STEINBERG AXR4 | Hi-Res Audio Interface with RUPERT NEVE SILK Circuits
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2020
- STEINBERG AXR4 | Hi-Res Audio Interface with RUPERT NEVE SILK Circuits
The Steinberg AXR4 Audio Interface is a Rack-Mountable Ultra Low Latency Audio Interface with Rupert Neve Design's SILK Circuits - It comes in Thunderbolt 2 (AXR4T) or USB 3.0 Type-C (AXR4U) with 32-bit integer recording and a max of 384Khz Sample Rate.
This Audio Interface has been at the heart of my studio for the past few months.
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I have had mine for a few months now. You can stop looking at interfaces for a very long time after you get this. Unbelievable punch and clarity, simply stunning.
@@supersymmetric6337 Not once the drums come in LOL
how would you say it stands against Prism sound, lyra, if you had them?
@@MrKalimag never had them ..
How does it compare to motu 828es or new motu mk5?
@@Judasz696 Different league
“I’m glad he’s doing a review of a Steinberg interface since their stuff is normally less expensive than..... holy crap.... is that in dollars?” Haha. Thanks for all the content you put out there Chris. I keep learning a ton from you!
LOL! To release a high-end interface like this one is a first for Steinberg. I'm actually happy they did though. They now have audio interfaces for all budgets and needs.
Thanks Chris! I've got an AXR4U on the way (very excited). Looking forward to your next video on the Cubase integration, which was also the big deciding figure for me to make this upgrade. Also looking forward to another Dom collaboration video : )
I’ve been using my UR824 for almost 10 years, when the time comes I’ll probably be looking at an AXR.
Even in this crazy time, you are unstoppable! Thanks!
Lol You're welcome bro!
Nice review Chris, keep up the great work, very much appreciated, Cheers Bruce :-)
My pleasure!
Thanks! This video made up my mind what to choose :)
Hey Chris, just watched your video! We have pretty much the same opinion about the AXR4, and it's great!
I do agree, the integration with Cubase on top of the quality f this interface is what made me go that route too. Especially if you re working with Cubase for years, it makes a great difference!
Excellent video! Thank you!
P.S. I'll keep you posted when I release mine ;)
Awesome, please do :-)
Awesome Chris! Stellar once more! Do you use a dedicated headphone controller or the headphone outs of the AXR in your studio? :)
Hey brother, thanks! I actually work with the Heritage Audio RAM2000 as a monitor controller (video coming soon) so I use it also for my headphones since it's right beside me on my desk. Just too lazy to reach for the AXR4 that is on my rackmount Lol!
Wow! I love it. I hope to have it someday. I think the blue silk effect goes better on lower freq. instrus and the red option on the higher ones. Thanks Chris
I think so too!
Nice review! I’ve got three of these daisy chained. Love them 🖤
Oh wow! That's pretty nice!
Have you figured out how to get regular PC audio to record back into the DAW without actually running a cable from out to in, Loopback on instruments coming in is fine, but say you want to record something from the internet into cubase, the matrix does not show how to connect it.
Also are you daisy chaining with the AES or ADAT ? Thank You.
Amazing 👏
Thanks 😄
great stuff Chris - I have been waiting for this one. love the new eq 3 & 76 compressor. much easier ergonomically than the classic interface imo. dspmixer looks a lot better. as regards cubase mixer integration i dislike the design of the pre / post switch which is hidden when we used narrow channel views - something Steinberg should definitely address. do you find the on board display useful or do you ignore it and use the cubase meters fpr gain staging?
The on-board display is useful for sure, I like seeing the signal meters off the display, useful when recording with my external mixer and preamps
Steinberg are the best 😍😍 (no giveaway though 😔)
guess I would use the blue for drums n bass and red for guit and so on... sounds awesome
Something like that, yes! For vocals, that depends on the vocalist
Hey Chris, Great Video as always. Can you talk about your experience with the latency during recording as well as any differences changing buffer settings of the computer. Thanks
I have a very fast computer and with this Thunderbolt interface, latency is not an issue when recording bass and guitars and stuff, better than what I had before. But when I record drums and vocals, I always monitor via DSPmixFX using Direct Monitoring so this way I really get no audible latency
Im using a UR824 and looking to upgrade to axr4 firstly is it worth it and can the units be linked ?
thank you very much! Would you recommend usb or thunderbolt?
I wish they came out with something of a 8 input mic for druks
that silk makes the records sound idunno how to put it... more polished? more studio sound?? it just sounds more finished I guess. Crazy how saturation can do that, maybe its glue? it sounds good either way.
Totally interested in your take on the neve 5057
Great video. I was excited to see the interface when it debuted at NAMM two years ago. I use a pair of Steinber MR816x interfaces as well as a Yamaha N12, which all work together to provide me with 28 analog inputs and 20 analog outputs as well as latency free monitoring for headphone mixes. Steinberg / Yamaha makes nice stuff. The only thing that kind of irks me about the AXR4 is the 32bit native recording mode, which seems completely pointless. I don't understand why one would ever use or need that, especially considering that no 24bit interface on the market is even using the full 24bit dynamic range. Indeed, the s/n spec on the AXR4 analog inputs is impressive; 119db. But that's not 24bit (which has a theoretical dynamic range of 144db). No interface can operate at a true 24bit dynamic range due to the limitations of the analog components themselves. So why bother with 32bits? Seems like a waste of harddrive space.
The interface does sound good, though, and the preamps have a really nice character to them.
Nice setup you have there Jim! I totally agree with you on the 32bit, I need to ask a few questions on the "why" 32bit integer with 119db of input dynamic range.
the 32-bit converters give it about an extra pad of 10db, the sell is you can't clip the converters. While in a studio this would be a rookie mistake, using this thing in the field is a different story. The guys using this thing for live shows love the converters and that extra headroom. Not sure what it would do in a proper studio environment ... loud rapper, loud horns? lol idunno
@@gravesg You may not be able to clip the converters but you can certainly clip the analog front end feeding the converters since no analog circuit on earth has enough headroom before clipping to even provide a true, clean, full 24bit signal, much less a 32bit one.
Hi Chris. Thanks for your great videos.
I bought an AXR4T to use with a Dell 5530 laptop that has a Thunderbolt 4 port. I'm using a Startech adapter to convert Thunderbolt 2 to 3, but I haven't been able to install the AXR at all, and the device remains unusable. Do you know any solutions?
Can I use the AXR with a Mac Studio? Because I intend to buy a Mac Studio. Thanks.
Is there an spdif in/out port on this? Thank you.
The big question is can you hook up analogue gear for a DA to AD?
Hi there Chris, great video! Just wanted to know your thoughts about the Icon Qcon Pro X Daw controller? I've heard mixed reviews on it and I also saw your other great review of the Presonus controller. Which one do you think is better? I'm leaning towards the Icon. I would appreciate your comments on this. Keep safe and have a great Easter!
I saw the Icon at NAMM but never experimented myself with it, so I couldn't tell.
If you purchase the other Yamaha vintage collection will they work with this interface or are they just native plugins only? I was curious if you can actually buy more plugins for this interface
Chris...Can you use dspmixfx while running cubase or is it unavailable like it was with ur828? I mean, monitoring by control room in cubase is cool, but i rather use extra contol panel (like totalmix for rme or console for uad). Can't seem to find answer anywhere. thx
Hi...my PC support thunderbolt 3
How connect this interface that supports thunderbolt 2 ? please
It would be interesting to use the UR RT4 via the analog line level patch to get four extra Pres on the AXRT4.
Interesting, but the problem with this is that the URRT4 will convert to digital at the beginning of the signal path and back to analog on the direct out before going in the AXR4 for this example. I'm just not crazy with too much AD/DA conversion when recording :-)
@@mixdownonline yup that makes sense since these aren't Direct Outs. Oh well, I guess a 500 series lunchbox with a few neve pres wouldn't hurt. 😁
Hi...can u do a review on Steinberg Ur816c...❤️
Hi, Chris. I have two pairs of monitors. Can I connect them and switch between them? I need a quick switch as on the controller, how convenient is this implemented here?
I use a Monitor Controller ua-cam.com/video/jm-FGpUr3nU/v-deo.html but you can set this up in the Cubase Control Room (Pro Version) ua-cam.com/video/u9uS1btVSgY/v-deo.html
@@mixdownonline Thank you for the information. Do I understand correctly that switching between pairs can also be done via the Moni menu on the audio interface? I'm going to use both pairs in addition to working in DAW
Hi, want to know that is this thing can compete with Apollo X8? because thay both price same.
Hi Chris. My motherboard is TB3 on PC, how can I use this interface with my pc or should I just get the USB version?
Wich converters do u think are a really GAME CHANGER? I'm using a RME 800, what do u think about it? Nice videos ♥
RME are known to have great converters. My first audio interface was an RME. It served me well.
Grab an older Aurora16 with a thunderbolt if you want to record with outboard preamps + a UAD DSP card.
rme were smeared compared to prism sound, i went lyra to titan, end game, latency with usb is under 5ms too for drums guits etc, stunning
BIEN TOP
I know I have the lynx aurora 16 so there is my question :
are the converters better than the aurora ?
Also, can silk be added to each track and if so how many? Say i want Blue on track 1-4 and red on 5-10 can this happen with it?
As always Steinberg is offering some "nice to have" features like the DSP and the Cubase integration but miss some other things which are much more important to me...like physical gain knobs.
The silk feature sounded "OK" to me but not as good as the "air" feature on my Focusrite Clarett 4Pre USB what leads to my overall impression: Although I don't need that many inputs in my homerecording studio I think I would get a better interface out there, to stay with my choice for example with a Clarett 8Pre and an optional Octopre and all that for a lower price.
And that's the main point... it might be a good interface but 2500€??? Come on Steinberg, that is just ridiculous!!!
But as always, a very nice and informative video you're still my main source regarding Cubase!
There's actually a know to control SILK and another one that controls all other parameters. As far as the price goes, it is expensive but we're talking about high-end preamps and converters, same quality and price range that you get with the UAD Apollo and Apogee interfaces. Not made for everyone for sure. Check out the UR-C Series, they use the same version of the DSPmixFX with a lower price range new.steinberg.net/audio-interfaces/ur-c-series/
@@mixdownonline Thx I'm quite happy with my Focusrite Clarett 4Pre, has lots of options and preamps are at level or close at least with UAD I think
@@boogie2266 That is the important thing, to work with something you like and that serves you well. Never tried Focusrite interfaces but only heard good things :-)
@@mixdownonline They are in totally different leagues lol
Hind sight is the best sight now 2 years later I am looking forward into investing in this interface. May I dear say ATMOS mixing this interface was design for long in advance of cubase 12 or nuendo . At 384k this easily qualifies as a true Hi Res Lossless transfer main interface. Its always said Hardware before software. Running 12 channels for Atmos 7.1.4 at 384k wow this one will need a powerful DAW processor.
Could you show some of the adat options, specially how you use them! I’m looking for a new interface, but need more IO for my studio. I’m a Cubase user, so this would be a great options if the adat provide me with enough options.
Do you already have an ADAT Converter?
Chris Selim - Mixdown Online currently I’m using a focusrite 18i20 with an octopre which gives me 16 pre-amp inputs. I don’t really need 16 pre-amps, but plan to change the 18i20 and keep the octopre with the new interface. With the ACR4 should give me this 12 pre-amp, which is more than enough. I’m just wondering what the option of the octopre would be within the mix software of the AXR4. Can I use silk on the octopre imputes etc.
Hey Chris please guide how to Eq my reverb in Cubase ? like its done in other DAW using busses
Check this old video of mine ua-cam.com/video/vGc_6sUz1_c/v-deo.html I talk about Eq a reverb on one of the tips I share
I can’t wait for the Cubase and AXR4 integration video
It's on my list, it will come out, promise :-)
Are there any latencey isuues? No nudging I hope
Hi Chris, can you use the 4 Yamaha plugins also when mixing or only with recording? There was an update not long ago…
Thank you
You can also use them when mixing :-)
Sounds great! I got a AXR some months ago for testing, was an amazing experience. The converters/signal path of this unit is stunning, such a pristine, crisp sound, also the bottom end has a nice, warm punch...
It’s a high end interface for sure and in the same ballpark as Apogee, Lynx etc.. People tend to say there is not much difference in converters, interfaces these days. But I have to say, I have never heard my monitors sound better than with the AXR. I had an Symphony Mk I, Aurora (old one) and the Big Six over the last years. Also a ID44 which on paper has “better” conversion, but only on paper. The AXR is the best of all of those mentioned, though some have higher AD/DA conversion on paper…just my personal impression, highly subjective. I don’t want to say that the others a bad, they are fantastic, but if you want just a few percentage of better resolution and detail, well don’t look further than the AXR. It might not have the best reputation and Steinberg is a bit slow on updates, but it’s a reliable, stable interface.
I will get one soon, especially after the update. Thanks!😊
Have you had any problems with audio driver conflict. Running windows 10, everything work prior to installing this interface. I have an axr4u but it really only outputs sound in cubase nothing else?!? Set Up and manual has no real info as well steinberg support page.. at a lost and about to give up on steinberg.
Chris... pleas, halp me with this. I want to purchase a SSL Sigma 2. But i've the axr4t already. Them can do the same work? Sorry by my ignorance. im learning. And the final question is: Does an axr4t' Sliks are the same from a Portico II from neve? i want to buy this too. but maybe i can do all with this Axr4t. Thanks friend, for all.
Hello sir,, how to connect two audio interface in cubase 10.5
You can't. Only one audio device ata time supported
What are your thoughts in terms of AXR4 drivers (holding a bunch of VSTs/Plugins) x Asio Guard. I mean, Cubase in order to prevent spikes and glitches increases the latency when things get crowd, some times it happens even with just a few Plugins opened. This can be seen when you turn "on" the main Asio Latency Compensation button, it turns off a lot of Plugins in order to preserve low latency.
I'm a producer that uses VSTs as 95% of everybody does.
How to better handle those situations in Cubase.
My system: Cubase 10 - Mac mini 2018 - i7 6core 3.0ghz - 16gb ram - HD SSD 512 - RME Fireface UCX - Nektar Impact LX 49+
The AXR4T handles that pretty well since the one I have is Thunderbolt 2 that is pretty fast. But the computer's processing power is a bigger factor when it comes to handle VSTi(s) and latency imo
@@mixdownonline IMO your videos are the best ones in all aspects, Cubase, Mix, Mastering, Plugins, Functions, etc. The way you speak it's so easy to understand that makes your videos a English Class Bonus, hehehe.
Would be nice to watch a video explaining how to optimize Latency vs CPU usage during the production step using VSTs.
Thanks in advance, keep rocking, Guru!
Is the silk on the way in or out?
Sir can you please tell what is RTL figure in your DAW at 32/64 buffers at 192 Khz ?
I use Slate DIgital VMS, so DAW latency is a key priority for me. I cant use DSP here.
ALso please share review about driver's stability and WDM support.
Thanks
I mainly work in 24/48khz and sometimes at 96Khz. ASIO Drivers is what is supported in Cubase
@@mixdownonline Can you please just take a screenshot in Cubase Audio settings, and tell Round Trip Latency figure showing there (input+output) by choosing Sample Rate as 192 and buffers at 32 and 64 ?
I was going to buy one of these but looks like they’ve been discontinued now 😢
What other pro soundcard that works well with cubase would you recommend?
Funny enough, I'm actually thinking of selling mine, but not sure yet. It's a great interface, and the Cubase integration is great! Send me an email If you're interested. info@mixdownonline.com
Most interfaces will work well with Cubase, but the Cubase integration found in Steinberg's interfaces like this one, are unique to Steinberg.
Hi can you use silk without having to run hardware through the front 4 preamps? Like maybe applying it to pre-recorded samples for example.
No you can't since SILK is not a plugin.
@@mixdownonline thanks!
I'm using Windows 10 i7 6800k.
My PC has thunderbolt ready but I haven't tried. Do you think I'll be able to use the TB version?
You will have to check the specs of your motherboard but chances are that you will be able. If your thuderbolt connectors are Type-C, you will need a StarTech.com Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter
I understand that silk is just for the 4 inputs while recording...but does silk show up on every track in cubase while mixing
No it doesn't, it's when recording only.
Thank you for the quick reply. I am considering getting this unit but I have so much invested in uad plugs ..hardware and add on cards plus the Townsend mic...I was worried about loosing my guitar and bass amps on the uad input mixer....how does the Steinberg handle the vst amps when plugged directly into the unit?...also anything else you can think of for someone like me wanting to change over...thanks for all you do.
Hi, you should say headphones "outputs".
Lol... You're right... Another of these days where my tongue doesn't follow my brain...
@@mixdownonline No problem, regards.
I'll probably stay on my RME for now :)
Is it possible that i can hookup the line output of my 8 channel pre amp (it has 8x 6.3mm TRS line output)
into the line input of the AXR4? This way i can record 8 channels simultaneously 32/384
For that money I will go RME any day, any time.
Sure, RME makes good products
Which RME product supports 32 bits float recording @ 384Khz ?
Can´t make it record internally - but have to go out to a patchbay and back. WHY ? RME from 2005 can do it internally... Loopback ? HA - does not work proberly. Tired of Pretend SILK and not the real deal. Evry body talks about "Red and blue" - but COME ON - if it can do the basics on a PC DAW the...... sigh ..... - BUT as always Chris - a great video - Thanks !
UA-cams compression is killing the sound we really can't hear the difference.
That happens
But no updates or software updates for a very long time, the cheaper stuff is better looked after
'Sound' interface...
For £2000, and steinberg awful customer service, even if I had that to spend, I'd rather spend it on something that isn't steinberg. Love cubase, but I would definitely not be giving them any more of my money, regardless of how good their product is.
I never had a problem with Steinberg's customer service but I understand that a bad customer service can be a deal breaker.
After dealing with pro tools and logic, hands down, Steinberg is the best when it comes to innovation and customer satisfaction
Avli Avliav really? With my cases for cubase it always took several weeks for them to respond to the initial request. And more weeks for updates. Useless...
Edit: well, always = twice. I didn’t bother to open any case anymore after that.