Guess he felt he couldn't get away with cheating since it was all pros, or atleast regs at those stakes. Granted it doesn't matter since we don't ever have any big events in Pittsburgh, but he would have to have some major cajones to ever show up there to play poker again.
dude won 23k in one hand...more than most people make over 3 months and calls it "a good night"...poker really is something else man lol. I ain't hating it's just crazy how money works in high stakes poker.
@@LesChats1991 lol at the fact that torelli the angler got wrecked can't decide who I love watching get humbled more... nick the nit or garret who I'm glad he left the poker scene crying
I watched this live and remember wondering why you checked the flop. It’s amazing how much one street can tilt the favor of the outcome of a hand. If there’s on thing I’ve learned from watching your channel it’s “don’t under-rep a hand if you’re not prepared to make huge call downs” cause most good players will bet when they sense weakness. Of course, that can work in our favor, but I think more often than not it’s better to play one’s hand fairly straight forward and let people guess!
I really like this video. It's so instructive to see you critique your own play. I love how you hide the villain's cards too. Please do more of these bart!
For the first hand right from the jump I was questioning the assumption that torrelli is only opening a tight range in this set up - simply because he’s a thinking and skilled player who wants to play IP against weaker players as much as possible. That being said - tough river decision. Even with a wider range than first assumed, it’s hard to find value hands we beat, or bluffs. I agree it’s more likely to be a pure bluff or nothing. I wouldn’t fault going either way here, but I would probably fold because I lean a little too nitty and I tend to bum hunt so I’d probably try wait for a clearer spot against some of the other players at the table 😂
Great call with AK. I always heard that players are afraid of getting bluffed in stream. I understand in your case protecting your brand but it never bothered me if I lose to a bluff on stream. I just try to play my best based on the information I have. I did make a bad call on stream for a 1500 dollar river bet (I think it was just about a 6k pot) at TCH in 10/25/50 when a flush came on the river and I made a bad read. It was against a good player capable of making a move and representing a flush. I wasn’t thinking about getting bluffed on stream but I really thought I had the best hand.
Given your view (correct IMO) that Mississippi straddles are bad for the game, what is your thought on a 25 ante with button 50 ante. Does it suffer from the same issues?
If the Hustler Casino production has a glitch regarding the card reader/display, that is huge. How many other hands are being shown as 'mucked' when in fact they are not the cards actually held by the players? Hustler needs to have a serious look at what is being displayed vs what is actually held.
In terms of live tells he didn’t even think about the Reraise preflop. He just quickly snapped in the call. Seems more like a drawing hand, but I’m surprised he was that loose preflop. That was definitely a hard call to make
Bart is an amazing coach and player. I watch and will be subscribing soon. One point I disagree with. On the river against Torelli it isn't a bad fold at all. If you fold and he's bluffing no decent poker player would consider getting outplayed. Why? It is an underbluffed spot. Look at the board texture. It's not like he's running you over on a 10 high paired rainbow board and you have a big overpair. Given the combos you mentioned this for me is a fold. It is a bluff catcher. Honestly I don't believe this is in the top 50 percent of hands you arrive with on the river. (Pocket QQ, Pocket AA, K10 suited, AJ,) This is either a brillant or awful call. In this case brilliant. Keep up the good work
Bart could certainly slow play AA most of the time, however he will bet flop with QQ most of the time as he unblocks his opponent having an A. Torelli could have 12 combos of AK and 2 combos of AQs (Torelli likely folds AQ offsuit preflop.) Bart is never 4 betting K10s or AJ against an opponent he deems tight aggressive and competent. Bart said there was a case for a fold on the river, however you have to take into account factors beyond the one hand. Meta is important. Bart knows he has a tight image and therefore can exploitatively bluff catch more against capable opponents. There is no one like a Garrett or Mariano on the table who will drop the hammer and perhaps Torelli would use this as a license to try to bully. When players are down for the session, they will open up their game and try harder to win it back (tilt.) Because it is a live stream and players want to get invited back they will have a higher than normal bluffing frequency.
Spoiler alert: I 3bet torelli with AK, he called I flopped AQJ and checked back for deception. Turn was a J and i called a bet. River bricked out He barreled allin pot size bet. My hand was underepped and I could have KK and I am at the top of my range as played, so I called. And I was good.
Isn’t it kind of weird that Phil “misread” his hand multiple times this week, always immediately after losing a huge pot, and in each occasion he feels the need to declare out loud the hand he thought the had?
Torelli has been losing a lot in live games. I think he's getting a nice healthy dose of karma, well deserved. Bart you got me rolling over here in the Hellmuth commentary..."Mr. READ"!!!! 🤣
I get into these metas all the time online this specific texture Ace hi paired board and you blast the river to try & get an Ace off a chop esp B vs B and you know its a battle of the aces. This is Sickly, Torelli is sicko too, nh!
AK was well play due to good read on Alec possible tilt..A10 was no brainer due to tight weak player behind got sticky...There are more to what one can see about RFID...stream game should go back to table cam less chance for shenanigans..30min delay is good enough
Do you think your suits are relevant here? If the only AJ and KJ he has are suited combos then the Ac and the Kc/Ks don't block any of his trips. 10 combos of AK have at least one of those 3 cards and only 6 don't . You have one of the good 6 combos. If you think its close between calling/folding why not just call the good combos fold the bad ones?
I'm playing way different stakes than this, but I find people iso-raising over multiple limpers pretty wide in my games online. Nice call, I probably would have tank-folded and let him get it through
Personally I think if you’re gonna check the flop you need to call down most of the time. Maybe you can fold with a spade if you want to find some AKs to fold. If you’re gonna under-rep your hand it should be to induce more bluffs or thin value bets that you can pick off.
Worked for ups 36 yrs when computers started scanning and reading address's things went to chaos if it didnt pu address out of database instantly it would replace it with something similar scanners are not foolproof watched this for 10 yrs plus
There’s definitely a small chance Phil actually did hero call knowingly with K high since he was so sure JR was bluffing and lied to protect his fragile narcissistic ego. It was a little weird how he mentioned he had an A multiple times.
A10 and K10 are the same hands from Hellmuth's perspective. They are both bluff catchers. Hellmuth realizes that J.R. is not value betting anything worse than A10. Any hand that A10 beats K10 also beats. So most likely, Hellmuth knew he had K10.
But would he donk k10 on the turn? Seems very unlikely. He doesn't know JR is going to raise and bet river. JR could have Ax flush draws. He loses to bluffed 45, 56 of clubs and maybe some Ax clubs if Phil thinks A10 could be good.
excuse my boldness but i'm here to opine and to learn. first hand: bet the flop, see where you're at. get value from worse. deny equity. as played, when underrepped and facing heavy action, i think you stick the plan and call down, or in essence bluff catch.
Cmon Bart you have TPTK in a 3b pot vs a good pro where you check back flop which has a ton of draws that all brick. Torelli is going to 4b QQ/JJ/AQ/AA a ton in this configuration CO vs BTN. You basically lose to AJ, QJs, Jxs and beat all the draws like T9s, random flush draws, maybe even Qx he’s turning into a bluff, and even ATs going for thin value. You block KT, KJ, and unblock all flush draws. Call faster next time plz ;).
Maybe a fold in other games, but never in this one. I can’t help but notice they are always trying to run you over. I am sure you are aware of that, and maybe even subconsciously gave that a thought when you found the correct call. I was cheering for you on that one, I am not a fan of Alec at all.
The biggest issue with those pro and so-called pro players: They expect you to do something that makes sense to them. Stop playing by the book and start using your guts
When Alec wins hidden cranberries appear in his stack. Once he told me i owed him my phone because his and mine were next to our stacks after he stacked me
Would love to get Torelli's angle on this.
This should eventually be top comment lol
His thought was, I’m in a hand with Bart so I can probably bluff him
You mean what angle shooting he should of pulled?
old material that never was funny. smh... doug polk fanboys.
@@ninjawood4058 don't have to be a "fanboy" to call out an angle shooting cheat. Only have to be a "fanboy" to try and defend a cheating asshat.
Seeing Torelli lose money is always a good upload.
I'm just glad Bart didn't get angled LOL
Indeed. I have no idea why HCL is giving Torelli a forum.
Why does Eve dislike Tortilla?
@@spikenomoon ua-cam.com/video/u14IvlJ4T9U/v-deo.html
I came here to write this comment
Nice to see Torelli's big chips out in front, and going to someone else.
😂😂
Guess he felt he couldn't get away with cheating since it was all pros, or atleast regs at those stakes.
Granted it doesn't matter since we don't ever have any big events in Pittsburgh, but he would have to have some major cajones to ever show up there to play poker again.
That’s gold!
"front & center"...🤣😂🤣
Got to love Bart''s honesty about his thought process.
Yeah I appreciate what he said about protecting his brand. Real af
Absolutely
dude won 23k in one hand...more than most people make over 3 months and calls it "a good night"...poker really is something else man lol. I ain't hating it's just crazy how money works in high stakes poker.
Oh I remember it live. Nice one! The entire chat has been waiting for Bart to play at least one hand :D
You’re the best commentator on Hustler IMO
Awesome Glad u won Bart... Torrelli is the villan we love but Bart is the Hero we Need lol
Your comment would have been better if you didn't type 'lol' in the end.
@@LesChats1991 lol at the fact that torelli the angler got wrecked can't decide who I love watching get humbled more... nick the nit or garret who I'm glad he left the poker scene crying
Bottom line here is... I respect their game.. not their stupid acts
Tortellini is no villian ffs,made one little mistake 5 years ago.
Polk fan girls need to get a life
@@Gos1234567 It wasn't "a little mistake" but I agree he should be forgiven by now.
"I lead out just so he would raise...he fell for it but he had a set" - Phil Helmuth 2024
as I said when I watched it the first time, that was top tier commentary from Bart on the Hellmuth hand
Been waiting for your thought process on this hand! Good call!
I watched this live and remember wondering why you checked the flop. It’s amazing how much one street can tilt the favor of the outcome of a hand. If there’s on thing I’ve learned from watching your channel it’s “don’t under-rep a hand if you’re not prepared to make huge call downs” cause most good players will bet when they sense weakness. Of course, that can work in our favor, but I think more often than not it’s better to play one’s hand fairly straight forward and let people guess!
Bart is just so balanced man.
I really like this video. It's so instructive to see you critique your own play. I love how you hide the villain's cards too. Please do more of these bart!
“Mr. Read! What a read!” 😂😂
I watched the hand vs Alec live, and am glad to get your thoughts on it now. Hopefully, he'll include his too in a video soon.
you know he wont.
god i love seeing alec torelli lose money. good call, bart. i'd rather lose 23k than get bluffed by that creepy narcissist too.
Always enjoy the analysis provided freely by Bart and the CLP channel…
For the first hand right from the jump I was questioning the assumption that torrelli is only opening a tight range in this set up - simply because he’s a thinking and skilled player who wants to play IP against weaker players as much as possible. That being said - tough river decision. Even with a wider range than first assumed, it’s hard to find value hands we beat, or bluffs. I agree it’s more likely to be a pure bluff or nothing. I wouldn’t fault going either way here, but I would probably fold because I lean a little too nitty and I tend to bum hunt so I’d probably try wait for a clearer spot against some of the other players at the table 😂
What a fun structure.
How did it feel playing it?
Lots of action!
Also it's hard to fake that tension and Alex moved his head and looked anxious and not in a faking you out way
Great call with AK. I always heard that players are afraid of getting bluffed in stream. I understand in your case protecting your brand but it never bothered me if I lose to a bluff on stream. I just try to play my best based on the information I have. I did make a bad call on stream for a 1500 dollar river bet (I think it was just about a 6k pot) at TCH in 10/25/50 when a flush came on the river and I made a bad read. It was against a good player capable of making a move and representing a flush. I wasn’t thinking about getting bluffed on stream but I really thought I had the best hand.
Sickness.. I know I have been bluffed off in this spot many times, good call
Given your view (correct IMO) that Mississippi straddles are bad for the game, what is your thought on a 25 ante with button 50 ante. Does it suffer from the same issues?
No
I think the stand up game is best for getting the game "out of the muck."
That is a tough spot. What is crazy is the check back was so unorthodox that it ended making you the max.
If the Hustler Casino production has a glitch regarding the card reader/display, that is huge. How many other hands are being shown as 'mucked' when in fact they are not the cards actually held by the players? Hustler needs to have a serious look at what is being displayed vs what is actually held.
Bart: She's very, very pair heavy...as you can see😂
Haha beat me too it.She is a mega milf though
Just saw this video for the first time, and I was going to comment the same thing.
Usually when the bluffer counts it out; it’s a tell.
Great win, and great broadcasting
Just a note but there's only 1 combo of both QJs and AJs. (QdJd, AdJd) since you block the Ah and all J and QJJ are diff suits.
Question is, does Bart call if this was non-televised against an unknown player? How much of brand protection factored into this?
In terms of live tells he didn’t even think about the Reraise preflop. He just quickly snapped in the call. Seems more like a drawing hand, but I’m surprised he was that loose preflop. That was definitely a hard call to make
Bart is an amazing coach and player. I watch and will be subscribing soon. One point I disagree with. On the river against Torelli it isn't a bad fold at all. If you fold and he's bluffing no decent poker player would consider getting outplayed. Why? It is an underbluffed spot. Look at the board texture. It's not like he's running you over on a 10 high paired rainbow board and you have a big overpair. Given the combos you mentioned this for me is a fold. It is a bluff catcher. Honestly I don't believe this is in the top 50 percent of hands you arrive with on the river. (Pocket QQ, Pocket AA, K10 suited, AJ,) This is either a brillant or awful call. In this case brilliant. Keep up the good work
Bart could certainly slow play AA most of the time, however he will bet flop with QQ most of the time as he unblocks his opponent having an A. Torelli could have 12 combos of AK and 2 combos of AQs (Torelli likely folds AQ offsuit preflop.) Bart is never 4 betting K10s or AJ against an opponent he deems tight aggressive and competent. Bart said there was a case for a fold on the river, however you have to take into account factors beyond the one hand. Meta is important. Bart knows he has a tight image and therefore can exploitatively bluff catch more against capable opponents. There is no one like a Garrett or Mariano on the table who will drop the hammer and perhaps Torelli would use this as a license to try to bully. When players are down for the session, they will open up their game and try harder to win it back (tilt.) Because it is a live stream and players want to get invited back they will have a higher than normal bluffing frequency.
Love this breakdown
Nice call Bart, not an easy one forsure. That's why it's called CrushLivePoker!
I’m surprised there was never any thoughts about suits in the first hand. I feel like you can separate your AK hands and fold when you have a spade.
Oh man Bart don’t do the thing where you spoil a significant part of the hand in the first 15 seconds like the Lodge.
I watched this...Awesome commentary.
Spoiler alert:
I 3bet torelli with AK, he called
I flopped AQJ and checked back for deception.
Turn was a J and i called a bet.
River bricked out
He barreled allin pot size bet.
My hand was underepped and I could have KK and I am at the top of my range as played, so I called. And I was good.
I don’t think I could focus sitting next to a rack like that. Kudos to you
She’s 🔥
weird thing to say...
You get that distracted every time you see cleavage?
Are you betting similar when you land here with AK? I think it’s just a shove spot. (Quads hand)
Thanks for the video, Bart.
After the turn there's only one combo of AJ suited. Not sure that should have too much weight. Curious why you mention it so much.
Isn’t it kind of weird that Phil “misread” his hand multiple times this week, always immediately after losing a huge pot, and in each occasion he feels the need to declare out loud the hand he thought the had?
Torelli has been losing a lot in live games. I think he's getting a nice healthy dose of karma, well deserved.
Bart you got me rolling over here in the Hellmuth commentary..."Mr. READ"!!!! 🤣
I'm 4:57 in and I absolutely LOVE Bart's ✔️ back on the flop...
Great call with the AK, btw what's that twitter feature saying "Normal 6%" about? Never saw that.
Its a free Chome plugin called Sentinel Bot
@@CrushlivePoker oh ok cool
"I want to protect my brand" is the new "it was suited" 🤣🤣🤣
He is pretty tricky…and left handed 🖐
tbh that was a good all in by Alec. i wonder if he would have done the same with a Jack or straight or boat.
Nice call. I thought Alec played that pretty good. Definitely repped a monster and pretty tough to put him on spades.
Picked up a live tell of the mouth on @bart Hanson when he flopped those trips haha
I just love it when women play with low cut shirts. It just makes my day a little bit better
Time to hop in that Friday game Bart
I get into these metas all the time online this specific texture Ace hi paired board and you blast the river to try & get an Ace off a chop esp B vs B and you know its a battle of the aces. This is Sickly, Torelli is sicko too, nh!
Just subscribed to CLP. Hope to talk with you at some point and submit a hand soon. Thanks Bart
Dam crush live poker vs conscious poker 😂
Wow, i put Torelli on 10s 9s. To be far weaker than that is pretty crazy. A bluff either or i suppose.
Why did you assume that he was not wide. It's so profitable to punish the Limpers with almost any playable hand
AK was well play due to good read on Alec possible tilt..A10 was no brainer due to tight weak player behind got sticky...There are more to what one can see about RFID...stream game should go back to table cam less chance for shenanigans..30min delay is good enough
Thanks for explaining the structure, but for hustlers, it doesn't seem like a big game...
24:00 Did Bart say Julia is "pair heavy"? He ain't lyin. Good read Bart
Definitely a betting man that Phil called with k high then said ace high to make look better 😂
Do you think your suits are relevant here? If the only AJ and KJ he has are suited combos then the Ac and the Kc/Ks don't block any of his trips. 10 combos of AK have at least one of those 3 cards and only 6 don't . You have one of the good 6 combos. If you think its close between calling/folding why not just call the good combos fold the bad ones?
dealer occludes your view of Alex, nice gesture to lean back, does you a courtsey there
Nice to see Angle Torelli get caught!!
For the Brand 🙌 😂
21:54 All-in, people dont fold fullhouses
He put you on Kings.
I'm playing way different stakes than this, but I find people iso-raising over multiple limpers pretty wide in my games online. Nice call, I probably would have tank-folded and let him get it through
Personally I think if you’re gonna check the flop you need to call down most of the time. Maybe you can fold with a spade if you want to find some AKs to fold.
If you’re gonna under-rep your hand it should be to induce more bluffs or thin value bets that you can pick off.
Worked for ups 36 yrs when computers started scanning and reading address's things went to chaos if it didnt pu address out of database instantly it would replace it with something similar scanners are not foolproof watched this for 10 yrs plus
He fell for it, but he had a set. That is the opposite of falling for it
There’s definitely a small chance Phil actually did hero call knowingly with K high since he was so sure JR was bluffing and lied to protect his fragile narcissistic ego. It was a little weird how he mentioned he had an A multiple times.
this. he was desperate for everyone to know what he had.
14:47 When graphics is in error, then... Throw whole analysis away. When a horse defaults, there is no journey!
She certainly pair heavy
A10 and K10 are the same hands from Hellmuth's perspective. They are both bluff catchers. Hellmuth realizes that J.R. is not value betting anything worse than A10. Any hand that A10 beats K10 also beats. So most likely, Hellmuth knew he had K10.
But would he donk k10 on the turn? Seems very unlikely. He doesn't know JR is going to raise and bet river. JR could have Ax flush draws. He loses to bluffed 45, 56 of clubs and maybe some Ax clubs if Phil thinks A10 could be good.
excuse my boldness but i'm here to opine and to learn. first hand: bet the flop, see where you're at. get value from worse. deny equity. as played, when underrepped and facing heavy action, i think you stick the plan and call down, or in essence bluff catch.
I like under repping my hand here it protects my check back range and yeah obviously once you do that you’re not folding on this run out.
Cmon Bart you have TPTK in a 3b pot vs a good pro where you check back flop which has a ton of draws that all brick. Torelli is going to 4b QQ/JJ/AQ/AA a ton in this configuration CO vs BTN. You basically lose to AJ, QJs, Jxs and beat all the draws like T9s, random flush draws, maybe even Qx he’s turning into a bluff, and even ATs going for thin value. You block KT, KJ, and unblock all flush draws. Call faster next time plz ;).
I really hope u win bart, no offense toward alex but your much easier to root for.
NIT VS NIT WOOHOO
“…pair heavy”.
If I found myself in a high stakes game with Torelli and I played from Bart's perspective my hand would definitely be in the muck on the river.
Nooo wayyyy. Torelli is gonna view Bart as a nit and pressure up. Also torelli is gonna 4b AA QQ and JJ so he is combinatorically nut capped.
He might 4 bet qq but I wouldn't be surprised to see him call qq and jj.
Maybe a fold in other games, but never in this one. I can’t help but notice they are always trying to run you over. I am sure you are aware of that, and maybe even subconsciously gave that a thought when you found the correct call. I was cheering for you on that one, I am not a fan of Alec at all.
I'm even rooting for Hellmuth over Torelli 😂
So basically torelli wins that hand with 45 of spades if it’s not on the live stream. Lol
why you guys hate Torelli??
Phil- 'look honey he only had 3 queens!'
He put to the test ,you passed
I think Doug Polk should unretire just for this one! The helmuth call
'They were right here'
The biggest issue with those pro and so-called pro players: They expect you to do something that makes sense to them. Stop playing by the book and start using your guts
When Alec wins hidden cranberries appear in his stack. Once he told me i owed him my phone because his and mine were next to our stacks after he stacked me
wow nice read
This is a fold, except against Alec Torelli. Good luck, sir!
Nice !!!!!
While he was waiting for you to make your decision, his face and body language read "I'm uncomfortable and hate life"
Wow Johnny won on stream
Hellmuth always lies about his hand when he gets crapped on lol
Thank god for settings/speed/2x.
Ya shoulda blocked out Jibrael's hand too, him having a J blocker kinda spoiled it
Torrelli is usually such a nit, surprised he blasted off with garbage there