EDIT: I just wanted to say, the part saying how XC1's ending *might* have been similar to XC2 before the changes, that is only my SPECULATION X) All we do know is that the ending was changed, but what it was originally we haven't got a clue! Didn't mean to make that sound as if it were fact, it's part of the theory :) Sorry Thanks to Jack Erdynast for providing the voice-over for my video! Here is a link to his Twitch channel: www.twitch.tv/xalyte Here's a link to my U.M.N. Discord server :) discord.gg/GW8DBwWM8g
The only flaw with this theroy is the nopon on mira. They have knowledge of the monado due to the sword of legideryness, frontier vialliage and during the ending call humans hom hom
@@notthatthenamematters6163 i think something like lins hair clips being are a reference, maybe even the sword of legendary Ness. But the mention of hom hom and frontier village are way too important to be references
As others have already pointed out: The nopon knowledge is most likely just an easter egg. Actually, all of XcX is more or less an easter egg itself. I always recommend new comers to the entire Xeno series to save XcX for last because of how it seems to be this "greatest hits collection" of each of the Xeno series.
Now if we take Origin into the picture, and if Mira is a byproduct of Origin being tossed away after XC3, then this makes quite sense that Nopon are seemingly native to Mira. Put this together with the fact that humans in X first discovered ether on Mira and it adds up.
Well that's sort of true for this too. In the X timeline there is no Klaus. It's just that Klaus in the XC2 universe activates the Conduit, and some of the humans are transported to the X timeline and become the Samaarians.
This was a solid theory! I really hope that future installments give us the pieces of the puzzle we need to finally understand the links between all the Xenoblade games.
@@momol2l285 He is referring to the perfect works story for xenogears, where the game was supposed to be in a six episode game series xenogears would have been episode 5. However, xenogears didn’t do so well and the other episodes were scrapped. But other xeno games do carry out some elements of the episodes. Xenosaga and xenoblade x have elements of episode 1, and xenoblade 1 and 2 have elements of episode 4.
A theory my friend and I threw around (before 2) was that Dr. Klaus was trying to prevent Luxor's invasion. Those who escaped set up Chronicles X. Then we started thinking what if the conduit was the Zohar, and Klaus was responsible for Lost Jerusalem? We wrote it off as silly, but now...
So I started the Xeno series with X, have played through all of 2 and am working my way through 1 Definitive Edition. I love these games dearly, but my understanding of the greater, overarching Xeno series besides Xenoblade is kinda limited to Wikipedia entries. I say all this to highlight a lot of the nuance and hidden references just go right over my head in this series and, while absolutely loving it, I think I struggle to get all out of it I can. Setting up that context to say how grateful I am you seem to be pretty well informed on this complex topic and I’d love to hear more theories in the future. You’ve more than earned my subscribe.
Wow, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :) I was in the same place having only played Xenoblade, over the last year I've been playing through all the other Xeno games and I'm just on the last one now. I find all of it fascinating, so I love to make videos exploring these stories. I plan on redoing my previous theory and archives videos with voice overs and such to make them similar to this. Hopefully make them more enjoyable. Hope you'll continue to enjoy them! :)
I think XCX is simply the continuation/aftermath of the Perfect Works. XC1 is the imaginary plane, XC2 the real plane, XCX could take place in the Upper Domain (or at least Mira could exist there).
@@myboy732 Sorry, I keep writing Great when I mean Perfect. It's Perfect Works, or basically the core structure of all three Xeno storylines. And I'm not just referring to Xenosaga, but Xenogears too.
I like this theory and for the most part its very similar to what I think is going to happen as well with a few differences in terms of the timeline and the events that occur. I believe that Mira IS the same world that shulk and alvis created. I also believe that Rex and the gang were transported to this new world at the end of XC2 and I believe theres gonna be another MC in XC3 who's gonna connect everything but thats all I'm gonna say cos I have my own vid coming out on this topic soon 😜 The only thing I lack knowledge on is Xenosaga and Xenogears which could give me a better idea how everything connects. Anyways good interesting video and was fun to watch
Yeah, I'm currently getting through the last game I need to play which is Xenogears. Once I've done that I'll be able to have a proper read of parts of the Perfect Works and maybe construct some better theories. Atm there is this theory, but the other most popular theory is that X takes place in Shulk's new world in the future which also works for various reasons. But yeah, I'm interested to hear your ideas on XC3 :)
@@LXGK I don't even know where to start with those games don't even know what game consoles there on 😂 also btw the discord link on your about is out of date
Always felt to me like the missing component of the Vita was games! But seriously I assumed where that was going is that the Vita was essentially an incomplete omnigear and the missing component was an anima relic or whatever they call those in the blade series lore.
I figured at best, the Telethia in X just has a different origin than Zanza, but addressing the theory at face value I'd say it's pretty good! I know X1 was originally made not in any relation to Gears or Saga - the original title was Monado, so while we have stronger Zohar allusions in X and 2, the fact that it wasn't originally in 1 kinda tosses me off any theory that may rely on being connected to Gears and Saga.
I don't know why you guys still go on about xenoblade 1 not meant to be a xeno game when alvis is the third aegis from xenoblade 2 and has a core crystal necklace shaped like the conduit/zohar just like the other aegis core crystals, or the fact both 1 and 2 are connected. heck if you bothered to look at kayjulers' xenoblade 3 rumors video this week you'd learn that the xenoblade games are trying to tell the same episodic story takahashi's been trying to tell for years since xenogears from the xenogears perfect works. it was always meant to be a xeno game, heck that claim you just made also means you didn't watch the whole video above because he talked about how takahashi took those zohar/conduit elements out of xenoblade 1 to not confuse new players but originally they were gonna be in the game, therefore xenoblade 1 was always a xeno game. quit being in denial.
@@infern24 So Alvis's necklace was a key in the original Xenoblade 1, and even if Xenoblade as a whole isn't connected to Xenogears or Xenosaga, I do agree that Xenoblade 1 is tied to Xenoblade 2 - theyre both Xenoblade after all. Now, looking at X1 as originally released, there's no Zohar-shaped object anywhere. True, there are hints and themes that are similar to his previous projects, but nothing even close to suggesting a connection. It just got the Xeno name as a nod to those titles. Now, could it have been retrofitted to now fit the whole Xeno mythos? Perhaps. I haven't seen KayJulers video on this subject mostly as it hadn't come out at the time of my post (or at least I wasn't aware of it), but yeah originally Xenoblade 1 wasn't conceived to be a part of Saga or Gears.
Can I just say, this whole video is just theory and speculation. It's indeed true that *something* about the ending was changed, but in reality we don't know what. It's just an educated guess on my part given Takahashi described it as "previous knowledge", suggesting there was something in the ending originally that players would recognise but was removed to not confuse newer players to Monolith's games. Many people bring up the fact Xenoblade 1 wasn't meant to be one because it was originally a game called "Monado: Beginning of the World". Still obviously containing Gnostic references like his previous works [Monado = Monad], but it wasn't called Xeno. It's both plausible that there wasn't a plan for it to be a Xeno game and plausible Takahashi had a whole idea planned beforehand. Nevertheless, nothing to get heated about. Happy discussing :)
I really like this theory. And heck, at this point... the possibilities are truly endless for how Xenoblade may continue. I'd like to believe that Takahashi has already everything planned out for the next full Saga ^^ Fantastic video man! Unironically underrated :D
Something that is worth considering as well is when Shulk makes his wish for a world with no God's and he throws his Mondado into the Monado ring, it shows what almost seems like either the creation or unbarring of a universe. The scene shows the bionis existing within a closed shell with nothing outside of it, and then it bursts into a full universe. So the question to be asked is did they create a new universe, or did they simply uncage their realm and join it with the rest of the world. Then that whole event opened up the fog gates that happened in Future Connected. Which possibly also opened the link that allowed Shulk to go into Xenoblade 2 whether you find it canon or not it makes sense. As well as for Elma, in the scene when she unveils her true form she comes out of a machine that looks awfully like the ones KOSMOS came out of in Xenosaga as well as the ones Shion had to go into to get into KOSMOS's subconscious, if I recall that correctly. So there's some possible connections between Elma and KOSMOS there as well. Lots of things in X being Zohar shaped, same with the Aegis symbols being Otherwise great video I love theorizing about these games.
I think its something more simple. When world got split into xenoblade 1 and 2 you can see that those crosses also go in different directions. One of them ends in shulk dimension and other 2 are pyra and that other guy. What happens probaly is that once shulk fixes its thing, the earth goes back into a space from no-space. So all stuff ends in xenoblade X universe.
@@Bullminator That's another direction I was thinking as well. They join the universe of the other games combining the timelines into one single universe where each is accessible to the other.
Oh, no this is not my voice. I've been collabing with others to voice my videos, at the start of the video it says voice over by Jack Erdynast who helped out with this particular one 😅 But thank you! :)
YOOO THIS IS FUCKING LIT Well done, awesome theory I do wonder where exactly the conduit came from, and how it's linked to Mira, if at all. Maybe Mira is in someway the birthplace of the conduit, and the planet birthed it? Idk lol
Thank you! Haha. As for where the Conduit came from, it's likely its origin will be similar to the Zohar in Xenosaga. Which is it was created at the birth of the universe during the big bang. One little hole I have in this theory is that Luxaar says the Samaarians came from another plane at the "dawn of the cosmos". Whereas my theory says they arrived 10,000 years ago (to fit with the other timelines). But if they were there at the beginning then they possibly already possessed the Conduit, and Mira is possibly the Samaarian's homeworld, and this is all sounding like I'll have to make another video haha. There's a lot of what ifs with this. It's all very interesting. But thanks again! :)
Fantastic video, though I don't fully agree with everything. One theory I have is that Mira is created by Alvis or is even Alvis himself. Alvis acts similarly to the wave existence and u-do in gears in saga, u-do specifically attempts to observe humanity so it would make sense for Alvis to create Mira to for this purpose.
This is possible. Though I suppose it would suggest that as a Trinity Processor he had more to him than the other two. Unless ofc this suggests that maybe he's not in fact Ontos and we've still yet to find out who that is. I think, were Alvis to have a greater connection to U-DO (or the "Divine Entity") then perhaps he'd be used as an observational terminal like Abel. Thanks to this comment section, I've found a few people suggesting that the world of Xenoblade 1 may take place in the Imaginary Number Domain, and X too as it would take place in the future of Shulk's world (his world being Mira in the past which Alvis created?). There's lots of X theories, I would like to cover more of them sometime :) Assuming the next game doesn't steal my thunder there lol
I have a minor addendum to your theory. I noticed that you referenced Xenogears and Xenosaga, but didn't connect them. But they *are* connectable, by the Zohar/Conduit. All of the events involving Earth and the Zohar, leading up to the loss of Earth, in Xenosaga are pretty much exactly the same as those detailed as leading into the Klaus incident. I think that his tampering with the Conduit created all 5 timelines: -Xenoblade - pocket dimension with his dark half, Galea/Meyneth, and Ontos/Alvis -Xenoblade II - his good half, and the ruined remnants of Earth -Xenoblade X - at least a portion of the remains of humanity, as you theorize -Xenosaga - continues on from the Klaus incident, possibly with other survivors as in the X timeline -Xenogears - splits off from Xenosaga III, because I believe Xenosaga Abel and Xenogears Abel are one and the same
Yeah, I mainly used Gears and Saga to show that Xenoblade might connect due to certain similarities. Plus I've yet to finish Gears so I don't feel I can add much on the subject. But I have finished Saga. And thinking just now. Xenosaga takes place 6000-7000 years after the Earth incident, whereas the Xenoblade games are set 10,000 years after. If Xenosaga happened in between.. and KOS-MOS's body landed back on Earth.. Klaus recreates her in Blade form.. hence why you can awaken her. Okay I need to rest my brain for a bit.
For this specific theory I'm writing those off as fun references. Similar to ignoring anything to do with the Nopon Archsage. In my Nopon XenoTheory video I do talk about that actually, I plan on redoing that video with a voice over eventually so yeah :)
@@LXGK what if nopon are the one who created the conduit 😳 no one mentioned they created them in 1 2 X and they know too much compared to other people things only them KNOWS
Had to watch this asap ;o First of all: you could very well be right with this. It certainly fits. Where I disagree with is how you assume Klaus' conduit experiment created 3 separate spaces (original earth, Bionis/Mechonis, X). If we accept that, then it might also be possible that there's a 4th, 5th, 6th, n-th separate space, too. In other words: Yes, could be, but would it make the story more interesting? I agree with the connection of Future Connected and X - those Telethia are no coincidence. However, I think 2 spaces are enough to explain the games' connection. That is if you incorporate Xenosaga's world design into Xenoblade: - Xenoblade 2 represents the original space, our real world. It exists within the 'Real Numbers Domain' (RND) - Xenoblade 1 represents a rather insane space, a world set on top of living titans? Ku-razy! ;o It exists within the 'Imaginary Numbers Domain' (IND) - Xenoblade X exists within the IND, just a really long time after Xenoblade 1's events. Now the big argument will be 'but Alvis created Xenoblade 1's universe, it can't be the IND!'. I disagree. I think Alvis is not quite as powerful as he made us believe to. Maybe he doesn't know better. Or maybe he is kind of a villain as others have theorized. But matter of fact is that the IND is a place where thoughts and imagination are powerful assets. That's why in Xenoblade X, the different species can understand each other: they *want* to understand each other and so it happens. Heck, Alvis' "creation of a new universe without gods" might even be what caused the rifts in Future Connected. It would line up nicely timewise. Maybe he caused such a ruckus within the IND that monsters like the fog king (aka Xenoblade's version of the gnosis) fled over to the RND. Who knows, maybe Alvis was all-powerful and *destroyed* the IND, making gnosislike monsters seek refuge in the RND where they absolutely don't belong. That could be super exciting for Xenoblade 3, because without the IND, the whole lower domain becomes unstable and *that* will take the Upper Domain-inhabitants' attention :D Anyway, that's my 2 cent about it. I agree with a lot of your theory, I just don't accept the 3-way split you propose. We'll see ... soon, hopefully :D
I suppose one of the main aims of this theory is to try and construct a scenario in which the events of X somehow take place as concurrently as possible to the other games, similar to how Xenoblade 2 isn't a sequel but a "side"-quel as it takes place at the same time. Perhaps I should cover the theory of X taking place in XC1's future. As for XC1 & X being the IND, I suppose after playing Saga I've not really imagined the IND as being any sort of observable realm. Only when things from the IND manifest in the RND as material entities do they take on any sort of form, was what I gathered from it. Although it does try to clean up one thing that's been bothering me about Xenoblade. With Saga you just had the Lower Domain with our universe in the RND and the IND, and then the Upper Domain. It becomes very convoluted with Xenoblade if you consider these games being in different "universes". Would they each have their own RND and INDs? Or would they share the same ones? Assuming these concepts return properly in a 3rd game ofc, with many thinking the Fog King is a proper return of the idea of the Gnosis. So imagining XC1 in the IND does make a lot of sense, and it prevents the irritating idea that there could be possibly infinite universes with at least one thing from the original Earth in them. But yeah, the 3 world and 2 world interpretation are prioritising the idea of X taking place as close as possible to the other games time-wise. Could make a video on a 1 world interpretation by going the "X takes place after 1" route :)
@@LXGK Ah, so Xenoblade X being concurrent in your theory was intentional. I kept thinking 'wait, isn't X in the far future?' :D Whatever theory is 'the right one', I hope Xenoblade 3 sheds some light on it.
I REALLY love this theory. There's just one question; what caused the Samaarians to go from a hyper-advanced civilization to being normal 20th century humans? I don't think this is counter-evidence or anything, I just think we're missing a big piece of information. I especially love the connection of the telethia and the rift.
Thank you! Yeah, the Samaarian-Human issue there is just core to the game. With or without this theory :) We know that the Humans are descendants of Samaarians, and we see the form of the Samaarians in Xenoblade X and they're just Humans. What caused them to go from the rulers of a huge multiple-galaxy spanning empire back to primitive people on planet Earth is a mystery that's just part of the game. If we ever get an X2 we might find out more :)
@@daydreamer.nighthawk That could be possible, but the thing is the Ganglion and the Zaruboggans are already beings made by the Samaarians to serve them. The Ganglion even contain a failsafe where Human DNA is dangerous to them. I think because of that I find the Samaarians creating the Humans for a use less plausible :/ Personally anyway
Amazing theory! And I love the connection you pointed out with the tainted. I do wonder though, what about the other things on Mira we find in Xenoblade 1? Things such as the huge Mechonis ring in Oblivia, and the fake Nopon monado hint that there is a closer connection to XC1 that your theory purports.
Yeah, this theory sort of disregards certain connections to help explain others such as the origin of the Samaarians and Telethia. The theory that X takes place in the far future of XC1 is one that fits better with the Nopon and Oblivia ring, whereas this theory is mainly trying to make XCX run concurrently with XC1 and XC2. But might do a video on that other theory too sometime :)
@@LXGK It would be interesting if they were both true. We know that the time-traveller on Mira is stuck there, so there's reason to believe entities from many different time periods ended up there. Could they have all been brought by the same event, or multiple different ones? Just some interesting thoughts your video sparked in my mind.
@@noahthompson4925 Personally I strongly believe Takahashi will never fully implement any sort of real time travel into these stories. Knowing how complex they can get from his previous games, adding time travel would make it 10 times more difficult haha. That whole thing with Professor B in XCX should most definitely be left to just a fun sidequest I think.
"Alvis causes the conduit to fade away to unknown place " idk about you guys but I have strong feeling Alvis are way stronger then we thought and way stronger then malos and mythra/pyra
@@IchHassePasswoerter same with Alvis he made the conduit fade without any problem they all might be the same power but there a hight possibility that he is the strongest just bcz he is the only agies isn't fully explained so that leave a room for him that he might be the strongest yet remember Alvis is responsible on a whole universe above 2 gods witch means he is stronger then God Alvis done things the other agies couldn't do yet pnumea had the power given from the architect but Alvis had those abilities from the beginning so you understand my point ? And you said she had full direct control to the conduit until it's gone right who made it gone who had the power to make it gone its Alvis that's why both universes collapsed so you see why Alvis possess greater power then her ?
@@mohamedfr6456 My point of objection here is that it is entirely unknown if Alvis made the conduit disappear or if it did so itself. Also, Pneuma was stated to have the power to make imagination real. You can't exactly top that.
@@IchHassePasswoerter oh also forgot a big detail after the conduit is gone pneuma lost her power from the conduit after it's gone since she didn't originally had that power it was given from the architect but for Alvis when the coduite disappeared witch he made it to he disappeared with him he didn't lose the power from the coduit then that means Alvis directly connected to the conduits from the very beginning that's why he is far more stronger
@@IchHassePasswoerter conduit is far powerful then her and remember she was give that power for a short time then she lost it bcz the conduit is gone and Alvis didn't lose anything he is gone with the coduit that he made it disappear otherwise architect wouldn't be concerned about the party to hurry of it's only about him dying bcz the universe of 2 ruining with the coduit witch means the conduit gonna disappear and there is no one else did that and the moment coduite disappeared Alvis reset the whole universe of 2 and 1 bcz of shulk wish h disappearing at the same time as the conduit is a clear reason that he is directly connected to the coduit not just been given they power for a short time like her
Btw did anyone notice at the end of final boss fight in Xenoblade X that Tatsu called everyone Hom Homs? When Doug, or Glenn I think, asked him what a Hom Hom was Tatsu wasn't even sure himself. He said it like it was the only natural thing to call them.
Yeah, Tatsu also mentions Frontier Village before the Zu Pharg battle. And ofc there is the whole "Sword of Legendaryness" sidequest, which look like a Monado. There's a separate popular theory about how X takes place long in the future in Xenoblade 1's world. Might cover it some day :)
@@LXGK Oh cool. That sidequest plus Lin's Monado hairpins. I had also considered the idea of the name itself...Xenoblade Chronicles X or Xenoblade X. I think it could be a "X" factor in and of itself. For all I know The Conduit in this reality could be The X Factor.
@@zeraphphalanx2794 In Japan, the X isn't read as "X" but instead "cross". The name of the customisable MC is also named Cross. That might change how you might search for other links. Who knows :)
Yeah I knew that. I was thinking of other possibilities than that. We could also look at that "X" as a sort of crossroad between time and space. All of it is just very interesting it gets your brain tingling with ideas. xD
You know, that would totaly make sense. When you see him in game, he is pretty much a god. A god of writing. Like stan lee puts himself into spiderman.
i was watching it and saw spoiler after spoiler for xenoblade games i havent played but was so into it i kept watching but i had seen so many that i had to stop myself. im going to finish xenoblade chronicles 1 and xenoblade chronicles x then come back
Haven't got to Future Connected yet, but it always felt like the planet Mira was what became of the world of Xenoblade 1 after countless eons (this is hinted subtly through certain collectables bearing an uncanny resemblance to the Bionis, Mechonis & even an ether furnace, and also notably when Tatsu mentions Frontier Village by name during X's main story) Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your theory save for that Alvis ended up transporting Shulk & Co. into the universe of XCX - perhaps in a galaxy outside of the Saviourite-turned-Somarian Federation controlled space
Alvis just seems to be more bigger then a agies his disappearance with the conduit....its mayhem Alvis is the the great one mentioned in X maybe Alvis is the one who behind the conduit the fact that in original xc1 he had a key as if he maybe was something bigger then an agies
Might the telethia be seen as angels? Given Klaus's "ascension" as Zanza after utilising the Conduit (as Monoliths effectively served that same purpose in 2001 A Space Odyssey), as a new god his cells effectively could create his own angels, (backed up by their evolution into the more humanoid depiction of winged people). Telethia seem to largely serve the purpose of combating "gnosis", not strictly in the Xenosaga sense, but in the "knowledge" sense, the original sin (and the rejection of the divine). In Xenosaga, this manifests as the ghost-like entities (connection to X?) also named gnosis, but in the Xenoblade sense, this may simply be any being of sin. In XC1, Zanza denounces the lifeforms of the Bionis, effectively marking them as beings of sin, as they take light (ether) of god (Zanza) but actively work against him, and so the telethia carry out their mission of removing that which goes against god. In Futures Connected and XCX, the telethia are combating the fog and the tainted, which as you point out may well be connected (though we may have to wait until wave 4 of XC3 DLC to learn more), but both of these are in essence marking creatures of sin. Notably, the ovah, the virus within the orpheans of X, is also targeted by the telethia, but what this implies is difficult to say as we learn precious little about the true nature of the ovah. In a similar sense, however, it is a way for the orpheans to attain greater knowledge, so in this regard the ovah may be symbolic of the fruit of knowledge, a cheat and therefore a sin. The "fog" and the tainted may have some connection to the ghosts and to Saga's gnosis (which are likely one in the same), perhaps it is something as simple as "possession" by a ghost, but it's difficult to say.
man, why this thing only has -5000 vies?!?!!? I HAVE SEARCH FOR AGES TO FINT THIS VIDEO AGAIN, WHAT THE FUCK. UA-cam, ALGORTHM PLEASE, PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE. the only mystery is what is the fog king, since it cant be an aegis, maybe a third part of klaus? a being created from the conduit? maybe somthing from the xeno saga?
I like your theory, as far as my knowledge of the series goes it it really fits though i wouldn't call my knowledge of the series vast or anything close. Even if this theory doesn't pan out come xenoblade 3 i'll still always remember it because this is where I finally understand why the conduit buggers off in xenoblade 2. I thought it was due to some link it had with zanza so when he dies it fades away but no, it's because shulk literally tells it to get lost after killing zanza, like holy shit shulk wtf are you doing? Equally ridiculous is the damn thing complies, where would a god machine even go for holiday?
Haha. But it's just my educated guess. I think it just lines up quite well. Their godlike abilities are granted to them by the Conduit and a wish to remove Gods could possibly be interpreted as moving the Conduit away. If Alvis has any sort of ability to create a universe (or even simply transport to another) then I think he's fully capable of moving the Conduit elsewhere. I mention this in my Aoidos Archives video, also some details on how Klaus knew it'd happen. The video is just text though, I plan to make a new version with voice over! But yeah, interesting stuff :)
Strange I came to a different theory entirely. What if Xeno X comes before the original? They appear in Blade Headquarters, and Alma can be a Blade in xeno 2. Could it be possible when the Architect says that he recreated all that once existed he meant actual humans from his earth that he destroyed? Could all Blades be the humans from his world? A lot of the blades seem to also have American accents which in a game full of English VA's makes little sense....Xeno X takes place in New LA too
I'm curious how if this theory changes anything now that XC3 has been out for a little while now. At the beginning, you said that it doesn't matter if XC1 and 2 stayed split or reconnected, and 3 confirmed that they stayed separate, and with the whole game ending how it did, I don't see why this theory couldn't still work
Wow, X is really seen are the weakest story? I think it's the best and deepest one. The only issue is that the damn story isn't over and resolved it's driving me mad!!!!! X2 WHEN?!?!?
While it is a good theory it still neglects a lot of X's in game indications that Mira is simply the world Shulk created. Like the presence of float stone which was given a peculiar amount of focus in FC. That things such as the Nopon referencing the Monado, Bionis, Mechonis, and Homs. Takahashi has gone on stating that the games were made with the intent of being connected from the start so at the time since two wasn't even in conception he really did only have one universe to work with. Also I believe it's stated somewhere that there's multiple telethia on Mira and not just the one? If someone knows for sure please let me know but if that's the case then that's just more evidence towards Mira's Shulk related origins.
The main idea behind this theory is trying to place X as close to the other games time-wise, in the same way XC2 plays concurrently to XC1. Also trying to explain different particular aspects like the Conduit being behind the Samaarian's arrival from "another plane". But yes, to make this theory work it does disregard certain details like Tatsu's references to XC1 locations and stuff. This theory sort of treats them as just fun references. But it might be worth doing a video one day on the theory that X takes place after XC1. Because a long time gap I reckon is probably most likely; I suppose there's a reason it's "X" and not a numbered game. As for how many Telethia, I do remember seeing a second one but that only appared in the Global Nemesis Mission. In the main overworld, I believe there was only the Endbringer in Noctilum.
Idk but the things is the nopon how they are the only ones know about the Monado....and frontier village and Homs this is so weird...the fact that tatsu when said hom and they asked what is that he seemed he didn't know just came in mind and said it other then that in xc2 explain Lanza creating the titans and how life evolved to different animal and humans....but it didn't mentione the nopon same is xc1 we know Homs hight entia animals ans giants born from zanza and machina from mayneth yet her didn't get anything about them it's like they born from other God or something
EDIT: I just wanted to say, the part saying how XC1's ending *might* have been similar to XC2 before the changes, that is only my SPECULATION X) All we do know is that the ending was changed, but what it was originally we haven't got a clue! Didn't mean to make that sound as if it were fact, it's part of the theory :) Sorry
Thanks to Jack Erdynast for providing the voice-over for my video! Here is a link to his Twitch channel: www.twitch.tv/xalyte
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The only flaw with this theroy is the nopon on mira. They have knowledge of the monado due to the sword of legideryness, frontier vialliage and during the ending call humans hom hom
It coud be just a reference to xc
@@notthatthenamematters6163 i think something like lins hair clips being are a reference, maybe even the sword of legendary Ness. But the mention of hom hom and frontier village are way too important to be references
As others have already pointed out: The nopon knowledge is most likely just an easter egg.
Actually, all of XcX is more or less an easter egg itself. I always recommend new comers to the entire Xeno series to save XcX for last because of how it seems to be this "greatest hits collection" of each of the Xeno series.
Now if we take Origin into the picture, and if Mira is a byproduct of Origin being tossed away after XC3, then this makes quite sense that Nopon are seemingly native to Mira. Put this together with the fact that humans in X first discovered ether on Mira and it adds up.
I saw a theory once that X is an alternate timeline where Klaus never activates the Conduit
Well that's sort of true for this too. In the X timeline there is no Klaus. It's just that Klaus in the XC2 universe activates the Conduit, and some of the humans are transported to the X timeline and become the Samaarians.
This deserves WAY more views.
It is now my headcanon that Elma is a rival processor unit created by the Saviorites to access the conduit when they got their hands on it.
This was a solid theory! I really hope that future installments give us the pieces of the puzzle we need to finally understand the links between all the Xenoblade games.
Thank you! And I hope so too. Takahashi isn't one to shy away from a complex / complicated plot.
I'm just hoping episode 2,3 and 6 get a actual game I would enjoy seeing what episode 6 will be
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@@momol2l285 He is referring to the perfect works story for xenogears, where the game was supposed to be in a six episode game series xenogears would have been episode 5. However, xenogears didn’t do so well and the other episodes were scrapped. But other xeno games do carry out some elements of the episodes. Xenosaga and xenoblade x have elements of episode 1, and xenoblade 1 and 2 have elements of episode 4.
The thing is the creators don't even know what episode 6 is!
That Xenoblade X, Fog King, and gnosis connection is genius. I never noticed
Okay, that connection between the Tainted with the rift in Future Connected is really good. As well as the explanation of how a Telethia is on Mira.
A theory my friend and I threw around (before 2) was that Dr. Klaus was trying to prevent Luxor's invasion. Those who escaped set up Chronicles X. Then we started thinking what if the conduit was the Zohar, and Klaus was responsible for Lost Jerusalem? We wrote it off as silly, but now...
So I started the Xeno series with X, have played through all of 2 and am working my way through 1 Definitive Edition. I love these games dearly, but my understanding of the greater, overarching Xeno series besides Xenoblade is kinda limited to Wikipedia entries. I say all this to highlight a lot of the nuance and hidden references just go right over my head in this series and, while absolutely loving it, I think I struggle to get all out of it I can.
Setting up that context to say how grateful I am you seem to be pretty well informed on this complex topic and I’d love to hear more theories in the future. You’ve more than earned my subscribe.
Wow, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :) I was in the same place having only played Xenoblade, over the last year I've been playing through all the other Xeno games and I'm just on the last one now. I find all of it fascinating, so I love to make videos exploring these stories. I plan on redoing my previous theory and archives videos with voice overs and such to make them similar to this. Hopefully make them more enjoyable. Hope you'll continue to enjoy them! :)
I think XCX is simply the continuation/aftermath of the Perfect Works. XC1 is the imaginary plane, XC2 the real plane, XCX could take place in the Upper Domain (or at least Mira could exist there).
So your saying they are offshoot realms within Xenosaga. Also what's the great work
@@myboy732 Sorry, I keep writing Great when I mean Perfect. It's Perfect Works, or basically the core structure of all three Xeno storylines.
And I'm not just referring to Xenosaga, but Xenogears too.
I like this theory and for the most part its very similar to what I think is going to happen as well with a few differences in terms of the timeline and the events that occur. I believe that Mira IS the same world that shulk and alvis created. I also believe that Rex and the gang were transported to this new world at the end of XC2 and I believe theres gonna be another MC in XC3 who's gonna connect everything but thats all I'm gonna say cos I have my own vid coming out on this topic soon 😜 The only thing I lack knowledge on is Xenosaga and Xenogears which could give me a better idea how everything connects. Anyways good interesting video and was fun to watch
Yeah, I'm currently getting through the last game I need to play which is Xenogears. Once I've done that I'll be able to have a proper read of parts of the Perfect Works and maybe construct some better theories. Atm there is this theory, but the other most popular theory is that X takes place in Shulk's new world in the future which also works for various reasons. But yeah, I'm interested to hear your ideas on XC3 :)
@@LXGK I don't even know where to start with those games don't even know what game consoles there on 😂 also btw the discord link on your about is out of date
@@JBspherefreak It is? Oops. Here's a new invite. I'll have to update that one eventually. discord.gg/4DYbZ49M
Always felt to me like the missing component of the Vita was games!
But seriously I assumed where that was going is that the Vita was essentially an incomplete omnigear and the missing component was an anima relic or whatever they call those in the blade series lore.
I figured at best, the Telethia in X just has a different origin than Zanza, but addressing the theory at face value I'd say it's pretty good! I know X1 was originally made not in any relation to Gears or Saga - the original title was Monado, so while we have stronger Zohar allusions in X and 2, the fact that it wasn't originally in 1 kinda tosses me off any theory that may rely on being connected to Gears and Saga.
I don't know why you guys still go on about xenoblade 1 not meant to be a xeno game when alvis is the third aegis from xenoblade 2 and has a core crystal necklace shaped like the conduit/zohar just like the other aegis core crystals, or the fact both 1 and 2 are connected. heck if you bothered to look at kayjulers' xenoblade 3 rumors video this week you'd learn that the xenoblade games are trying to tell the same episodic story takahashi's been trying to tell for years since xenogears from the xenogears perfect works. it was always meant to be a xeno game, heck that claim you just made also means you didn't watch the whole video above because he talked about how takahashi took those zohar/conduit elements out of xenoblade 1 to not confuse new players but originally they were gonna be in the game, therefore xenoblade 1 was always a xeno game. quit being in denial.
@@infern24 So Alvis's necklace was a key in the original Xenoblade 1, and even if Xenoblade as a whole isn't connected to Xenogears or Xenosaga, I do agree that Xenoblade 1 is tied to Xenoblade 2 - theyre both Xenoblade after all. Now, looking at X1 as originally released, there's no Zohar-shaped object anywhere. True, there are hints and themes that are similar to his previous projects, but nothing even close to suggesting a connection. It just got the Xeno name as a nod to those titles. Now, could it have been retrofitted to now fit the whole Xeno mythos? Perhaps. I haven't seen KayJulers video on this subject mostly as it hadn't come out at the time of my post (or at least I wasn't aware of it), but yeah originally Xenoblade 1 wasn't conceived to be a part of Saga or Gears.
Can I just say, this whole video is just theory and speculation. It's indeed true that *something* about the ending was changed, but in reality we don't know what. It's just an educated guess on my part given Takahashi described it as "previous knowledge", suggesting there was something in the ending originally that players would recognise but was removed to not confuse newer players to Monolith's games.
Many people bring up the fact Xenoblade 1 wasn't meant to be one because it was originally a game called "Monado: Beginning of the World". Still obviously containing Gnostic references like his previous works [Monado = Monad], but it wasn't called Xeno.
It's both plausible that there wasn't a plan for it to be a Xeno game and plausible Takahashi had a whole idea planned beforehand.
Nevertheless, nothing to get heated about. Happy discussing :)
This is a very solid theory. Thanks for sharing!
Can‘t wait to come back to this in a month and revise what you got right, after experiencing XB3 for myself!
This is very well thought out!
This was an amazing theory!!
I really like this theory. And heck, at this point... the possibilities are truly endless for how Xenoblade may continue. I'd like to believe that Takahashi has already everything planned out for the next full Saga ^^
Fantastic video man! Unironically underrated :D
I feel like we are one or two games off from seeing how everything is connected
After future connected this makes so much sense
Something that is worth considering as well is when Shulk makes his wish for a world with no God's and he throws his Mondado into the Monado ring, it shows what almost seems like either the creation or unbarring of a universe. The scene shows the bionis existing within a closed shell with nothing outside of it, and then it bursts into a full universe. So the question to be asked is did they create a new universe, or did they simply uncage their realm and join it with the rest of the world. Then that whole event opened up the fog gates that happened in Future Connected. Which possibly also opened the link that allowed Shulk to go into Xenoblade 2 whether you find it canon or not it makes sense.
As well as for Elma, in the scene when she unveils her true form she comes out of a machine that looks awfully like the ones KOSMOS came out of in Xenosaga as well as the ones Shion had to go into to get into KOSMOS's subconscious, if I recall that correctly. So there's some possible connections between Elma and KOSMOS there as well. Lots of things in X being Zohar shaped, same with the Aegis symbols being
Otherwise great video I love theorizing about these games.
I think its something more simple. When world got split into xenoblade 1 and 2 you can see that those crosses also go in different directions. One of them ends in shulk dimension and other 2 are pyra and that other guy.
What happens probaly is that once shulk fixes its thing, the earth goes back into a space from no-space. So all stuff ends in xenoblade X universe.
@@Bullminator That's another direction I was thinking as well. They join the universe of the other games combining the timelines into one single universe where each is accessible to the other.
I really like how we get to hear your voice in this one. Keep up the good work! 🙂👍
Oh, no this is not my voice. I've been collabing with others to voice my videos, at the start of the video it says voice over by Jack Erdynast who helped out with this particular one 😅 But thank you! :)
@@LXGK Ah, shows what I know. 😅 Well either way it was a great video!
I don't know monolithsoft is planning, but if it's anything as lofty as the sort of finale this multiverse could have it will be absolutely INCREDIBLE
YOOO THIS IS FUCKING LIT
Well done, awesome theory
I do wonder where exactly the conduit came from, and how it's linked to Mira, if at all. Maybe Mira is in someway the birthplace of the conduit, and the planet birthed it? Idk lol
Thank you! Haha. As for where the Conduit came from, it's likely its origin will be similar to the Zohar in Xenosaga. Which is it was created at the birth of the universe during the big bang. One little hole I have in this theory is that Luxaar says the Samaarians came from another plane at the "dawn of the cosmos". Whereas my theory says they arrived 10,000 years ago (to fit with the other timelines). But if they were there at the beginning then they possibly already possessed the Conduit, and Mira is possibly the Samaarian's homeworld, and this is all sounding like I'll have to make another video haha. There's a lot of what ifs with this. It's all very interesting. But thanks again! :)
Fantastic video, though I don't fully agree with everything. One theory I have is that Mira is created by Alvis or is even Alvis himself. Alvis acts similarly to the wave existence and u-do in gears in saga, u-do specifically attempts to observe humanity so it would make sense for Alvis to create Mira to for this purpose.
This is possible. Though I suppose it would suggest that as a Trinity Processor he had more to him than the other two. Unless ofc this suggests that maybe he's not in fact Ontos and we've still yet to find out who that is. I think, were Alvis to have a greater connection to U-DO (or the "Divine Entity") then perhaps he'd be used as an observational terminal like Abel.
Thanks to this comment section, I've found a few people suggesting that the world of Xenoblade 1 may take place in the Imaginary Number Domain, and X too as it would take place in the future of Shulk's world (his world being Mira in the past which Alvis created?).
There's lots of X theories, I would like to cover more of them sometime :) Assuming the next game doesn't steal my thunder there lol
I have a minor addendum to your theory.
I noticed that you referenced Xenogears and Xenosaga, but didn't connect them.
But they *are* connectable, by the Zohar/Conduit.
All of the events involving Earth and the Zohar, leading up to the loss of Earth, in Xenosaga are pretty much exactly the same as those detailed as leading into the Klaus incident. I think that his tampering with the Conduit created all 5 timelines:
-Xenoblade - pocket dimension with his dark half, Galea/Meyneth, and Ontos/Alvis
-Xenoblade II - his good half, and the ruined remnants of Earth
-Xenoblade X - at least a portion of the remains of humanity, as you theorize
-Xenosaga - continues on from the Klaus incident, possibly with other survivors as in the X timeline
-Xenogears - splits off from Xenosaga III, because I believe Xenosaga Abel and Xenogears Abel are one and the same
Yeah, I mainly used Gears and Saga to show that Xenoblade might connect due to certain similarities. Plus I've yet to finish Gears so I don't feel I can add much on the subject. But I have finished Saga. And thinking just now. Xenosaga takes place 6000-7000 years after the Earth incident, whereas the Xenoblade games are set 10,000 years after. If Xenosaga happened in between.. and KOS-MOS's body landed back on Earth.. Klaus recreates her in Blade form.. hence why you can awaken her. Okay I need to rest my brain for a bit.
It explains a lot but how did the nopon know about Frontier village and the monado. Not to mention the mechonis rings in oblivia.
For this specific theory I'm writing those off as fun references. Similar to ignoring anything to do with the Nopon Archsage.
In my Nopon XenoTheory video I do talk about that actually, I plan on redoing that video with a voice over eventually so yeah :)
@@LXGK what if nopon are the one who created the conduit 😳 no one mentioned they created them in 1 2 X and they know too much compared to other people things only them KNOWS
I can only say
IT MAKES SENSE
Had to watch this asap ;o First of all: you could very well be right with this. It certainly fits. Where I disagree with is how you assume Klaus' conduit experiment created 3 separate spaces (original earth, Bionis/Mechonis, X). If we accept that, then it might also be possible that there's a 4th, 5th, 6th, n-th separate space, too. In other words: Yes, could be, but would it make the story more interesting?
I agree with the connection of Future Connected and X - those Telethia are no coincidence. However, I think 2 spaces are enough to explain the games' connection. That is if you incorporate Xenosaga's world design into Xenoblade:
- Xenoblade 2 represents the original space, our real world. It exists within the 'Real Numbers Domain' (RND)
- Xenoblade 1 represents a rather insane space, a world set on top of living titans? Ku-razy! ;o It exists within the 'Imaginary Numbers Domain' (IND)
- Xenoblade X exists within the IND, just a really long time after Xenoblade 1's events.
Now the big argument will be 'but Alvis created Xenoblade 1's universe, it can't be the IND!'. I disagree. I think Alvis is not quite as powerful as he made us believe to. Maybe he doesn't know better. Or maybe he is kind of a villain as others have theorized. But matter of fact is that the IND is a place where thoughts and imagination are powerful assets. That's why in Xenoblade X, the different species can understand each other: they *want* to understand each other and so it happens. Heck, Alvis' "creation of a new universe without gods" might even be what caused the rifts in Future Connected. It would line up nicely timewise. Maybe he caused such a ruckus within the IND that monsters like the fog king (aka Xenoblade's version of the gnosis) fled over to the RND. Who knows, maybe Alvis was all-powerful and *destroyed* the IND, making gnosislike monsters seek refuge in the RND where they absolutely don't belong. That could be super exciting for Xenoblade 3, because without the IND, the whole lower domain becomes unstable and *that* will take the Upper Domain-inhabitants' attention :D
Anyway, that's my 2 cent about it. I agree with a lot of your theory, I just don't accept the 3-way split you propose. We'll see ... soon, hopefully :D
I suppose one of the main aims of this theory is to try and construct a scenario in which the events of X somehow take place as concurrently as possible to the other games, similar to how Xenoblade 2 isn't a sequel but a "side"-quel as it takes place at the same time. Perhaps I should cover the theory of X taking place in XC1's future.
As for XC1 & X being the IND, I suppose after playing Saga I've not really imagined the IND as being any sort of observable realm. Only when things from the IND manifest in the RND as material entities do they take on any sort of form, was what I gathered from it. Although it does try to clean up one thing that's been bothering me about Xenoblade. With Saga you just had the Lower Domain with our universe in the RND and the IND, and then the Upper Domain. It becomes very convoluted with Xenoblade if you consider these games being in different "universes". Would they each have their own RND and INDs? Or would they share the same ones? Assuming these concepts return properly in a 3rd game ofc, with many thinking the Fog King is a proper return of the idea of the Gnosis.
So imagining XC1 in the IND does make a lot of sense, and it prevents the irritating idea that there could be possibly infinite universes with at least one thing from the original Earth in them.
But yeah, the 3 world and 2 world interpretation are prioritising the idea of X taking place as close as possible to the other games time-wise. Could make a video on a 1 world interpretation by going the "X takes place after 1" route :)
@@LXGK Ah, so Xenoblade X being concurrent in your theory was intentional. I kept thinking 'wait, isn't X in the far future?' :D
Whatever theory is 'the right one', I hope Xenoblade 3 sheds some light on it.
good to see this project uploaded along with a provided voice over.
Hmm, not bad. I may need to revise my theory (and also play Xenoblade X) to account for this!
Now then…
CONNECT XENOSAGA TO CHRONICLES! Lmao
I REALLY love this theory. There's just one question; what caused the Samaarians to go from a hyper-advanced civilization to being normal 20th century humans? I don't think this is counter-evidence or anything, I just think we're missing a big piece of information. I especially love the connection of the telethia and the rift.
Thank you! Yeah, the Samaarian-Human issue there is just core to the game. With or without this theory :) We know that the Humans are descendants of Samaarians, and we see the form of the Samaarians in Xenoblade X and they're just Humans. What caused them to go from the rulers of a huge multiple-galaxy spanning empire back to primitive people on planet Earth is a mystery that's just part of the game. If we ever get an X2 we might find out more :)
Its more like Samaarians created the "lesser beings humans" in their own image for some use.. the Samaarians being the Earth humans' Gods
@@daydreamer.nighthawk That could be possible, but the thing is the Ganglion and the Zaruboggans are already beings made by the Samaarians to serve them. The Ganglion even contain a failsafe where Human DNA is dangerous to them. I think because of that I find the Samaarians creating the Humans for a use less plausible :/ Personally anyway
always love seeing lore/theory videos about this series
maybe it's cyclical... _the distant past and the far-flung future are one and the same_
Damit this is mind blowing !
Amazing theory! And I love the connection you pointed out with the tainted. I do wonder though, what about the other things on Mira we find in Xenoblade 1? Things such as the huge Mechonis ring in Oblivia, and the fake Nopon monado hint that there is a closer connection to XC1 that your theory purports.
Yeah, this theory sort of disregards certain connections to help explain others such as the origin of the Samaarians and Telethia. The theory that X takes place in the far future of XC1 is one that fits better with the Nopon and Oblivia ring, whereas this theory is mainly trying to make XCX run concurrently with XC1 and XC2. But might do a video on that other theory too sometime :)
@@LXGK It would be interesting if they were both true. We know that the time-traveller on Mira is stuck there, so there's reason to believe entities from many different time periods ended up there. Could they have all been brought by the same event, or multiple different ones? Just some interesting thoughts your video sparked in my mind.
@@noahthompson4925 Personally I strongly believe Takahashi will never fully implement any sort of real time travel into these stories. Knowing how complex they can get from his previous games, adding time travel would make it 10 times more difficult haha. That whole thing with Professor B in XCX should most definitely be left to just a fun sidequest I think.
"Alvis causes the conduit to fade away to unknown place " idk about you guys but I have strong feeling Alvis are way stronger then we thought and way stronger then malos and mythra/pyra
Maybe within his own universe, but outside, I'd say it's Pneuma. SHe was *direct* access to the conduit until it decides to naff off on its own.
@@IchHassePasswoerter same with Alvis he made the conduit fade without any problem they all might be the same power but there a hight possibility that he is the strongest just bcz he is the only agies isn't fully explained so that leave a room for him that he might be the strongest yet remember Alvis is responsible on a whole universe above 2 gods witch means he is stronger then God Alvis done things the other agies couldn't do yet pnumea had the power given from the architect but Alvis had those abilities from the beginning so you understand my point ? And you said she had full direct control to the conduit until it's gone right who made it gone who had the power to make it gone its Alvis that's why both universes collapsed so you see why Alvis possess greater power then her ?
@@mohamedfr6456 My point of objection here is that it is entirely unknown if Alvis made the conduit disappear or if it did so itself. Also, Pneuma was stated to have the power to make imagination real. You can't exactly top that.
@@IchHassePasswoerter oh also forgot a big detail after the conduit is gone pneuma lost her power from the conduit after it's gone since she didn't originally had that power it was given from the architect but for Alvis when the coduite disappeared witch he made it to he disappeared with him he didn't lose the power from the coduit then that means Alvis directly connected to the conduits from the very beginning that's why he is far more stronger
@@IchHassePasswoerter conduit is far powerful then her and remember she was give that power for a short time then she lost it bcz the conduit is gone and Alvis didn't lose anything he is gone with the coduit that he made it disappear otherwise architect wouldn't be concerned about the party to hurry of it's only about him dying bcz the universe of 2 ruining with the coduit witch means the conduit gonna disappear and there is no one else did that and the moment coduite disappeared Alvis reset the whole universe of 2 and 1 bcz of shulk wish h disappearing at the same time as the conduit is a clear reason that he is directly connected to the coduit not just been given they power for a short time like her
Btw did anyone notice at the end of final boss fight in Xenoblade X that Tatsu called everyone Hom Homs?
When Doug, or Glenn I think, asked him what a Hom Hom was Tatsu wasn't even sure himself. He said it like it was the only natural thing to call them.
Yeah, Tatsu also mentions Frontier Village before the Zu Pharg battle. And ofc there is the whole "Sword of Legendaryness" sidequest, which look like a Monado.
There's a separate popular theory about how X takes place long in the future in Xenoblade 1's world. Might cover it some day :)
@@LXGK Oh cool. That sidequest plus Lin's Monado hairpins. I had also considered the idea of the name itself...Xenoblade Chronicles X or Xenoblade X. I think it could be a "X" factor in and of itself.
For all I know The Conduit in this reality could be The X Factor.
@@zeraphphalanx2794 In Japan, the X isn't read as "X" but instead "cross". The name of the customisable MC is also named Cross. That might change how you might search for other links. Who knows :)
Yeah I knew that. I was thinking of other possibilities than that. We could also look at that "X" as a sort of crossroad between time and space. All of it is just very interesting it gets your brain tingling with ideas. xD
Pretty sure all the games is just Nopon Archsage fanfiction. Jokesadide, this was a very solid theory.
You know, that would totaly make sense. When you see him in game, he is pretty much a god. A god of writing. Like stan lee puts himself into spiderman.
9:36 HOLY FUCKING SHIT you are right!
Xeno 1 & 2 ending is the born of Mira.
Now that Xenoblade 3 is announced, we know that the 3 worlds interpretation is incorrect, so most likely the 2 worlds interpretation is correct
Good video, could see some of this turning out to be true, I hope the recent Xenoblade 3 rumors are true and we’ll get a trailer maybe even this year
Very nice
And all of this connected by one thing
The great archsage nopon
i was watching it and saw spoiler after spoiler for xenoblade games i havent played but was so into it i kept watching but i had seen so many that i had to stop myself. im going to finish xenoblade chronicles 1 and xenoblade chronicles x then come back
Haven't got to Future Connected yet, but it always felt like the planet Mira was what became of the world of Xenoblade 1 after countless eons (this is hinted subtly through certain collectables bearing an uncanny resemblance to the Bionis, Mechonis & even an ether furnace, and also notably when Tatsu mentions Frontier Village by name during X's main story)
Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your theory save for that Alvis ended up transporting Shulk & Co. into the universe of XCX - perhaps in a galaxy outside of the Saviourite-turned-Somarian Federation controlled space
well now we can see the ghosts are def ouraboras, they wouldnt focus so much on those glowing cores in FR otherwise.
Alvis just seems to be more bigger then a agies his disappearance with the conduit....its mayhem Alvis is the the great one mentioned in X maybe Alvis is the one who behind the conduit the fact that in original xc1 he had a key as if he maybe was something bigger then an agies
Its been 6 years since X came out and im beginning to lose hope that we'll ever see the mysteries of the game resolved
X is the real OG timeline
What if Xenoblade X is the actual main Xeno timeline? 👀
Explain
Yea good story i know what it means
Might the telethia be seen as angels? Given Klaus's "ascension" as Zanza after utilising the Conduit (as Monoliths effectively served that same purpose in 2001 A Space Odyssey), as a new god his cells effectively could create his own angels, (backed up by their evolution into the more humanoid depiction of winged people). Telethia seem to largely serve the purpose of combating "gnosis", not strictly in the Xenosaga sense, but in the "knowledge" sense, the original sin (and the rejection of the divine). In Xenosaga, this manifests as the ghost-like entities (connection to X?) also named gnosis, but in the Xenoblade sense, this may simply be any being of sin. In XC1, Zanza denounces the lifeforms of the Bionis, effectively marking them as beings of sin, as they take light (ether) of god (Zanza) but actively work against him, and so the telethia carry out their mission of removing that which goes against god. In Futures Connected and XCX, the telethia are combating the fog and the tainted, which as you point out may well be connected (though we may have to wait until wave 4 of XC3 DLC to learn more), but both of these are in essence marking creatures of sin. Notably, the ovah, the virus within the orpheans of X, is also targeted by the telethia, but what this implies is difficult to say as we learn precious little about the true nature of the ovah. In a similar sense, however, it is a way for the orpheans to attain greater knowledge, so in this regard the ovah may be symbolic of the fruit of knowledge, a cheat and therefore a sin. The "fog" and the tainted may have some connection to the ghosts and to Saga's gnosis (which are likely one in the same), perhaps it is something as simple as "possession" by a ghost, but it's difficult to say.
man, why this thing only has -5000 vies?!?!!? I HAVE SEARCH FOR AGES TO FINT THIS VIDEO AGAIN, WHAT THE FUCK.
UA-cam, ALGORTHM PLEASE, PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
the only mystery is what is the fog king, since it cant be an aegis, maybe a third part of klaus? a being created from the conduit? maybe somthing from the xeno saga?
gnosis, maybe?
Interesting
I like your theory, as far as my knowledge of the series goes it it really fits though i wouldn't call my knowledge of the series vast or anything close. Even if this theory doesn't pan out come xenoblade 3 i'll still always remember it because this is where I finally understand why the conduit buggers off in xenoblade 2. I thought it was due to some link it had with zanza so when he dies it fades away but no, it's because shulk literally tells it to get lost after killing zanza, like holy shit shulk wtf are you doing? Equally ridiculous is the damn thing complies, where would a god machine even go for holiday?
Haha. But it's just my educated guess. I think it just lines up quite well. Their godlike abilities are granted to them by the Conduit and a wish to remove Gods could possibly be interpreted as moving the Conduit away. If Alvis has any sort of ability to create a universe (or even simply transport to another) then I think he's fully capable of moving the Conduit elsewhere. I mention this in my Aoidos Archives video, also some details on how Klaus knew it'd happen. The video is just text though, I plan to make a new version with voice over!
But yeah, interesting stuff :)
And maybe the lifehold core computer, is like a zohar emulator ?
the aegis core crystals are like zohar emulator, too
Strange I came to a different theory entirely. What if Xeno X comes before the original? They appear in Blade Headquarters, and Alma can be a Blade in xeno 2. Could it be possible when the Architect says that he recreated all that once existed he meant actual humans from his earth that he destroyed? Could all Blades be the humans from his world? A lot of the blades seem to also have American accents which in a game full of English VA's makes little sense....Xeno X takes place in New LA too
I'm curious how if this theory changes anything now that XC3 has been out for a little while now. At the beginning, you said that it doesn't matter if XC1 and 2 stayed split or reconnected, and 3 confirmed that they stayed separate, and with the whole game ending how it did, I don't see why this theory couldn't still work
What keep me thinking it's the similarities between the City of New LA and the ruin City on Xenoblade Chronicles 2 they looks like new LA ruins 🤔
Wow, X is really seen are the weakest story? I think it's the best and deepest one. The only issue is that the damn story isn't over and resolved it's driving me mad!!!!! X2 WHEN?!?!?
Do you have a source for that interview, sounds p interesting
Hopefully this is the one you mean :D
iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/wiiu/xenoblade-chronicles-x/0/1/
While it is a good theory it still neglects a lot of X's in game indications that Mira is simply the world Shulk created. Like the presence of float stone which was given a peculiar amount of focus in FC. That things such as the Nopon referencing the Monado, Bionis, Mechonis, and Homs. Takahashi has gone on stating that the games were made with the intent of being connected from the start so at the time since two wasn't even in conception he really did only have one universe to work with. Also I believe it's stated somewhere that there's multiple telethia on Mira and not just the one? If someone knows for sure please let me know but if that's the case then that's just more evidence towards Mira's Shulk related origins.
The main idea behind this theory is trying to place X as close to the other games time-wise, in the same way XC2 plays concurrently to XC1. Also trying to explain different particular aspects like the Conduit being behind the Samaarian's arrival from "another plane". But yes, to make this theory work it does disregard certain details like Tatsu's references to XC1 locations and stuff. This theory sort of treats them as just fun references.
But it might be worth doing a video one day on the theory that X takes place after XC1. Because a long time gap I reckon is probably most likely; I suppose there's a reason it's "X" and not a numbered game.
As for how many Telethia, I do remember seeing a second one but that only appared in the Global Nemesis Mission. In the main overworld, I believe there was only the Endbringer in Noctilum.
Idk but the things is the nopon how they are the only ones know about the Monado....and frontier village and Homs this is so weird...the fact that tatsu when said hom and they asked what is that he seemed he didn't know just came in mind and said it other then that in xc2 explain Lanza creating the titans and how life evolved to different animal and humans....but it didn't mentione the nopon same is xc1 we know Homs hight entia animals ans giants born from zanza and machina from mayneth yet her didn't get anything about them it's like they born from other God or something
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Xenoblade x's link is pretty obvious,
It has nopon
What does LXGK stand for?
Idk but isn't in X there is a sea thay have a conduit look like ?
Yeah, all of the lifehold cores in Xenoblade X are shaped like Zohars :)
@@LXGK what a conuinsidance I'm sure it have no other meaning😂 imo I think X is the most xenoblade game that have involved mystery