Steep slope mowing with modified John Deere 4wd Ride-on mowers
Вставка
- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- A quick look a some steep mowing of Spring grass. This section had been too wet to mow all winter, so now the grass is pretty heavy going, and the ground still a bit soft. Just another day at the office!
www.blockbusters.co.nz
What an intense plot twist to find out that the cameraman was also on a riding mower.....unreal.
i dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know of a tool to get back into an instagram account..?
I was dumb lost my account password. I love any tricks you can offer me.
U ruined it for me
Yeah, the caption says "mowers", but I just assumed it was a classic UA-cam typo
That is great use of 4 wheels to adapt the mower. My property is mostly that steep, about 2 acres and all I did was change my mowers rear tires to atv tires, not tractor style, just gripper style. I have three mowers that way, for at least 10 years. I support anyone to try more better!
We have to do a lot of transverse mowing on some clients' properties, so the duals add a lot of side ways stability.
How do the atv tires work over bar tires?
I think that that is an awesome idea the mower has the power just needs the stability so I think the duals are a great idea
Absolutely. The duals make this mower an incredible workhorse.
wow this is John Deere Power! I only now 5 words to descripe this video...NOTHING RUNS LIKE A DEERE
Cool video, love seeing mowers working on slopes. Always an element of danger.
Thanks! I enjoy going to "the office"!
Found a smaller deck works better in tall stuff. What bogged a 72” diesel exmark wasnt hard for a 54” diesel kubota.
yup - but smaller deck doesn't help when doing lots of large areas - so everything is a trade-off really. When this video was taken, these 2 units mowed 25-30 acres a week between them. The decks in this video are 60" (3 spindles).
Wait till I down load my back yard. West Virginia boy here. Don’t know what this guy is doing but my back yard I’d over 40 degrees vertical. 😋😋😋
Good onya mate! (Much of the slope in this clip is 30 - 35deg with one spot at 40 deg.
I’m in wv too. Feels like my only option is Steiner or Ventrac and I don’t got that kinda $$$!
Those X758's just ate that grass up for lunch. That sure is a steep hill. I probably wouldn't trust any other machine to mow that hill besides a 4x4 Deere X700 series or an X5x5 series.
MichaelTJD60
I think my old John Deere stx38 with the lug tires I put on it probably could’ve done it, however I’m sure I wouldn’t have wanted to go down it! Open diff, and pretty well non-existing brakes. It is a gear drive, so I could probably put it in low, but it would probably slide.
@@deereman8237 stx38 is a toy. i had one at one time. lightweight cheap lawn tractor
@@TractorHoarders relax Hans - were all friends here. Make CALM your superpower and life gets a lot less stressful, I promise you.
@@emrythompson Ventracs are built for that kind of terrain. I'm talking strictly garden tractors.
So many keyboard warriors on here. They are a 25Hp diesel engine. They can take all the hard work you throw at them. Just keep your regular service interval up and these tractors will take hard work like that for several thousand hours
I never said JohnDeere couldn't take a beating,,,,, wake up ,,,,,thats for finish mowing. That is high enough for a different style of mowing. Brush hog ect... 3-point ect... you must be no different than others when it comes to the purpose of lawn and garden tractors.
@Ray Eyth I've seen all of your comments on this post. They aren't typically designed to cut grass a foot high ill agree. But not everyone is going to fork out for a tractor/slasher combo to do the odd overgrown clean up job.
@@mitchmckeiver1429 This section is too small for our larger tractors anyway. I'm really not sure what has caused all this drama!
@@rayeyth2550 Not trying to impress you Ray - and not sure why you have taken such a dislike to my video - just don't watch it mate - its not there to upset you!
Over 3000 hours and counting
Gday from Australia🇦🇺. Nice rig mate! 👍I subbed and look forward to more Mowing vids. Cheers. 👍
Good onya mate! Thanks!
Raise up your plastic guard throw that stuff as far as you can it looks bad!
Had lawn business 10 years--i wanted all my customers homes to look as good as possible--sometimes i would mow certain sections 2x--but thats just me.
Thanks for your comment, Darrell, although there's several implied criticisms in there(!). You'll note that both mowers have bungees fitted to the throw guard for precisely that reason. And also, yes, I want my customers' homes to look as good as possible, too. You may note in my description that this was the first mow after a long winter break, and you may also note that the discharge is nice and even even with the guards down. BTW - been doing this for 2 decades now, and have a lot of very happy customers, so must be dong something right! Cheers!
Wow that's crazy. If you did that with something like an x300 or x500 I think it would just slip all the way to the bottom!
You bet. These machines are full-time 4WD, and the duals help too.
what series of john deere is that ?
randy ward It's the x700 series, some of them like the ones in this video have AWD
Diff lock is our friend!
x758 is the one you are watching mow, and video is shot from an x748. Arguably the x758 is slightly more powerful, but is a lot more thirsty - 20% higher fuel consumption - weirdly as it has the same engine, but JD claims an extra 1 hp. Unfortunately x758 has lots more plastic in the headstock - which breaks after about 900 hours. Both these machines had done more than 1800 hrs at time of video. The yellow 60" deck is way less hardy than the older green 60" decks - the mounting system wears away and needs rebuilding with welding about every 600 hours.
Huh, I didn't know it was possible to put dual rear wheels on mowers. I might do that. I wonder if you can put dual wheels in the front as well.🤔
In my experience there's no real benefit for the extra cost - and you scuff way more in tight turns. These duals allow this mower to traverse 35deg sideways without drama. Have a look at ua-cam.com/video/nykxDFnqtFE/v-deo.html Same mower on side slopes from operator's POV.
You have to remove the rear anti-scalp wheels from the deck for this model (grind them off) - but the duals compensate fine.
Mow on the way down turn the blades off and go up the part thats already mowed.
Why? If you're charging clients on time - that's wasting time and clients would rightly feel they're being overcharged. If it's a fixed price job, you're wasting your own time.
I'm not sure why you're running duals for going up and down that hill, I could see going around it. Here in eastern ky there's a lot of modified mowers like my mower and my neighbors have a deere with the front axles widened and the rear wheels cut and widened with 23-14x12" atv tires
We do a LOT of transverse mowing, too - hence the duals. This is just one client's property.
I like your dual tire setup and what your machine can do! Did you initially have any interference issues with the dual rear tires interfering with your mower deck or deck wheels?
Bryan Grim Thanks Brian. We had to remove the rear wheels and mounts from the deck to accomodate the duals - have a look at 1:14 - but we never had any issues with no rear deck wheels. Seems the extra stability (from the duals) helped against scalping anyway.
Nice! Not very powerful and trying to die just climbing the hill but nice.
As explained in the description - it's a very heavy mow and quite steep. It does very well -given the task being set for it.
My X570 without any extra modifications other than HDAP tires, can take on hills like this without breaking a sweat.
Excellent! - X570 is a great domestic tractor, (1/4 of the price of a X758 here in NZ) - you'd be in trouble going back downhill in the wet, though. 2WD is a bit too exciting for that for my liking.
Ida done that with my craftsman
That's just bad azz. ..
From Mr Thomas James Schmutter this Was a good video making the mower cut the lawn and the hill on the 4th cut setting of course these have good power and you know why and how because John Deere Make best and outdoor equipment for all Australians in Green Yellow and gold I recon and think.
Okaaaay?
Thank you for sharing this! I know from experience that the grade looks to be 50 to 60% Looks like a JD 700 series. Is double rear wheel offered by JD or something that was customized? I can see that it’s wet and no sliding and you even put weight on the front to keep the blades level during the climb.
Hi Cristof - you are correct - the mower shown is an x758, and the camera operator is on an x748 - see my notes much earlier re the duals - they are "Clic" brand and are after-market. John Deere don't supply them, (although our JD dealers will supply and fit them). Thanks for your kind words!
It would probably do that stock knowing that mower I have one and I’ve mowed some pretty steep hills with it
Absolutely! The 748 is a great mower. We have the duals fitted as we have several clients whose lawn dictates lateral mowing at 20 - to 35 degrees - so they just stay on to minimise side scalping, (rear anti-scalp deck wheels have to be removed to fit the duals). Have a look at ua-cam.com/video/nykxDFnqtFE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BlockBustersCoNZ - it's the same machine as this one.
@@BlockBustersCoNZ ok will do
That is steep
I reckon. The worst bit is 40 deg. Really appreciate diff lock - both up and down.
Great video! Are you able to cut to a low, nicely finished cut without the anti scalp wheels on the rear? Have a Deere 1025r subcompact tractor I’ve thought about modifying exactly like this with my 60” deck and adding duels for slope stability. Just nervous about taking the step of cutting off rear wheels and mounts. Still want a clean, even cut.
Thanks! Haven’t had problem with scalping but the duals have to stay on to really ensure this. No problem on the flat.
Thank you.
Badass
Did you make that dual back wheel setup by yourself? Looks very nice!
Hi ToxRozzx. Thanks for your comment, apologies, too, for slow responding. Please refer to my reply to Olivier (above) for the info you seek. Cheers!
I still think there is a conversion kit which allows for the fitment of dual wheels.
But you still have to remove the rear anti scalp wheels for the deck. Duals are after market - John Deere don’t offer a kit here in New Zealand.
What grade was that hill man that mower handeled it well and what model is it and is that in Virginia or West Virginia and that mower was chewing throw it I am a John Deere person my self
Not USA at all - its Drury, in Auckland, New Zealand. Gradient at steepest part is a shade under 40 degrees, (I measured at 38deg at 1:34). Sufficient to be impossible to walk up without leaning forward and grasping grass with your hands. Model is JD X758 2015. The camera operator is on an older x748. - 24hp Diesel 4wd with 60inch decks.
BlockBustersCoNZ man them mowers where impressive and being diesel and like the dulls on the back
bit different, used to my 10 ft slasher
haha - a bit tough around the nut trees though.
Badass!
cheers!
I have 2 JD tractors, I love them, and I know they are powerful, but I never overwork them like that, it can't be good for the engine.
Up to 3000 hrs now. Not bad for 1.5 litre diesel. Always run at full throttle (after warm up of course).
Great video guys. Knowing how much video flattens out a slope that 's got to be an interesting hill to mow!
Given your experience with duals I was wondering if I could ask a quick question.
I've got an X748 and am considering purchasing a clic dual wheel kit. At the moment I've got wheel weights on the rear wheels.
Are there any instances where the performance of the duals isn't as good as weighted single rears? Also what tyres are you running on the duals?
Hi Olivier - apologies to be so slow responding. Duals outperform weights with lawn work as you don't want to dig down for traction on your client's lawn, of course. we use an agricultural type cleat tread tyre on the dual which is a great compromise. It runs at half the inflation of the inner tyre helping to minimise scuff on tight turns. We have used this setup for 14 years plus, and I learned it from other operators who had been going for several years before that - its still our "go to" for the smaller lawn tractors that work serious slopes. And yes, those are "Clic" duals. But ensure you regularly remove them, (about 2 weekly of using daily), to lubricate the locking mechanism - a 5 minute job that saves hours of work later. Run the inner tyres at 16psi, and the outers at 8psi. We work slopes up to 40 degrees, (transverse), with this setup - in the right traction conditions - but I am not recommending you do that. Have a look at my video at (ua-cam.com/video/nykxDFnqtFE/v-deo.html) This shows the same tractor working 25 - 40 degrees sideways - and you can see how much it "crabs" especially after 3:45. You are welcome to email for more info if you wish - see our contact page at www.blockbusters.co.nz. Safe mowing!
I apologize, I'm a big JohnDeere enthusiast as is my entire family. After watching petes green machine and watching him go to the orange started a bad day for me. Now he's kubota monster, he's nothing but a loaded wannabee. So, my apologies to you!
After only just finding all the angst and comments going back and forth, Ray - I think you are taking all this waaaaaay too seriously my friend.
People in Elmira NY mow their grass every 3 days. They believe if they wait 7 to 9 days between mowings their grass will be butt high. Grass won't be butt high in 7to 9 days that is total exaggeration sincerely Robert Gildea
Our most frequent clients are 7 day cycle in the flush growth seasons - most are 2 - 4 weekly though. 3 daily mowing means you either pay someone to do it for you, or you are escaping something else (!).
What are the dual wheels wheel size
Nice man
Thanks!
Big difference between 4wd and dual wheels.
Really noticeable in the wet with soft ground - but especially good for the side mowing of slopes. These tractors operate really well without the duals, but they sure stay on for any transverse slope mowing.
These mowers are full time 4wd with duals. 1 is an x748 and the other is x758, (camera operator's machine). In my opinion, the x748 is superior, and the earlier model x748 with mechanical front drive (can shift from 4wd to 2wd) even better than the hydraulic full time 4wd.
Good way to burn up a hydraulic system
Hasn't happened yet! Been more than 3000 hours!
As long as they don’t overheat, they won’t get damaged.
need som goats!
Yes, make sure it has a good fence then get a few goats. Then only occasionally will it need to be mowed to keep it looking nice. Don’t want to keep goats through the winter? Then sell them in the fall after their fattened up and buy some more next spring - repeat. Make sure the goats have a source of water that’s dependable. Also this would be good animal husbandry for some youth in your household.
@@richbusche4321 This property has many Macadamia nut trees - goats would love them - but Client wouldn't be happy!
My zero turn I have to put weights on the front
Explorer 24 I didn’t know u could put weights on a zero turn and learn something everyday
You’re brave if you take a zero turn on a slope like that!
BlockBustersCoNZ yeah for real I would never take a zero turn on a slope like that be afraid it would flip over and would rather use a mower like y’all’s
Cool stuff, I do very similar work to you in Australia. I am considering wheel spacers for my X595. To all the negative commentators HAHAHAHAHA in you face. The gear must work fast. Not so I give my customers value for money but so i don't go insane pussy footing around. I usually work on an hourly rate and I am always trying to find ways to be faster. My customers love it. Who enjoys spending hours doing very little? Warranty? that blows by in no time commercially so what's really important is can I get spares right now?
Take my money!
Very impressive! How did you modify them to take the extra wheels? Also, is there anything else non-stock on these?
The dual wheels are "Clic" brand purchased here in New Zealand, and they are supplied with custom mounting plate and bolts. The wheels have extended inner hubs. The initial fit up takes about 30 minutes as the inner wheel is removed and reinstalled with the mounting plate. After that, it is simple to remove/install the wheels - simply drive onto a 2" board, unlock and rotate 1/8 turn to remove the wheels (in about 20 seconds). BTW, I don't work for, nor am rewarded in any way by "Clic" - we just use their duals. I guess you are in UK? I've found these guys atvcity.co.uk with a search on "clic wheels uk". Be aware - they are expensive - we pay more than $2000 NZD per set.
Have a look at my video ua-cam.com/video/nykxDFnqtFE/v-deo.html for how these duals allow us to mow up to 45deg on the side. The camera is mounted on the same machine as is in this video.
No other mods that enhance the machines. They will climb this well with good footing even without the duals. Tyre pressure is important - run the front wheels at 15psi and all 4 rear wheels at 8psi. If very soft ground conditions, increase inner rear wheel to 16psi and maintain 8psi in outer dual - better traction - I'll give you that for free - go safe!
Duals huh
hard on that poor engine....straining ....grunting ...
Regular gas not good enough .... high octane fuel
And less donuts 🍩 ....
They're diesel
I think the engine doesn't care, it's the hydrostatic transmission that does
Its done over 3000 hours now - still going strong. And it's diesel, as Ethan rightly observed.
0:42 to 0:45 what happened there. (Bogging the mower I guess)
Sure made it grunt! It's the start of the incline, and a heavier patch of growth.
Stopping and backing ...up the hill very hard on equipment or stopping and starting on a hill ....
High incline ....ur mower will be junk in no time ...
@@chevman46 that machine has done more than 2500 hours. They are commercial machines and can take the hard work.
Hello! What additional wheel did you install?
“Clic” is the brand. Best small duals I’ve ever encountered. Literally less than 60 seconds on or off.
Do you have a link to your dual kit?
@@gem1n12 yes
What website?
what size are the rear duals?
"Clic" brand - lots of detail in (way) earlier comments if you're interested. Rear anti-scalp wheels have to be removed from the deck for them to fit.
All they need is a goat or a cow.
Problem solved.
Goats and cows don't eat gorse that size - new growth only, and sparsely at that.
Goats and cows destroy everything
Sorry, I thought the Goat or Cow comment was on another video, hence the gorse comment. Why would you have a goat or cow on a lawn? (and we're using Deere's anyway - Dad joke there).
And someone to take care of them.
Problem solved huh? Lol don’t comment on things you know nothing about
Why not just get a Goat instead of a Deere
haha - hard to transport a goat to clients' properties I guess!
took me a while - I get the (Dad) joke there!
That's not an ideal yard to say the least.
Looks much better during the dry season, for sure!
Dude you butchered that grass!!
Thanks!
A modified riding mower thst viods all warranties. Im in the edge of my seat waiting for someone to get hurt.
It’s so revealing when a person mentions a warranty when seeing something like this.
No warranty after 750 hours - this one has done more than 3000 hours - and its a commercial machine
Cometh to my homestead and ill show you many wonderful johndeere tractors, and my 80 year old ones are in better condition than your used and abused lean machine!
I'm not a collector Ray, I'm a contractor and my tractors are my tools - and they get cleaned once a week, and they work hard. And my staff and I make a very comfortable living from it too.
We get it everything you have is better and you know more than everyone else
Most of my yard is 30 degrees so i built what I needed to get the job done