There are only a few companies that can still justify investing in a higher end DAP, and amongst those Fiio is definitely on top. If you think about Fiio then portable DAP or Bluetooth receiver is the thing that pops in your mind. Looks like a good option, hope it will do fine, WE STILL NEED good DAPs , no matter what some people might think.
Wow! I'm just so impressed of your knowledge and the quality of this review. One of the best i've seen in years browsing youtube. I'm all new to audiophile stuff as a whole, but i've become really interested in it lately, so will definetly keep watching your videos.
Glad they stopped using THX, that was boring, even if transparent and detailed. I have high hopes with this one since I am looking for a mobile unit to replace my Fiio M9 . Hope this one sounds better. Thanks, Sandu, I was waiting for this.
Good job with the review. Well spoken and detailed comparison. Does the M11S have a FM radio? Am using it more and more on my M7 since the quality is outstanding when compared to the car radio in my Passat.
I'm sorry but you said it does not use desktop class components when in fact almost all chips used in the audio section are desktop class. Care to elaborate? Also you said it's higher resolution because of ESS chips but not as much as the higher end models. They all have 32 bit output. Actually the modulator inside the M17 dac and the M11S are exactly the same. The stream processors work at the same amount of bits.
I would love to hear what you think of the comparison between listening to IEMs on balanced cable with the same IEMs on FiiO UTWS5 via the LHDC codec available on this player. Not many people do this in reviews. I’m really curious to hear what differences you’d pick out.
I’m about to choose a dap, hesitating in between shandling m3 ultra, fiio m11s and fiio m11 plus ii I own a meze 99 classics. I’m looking for a nice balance into nice soundstage, analatycal sound and nice organicity. Which one fo i have to choose? Thanks a lot for your great and serious work.
Just subscribed to your channel and what a very informative review you gave. Please can you help me decide. I am thinking of buying either FIIO M11S or FIIO M11 PLUS or the Shanling MX3 Ultra. Which would you go for. I have the Focal Bathys (bluetooth) which is amazing at the moment with my Iphone but I want a dedicated player. Thanks again
I have seen a lot of issues with the battery swelling and causing issues with Fiios, and difficulty getting them repaired/customer service. How prevalent is this through the Fiio ranges? Why?
My M11 battery was about to explode after 2 years but it was my fault I kept the player all the time plug in my computer usb. It is easy to replace the battery you can buy a new one from Aliexpres. I personally replace the original battery with a Lenovo phone one, exact the same size and capacity. And the M11 is working perfectly fine since then.
@@RetapitarecanapeleRoTapiter Hello, if I may ask, how is the sound quality? I will buy one soon, but I am worried, does it sound like any new smartphone or better?
Sound Performance is such a personal thing and it so broad as well (see how many chapters I have in my videos). Subjectively speaking, I liked R5 MKII a little bit more, mostly thanks to its discrete amp stage (bipolar transistors) that can work in Class-A.
FiiO already stated that they had no future plans to replace their low end line up of DAP's as there simply was no profit margin and the fact by their own admission that the sound quality from a dongle plus a phone is just as good if not better than a low end DAP.
I can tell you even flag ship phones from any brand sound worse than FiiO M6 and the difference is more than you’d think. I don’t know what you talk about… Wired or over Bluetooth M6 is way better than SamsungS22 or iPhone 13pro, from my experience. More detail more natural more power.
@@kristwi37 If you had read properly what I said about using a phone with a dongle. I'm simply repeating what FiiO themselves have stated on the Headfi forums a couple of years ago, that's why there has not been and won't be a replacement for your M6 etc. I own a FiiO BTR7 and I can assure you the sound from this bluetooth dongle with its THX AAA-28 amp modules and the using LDAC codec with my S21 Ultra as the source is far superior than the sound from the FiiO M6.
boa tarde, você tem uma revisão do M11 PLUS ESS? boa tarde, você tem uma revisão do M11 PLUS ESS? good afternoon, do you have a review of the M11 PLUS ESS?
I wanna buy me 1 fiio for mij car ..and myabe i wanna use it analog ,what is the best choice the fiio m11plus ess ,fiio 11plus ess or the fiio m11 pro?
Can this M11s DAP be used in car audio? ie. would connecting via Aux in produce better sound quality in your car stero than streaming from an iphone via USB?
@@Soundnews could you compare this M11s to Shanling m3x? I have M3x, what do you think of upgrading it with this M11s or Rs2? For me one problem of Shanling app is that is not gapless
@@Soundnews well, if it seems useful the Spanish speaking channel VIVIR DIGITAL had compared shanling M6 2021, Hidisz Ap80 pro X, Hiby R2S (the new R2R dap) and Tempotec V6 including SOUND DEMO samples which seems very unique in dap reviews and it seems quite clear to me that Shanling M6 2021 is the best of the four
I have used it for iems and over ears (60 ohm impedance) both over non balanced. The iems are comfortably driven at about 1/3 volume, and the over ears at around 1/2 volume. Obviously balanced output would be even better
If you mean the original M11, then there isn't a huge difference. M11S is mainly faster and thumpier sounding, with a mild improvement in detail retrieval.
Hello. Do you think I could use this as a smarthphone? I don't care about sim card, just navigate on the internet, watch videos on youtube and social media.
This or the Shanling M3 Ultra? I mostly listen to electronic, house/trance/progressive, dub, reggae and very few instrumental bands. I already have a few Fiio products, FHE Eclipse IEMs, K7 DAC, Fiio UTWS5. Other IEMs I use are S12 pro and Zetian Wu Heyday also using the iFi GoBlu as a dongle DAC. I prefer the form factor of the M3U and all reviews I've seen so far say that it's a warmer sound signature than the Fiio which I prefer. Another thing is Shanling support seems crap, their website won't even open for me to download updates. Would appreciate your input to make the decision easier, thanks.
There are only a few companies that can still justify investing in a higher end DAP, and amongst those Fiio is definitely on top. If you think about Fiio then portable DAP or Bluetooth receiver is the thing that pops in your mind. Looks like a good option, hope it will do fine, WE STILL NEED good DAPs , no matter what some people might think.
In the last 18 or so months FiiO have been making some killer IEM's too, FD7, FH9,FH7S etc.
I wish they would discard THX modules and go their own path (like many others did).
@@Soundnews I'm sure they will, after all their best sounding DAP (still M15 in my opinion) is THX free.
Wow! I'm just so impressed of your knowledge and the quality of this review. One of the best i've seen in years browsing youtube. I'm all new to audiophile stuff as a whole, but i've become really interested in it lately, so will definetly keep watching your videos.
Thanks mate! More stuff is being posted weekly ;)
I was thinking of picking this up and it’s reassuring that it has a low noise floor for sensitive IEMs. Right up my alley.
A great, thorough and informative review. Many thanks!
Glad they stopped using THX, that was boring, even if transparent and detailed. I have high hopes with this one since I am looking for a mobile unit to replace my Fiio M9 . Hope this one sounds better. Thanks, Sandu, I was waiting for this.
Hello, did you buy M11S? If yes, how is the sound quality?
Good job with the review. Well spoken and detailed comparison.
Does the M11S have a FM radio?
Am using it more and more on my M7 since the quality is outstanding when compared to the car radio in my Passat.
Thank you for the recommendations!
Excellent review! Thanks, mate! 🙌
Merci pour ton vidéo très détaillé 👍
Avec plaisir ;)
Thank you for this thorough review. I am still wavering on whether to buy a DAP or just stick with my iPhone and Qudelix 5K
M11 S is not worth the upgrade !
@@JWdA Thanks for the input. I am driving myself crazy trying to get the extra X percent… the quest never ends… or does it? 😀
Depends on the load and on its quality. What IEMs/headphones are you driving?
@@Soundnews Hello and thanks for your reply… I have a pair of Sennheiser 58X and also a pair of Hifiman Amanda’s.
I'm sorry but you said it does not use desktop class components when in fact almost all chips used in the audio section are desktop class. Care to elaborate?
Also you said it's higher resolution because of ESS chips but not as much as the higher end models. They all have 32 bit output. Actually the modulator inside the M17 dac and the M11S are exactly the same. The stream processors work at the same amount of bits.
I would love to hear what you think of the comparison between listening to IEMs on balanced cable with the same IEMs on FiiO UTWS5 via the LHDC codec available on this player. Not many people do this in reviews. I’m really curious to hear what differences you’d pick out.
Would gladly do that. UTWS5 needs to be connected to M11S or to my smartphone?
@@Soundnews The M11S. It’s first DAP from FiiO in some time to support LHDC. They added LHDC to UWTS5 in last firmware update.
@@mcnaugha indeed? How can I get the update?
I’m about to choose a dap, hesitating in between shandling m3 ultra, fiio m11s and fiio m11 plus ii
I own a meze 99 classics. I’m looking for a nice balance into nice soundstage, analatycal sound and nice organicity. Which one fo i have to choose? Thanks a lot for your great and serious work.
Just subscribed to your channel and what a very informative review you gave. Please can you help me decide. I am thinking of buying either FIIO M11S or FIIO M11 PLUS or the Shanling MX3 Ultra. Which would you go for. I have the Focal Bathys (bluetooth) which is amazing at the moment with my Iphone but I want a dedicated player. Thanks again
I have seen a lot of issues with the battery swelling and causing issues with Fiios, and difficulty getting them repaired/customer service. How prevalent is this through the Fiio ranges? Why?
My M11 battery was about to explode after 2 years but it was my fault I kept the player all the time plug in my computer usb. It is easy to replace the battery you can buy a new one from Aliexpres. I personally replace the original battery with a Lenovo phone one, exact the same size and capacity. And the M11 is working perfectly fine since then.
@@RetapitarecanapeleRoTapiter Hello, if I may ask, how is the sound quality? I will buy one soon, but I am worried, does it sound like any new smartphone or better?
Great review!
Fiio m11s v/s shanling m3 ultra which one is the better choice for travelling?
In term of sound performance only which one is better sounding... Hiby r5 gen2 or fiio m11s....?
Sound Performance is such a personal thing and it so broad as well (see how many chapters I have in my videos). Subjectively speaking, I liked R5 MKII a little bit more, mostly thanks to its discrete amp stage (bipolar transistors) that can work in Class-A.
FiiO already stated that they had no future plans to replace their low end line up of DAP's as there simply was no profit margin and the fact by their own admission that the sound quality from a dongle plus a phone is just as good if not better than a low end DAP.
I can tell you even flag ship phones from any brand sound worse than FiiO M6 and the difference is more than you’d think.
I don’t know what you talk about…
Wired or over Bluetooth M6 is way better than SamsungS22 or iPhone 13pro, from my experience.
More detail more natural more power.
@@kristwi37 If you had read properly what I said about using a phone with a dongle. I'm simply repeating what FiiO themselves have stated on the Headfi forums a couple of years ago, that's why there has not been and won't be a replacement for your M6 etc. I own a FiiO BTR7 and I can assure you the sound from this bluetooth dongle with its THX AAA-28 amp modules and the using LDAC codec with my S21 Ultra as the source is far superior than the sound from the FiiO M6.
Yep, that's a fact.
@@peterscrace3530 I agree. I had M6 and felt it little involving. Did you listened to btr5?
@@leonardopapantoniou4227 Yeah I had a BTR 5 and loved it. But honestly the BTR 7 is superior in every way sonically.
boa tarde, você tem uma revisão do M11 PLUS ESS?
boa tarde, você tem uma revisão do M11 PLUS ESS?
good afternoon, do you have a review of the M11 PLUS ESS?
I wanna buy me 1 fiio for mij car ..and myabe i wanna use it analog ,what is the best choice the fiio m11plus ess ,fiio 11plus ess or the fiio m11 pro?
como conecto ele pra ouvir musica em um amplificador com caixas acusticas grandes ?
This or Hiby R5 gen 2?
Can this M11s DAP be used in car audio? ie. would connecting via Aux in produce better sound quality in your car stero than streaming from an iphone via USB?
Yes way better i use it in my car
Compared to DX170, or RS2, which one you like more?
If you want a flagship below $1K, please check my latest Shanling M6 Ultra review.
@@Soundnews could you compare this M11s to Shanling m3x? I have M3x, what do you think of upgrading it with this M11s or Rs2? For me one problem of Shanling app is that is not gapless
@@leonardopapantoniou4227 l have shanling m3x, you can use power amp, neutron or USB audio Pro, you don't have to use the shanling app.
@@suntanglory no, you don’t but with prime mode Shanling app sounds a bit better. That ‘s why I think it is a shame that does not support gapless
@@Soundnews well, if it seems useful the Spanish speaking channel VIVIR DIGITAL had compared shanling M6 2021, Hidisz Ap80 pro X, Hiby R2S (the new R2R dap) and Tempotec V6 including SOUND DEMO samples which seems very unique in dap reviews and it seems quite clear to me that Shanling M6 2021 is the best of the four
How many hours of playback/burn-in do you run on any DAP before making a sound review?
Is this something for over ears? Or would you recommend something else?
I have used it for iems and over ears (60 ohm impedance) both over non balanced. The iems are comfortably driven at about 1/3 volume, and the over ears at around 1/2 volume. Obviously balanced output would be even better
For anything really, including a few desktop headphones.
very cool
Thanks a lot .how is it colpare to m11 about sound quality and stage ? Is there a réal gap ?
If you mean the original M11, then there isn't a huge difference. M11S is mainly faster and thumpier sounding, with a mild improvement in detail retrieval.
@@Soundnews ok , thank you , I keep my m11 with his 2 sd card ( 2 teras of music in high resolution ) that s great
yes roxanne is a very solid ciem hard to beat by anything
except their own higher ends
Will going with the 11s be a big upgrade from my fiio BTR5 usb dac?
Hello. Do you think I could use this as a smarthphone? I don't care about sim card, just navigate on the internet, watch videos on youtube and social media.
Hey, you can do that easily on M11S
@@Soundnews Thank you so much.
I've heard the m11 plus has way better standby time then the m11s..
This or the Shanling M3 Ultra? I mostly listen to electronic, house/trance/progressive, dub, reggae and very few instrumental bands. I already have a few Fiio products, FHE Eclipse IEMs, K7 DAC, Fiio UTWS5. Other IEMs I use are S12 pro and Zetian Wu Heyday also using the iFi GoBlu as a dongle DAC. I prefer the form factor of the M3U and all reviews I've seen so far say that it's a warmer sound signature than the Fiio which I prefer. Another thing is Shanling support seems crap, their website won't even open for me to download updates. Would appreciate your input to make the decision easier, thanks.
I have the FiiO R7 which contain the DAP M11s. I also have the Shanling M3X and to me the FiiO is by far superior in term of sound quality.
I hates ess..dun come in akm?
I bought the HiBy R5 Gen 2. F. 😔
how are u liking it so far? I have been thinking of m11s or the R5 gen 2 🥹
@@teamkaskas I'm using it right now. It's awesome!
@@MobileDecay Thanks for the reply. I would strongly consider the R5 G2 👌👌👌
@@teamkaskas Awesome!
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I like sonys mp3 players. I dont need streaming
Я всё ещё использую Fiio x5iii...