But a 7800x3d is mostly used for gaming right? Cos even if you want to do tasks other than gaming like editing and stuff you could instead go for Intel and get a CPU with more cores
@@asm8048 Competitive titles will really benefit from that, plus maybe that person needs it for heavy cpu tasks as well. Its not bad to have gpu bottleneck, cpu bottleneck is much worse.
@@asm8048 in premiere pro theres an option to use GPU for preview and rendering, and with that on it doesnt use CPU that much, speaking from experience.
Lol intel with more cores...bruh.. you're graduating too much from some random small time youtuber..the 7800x3d is fine for rendering and stuff for the price@@asm8048
Thank you, for the comment I'm about to upgrade my PC after a while and I'm going almost all out. Was thinking of buying the 7800x3d and the 7800xt. To try to play games on 1440 or even 4k.❤
@@void-bot8071 I upgraded after using an i5 6600k and a GTX 1070 for eight years. The difference is night and day. I play using a 3440x1440 display, I’m sure it could handle 4K well in most titles.
@@rightjoycon8452 I used and still use the gtx 1660 super and i5 12500. Which is not bad it can play most games pretty good. But I want something better
For competitive gaming, especially if you want high fps at a lower resolution, you should probably go with a better CPU. If your build has a better CPU then GPU it’s also way easier to upgrade your GPU later on
@@cliqinheads7545 games like Cs go valorant leauge , etc are all Cpu intensive. Meaning if you have high end Cpu and low end gpu you get the max frames. For eg anything above rtx 2060 is already bottlenecking in gpu side so pairing 7800x3d with 2060 will give you 500+ fps. Basically if you only play competitive games like me then its very worth it.
In case of rtx 4060 You really don't need anything above than ryzen 5 7600 or i5 13600k at 1080p this combo can push this gpu to its limits and pump as many frames as possible
Thsts what I was thinking of doing right now I just want to play all types of games in 1440p and I don't think I want to be changing my cpu any time soon but my gpu is much easier
@@truespecialist8832 do it bro i went 7800x3d with a cheap 6750xt and it shreds 1440p. Going big on cpu sooo worth it and nobody on yt talks about it. If ur cpu isn’t a beast ur never gonna get full potential out of ur gpu
There's nothing wrong with buying a high-end CPU like this with more of a mid-range GPU to future-proof your system. Easy to upgrade the GPU down the road.
It's also easy to upgrade you CPU especially on AM5. What is the point in kneecapping your current performance for a future where a midrange cpu will be equal or better than the 7800x3d?
@@OneShotCS not all of them, but you said yourself - competitive esports. That's really a small portion of mostly fps games in which the 7800X3D is not king. In fact those titles are among the few where the otherwise pretty much garbage 7900X3D/950X3D make sense.
It depends... we ate right now at a point where pci 5.0 is not used by the current gen of gpu. If you buy tjis combo you are ready to upgrade to a 5.0 card in the future
I think alot of people forget that a 1440p Monitor also costs more than 1080p. So the upgrade or budget balance might not help if you are not willing to buy a better monitor too.
@@yeetyawyeet8981thats what i do and many people i know: going big in CPU and then a few mid range GPU Upgrades along the line Till the CPU hast too less Power. Have at the Moment a Intel i7 5930k and i will Upgrade to the zen 5 x3d 16 core CPU and GPU will be a 5070 or a 6070. Idk when i will Upgrade to my next gpu
@@RafiqueCande-iw6sn I have this exact setup 7800x3d and a 4060 rtx and it’s stable on basically everything you throw at it I wanna upgrade just to have the best tbh
Do you play triple A titles like Starfield or any demanding one, or do you do online competitive gaming, like tarkov, pubg etc? Also what's the resolution, i am asking in references to gpu bottlenecking.
@@zaidkhalid3743 I am playing single players games on a 1080p monitor. The heaviest was Cyberpunk. On Ultras it was 118-130FPS. GPU usage 93-99% CPU around 80% if I remember correctly. Rarely jumped up to 90%. Then I changed resolution to 1440p. FPS droped to 120-90 FPS. 90FPS in rare scenarios. GPU usage not changed. CPU usage droped up to 70% May be I lie little bit, because I played about 4 months ago, but numbers are something about I mentioned. I was researching and found out that 7500F is enough even with RTX 4070 Super. Some people say 4070 Super Ti works fine too. P.S. 1440p is not a native resolution for my monitor but picture is better with it. I think if I had 1440p monitor the number were even better.
@@KeymoreNick Thanks for the detailed reply. I am planning a build and my focus is on 1080p gaming, single player not online competitive. I am searching combos and want to go a bit high tier, not because i want to do 1440p, i just want to future proof my build to play upcoming titles at high 1080p for upcoming 3-4 years without changing anything.
@@zaidkhalid3743 Depends on GPU you want and your budget. If I had a budget little bit higher - I would go for 4070 Super. It is little bit better than 7800XT. If I had even higher budget, so instead of 7500F I would buy 7800x3d and for 6-7 years, I would definitely forget about CPU upgrade. Of course my realistic dream is 4070Super(may be 7900GRE. May be. Not sure) + 7800x3d +1440p monitor 27inch. After 5 Years I would change GPU for something better and forget about upgrading for next 5 years. But when I built my PC I had 1350 Euro for PC(without monitor. Monitor I had already) and I tried my best. Performance per 1 Euro. I think I did the best for my budget. By the way if you did not know. If you compare 1080p and 1440p with the same graphics settings - 1440p will be more crisp and more beautiful. I did not know that when I was building my PC.
Love the subtle adjustment of calling the 4060 midrange overpriced, because when you didn't clarify the op, people were tripping it isn't a mid range card lmao
bro should I believe it I mean there are some youtubers doing a gaming benchmark and with the 4060(dlss) I've seen that in some games like 1080p Warzone 2 : 80fps(ultra) Red dead Redemption: 70fps(high) Last of us : 60-67fps(ultra) Fortnite : 114fps(epic) If the 4060 is bad but it feels kinda good to me that in ultra quality, that's decent fps
This all depends on if the games you play are more cpu or gpu intensive. For games like Tarkov a 5800x3d or 7800x3d is a gamechanger with a mid gpu. Its the difference of 160fps to 80fps.
the 4060 is not as bad as people make it to be, its better than the 3060 and around the same price, and honestly it depends on your previous graphics card whether you like it or not, if its your first tho its still a good start
@@Shieda_Kaayn this is so true man so many people are saying how the 3060 is so good and the 4060 is so bad when the 4060 outperforms it by like 20% and has an msrp of like $100 less with like 100w less power consumption
Bro 4060 is a beast if you play on 1080p. You can literally play any AAA title at 60-70 fps with this GPU. 4060 and 4070 are really good GPUs. you might get lower VRAM but 4060 performs better then RX 7600 with lot less power consumption and better support for RTX and DLSS. You just pay 60$ more.
Its more common for people to upgrade gpu down the road than a cpu, by getting a 7800x3d, youll likely be able to take advantage of the 6080 or 6070 when they come out
Depends on the game tbh, its a pretty normal thing for 1080p esports titles. For high settings and higher res games another combination would be better yeah
Man honestly with that cpu 4070 ti super would be better but still it's good but I have a question why you didn't go for 4070 super since it's the same price
@@Sheetalam i didnt go for the 4070ti, bc it was like 274$ more expensive, and not for the super, bc when i built it it wasnt out yet (i live in hungary the prices are crazy)
Everytime someone on my pc group gets Rx 7800 xt it or comes broken or something else is bad. Not something I'd recommend. If you can get a good deal on the 6950xt you should. But honestly the 6800 is a good replacement for the 7700xt. If you need nvidia for vr/ray tracing/dlss, get a used 3080 16 gb. Its the coldest running 30's series gpu excluding the 3060 and its variants and the 3050. And the 4060 ti is basically the same as the 6700xt just the 6700xt is cheaper. Also very nice video. You pointed out everything I was gonna say. Just the recommendations are questionable. Very nice vid still ❤
New PC builder never ask themselves the basic questions that actually determine their build. Most, casual, gamers only need 1080p, 120 fps, on max settings. Nerds push for 1440p or 4k, but don't realize the visual impact is minimal, but the hardware requirements are massive. You also tend to sacrifice setting quality and fps, again for a very small visual gain.
You ever play on 1440 or 4k or are you just yappin? 1080 to 1440 is so much clearer. 1440 to 4k is harder to notice the difference. Obviously 1080p is still fine though.
@@ElJewPacabrahmost ppl aren't using monitors above 1080p / are fine with 1080p so yea there may be better looking visuals but it depends on the persons preferences and game they play
It really isn't,esp if you go in the Nvidia/AMD control panel and allow your 1080p display to output 1440p/4k for gaming. Running 4k on a 1080p display looks basically the same as 4k on a 4k display.
i dont know alot about pcs but i tried making a decent pc for gaming for £380 this is it: Processor (CPU): AMD Ryzen 3 3200G Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV Memory (RAM): Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 Storage: Kingston A2000 NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB Power Supply: EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 Micro ATX Case
I see this stuff everyday somewhere. People will overpay for a CPU and RAM, sometimes for even a very beefed up MoBo and then pair it with a mid-range GPU and expect to play 1440p and above with high framerates just to get dissapointed...
I was literally about to use this exact combination for my first PC build and was planning on ordering those parts today, good thing I got distracted I guess 😂 Would the 4060 ti 16GB be better over the 4070 12GB in terms of value for casual to mid level gaming?
Unless they’re playing competitive, in which that combo would make a lot more sense. Also, upgrading a gpu in 2-3 years time wouldn’t require a cpu upgrade because of how powerful the 7800x3d is
If you have to budget on either the CPU or the GPU I would always recommend the CPU because your CPU we stay with you for a long time, but you’ll probably will change your GPU in the near future
Should I overclock my new pc? It has a 4070 super, i7-13700kf, Msi Z790 motherboard, Corsair (16x2) 6000mhz ram, an RM750X psu, a 4tb crucial 5000mbps ssd, and a bunch of fans and a 280mm radiator. I told you all the specs so you could see if my cooling could handle it. What are the pros and cons of overlocking also?
If youre building in a 5 liter case then its a great combo. The 4060 bc its the best low profile card and the 7800x3d because of its performance while only drawing 50-60w stock in gaming load but probably even less if paired with a 4060
For mine I want to build here are the specs: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X 12G OC Gaming Graphics Card RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance (exact model not specified) Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX Storage: Crucial P3 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe Internal SSD (Acronis Edition) Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case (With included fans) Power Supply: Corsair RM650 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX 650 Watt Power Supply Any problems you see arising? Yes I want to use ray tracing.
As someone who mainly does gaming and a little bit of editing, I don’t really see the need for 32GB seeing as my current laptop with 8GB seems to handle things fine, 16GB should be enough for what I need it for. I also tend to limit the amount of background processes and tasks running at one time.
The thing is, this literally comes down to what game they wanna play. Sure if u whatever u are recommending will give the user a decent performance across all the games regardless.but there are people who only Play games like cs2 , star citizen do work that is cpu related, in those cases that cpu actually matter more than the gpu. It literally comes down to what the user intends to do on their pc.
You made my real doubts vanish bro thank you so much! Was deciding if I should upgrade to 7800x3d with a 4060 ti or stay with a 5600x and ball with a 4070 super
Same thing for phones, with how expensive phones can be if you want real value you need to consider exactly what you can sacrifice for the ideal specs of what you actually want to use it for. All those Megapixels ain't doing you any favour if your phone isn't optimized to actually use that 4K picture and videos after all
I was looking into GPU’s and realized that it’d be cool if I could upgrade my 2060s to one a RX 7700XT or 6700XT, but then I also realized just how damn power hungry those AMD cards are. I’d need to upgrade my PSU as well and that’s even more money I have to put down, especially if I want one that’s actually stable and well rated.
I recently build a PC with my friends including a 7800X3D, a Nvidia 4070ti Super GPU, 32 GB DDR-5 RAM, 1 TB SATA SSD for booting and 4 TB M2 for my games. It only cost me around 2000€ and I am happy getting this setup for this good price. 😁
Incase your wondering, it doesn't matter what GPU you have if you play games that rely on CPU power, if you play games like cyberpunk then yes, a better gpu would be great, but if you play things like space engineers or factorio even a 1660 would work fine
Groups I'm in are filledddd with people wanting a high end processor and make huge sacrifices on their GPU for actually good budgets. With gaming only in mind too
Better awnser, are you playing mostly cpu intensive games or gpu intensive games? Take rust for example, a heavily cpu bound (+ ram) game that can have the same fps with a 3060 and a 4090. All specs are generally use-case.
I have a 12900ks and a 4060 but it’s being used as a placeholder till my 4080s shows up and just chuck that 4060 in my brothers pc i’m planning on building in the near future
Zach, should I purchase a ryzen 5 5600x with rtx 4060 oc (the white asus dual one) or should I get ryzen 5 5600x with rx 6650xt. I wanna create content and play games as well as daily tasks. So which should I get?
Though with the weaker cpu, if you ever wanted to upgrade to a more powerful gpu, wouldn't you also have to upgrade to a more powerful cpu also to prevent bottle necking? If you spend good money on a high end cpu but skimp on the gpu a bit, that would allow you time to save for a better gpu and to sell the old one. However, in the mean time you would still be able to game. Maybe that's what this builder is doing because yeah, that is a very odd combo.
Maybe if you compile code more often than play games like I do, 4060 and 7800x3d could be a reasonable pair. I don't know what the 3d does to compiling code though.
for gaming spend 50% of your budget on gpu 25% on cpu and 25% for the rest of your parts i would recommend get a motherboard that has upgrade potential for storage and cpu support and get a cheap case with decent airflow if you only care about Performance
Agreed. Unless I had a 7900xtx, I would not get the cpu that costs $200 more than a 7600x, when I could put that money into a faster gpu and get better results in almost every game. Using the xtx here because value starts dropping after that
Sounds like a good move, maybe he wants to go for 1080 for a few years. The 7800x3d might last him 10 years so how could spending 130$ extra on it possibly be a bad idea...
Yeah I have a 4060ti with r7 5800x and I fucking LOVE it. Most games I get 250fps at maxed settings, some I get over 300 amd fortnite I get almost 400 on maxed quality
yeah most of the people are right. i think you definitely could pair a 7800x3d with a 4060 with no issue and have good frames. it all depends on what the person is doing on their pc. i have a ryzen 7 7700 and an rtx 4060 ti and its been an absolute beast. so i understand where you are coming from.
7800XT is a 4K card. It’ll get around 4K 60 or maybe a little more with fsr. Although it’s a little more comfortable at 1440p and is able to achieve upwards of 100 to 144 fps at that resolution.
This might not be the case, he may play cpu intensive games(cs2, valorant, etc...) where i wouldn't do this exact spec but i would go with a cpu a tier more than my gpu
i paired a 7800X3D with a 6800 and it literally runs any game like butter in 1440p, best decision i made, probably will upgrade to a new 7000 series in a few years if i have the capital. i want that 24gb of vram baby
4070 ti super good for the 7800x3d ? Thinking of upgrading from the 7700x, not sure if will be fully worth it or if I should wait till the 5090 comes out and upgrade both
Depends on what task they're gonna perform
But a 7800x3d is mostly used for gaming right? Cos even if you want to do tasks other than gaming like editing and stuff you could instead go for Intel and get a CPU with more cores
@@asm8048 Competitive titles will really benefit from that, plus maybe that person needs it for heavy cpu tasks as well. Its not bad to have gpu bottleneck, cpu bottleneck is much worse.
@@asm8048 in premiere pro theres an option to use GPU for preview and rendering, and with that on it doesnt use CPU that much, speaking from experience.
Lol intel with more cores...bruh.. you're graduating too much from some random small time youtuber..the 7800x3d is fine for rendering and stuff for the price@@asm8048
@@asm8048Plenty of older games are cpu-intensive. If he's a cs2 or wow player going for 3D cache cpu makes sense.
I just built a PC with a 7800X3D and a 7800 XT and it plays everything I throw at it with ease. Best gaming experience I’ve ever had, I’m in love!
You probably have a job, Which probably means your 18+. Invest in RCM R1 stock
Thank you, for the comment I'm about to upgrade my PC after a while and I'm going almost all out. Was thinking of buying the 7800x3d and the 7800xt. To try to play games on 1440 or even 4k.❤
@@void-bot8071 I upgraded after using an i5 6600k and a GTX 1070 for eight years. The difference is night and day. I play using a 3440x1440 display, I’m sure it could handle 4K well in most titles.
@@rightjoycon8452 I used and still use the gtx 1660 super and i5 12500. Which is not bad it can play most games pretty good. But I want something better
I would buy 7900 GRE if it's in similar price range
For competitive gaming, especially if you want high fps at a lower resolution, you should probably go with a better CPU. If your build has a better CPU then GPU it’s also way easier to upgrade your GPU later on
I thought fps was tied to GPU and visuals were a CPU thing?
@@cliqinheads7545 games like Cs go valorant leauge , etc are all Cpu intensive. Meaning if you have high end Cpu and low end gpu you get the max frames. For eg anything above rtx 2060 is already bottlenecking in gpu side so pairing 7800x3d with 2060 will give you 500+ fps. Basically if you only play competitive games like me then its very worth it.
@@saumyalimbu6918 🤔🤔 I kinda get it, thanks 🫡
@@cliqinheads7545GPU is responsible for generating frames and visuals, while the CPU simulates the game world.
In case of rtx 4060 You really don't need anything above than ryzen 5 7600 or i5 13600k at 1080p this combo can push this gpu to its limits and pump as many frames as possible
He should do the 7800x3d, won’t have to upgrade CPU or Mobo for like 10 years and can just upgrade GPUs down the line
Thsts what I was thinking of doing right now I just want to play all types of games in 1440p and I don't think I want to be changing my cpu any time soon but my gpu is much easier
@@truespecialist8832 do it g i went 7800x3d and a cheap 6750xt and it murders 1440p, going big on cpu super worth it and underrated
@@truespecialist8832 do it bro i went 7800x3d with a cheap 6750xt and it shreds 1440p. Going big on cpu sooo worth it and nobody on yt talks about it. If ur cpu isn’t a beast ur never gonna get full potential out of ur gpu
@@yeetyawyeet8981haha I legit have this set up 7800x3d, with a red devil 6750xt it's a beast
@@yeetyawyeet8981especially warzone, it's CPU dependant, from what I hear
There's nothing wrong with buying a high-end CPU like this with more of a mid-range GPU to future-proof your system. Easy to upgrade the GPU down the road.
It's also easy to upgrade you CPU especially on AM5. What is the point in kneecapping your current performance for a future where a midrange cpu will be equal or better than the 7800x3d?
@@fatidicusaeternus6498how??
@@OneShotCS except the esport titles dont really benefit from the beefed up cache and instead benefit from higher clocks on lower tier X non-3D CPUs
@@OneShotCS not all of them, but you said yourself - competitive esports. That's really a small portion of mostly fps games in which the 7800X3D is not king. In fact those titles are among the few where the otherwise pretty much garbage 7900X3D/950X3D make sense.
Good advice.
Very simple
It depends... we ate right now at a point where pci 5.0 is not used by the current gen of gpu. If you buy tjis combo you are ready to upgrade to a 5.0 card in the future
Not really
@@R3D_T1G3RYes really
@@StunXPlayzreal good advice - recommend combos based on what he person is gonna use it for
I think alot of people forget that a 1440p Monitor also costs more than 1080p. So the upgrade or budget balance might not help if you are not willing to buy a better monitor too.
Sure if you're on a tight budget, but here the OP is using a high end CPU.
Yeah but its only like 100 bucks so instead of buying RGB and cable extension push this 100 bucks there
@@AlexHusTechSo what?
@@JmKrokY what?
not really anymore i got an msi 1440p 175 hz monitor for $170
Keep the 7800x3d, then just upgrade your gpu.
True
Right he never acknowledges this play, going big on CPU means all u need to upgrade down the road is an easy gpu swap
@@yeetyawyeet8981thats what i do and many people i know: going big in CPU and then a few mid range GPU Upgrades along the line Till the CPU hast too less Power. Have at the Moment a Intel i7 5930k and i will Upgrade to the zen 5 x3d 16 core CPU and GPU will be a 5070 or a 6070. Idk when i will Upgrade to my next gpu
Or a cheaper CPU if you if you dont have the budget to uppgrade your gpu.
I saved up the extra money to pair a 7800X3D with a Founders RTX4080. Never been happier with a build.
7800x3d and 4060 for 1080p low is 🔥🔥
with 500fps 🔥 (cs)
@@sendeviafr
CAN you get 240 stable ?
@@RafiqueCande-iw6sn wish I had the 7800x3d, but yeah that cpu gets like 400fps stable lol.
@@RafiqueCande-iw6sn I have this exact setup 7800x3d and a 4060 rtx and it’s stable on basically everything you throw at it I wanna upgrade just to have the best tbh
Bro I love the fact you do these it helps the entire community not just the person asking about the parts 😎🤙💯
7500F with 7800XT here. The perfect ballance.
Do you play triple A titles like Starfield or any demanding one, or do you do online competitive gaming, like tarkov, pubg etc?
Also what's the resolution, i am asking in references to gpu bottlenecking.
@@zaidkhalid3743
I am playing single players games on a 1080p monitor. The heaviest was Cyberpunk. On Ultras it was 118-130FPS. GPU usage 93-99% CPU around 80% if I remember correctly. Rarely jumped up to 90%. Then I changed resolution to 1440p. FPS droped to 120-90 FPS. 90FPS in rare scenarios. GPU usage not changed. CPU usage droped up to 70%
May be I lie little bit, because I played about 4 months ago, but numbers are something about I mentioned.
I was researching and found out that 7500F is enough even with RTX 4070 Super. Some people say 4070 Super Ti works fine too.
P.S. 1440p is not a native resolution for my monitor but picture is better with it. I think if I had 1440p monitor the number were even better.
@@KeymoreNick Thanks for the detailed reply. I am planning a build and my focus is on 1080p gaming, single player not online competitive.
I am searching combos and want to go a bit high tier, not because i want to do 1440p, i just want to future proof my build to play upcoming titles at high 1080p for upcoming 3-4 years without changing anything.
@@zaidkhalid3743
Depends on GPU you want and your budget. If I had a budget little bit higher - I would go for 4070 Super. It is little bit better than 7800XT. If I had even higher budget, so instead of 7500F I would buy 7800x3d and for 6-7 years, I would definitely forget about CPU upgrade. Of course my realistic dream is 4070Super(may be 7900GRE. May be. Not sure) + 7800x3d +1440p monitor 27inch. After 5 Years I would change GPU for something better and forget about upgrading for next 5 years.
But when I built my PC I had 1350 Euro for PC(without monitor. Monitor I had already) and I tried my best. Performance per 1 Euro. I think I did the best for my budget.
By the way if you did not know. If you compare 1080p and 1440p with the same graphics settings - 1440p will be more crisp and more beautiful. I did not know that when I was building my PC.
Love the subtle adjustment of calling the 4060 midrange overpriced, because when you didn't clarify the op, people were tripping it isn't a mid range card lmao
bro should I believe it
I mean there are some youtubers doing a gaming benchmark and with the 4060(dlss) I've seen that in some games like
1080p
Warzone 2 : 80fps(ultra)
Red dead Redemption: 70fps(high)
Last of us : 60-67fps(ultra)
Fortnite : 114fps(epic)
If the 4060 is bad but it feels kinda good to me that in ultra quality, that's decent fps
This all depends on if the games you play are more cpu or gpu intensive. For games like Tarkov a 5800x3d or 7800x3d is a gamechanger with a mid gpu. Its the difference of 160fps to 80fps.
Yeah, it's odd that is overlooked so often. Warzone is another that seems to do well with 3D caching or whatever.
Every single one of his videos feels like a personal attack. Come on man I just got a 4060 😭
bro ur lucky i got a qaudro🗿
the 4060 is not as bad as people make it to be, its better than the 3060 and around the same price, and honestly it depends on your previous graphics card whether you like it or not, if its your first tho its still a good start
@@Shieda_Kaayn this is so true man so many people are saying how the 3060 is so good and the 4060 is so bad when the 4060 outperforms it by like 20% and has an msrp of like $100 less with like 100w less power consumption
Don’t feel bad, the 4060 is fine. Just got mine and I’ve been throwing 1440 at it on everything I play with no issue
Bro 4060 is a beast if you play on 1080p. You can literally play any AAA title at 60-70 fps with this GPU. 4060 and 4070 are really good GPUs. you might get lower VRAM but 4060 performs better then RX 7600 with lot less power consumption and better support for RTX and DLSS. You just pay 60$ more.
Is getting a ryzen 7 8700g better than getting a budget CPU and dedicated GPU combo?
No Intel 13 12100f and 6600xt will get you more performance and better fps per dollar
Yes It's better but if u build an itx PC with it 👍
Any modern non-garbage dedicated GPU is gonna smoke the iGPU. According to TPU the 780M is around a RX 470. So I'd go dedicated combo.
@@vvvw720it would have to be less than 5l for a itx build to be worth using a igpu lol
@@tigertonk9552 yup that's right buddy V:
Yoooo Ryzen 4070 baby!!!
Its more common for people to upgrade gpu down the road than a cpu, by getting a 7800x3d, youll likely be able to take advantage of the 6080 or 6070 when they come out
so thats my plan to switch to whatever 7060 would be like by just swapping single thing in pc. Done same thing upgrading from 9500GT to gtx650Ti
Wait until this guy learns about my 7800x3d and 5600 xt combo. There's a good story behind that.
I would love to hear it
Depends on the game tbh, its a pretty normal thing for 1080p esports titles. For high settings and higher res games another combination would be better yeah
Is RTX 4070 Super with Ryzen 7 7800X3D a good combo?
yeah
Solid 1440p setup.
Depends on what you want to do with it. Might be overkill or not good enough hard to tell.
@@R3D_T1G3R Play games at 1440p, mostly GPU intensive games, but also some CPU intesive ones
@@tvrdik_matej_3 depends on the games ig but a 4070 should be able to run most if not all games with at least 60fps on high settings in 1440p
Nah, that combo makes perfect sense for 1080p tarkov
i got the 4070 with the 7800x3d
Man honestly with that cpu 4070 ti super would be better but still it's good but I have a question why you didn't go for 4070 super since it's the same price
@@Sheetalam depends on the country tbh in my country 4070 nd 4070 super aint the same price
@@Sheetalam i didnt go for the 4070ti, bc it was like 274$ more expensive, and not for the super, bc when i built it it wasnt out yet (i live in hungary the prices are crazy)
@@Aurozxy ohk I didn't knew that...
@@Sheetalam i built it this christmas, and couldnt wait for the super, but honestly 15%+ more isnt that much
Everytime someone on my pc group gets Rx 7800 xt it or comes broken or something else is bad. Not something I'd recommend. If you can get a good deal on the 6950xt you should. But honestly the 6800 is a good replacement for the 7700xt. If you need nvidia for vr/ray tracing/dlss, get a used 3080 16 gb. Its the coldest running 30's series gpu excluding the 3060 and its variants and the 3050. And the 4060 ti is basically the same as the 6700xt just the 6700xt is cheaper.
Also very nice video. You pointed out everything I was gonna say. Just the recommendations are questionable.
Very nice vid still ❤
New PC builder never ask themselves the basic questions that actually determine their build. Most, casual, gamers only need 1080p, 120 fps, on max settings.
Nerds push for 1440p or 4k, but don't realize the visual impact is minimal, but the hardware requirements are massive. You also tend to sacrifice setting quality and fps, again for a very small visual gain.
You ever play on 1440 or 4k or are you just yappin?
1080 to 1440 is so much clearer. 1440 to 4k is harder to notice the difference.
Obviously 1080p is still fine though.
@@ElJewPacabrahmost ppl aren't using monitors above 1080p / are fine with 1080p so yea there may be better looking visuals but it depends on the persons preferences and game they play
It really isn't,esp if you go in the Nvidia/AMD control panel and allow your 1080p display to output 1440p/4k for gaming.
Running 4k on a 1080p display looks basically the same as 4k on a 4k display.
So what? You can have a good PC at only 1080p60 🤦
Yeah this pure copium I’m afraid. 4k vs 1080p is absolutely night and day difference
If you already have a 1080p high refresh monitor, this makes sense imo. Games like Fortnite can be very cpu intensive, especially at high frame rates
Should i get a 7700xt in a 1200$ build
You can but I would suggest a little higher on the gpu, somewhere around 4070...
For $1200 get a 7600X with a 6700 XT or something
@@Sheetalamhes on a budget... NVIDIA is mostly overpriced
Yes absoluetly but if you can get the 7800xt In a sale get it
@@TOXY_BS thx
I'm a reasonably competent system builder, but this guy is giving me a lot of thoughts about how to create a build. Kudos!
Is the 4070 ti super and ryzen 7 7800x3D a good combo?
its a killer dawg for 2k gaming
@@thrive4everits for 4k💪
This makes me glad i bought a 7800X3D just 2 days before Ryzen 9000 came out, when it was on sale for just $350
Is it better to get 3060 ti or 3060 right now beacuse of vram
I found a 16gb vram 7600 XT for around the same price of a 3060
Thanks
if you still want nvidia get a 3070 or a 4060 (but a 3070 is better)@@m.b.38255
@@SuperSerferNowdont buy a 8gb vram card in 2024...3070ti here
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i dont know alot about pcs but i tried making a decent pc for gaming for £380 this is it:
Processor (CPU):
AMD Ryzen 3 3200G
Motherboard:
ASRock B450M-HDV
Memory (RAM):
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4
Storage:
Kingston A2000 NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB
Power Supply:
EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W
Case:
Deepcool MATREXX 30 Micro ATX Case
Ryzen 4070 would be better
nah man the arc gtx 7800 x3d is better
"Can you, yes, should you no" this is the only answer I need
I see this stuff everyday somewhere. People will overpay for a CPU and RAM, sometimes for even a very beefed up MoBo and then pair it with a mid-range GPU and expect to play 1440p and above with high framerates just to get dissapointed...
I was literally about to use this exact combination for my first PC build and was planning on ordering those parts today, good thing I got distracted I guess 😂 Would the 4060 ti 16GB be better over the 4070 12GB in terms of value for casual to mid level gaming?
It depends if u want to play 1080p get 4060ti its perfect card for 1080p or if u wanna play 1440p get 4070 or 4070super
@@igorsierakowski4399 Thanks! The monitor I was looking to buy has 1080p resolution so it looks like the 4060 ti is the better choice
Unless they’re playing competitive, in which that combo would make a lot more sense. Also, upgrading a gpu in 2-3 years time wouldn’t require a cpu upgrade because of how powerful the 7800x3d is
If you have to budget on either the CPU or the GPU I would always recommend the CPU because your CPU we stay with you for a long time, but you’ll probably will change your GPU in the near future
Should I overclock my new pc? It has a 4070 super, i7-13700kf, Msi Z790 motherboard, Corsair (16x2) 6000mhz ram, an RM750X psu, a 4tb crucial 5000mbps ssd, and a bunch of fans and a 280mm radiator. I told you all the specs so you could see if my cooling could handle it. What are the pros and cons of overlocking also?
Pros - more FPS
Con - Higher temps and higher power draw
As someone who just bought the r5 7600x and a 7700xt, it felt like Zach was watching my Amazon account
No, it's just because it's a good combo.
thing is, a cheaper cpu means if he wants to upgrade his gpu he might also have to upgrade the cpu
Honestly id take anything, just having a good PC here is already a miracle..
If youre building in a 5 liter case then its a great combo. The 4060 bc its the best low profile card and the 7800x3d because of its performance while only drawing 50-60w stock in gaming load but probably even less if paired with a 4060
My 7700x has been heating up on hell divers 😂 I may need a upgrade
For mine I want to build here are the specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X 12G OC Gaming Graphics Card
RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance (exact model not specified)
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX
Storage: Crucial P3 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe Internal SSD (Acronis Edition)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case (With included fans)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX 650 Watt Power Supply
Any problems you see arising? Yes I want to use ray tracing.
Budget is £750
Nothing wrong here. I would just get 32gb of ram.
3600mhz 32gb kit to be exact
As someone who mainly does gaming and a little bit of editing, I don’t really see the need for 32GB seeing as my current laptop with 8GB seems to handle things fine, 16GB should be enough for what I need it for. I also tend to limit the amount of background processes and tasks running at one time.
My RTX 3060 started crying when you said a RTX 4060 is mid-range.
The thing is, this literally comes down to what game they wanna play. Sure if u whatever u are recommending will give the user a decent performance across all the games regardless.but there are people who only Play games like cs2 , star citizen do work that is cpu related, in those cases that cpu actually matter more than the gpu. It literally comes down to what the user intends to do on their pc.
I would. Its good to have a strong cpu that can survive 2 or more graphics card swaps
My 4070 r7 7700x combo seems to be killing it at the moment
Bro called me poor in 100 different ways
You made my real doubts vanish bro thank you so much! Was deciding if I should upgrade to 7800x3d with a 4060 ti or stay with a 5600x and ball with a 4070 super
The thing is when the 50 series drops the 40 series will get cheaper, so going from that 4060 to a 4080s will be easier
I have an i7-14700k and 4070 and it runs everything just fine in 4k.
Same thing for phones, with how expensive phones can be if you want real value you need to consider exactly what you can sacrifice for the ideal specs of what you actually want to use it for.
All those Megapixels ain't doing you any favour if your phone isn't optimized to actually use that 4K picture and videos after all
I was looking into GPU’s and realized that it’d be cool if I could upgrade my 2060s to one a RX 7700XT or 6700XT, but then I also realized just how damn power hungry those AMD cards are. I’d need to upgrade my PSU as well and that’s even more money I have to put down, especially if I want one that’s actually stable and well rated.
Bro I am so cooked I need to play for about half a year with the ryzen 7 7800x3d and a gtx 1060 😂
Sounded like he yawned right before he started recording 😂
bro wants to put a knight into an emperor palace
So basically like Sparta?
I recently build a PC with my friends including a 7800X3D, a Nvidia 4070ti Super GPU, 32 GB DDR-5 RAM, 1 TB SATA SSD for booting and 4 TB M2 for my games. It only cost me around 2000€ and I am happy getting this setup for this good price. 😁
For games like Fortnite this would be a great combo if you play competitively. In performance mode there is barely any gpu usage
Good advice same thinking
Am currently waiting for delivery of my 7800x3d and 7900GRE 😊
Incase your wondering, it doesn't matter what GPU you have if you play games that rely on CPU power, if you play games like cyberpunk then yes, a better gpu would be great, but if you play things like space engineers or factorio even a 1660 would work fine
Groups I'm in are filledddd with people wanting a high end processor and make huge sacrifices on their GPU for actually good budgets. With gaming only in mind too
Better awnser, are you playing mostly cpu intensive games or gpu intensive games? Take rust for example, a heavily cpu bound (+ ram) game that can have the same fps with a 3060 and a 4090. All specs are generally use-case.
I’m buying a prebuilt and it’s coming with a RTX 4070 and a Ryzen 5 7500F
What do you think about it?
Great Combo
I have a 7800x3d and a 7900xtx taichi white build. Its a really good combo.
I have a 12900ks and a 4060 but it’s being used as a placeholder till my 4080s shows up and just chuck that 4060 in my brothers pc i’m planning on building in the near future
Zach, should I purchase a ryzen 5 5600x with rtx 4060 oc (the white asus dual one) or should I get ryzen 5 5600x with rx 6650xt. I wanna create content and play games as well as daily tasks. So which should I get?
thank you for 4060 ti r4ecomdation
Should i buy rtx 4060 or 7600xt 16gb any thoughts? i want to use them for high 1080p gaming btw love your videos
so now you will have to change both cpu and gpu at the same time in the future ! nice advice !
Though with the weaker cpu, if you ever wanted to upgrade to a more powerful gpu, wouldn't you also have to upgrade to a more powerful cpu also to prevent bottle necking? If you spend good money on a high end cpu but skimp on the gpu a bit, that would allow you time to save for a better gpu and to sell the old one. However, in the mean time you would still be able to game. Maybe that's what this builder is doing because yeah, that is a very odd combo.
Maybe if you compile code more often than play games like I do, 4060 and 7800x3d could be a reasonable pair. I don't know what the 3d does to compiling code though.
It's like putting a x8 scope on a pistol.
for gaming spend 50% of your budget on gpu 25% on cpu and 25% for the rest of your parts i would recommend get a motherboard that has upgrade potential for storage and cpu support and get a cheap case with decent airflow if you only care about Performance
Any diffrence between 7500f and 7600x? worth to spend 60 70$ more for 7600x? (with 4060 ofc)
Agreed. Unless I had a 7900xtx, I would not get the cpu that costs $200 more than a 7600x, when I could put that money into a faster gpu and get better results in almost every game.
Using the xtx here because value starts dropping after that
Yup
You can save 200 dollars and get r5 7600 with rx 7800xt and you'll get better performance
Sounds like a good move, maybe he wants to go for 1080 for a few years. The 7800x3d might last him 10 years so how could spending 130$ extra on it possibly be a bad idea...
What about the 7600x with the 4060? Would it run fine with minimal bottlenecking
$300 for a base 4060? Damn, that's just under $500 in Europe
Is a Amd 7700 eagle and an intel i5 12400f a good pair?
😊 I love your vids😊
I have a ryzen 5 5600 x and an AMD 6650 xt what would you recommend for the future?
Unless if you want the best esports games performance, than its a great combo
*Good advice*
3060 or 60 series in general is supposed to be a Mid Range 1440p GPU, not sure about 4060, its weaker with new stuff
I am currently running a rtx 4060 with a amd ryzen 7000 series 9 and it runs consistently with above 280fps
Yeah I have a 4060ti with r7 5800x and I fucking LOVE it.
Most games I get 250fps at maxed settings, some I get over 300 amd fortnite I get almost 400 on maxed quality
yeah most of the people are right. i think you definitely could pair a 7800x3d with a 4060 with no issue and have good frames. it all depends on what the person is doing on their pc. i have a ryzen 7 7700 and an rtx 4060 ti and its been an absolute beast. so i understand where you are coming from.
This person puts high octane fuel in their grocery go getter.
7800XT is a 4K card. It’ll get around 4K 60 or maybe a little more with fsr. Although it’s a little more comfortable at 1440p and is able to achieve upwards of 100 to 144 fps at that resolution.
It’s funny I get this reel cuz I’m actually gonna spec into something very similar to this, mainly cuz I mostly play valorant
This might not be the case, he may play cpu intensive games(cs2, valorant, etc...) where i wouldn't do this exact spec but i would go with a cpu a tier more than my gpu
Even at 720p the 4060 isn't maxing out the 7800x3d. Maybe a 4070 would've been better here at 1080p for those games
A 7900XT and a 7800x3D. Do you think it’ll pair up well
Hey. How’s a 64 gb ram, a ryzen 9 7950x3d, and a rtx 4090. Please respond quick I am about to buy this
Is a 4060 and i5 13400k a good combo and this is for both unity processes and VR gaming? And if not what would be a good upgrade for the cpu or gpu
that’s exactly what i thought i my mind
i paired a 7800X3D with a 6800 and it literally runs any game like butter in 1440p, best decision i made, probably will upgrade to a new 7000 series in a few years if i have the capital. i want that 24gb of vram baby
I picked up a 7800x3d, b650 mobo and 32gbs of ddr5 as a combo at micro center for 450. Upgraded from a 1600x. My ol 2080 is hurting
4070 ti super good for the 7800x3d ? Thinking of upgrading from the 7700x, not sure if will be fully worth it or if I should wait till the 5090 comes out and upgrade both
Is the i9 13900k and the 4070ti a good combination?