an animated series. So.clearly they're not going to stick with the same director that made netflix skull island series 😭💀. But only time will tell.
It never happened....that was a flat out lie.. It is only implied in the novel that the ice age was the indirect cause of Ghidorah being frozen. It's stated Godzilla is the one who beat him. And Mothra Shimo had nothing to do with it
@@Tom5085watch the movie again Godzilla beat Ghidorah 2 times before the last fight where Ghidorah got supercharged at the power station. The whole movie till the end Ghidorah ran from Godzilla. Director even said if the oxygen destroyer bomb was not used Godzilla would have killed him in the second fight.
@@Tom5085 Mothra was likely there. Shimo was not. Godzilla didn't "need" to go thermo. That was due to humans. If humans had stayed out of it from the start in Antarctica, he would have beat him and tossed him back in the ice, but humans interfered in every single fight.. He would have beat him again at Isla De Mara in the ocean, but they dropped a bomb. And again in Boston, but Ghidorah powered up using a power grid that humans built and placed there. That means, with just Godzilla and Mothra against Ghidorah in their first fight; they just beat him. He was frozen as an indirect consequence to Shimo's ice age She wasn't there
@@excalibur9495 Shimo was not there. The novel confirmed her ice age was an INDIRECT cause to the imprisoning of Ghidorah. Godzilla and Mothra beat him. Shimo was off creating the last ice age. If you want the lore, then you need the facts. Because you can't be bothered to look it up and just take a lie in a video as fact. Well, the novelization disagrees, and Shimo never fought Ghidorah
So this is my timeline, in case the "Goji's species" isn't retconned, which I believe makes more sense: ~300 MYA: First Titans, including Goji species and Shimo species appeared. ~250 MYA: The start of the rival between Goji species and MUTOs, let's just skip Shinomura since we don't really know. ~55 MYA: The appearance of great apes. Their rival with Goji species might have started somewhere later, maybe when Skar started his reign. ~5 MYA: The start of Pliocene, which could possibly the birth of the current Goji. Not long after, he had the fight with Rival, who was also killed by Tiamat later. ~3 MYA: The birth of the current Shimo, who later fought Goji for the Alpha position but was defeated. ~115.000 years ago: The climax of the rival between Goji species and great apes. Skar captured Shimo to cause the last ice age, ended up with Goji imprisoning them in HE. A few individuals of Goji species survived. Some Kong individuals might have escaped Skar's enslavement later with some Iwis and moves to Skull Island. Sometime later, during the ice age, Ghido came to Earth, challenging Goji just to get imprisoned under the ice. ~1100 years ago: The fight between Dagon and MUTO Prime, Prime won.
I just want to point out that it is NEVER said ghidoarh fought shimo. In Skull Island and KOTM it shows Godzilla fighting ghidoarh. Godzilla was the one who sealed ghidoarh away. Ghidorah, now stuck in the ice, was the frozen over when shimo caused her ice age. There was no fight, just the freezing in which Shimo probably had no idea that she had done that
You consider a video filled with misinformation by a dude named GodzillaGuyy who just flat out lied to you a W vid? Pfft. Ok. I guess being wrong suites ya
@@GodzillaGuyy quick question do you know that species evolve from something right so my question is what time do you guess that this ancestor of the Godzilla species came into existence?
Hey Godzilla guy, do you think King Ghidorah ever went in the hollow earth? Imagine the dookies that the kongs would be letting out in mere presence of ghidorah lol. Anyways, road to 200k is real!
No. It is said in the lore Ghidorah was trying to get to the hollow earth point in Antarctica. Godzilla stopped him and the ice age froze him. Shimo never fought Ghidorah. Godzilla did. Her ice age was an indirect consequence
Godzillaguy.. uh somebody said that anguirus was actually the first kaiju to make godzilla bleed it was in tbeyre fight in godzilla raids again in guessing its really hard to see tho (they commented this on your video that gigan wasnt the first to make godzilla bleed)
You don't want that. He obviously lies and can't be trusted with the source material. He just told you Shimo and Ghidorah had a fight, which they did not. He also thinks Megalon is something more than just a JOKE Kaiju. He has no credibility.
question, is it true ghidoragh was a juvenile in KotM cuz I keep hearing from a bunch of people and it makes me confused whether he is or not fully grown
Yes, Godzilla and Mothra beat Ghidorah, while somewhere far away Shimo, for her own reasons, began an ice period and coincidentally froze Ghidorah. she didn't fight him
Incorrect.. Shimo NEVER fought Ghidorah. Only Godzilla and Mothra. It tells us in the novelization that Shimo's ice age indirectly aided Godzilla in freezing Ghidorah. She was nowhere near him. Godzilla and Mothra beat him, got him in a position that ultimately led to his freezing. Also, Godzilla and Shimo have been depicted in a cave painting before. This is also talked about in the novel. Godzilla and Shimo fought before, and Godzilla came out the victor. It even goes as far as to tell us "Godzilla made an example of Shimo." I bring this up because Shimo is never depicted fighting with Godzilla, nor Shimo fighting Ghidorah. Only Godzilla fighting Ghidorah and Godzilla fighting Shimo. So Shimo and Ghidorah have NEVER had a battle.
Ancient cave paintings implies and shows that goji still fought ghidorah, but shimo likely froze ghidorah in place after he got beaten down by goji,mothra and potentially rodan.
It's said that goji had his own group of kaiju helping him, ta leats at the start, but I think near the end when it was less kongs he 1vthe rest, but almost died doing so
@@GodzillaGuyy it's actually said it was a war between Gojira's....such as Dagon... The cave murals even 100% confirm this. You are delusional and need to fix your brain.
@@brandennguyen4726 Godzilla didn't have his own group of Kaiju. He had a race of Gojira. His family and friends. Which chased the Kongs out. There was Mothra on Godzilla's side if you want to count her. But primarily other Gojiras
@@brandennguyen4726 GodzillaGuyy lies about literally everything he wants to be his own canon. Such as Shimo and Ghidorah fighting. Didn't happen. Or Megalon being anything other than a joke Beetle. Lol he even claimed he was over Gigan at one point 🤣 Gigan>>>>>Megalon
a trio of electronics fused with giants won't due shit to a highly durable atomic lizard that has stopped the world from ending multiple times, I swear skibidi kids have no braincells
Before anyone says, "What about this? What about that? It's a youtube short, I can only fit so much, I will at some point make a full video on this!
I've had this theory that there are 2 King Ghidorahs in the Monsterverse. Why? There are cave paintings of Godzilla fighting Ghidorah, yet multiple sources claim that they fought in the Permian, 250 million years ago. So either humans are the first mammals on Earth, or there are 2 Monster Zeros. This second one must have appeared during the Titan War for Hollow Earth. I also believe that Skar King's whip is this Ghidorah's spinal chord, which explains it's mind-bending powers. This is a really interesting theory that I believe you should cover in one of your videos. This also implies that Ghidorah isn't just an individual, but rather a member of an extant race of aliens. A planet where Ghidorahs are the apex predator sounds like an interesting concept to me.
What about the time Godzilla pissed on kongs dead parents bodies
The Monsterverse ancient timeline doesn't make sense
What about the time Godzilla hit the griddy?
I Godzilla guy what will happen if monster versus Godzilla teams up with Godzilla singular point shin Godzilla and Godzilla earth and Godzilla minus one
I still need to know how the hell did skar king out of all kaijus get his wrinkly ass hands on that crystal that controls Shimo
Pretty sure it's a piece of her, so he probably just ended up breaking a piece off somehow and realized how it could be used. basically he just got lucky
From the way it glows and shaped it’s likely a vital piece of her head crest that she probably used for some other purpose but I can only guess since it’s not very clear what it’s real purpose was physically speaking
Go watch goji center
@@Godzilla_575 That's all speculation but the most likely answer
@@Godzilla_575not everything he says is true, just saying. Although I haven't watched his videos on GxK stuff so I don't know about that
Imagine watching that shimo vs gidorah fight
You would die by the mass destruction, either frozen, crushed or fried
Except that fight never even happened 🤦
@@videogamevitality7810 technically it kinda did, but there was also a particular lizard there, aswell as a certain moth (that is up for debate, the lizard is not)
@@petroshalkos3453 and don't forget, Shimo was probably on the other side of the planet(Shimo wasn't depicted In the fight, and was not where Godzilla was. So she could have been anywhere on the planet)
She knew nothing about Ghidorah. Her ice age was what caused his icy prison. An unintentional side effect from the ice age, that benefited Godzilla and Mothra.(Debatable but likely since she Is so close with Godzilla)
GodzillaGuyy said Shimo and Ghidorah had a battle(they did not) and then said the battle between Godzilla and Ghidorah(they did) but then left out Mothra as a possibility. 🤷🏻♂️
Why can't he just tell the lore right? Lol
It's already confusing enough.
@@videogamevitality7810 exactly, the lore can be interpreted in may MANY ways, so there is no real point in using it, although I doubt that Shimo knew nothing of Ghidorah.
Me personally, I think a way legendary could show this is just by making an animated series of this with no humans just the monsters and showing the history. Not sure if it would be a bad or good idea, but I would like to see it personally.
Almost like a "Walking With Dinosaurs"-like show, like the animated short Dangerville put up a while back, "Walking with Godzilla"
That's not a bad idea and the reason why is because if legendary intended or possibly plans to create an animated series that reveals the Titans' origins during the prehistoric past, it would be easier to do since the cgi budget is expensive.
So if they tried to create a live action mv prequel tv series that only focuses on the monsters, it would've been too expensive and take alot of hard work.
@@reptilo7099 and also it is not like it’s the first time for legendary doing animation because they did make a mediocre skull Island show
@Sender-vy9nj true but they can still hire a new director who knows how to direct and create an animated series.
So.clearly they're not going to stick with the same director that made netflix skull island series 😭💀.
But only time will tell.
Honestly would love to see ghidorah planet explained
Shimo vs monster zero is crazy
Yo guys stop telling me that shimo never fought Ghidorah I now know that no need to flame me
It never happened....that was a flat out lie..
It is only implied in the novel that the ice age was the indirect cause of Ghidorah being frozen. It's stated Godzilla is the one who beat him. And Mothra
Shimo had nothing to do with it
@@videogamevitality7810 did he go thermo again because he beaten by Ghidorah in kotm until mothra came to help
@@Tom5085watch the movie again Godzilla beat Ghidorah 2 times before the last fight where Ghidorah got supercharged at the power station. The whole movie till the end Ghidorah ran from Godzilla. Director even said if the oxygen destroyer bomb was not used Godzilla would have killed him in the second fight.
@@odin1185 I am watching the movie again
@@Tom5085 Mothra was likely there.
Shimo was not.
Godzilla didn't "need" to go thermo. That was due to humans.
If humans had stayed out of it from the start in Antarctica, he would have beat him and tossed him back in the ice, but humans interfered in every single fight..
He would have beat him again at Isla De Mara in the ocean, but they dropped a bomb.
And again in Boston, but Ghidorah powered up using a power grid that humans built and placed there.
That means, with just Godzilla and Mothra against Ghidorah in their first fight; they just beat him. He was frozen as an indirect consequence to Shimo's ice age
She wasn't there
I think this would personally work better as a whole video but this is still pretty good
Rip Dagon...he got stick bug primed :
Godzilla basically lived with dinosaurs so GODZILLA DOOM ISLAND TRENDMASTERS IS CANON!
You should do another what if godzilla combined his dna with ??
Hmm,If it Does not make sense, maybe Rearrange the timeline your way.
And add in events that never even happened 😐
You should make a full video for this :p
While it is a sloppy nonsense, I feel like Wingard would just be like “eh yeah”
Video idea: can super charge Godzilla defeat/kill monster zero?
yes.
Shimo vs ghidorah would make a bit sense since in KOTM the noodle necks where in an ice prison or in a frozen state
Frosted by a screaming popsicles
Except the fight never happened.
It's implied her ice age was the indirect cause of his freezing.
It is SAID Godzilla is the one who beat him..
@@videogamevitality7810 more like Godzilla, Mothra and Shimu teamed up to beat Ghidorah.
@@videogamevitality7810 shimo: assist +30
@@excalibur9495 Shimo was not there. The novel confirmed her ice age was an INDIRECT cause to the imprisoning of Ghidorah. Godzilla and Mothra beat him. Shimo was off creating the last ice age.
If you want the lore, then you need the facts. Because you can't be bothered to look it up and just take a lie in a video as fact.
Well, the novelization disagrees, and Shimo never fought Ghidorah
Even though there's not a lot of info out there I really like the attempts to construct some workable MV timeline 👍👍👍
Nice short
It could have been. If he didn't lie to you in it
Great video!
So this is my timeline, in case the "Goji's species" isn't retconned, which I believe makes more sense:
~300 MYA: First Titans, including Goji species and Shimo species appeared.
~250 MYA: The start of the rival between Goji species and MUTOs, let's just skip Shinomura since we don't really know.
~55 MYA: The appearance of great apes. Their rival with Goji species might have started somewhere later, maybe when Skar started his reign.
~5 MYA: The start of Pliocene, which could possibly the birth of the current Goji. Not long after, he had the fight with Rival, who was also killed by Tiamat later.
~3 MYA: The birth of the current Shimo, who later fought Goji for the Alpha position but was defeated.
~115.000 years ago: The climax of the rival between Goji species and great apes. Skar captured Shimo to cause the last ice age, ended up with Goji imprisoning them in HE. A few individuals of Goji species survived. Some Kong individuals might have escaped Skar's enslavement later with some Iwis and moves to Skull Island.
Sometime later, during the ice age, Ghido came to Earth, challenging Goji just to get imprisoned under the ice.
~1100 years ago: The fight between Dagon and MUTO Prime, Prime won.
I just want to point out that it is NEVER said ghidoarh fought shimo. In Skull Island and KOTM it shows Godzilla fighting ghidoarh. Godzilla was the one who sealed ghidoarh away. Ghidorah, now stuck in the ice, was the frozen over when shimo caused her ice age. There was no fight, just the freezing in which Shimo probably had no idea that she had done that
Can you do a vid about me
W vid
It’s sad that methuselah isn’t popping up in the monster verse
RIP methuselah 😢
@@thesadmobydestroyer fr
You consider a video filled with misinformation by a dude named GodzillaGuyy who just flat out lied to you a W vid?
Pfft. Ok. I guess being wrong suites ya
I was going to do a video on this 😭
you still can
lez go another short by the GOAT
The misinformationist you mean.
Shinomura was retconed, we need to accept it g guy, it's about time 😭
I feel like if we took the rival against modern day Godzilla… it’d be a way different fight 😅
Oh he would kill the Rival lol
That's why he was going to the lair Tiamat was in. He didn't even know she was there.
And then Godzilla woke up in the 50s to attack japan
chibi godzilla vs monsterverse will be crazy
Can u do top 5 strongest godzillas i saw your top 5 biggest and it was good af lol
Day 2: who is the strongest kaiju in the monsterverse
When it comes to physical strength, it's shimo
@@GodzillaGuyy quick question do you know that species evolve from something right so my question is what time do you guess that this ancestor of the Godzilla species came into existence?
rip rival imma bring him back in my stories
The background music
Hey Godzilla guy, do you think King Ghidorah ever went in the hollow earth? Imagine the dookies that the kongs would be letting out in mere presence of ghidorah lol. Anyways, road to 200k is real!
No.
It is said in the lore Ghidorah was trying to get to the hollow earth point in Antarctica. Godzilla stopped him and the ice age froze him.
Shimo never fought Ghidorah.
Godzilla did. Her ice age was an indirect consequence
Godzillaguy.. uh somebody said that anguirus was actually the first kaiju to make godzilla bleed it was in tbeyre fight in godzilla raids again in guessing its really hard to see tho (they commented this on your video that gigan wasnt the first to make godzilla bleed)
You should make a video series on all the main Godzilla series Mr Godzilla Guy.
You don't want that. He obviously lies and can't be trusted with the source material.
He just told you Shimo and Ghidorah had a fight, which they did not.
He also thinks Megalon is something more than just a JOKE Kaiju.
He has no credibility.
Then you go ahead and make the videos
What background music do you use in some of your shorts?
Godzilla (blue oyster cult) synth cover
@@jurassicguardian924X thanks
Good enough for me
Are you gonna talk about mushroom cloud godzilla and the man in the suit?
Nice timeline
WRONG**** timeline
Misinformation at it's best
Godzilla wrecked skar king to the point where I'm starting to believe g14 could beat him
I thought Shimo was only 3 million
Finally the first one
Can you do King vs MechaGodzilla and say why he mecha would win in a fight? Not a death battle of course
Shinomura isn't canon anymore since monarch retco'ed her from existence
W timeline
I need to know this. What Godzilla are you ?
Guy Godzilla
question, is it true ghidoragh was a juvenile in KotM cuz I keep hearing from a bunch of people and it makes me confused whether he is or not fully grown
I hear godzilla the song
Isn’t it still Godzilla who beat ghidorah as the only info we have for that is that shimo froze him not fought
Yes, Godzilla and Mothra beat Ghidorah, while somewhere far away Shimo, for her own reasons, began an ice period and coincidentally froze Ghidorah. she didn't fight him
@@ediakin4993THANK YOU.
Like wtf is Godzilla Guy on about? Shimo and Ghidorah never fought. If that happened, Shimo wouldn't be here
Pretty decent ngl
So shimo and Methuselah are the first.
Background music?
Zamn
Yay
you forgot the part where Godzilla and Mothra fought ghidorah
wow
Wait what was that monkey photo
Who did rodan figjt and how did he win?
Who writes this stuff? Is there a comic or something?
OFC goji guy uploads a video when I'm about to go to bed, SMH.
But shimo is only 3million yrs old
Shimo isn't 300 million years old. She is 3 million years old, and shimo never fought ghidorah, godzilla did.
Hell yea
I think Godzilla and Shimo both fought monster zero but shimo got the final blow.
Incorrect..
Shimo NEVER fought Ghidorah.
Only Godzilla and Mothra.
It tells us in the novelization that Shimo's ice age indirectly aided Godzilla in freezing Ghidorah.
She was nowhere near him. Godzilla and Mothra beat him, got him in a position that ultimately led to his freezing.
Also, Godzilla and Shimo have been depicted in a cave painting before. This is also talked about in the novel. Godzilla and Shimo fought before, and Godzilla came out the victor. It even goes as far as to tell us "Godzilla made an example of Shimo."
I bring this up because Shimo is never depicted fighting with Godzilla, nor Shimo fighting Ghidorah. Only Godzilla fighting Ghidorah and Godzilla fighting Shimo.
So Shimo and Ghidorah have NEVER had a battle.
hmm interesting the more i know the more understand that at the end of the day kaijus make no sense
What about giant skeleton titan ?
Well if shinomura was first. Your video saying godzilla dropped his tail after the fight with the rival would not make sense anymore
That's why it was a theory 💀
I hate that they change Ghidorah story
Instead Godzilla it Shimo who freeze Ghidorah
Ancient cave paintings implies and shows that goji still fought ghidorah, but shimo likely froze ghidorah in place after he got beaten down by goji,mothra and potentially rodan.
Wasn’t shinomura confirmed not canon by MLOM castle bravo seen
When I had my talk with Greg Keyes, I asked if he his novels were still canon, and he said yes, so in turn, shinomura, and he is talked about in them
Shimo is only 3 million years old small currection.
Uhhh no??
@@K.Pershing yes shimo is only 3 million years old acording to officiel sources(like the novelisation)
@@user-mv9oz3tr8z where in the novesilsation does it say that
Monsterverse Hedorah
He Be Male
Yippay
Hey i got a question the great ape war what was it like was it ape v ape or ape v all titans or was it ape v gman
It's said that goji had his own group of kaiju helping him, ta leats at the start, but I think near the end when it was less kongs he 1vthe rest, but almost died doing so
@@GodzillaGuyy it's actually said it was a war between Gojira's....such as Dagon...
The cave murals even 100% confirm this.
You are delusional and need to fix your brain.
Ok good to know thx
@@brandennguyen4726 Godzilla didn't have his own group of Kaiju. He had a race of Gojira. His family and friends. Which chased the Kongs out.
There was Mothra on Godzilla's side if you want to count her. But primarily other Gojiras
@@brandennguyen4726 GodzillaGuyy lies about literally everything he wants to be his own canon. Such as Shimo and Ghidorah fighting. Didn't happen.
Or Megalon being anything other than a joke Beetle. Lol he even claimed he was over Gigan at one point 🤣
Gigan>>>>>Megalon
Didn’t Godzilla fight monster 0
He and mothra did once, and then shimo
@@GodzillaGuyy thx
Bro so these skibidi kids say that tri titan from skibidi toilets say he can solo godzilla show em who is the real king
That’s crazy same with CaseOh and Kong can solo Godzilla
a trio of electronics fused with giants won't due shit to a highly durable atomic lizard that has stopped the world from ending multiple times, I swear skibidi kids have no braincells
I not understand
So ghidorah beat Godzilla and Godzilla beat shimo but shimo beat ghidorah da fuck type of Pokémon logic is this 😂😂😂😂
You dropped this 📌 could I get it?
Godzilla is exactly 1523 miles from your location and is approaching rapidly, start running
Ewwww
Can cadora is from another planet species alien
Day 3 of asking why it is godzillaguyy and not godzillaguy
Because he likes being wrong. Just like telling you Shimo and Ghidorah fought..they didn't