How to make Psytrance Bass in Xfer Serum
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
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Today we take a look at putting together a Psytrance bass patch in Xfer Serum, set up some macros and look at some processing for the sound.
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Favourite bass tutorial so far for serum! Thanks so much! For a noob this will help so much to tighten up my sound 🙏
I really appreciate your insights to setting up macros for fine tuning. Your training style is comprehensive and thorough. Thanks Marula Music.
wow, one of the best tutorials I have ever seen, this info will improve my tracks so much :) Thanká a lot!
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Great video! Thanks for sharing!!
Extremly good tutorial. I will only tell you one important thing that i observed. I lovee the trick with the noise for the click, amazing idea, but it has low end! You'd have to high pass the noise if you want to use it for the click
Big fan. Nice work Nate!
Very helpful. Great step-by-step walkthrough of the end-to-end process. Very well done. Plus, I like that it scales across tempos, due to the envelope controls. Very cool stuff.
Thanks so much. Really enjoyed the tutorial.
Nice tutorial! The most complete! Thank you!
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This is it!! psy trance bassline explained 100% correct no flaws thanks :D
I've actually changed my process a bit in my latest productions... will have to do a 2020 update soon :)
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@@MarulaMusic Still waiting for 2022 update ... Maybe with Bitwig ;-)
Great vid my guy, definitely helped me with my first psytrance style drop 👌🏻
Instead of the final eq touch, a suggestion would be to use the Convert to FFT feature and remove the harmonic there, this way it will be gone from other notes too :) Loved the LFO click trick!
nice one , very different control with lfos :D
What a lovely tutorial. Thank you a lot!
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The biggest problem with this approach is that the tail of the kick when reaching the fundamental (in this case G @49Hz) can clash with the first 16th bass note with the same frequency. This will lead to either MORE boost on that frequency or some frequency cancelation.
I tend to use a sawtooth where the fundamental is missing (in this case no 49Hz) and I have a second track with a sine wave. This way, the first 16th of the bass has no 49Hz but the kick has so they are not clashing and the next two 16th are full range with both the "no fund saw" and "fund sine" playing.
If the base line changes and goes semitone up for instance then I'm using both "no fund saw" and "fund sine".
Its not a problem per se... that's why I set the sine on a macro so it can be dialed in as needed. I usually add an envelope to the kick so the crossover between the tail and the bass notes is minimal. Splitting them like you said works too I guess, although if you really want to pull out the sub on the first note you can use an additional LFO as an Aux mod source to pull it out.
The sawtooth you're using has already plenty of energy @ 49Hz. The sine you are using isn't really controlling the gain of low frequency but it ADDS even more to the existing generated by the sawtooth. That'a why I'm proposing the idea of splitting the bass to a sawtooth that has NO fundamental and a sine for the lowest frequency. You can find the wavetable I'm talking about in singles -> HPF Saw. Give it a try and let me know what you think!
@@ZodiacMusicPro Yeah I'm well aware the saw has energy... in fact it has that same fundamental already and the sine is intended to add more to the fundamental that is already there. Not every track is going to be the same... lower bpm stuff I like a little more in the sub range for example. The patch is designed as a template, like i said, with the macros there to allow you to dial in a little extra should you want it or should the track require it rather than resorting to EQ since EQ won't follow chord changes, which I often do. Not every track will need it. I'll check out your suggestion as well.
@@MarulaMusic I get that the patch is designed as a template although I personally prefer to have more control and have a whole channel only for the fund. By the way:
1. You can disable pitch tracking on OSC B (and A) which can be also used for a click and then you can use the noise, well for noise :)
2. You can remove the fundamental of any wavetable you load. Just need to go to -> Osc table edit -> Process -> Remove Fundamental (HPF).
@@MarulaMusic When you do note changes, how do you deal with this if you are using pure Saw wave? Do you automate your EQ?
atm i am just bouncing to audio and gain staging them induvidually. Also I wanted to ask if there is any third party plugin for Cubase Multiband Transient shaper, as I am using Ableton. Thanks for all your excellent tutorials man! Big fan :)
Have you tried Kelvin by ToneProjects?
Thanks Nat! What do you think about FxPansion Strobe for bass?
I've used Strobe... I loved the sound, didn't really gel with the interface. Its really just down to whether the oscillator can be reset and whether the filters and envelopes sound right for what you're doing. Pretty sure Strobe could be really good for bass.
Maybe try to copy the baseline like Sahara of Astrix ? I know he used Trilogy synth.
how to make it snappy but still melodic ? eg in astrix moonshine, or sahara ? It is clicky, snappy but it has a melodic body / sustain ? How to get that color ?
Where to find that nord wavetable?
I created those myself.
where can i get the nord wavetables?
They're in my psychedelic Toolbox Vol 2 presets
hi bro,
I could ask you to do a tutorial on creating bass and arpeggios lines for melodic techno/music and progressive house music , like guy j, guy mantzur, artbat, etc.. thanks :D
I'll look into it... been doing a lot more prog stuff under my Protocultur alias lately.
@@MarulaMusic can u plz do a track break down for protoculture stuff like laguna or descent i love
Sub/OSC B isn't going to the Filter 1, so it's not getting any filter envelope on it. Wonder if this is on purpose.
You could if you wanted but it doesn’t really need to. Since it’s just a sine wave there is no upper harmonic content that needs filtering like the saw. Kinda the same thing as boosting that root frequency with eq but this way it’ll follow the key you’re playing.
Just curious, how do you add extra harmonics to a saw wave when it it should already theoretically contain all harmonics in the series?
You're referring to the Blackbox HG 2 in the inserts right? Just becasuse a source contains all harmonics doesn't mean you can't adjust, amplify or add more (read 'on top of exitsint') to your waveform... you're correct, a saw would have all the harmonics present (you can see this in Serum if you convert it in the fft) starting with the fundamental being most prominent and rolling off as you move up the spectrum. The HG2 in the insert chain tends to amplify harmonics in the signal after its left serum. Run a sine wave through HG2 and look at an analyzer... you can see where the harmonics are being added.
@@MarulaMusic Thanks for the response. I was just curious when you were speaking about and demonstrating the interpolation between the different sawtooths.
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I can't see any issue... just managed to create a new account and sign in. Tried another browser perhaps?
@@MarulaMusic I have tried using two browsers and no joy.
Do you think you can create the same Kick and Bass like Astrix Sahara? i think its a whole new level
They all vary a bit but you should be able to get close to that sound with the right processing. I have a feeling that bass line is done with Cronox 2 though... old vst, discontinued now and won't work if you're running a 64bit DAW.
@@MarulaMusic Thanks for the reply. I like your tutorial in sonic academy got both of them.
Keep making them ! i learned alot.
and maybe try to achieve this bass from Sahara, crazy punches. would be cool to learn that.
@@MarulaMusic you can run Cronox2 on 64 bit DAW with JBridge
@@papuyonic if you can find the installers... Linplug closed its site down. Jbridge will work but it's never ideal... Ive tried some plugins with it with mixed results. Quadra fuzz for instance had all sorts of graphics bugs, preset loading problems etc.
@@MarulaMusic yeah quadrafuzz it's full of bugs on ableton but I have cronox2 installer and works fine on ableton if you want I can send it for you
Why you bee so nervous with the mouse cursor? This make me nerous too. Otherwise nice video!
what's the name of that skin you got on serum?
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Great video. I hope You will keep making videos on Your channel. Im very happy to share Your video on my forum for music producers (~10k users) so perhaps You will gain some subs.
Did You consider doing live streams in the future? Like Giuseppe Ottaviani? That would be amazing to watch, Regards :)
I'll think about live streams at a later stage... for now though gonna be trying to do a video every week or so if I can keep up with the schedule.
Great tutorial! What Serum skin is that?
Comes with the latest version of serum.
I'm 99% there
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gut stuff but no way you can do it without all of these expensive plugs, sir
You could probably substitute everything with stock plug-ins... Serum isn't all that expensive if you do it on rent to own either
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bad bass..