Brake-Slamming BART Turn In Oakland Is The Result Of An Old Political Favor

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  • Опубліковано 6 тра 2019
  • The sharp, brake-slamming BART turn beneath the streets of downtown Oakland is the result of a 1960s political favor that changed BART's original design. Wilson Walker reports. (5-7-2019)

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  • @ScottRuen
    @ScottRuen 5 років тому +20

    and history repeats itself. not a day goes by that our elected officials don't scratch someone's back at our expense

  • @craigheaps7520
    @craigheaps7520 5 років тому +29

    Mike Healy (BART) and Ron Wilson (SFO) were the two best spokespersons I ever dealt with during my 40-year career in TV news.

  • @rattiegirl5
    @rattiegirl5 5 років тому +21

    My father worked on the plans of the BART tunnels. One of this areas that he worked on was that turn where the train always creaks. Given the limitations of where the tunnels could run, it was a challenge to design that turn.

  • @ericriggsbee
    @ericriggsbee 5 років тому +12

    This is fascinating! I am watching this on my BART commute.

  • @GiTxSHuM
    @GiTxSHuM 5 років тому +11

    I always wonder why they go very slow to turn. Never thought this would be covered lol. Thanks.
    Should tell anyone who complains about the back story.

    • @alanyu7732
      @alanyu7732 5 років тому +1

      Turning fast at such a sharp angle can cause bad wear and tear for the tracks and possible derailment. So with such sharp turns, it is suggested that trains go slower. Also all lines pass by Oakland Wye to get to Lake Merritt, 12th St, or West Oakland, so it’s a safety measure to go slow to avoid collision.

  • @karamjeetkaur1474
    @karamjeetkaur1474 3 роки тому +12

    bart: *wants tunnel
    Oakland: no it goes under some hardware store
    bart: but then all of the trains will be going under 20 mph
    Oakland :TO BAD ITS GOING UNDER 9TH STREET

  • @CityLifeinAmerica
    @CityLifeinAmerica 5 років тому +16

    Shame they did all of this and the hardware store is still gone. They should reopen it, maybe make it an ace hardware

    • @Rubycon99
      @Rubycon99 2 роки тому

      The building is completely gone. It's apartments and a now abandoned buffet place.

  • @paulnewsom7629
    @paulnewsom7629 5 років тому +19

    Back when bart was built i Never Thought it would have So many People in Future on it ,I was born and Raised in Bay Area when it ,,Was a Great place to be 63 to 84 ,Moved Away in 2014 ,,They just have to many people in Bay Area an Natives most not All ,,Long Gone. ,,Thanks to Silcon Valley being built up and Rancid Air ,its best days are Long ,Long Gone since 84

    • @yusefkhan1752
      @yusefkhan1752 5 років тому +2

      Paul Newsom yeah it’s a shame the Bay Area was planned so stupidly. Whoever designed the bay is a total moron. It feels like the Philippines or India level infrastructure but 1/10th the people.

    • @Milesco
      @Milesco 5 років тому +1

      @ Paul : Sadly that's true. The air quality is actually pretty good, but everything else has gone to shit. ☹

    • @joediver7669
      @joediver7669 4 роки тому +1

      Air quality is infinitely better now than in 84 due to CARB emissions restrictions on cars and cleaner fuel.

    • @joediver7669
      @joediver7669 4 роки тому

      @@yusefkhan1752 Are you under the impression that one person designed the bay area?

  • @rollinwithunclepete824
    @rollinwithunclepete824 5 років тому +18

    From 30mph to >20mph for how long, 10 seconds, 30, 60 or more? Electric train have pretty acceleration. The greater problem is wheel flange/rail wear - probably the cause of the derailment shown in this piece.

    • @sfmike711
      @sfmike711 3 роки тому +2

      @Rollin With Uncle Pete : The derailment that you mention (at 0:52) was not due to flange/rail wear. It was a crash. A train coming from SF going to 12th Street had manual run orders with a run limit since a train was already going from Lake Merritt to 12th Street in automatic. The train from SF ran the limit and crashed into the train from Lake Merritt.

  • @jasonsummers7129
    @jasonsummers7129 5 років тому +15

    I wanted to know “wye”

  • @mikeplott292
    @mikeplott292 5 років тому +14

    Should be called B.A.W.E. (Bay Area White Elephant) Always having problems -- they are behind the times when it comes to handling electrical problems and maintaining security. I remember the train slowing down and enduring that same screeching sound back in 1972!

  • @mrrobot5963
    @mrrobot5963 4 роки тому +5

    And I thought Toronto's transit issues were ridiculous

  • @taureanspiritualgoddess4449
    @taureanspiritualgoddess4449 5 років тому +11

    Bart makes miliions a Day. A DAY!!!. Prices go up every other year. There's no excuse for not having more trains, better railings, an all the problems it has every year. Where is the money going?

    • @CalifornianSupremacy
      @CalifornianSupremacy 5 років тому +7

      Ilana Ali It’s going towards increasing already sky high Employee Salaries and ballooning pensions.

    • @taureanspiritualgoddess4449
      @taureanspiritualgoddess4449 5 років тому +1

      @@CalifornianSupremacy to do what hide in the break room all day am half clean? Bart bathrooms don't even put a roll of tissue in there with a real lock on the tissue they give u one square at a time. They disrespect their customers 24/7

    • @jayjohn9680
      @jayjohn9680 4 роки тому +1

      Low overhead is the tell tale mark of a corrupt system.

  • @limegpt
    @limegpt 5 років тому +7

    Why does it always slow down right before West Oakland coming from Embarcadero?

    • @alanyu7732
      @alanyu7732 5 років тому +1

      Thats because of the automatic control system that won’t let trains get too close to each other. A lot of trains pass by San Francisco, especially during rush hour. Trains will stop in the tunnel, usually because the train in front is occupying the platform or because it is too close.

    • @daryllect6659
      @daryllect6659 4 роки тому +1

      Because the train is afraid...

  • @horny99845
    @horny99845 5 років тому +3

    A tree is the reason why the BMT Broadway make a sharp left turn at 8th street

    • @Exedus20
      @Exedus20 5 років тому +4

      sharp left turn... thats where most of the bay area's problems come from.

    • @whiteclifffl
      @whiteclifffl 5 років тому +1

      home dreams Great comment. And SO true!!

  • @slowpoke96Z28
    @slowpoke96Z28 2 роки тому +1

    This is so cool to know.

  • @michaelboccino5251
    @michaelboccino5251 5 років тому +6

    No One Drives the Train ' Its Computerized ' So When A Driver Has to Manually Drive the Train ' They Have Problems ' All the Motorman Does is Close the Doors '

    • @jamalcole1985
      @jamalcole1985 5 років тому +1

      True. Can I get an Amen? lol

    • @michaelboccino5251
      @michaelboccino5251 5 років тому

      @@jamalcole1985 So Sad When I First Remember Bart Opening in the 70's If They Only Kept up With the System '

    • @alanyu7732
      @alanyu7732 5 років тому +1

      michael boccino Bart has been using automatic controls since it opened in 1972.

    • @michaelboccino5251
      @michaelboccino5251 5 років тому

      @@alanyu7732 I Know Built By Westinghouse Made in America '🇱🇷

  • @safeatthird6060
    @safeatthird6060 5 років тому +2

    wow.

  • @kennethjeong8054
    @kennethjeong8054 10 місяців тому

    The slow speed isn't so bad but its painfully loud from the screech.

  • @MrSquareart
    @MrSquareart 5 років тому +2

    WOW!! could they ever fix it now???

    • @MrSquareart
      @MrSquareart 5 років тому +1

      @@onorebakasama true true maybe a new baby tunnel could fix it. I have only been on the BART once or twice.

  • @larailfan1714
    @larailfan1714 5 років тому +4

    0:33- you missed saying that it is a new BART train and then you completely excluded the Pittsburgh/ Bay Point line. You really could do better KPIX 5

  • @aubreyaubrey5193
    @aubreyaubrey5193 5 років тому +6

    Bart needs more new trains, the old ones stink!

    • @Cards8114
      @Cards8114 5 років тому +1

      They are being delivered by trucks as we speak

  • @SingleFosterDad
    @SingleFosterDad Рік тому

    what about when the train ran off the track

  • @brentduanefoster
    @brentduanefoster Рік тому

    Wow, karma sometimes strikes fast.

  • @beatpirate8
    @beatpirate8 Рік тому +1

    That’s dumb. Why would you make a turn for a friend.

  • @chicago-l9125
    @chicago-l9125 3 роки тому

    Looks like this is one time "eminent domain" wasn't so eminent, at least in this case anyway.

  • @TheCloakedTiger
    @TheCloakedTiger 4 роки тому +1

    Tight turn for BART? Ummm. Yeah. That is called the Oakland Wye? 15MPH speed limits through there. That is why its slow...
    ... And also because of a lack of funding and investment toward transportation and politics... *BARF*

  • @grujber7342
    @grujber7342 2 роки тому

    really they should dig a new tunnel

  • @InsaneFirebat
    @InsaneFirebat 5 років тому +3

    You all have to sift through road signs in multiple languages? lol no wonder you need automated cars over there.

  • @yungsammysosa6201
    @yungsammysosa6201 2 роки тому

    Sad part they are all laughing at this stupid s***

  • @kevinhoward9593
    @kevinhoward9593 Рік тому

    Oh come on now. people are complaining about a train turning 90 degrees? Newsflash, subways do it all over the world.

  • @whiteclifffl
    @whiteclifffl 5 років тому +1

    Nice virtue signaling with your stupid rainbow eye logo, KPIX. So much for objective journalism.