Thanks for letting us know about this piece of spec Mr Chris. Brightness and color reproduction has been a slight issue but thankfully it seems really good here.
Any suggestions on a stand8ng scrren for outdoors.. do i need the yardmaster for that black paf behind it or any of thise 50 dollar 120" amazon screens be suffice
I would love to see a video directly comparing the L500 to the JMGO N1 (mini). The N1 (mini): 1: is virtual silent 2: has much quicker & smoother keystone correction 3: is possibly (different Lumen certification) much brighter than the L500 with its 800 CVIA Lumens 4: Google TV built-in 5: custom individual input memory 6: very convenient gimbal system 7: comes with a nice case 8: is frequently on sale on Amazon, priced around $800, & has gone as low as $750 To be honest, I am a Kickstarter backer & current owner of JMGO'S newest edition in the N1 series, the 4K N1-ULTRA. I love my N1-U, but it is a little on the large side & a bit beefy in weight. When I saw the L500, I saw intrigued, but even when I had the chance to jump on the super early bird price of only $650 on Kickstarter (a very good price), I saw that the comparatively better N-1 (mini) is currently on sale for $810. In my opinion, the extra $160 for the N-1 is well worth it.
The performance of the two seem similar with the edge to the N1, one thing to consider is that the N1 is also twice the weight and quite a bit larger overall. I think it will come down to contrast and brightness, the N1 was originally rated way too high, several times what the real lumens measured, now with CVIA they are closer to most other brands ANSI lumens (like BenQ for example). The N1 has been reported to have significant laser speckle and alignment issues which creates some red outlines in fine detail, I haven't seen any reports on the L500 with this issue yet. The Optoma ML1080 is probably much more similar to to the L500 than the N1. I really dislike that the gimbal cannot be removed from the N1, if you wanted to have a small shelf on the ceiling to for the projector you'd have to have the screen quite far from the ceiling in order to avoid using keystone correction which wouldn't work well in a basement. The slim design of the L500 is more convenient in my opinion. Once I get the L500 I may get the N1 and ML1080 as well to compare them as well as run measurements and keep whichever one I like best.
Cvia lumens are often lower than ansi, so you would be correct that the n1 mini is likely the superior projector in terms of brightness, and I'm sure that malc light engine is stuff hitting high color volumes in the mini
Just as a note here - I did receive the L500. The biggest issues with it are: - Input lag (133ms) - Motion handling (no proper 24p playback - only 3:2 pulldown) - Poor sharpness due to the 540p pixel shift DMD - Laser speckle on more reflective surfaces like satin walls and up - flat walls or low gain white screens do better - Lack of CMS - colors are inaccurate and there is no way to correct them - Very poor MEMC - tons of artifacts that make it unusable for me - Somewhat buggy - Fans are quite loud - especially on high brightness which is needed for this projector Neutral: - Measured about 550 lumens at max brightness or 500 lumens at more accurate settings Good: - Very vibrant colors - Decent contrast at 950:1 Native and 176:1 ANSI - Autofocus and auto keystone work well for walls at various angles If didn't care about size/weight I would probably pick the N1. The L500 is very lightweight and can simply strap a Chromecast to it with a rubberband but I don't think I can recommend it with the current issues.
Based on these youtube video reports, I think one of the single biggest plus point for L500 is its colour reproduction that may help it nudge past its competitors in similar space.
would be nice with a serious comparison vs the Nebula Laser. The Nebula is more portable but costs $100 more and not sure if the RGB laser is worth it. The Nebula is rated at 30k hours vs 20k hours for this, though not very useful ratings.
I had to return it to Anker the Nebula Capsule 3. This is brighter and slightly better colour gamut. Plus a little less fan noise. But the anker has the built in battery and Android TV. The last one is an easy fix, I used my Android TV unit all Netflix certified that cost me $30. The Anker doesn't come with Netflix preinstalled and it's a pain to get up and running, plus only in SD. Both are good. As for the 20k hours Vs 30k hours. I'm not sure why the big difference but I think it's to do with the better brightness.
@@Techtablets Just to be clear going from DCI-P3 to Rec.2020 is about 40% more color range. While it may not be that noticeable in today's content, once TV's are able to cover this color space we will see more proper full Rec.2020 content and there will be a more drastic difference. I do wonder what the contrast of the L500 is though, the Capsule 3 has pretty poor contrast at about 300:1. I'm hoping the L500 is closer to 1000:1. As far as the laser life, I'm guessing to cram three lasers in there they probably have to use a different kind of laser which is a bit lower life; that being said the ML1080 is also rated at 30k hours and it's triple laser. Either way, it's unlikely to be an issue as the fans, DMD chip or something else will likely fail before there is an issue with the light source.
Yes really that's not something you can notice unless side by side. I wish I would use my Spyder Pro X on it like I do with displays, and then see the exact coverage Vs claimed. Tue the chip or something else inside is likely to fail before the light source. I've got there P1000 model now that's i'm testing out, 2300 ANSI so a huge step up, HDR and 4K. Best part the latency of 4.2ms at 1080p.
@@Techtablets Unfortunately to get accurate measurements on triple laser projectors you have to create a profile using a spectrometer for that specific projector due to the different light spectrum compared to lamp or LED. You can fairly accurately measure the on/off native contrast with a simple light meter though. Toids DIY Audio did run some measurements on the L500 and it did cover Rec.2020 in his testing, not sure if he profiled the projector though so the results may not be 100% accurate. The P1000 seems pretty good for the price, a buddy has a x3000i and it is very bright with solid colors, 1080p at 240hz is very nice on a PC that can handle it. 3D looks fantastic and it can handle some ambient light. The contrast is a bit lacking at the price point though (around 1300:1 contrast). I personally have a 6050UB is my dedicated theater and have the iris set to give a brightness of about 800-900 color lumens which is very bright in a black velvet covered and flat black painted room with a white screen and gives inky blacks (~8000:1 native contrast).
Unfortunately way too many products that are backed by "crowdfunding" eventually to be dead ends .. Seen too many of them get awesome previews etc on various media channels (like on this projector) and as soon as the people who are making it have their funds, and in many cases get many times more than the funding goal, they cash out the money and they're not to be heard of after that, and the only ones who ever actually see/test the products are the "reviewers" on their media channels, and usually there is only a handful of products made as each reviewer has to ship the product back to the supplier after doing a "hands on review" .
Nice review - I like to watch your reviews! 😎👍 ... but I would say Nebula Capsule 3 Laser or Nebula Mars 3 is better deal in my opinion! You have Android TV integrated and Chromecast. It also has big battery (185 Wh) integrated and you can use Mars 3 as powerbank for USB-A and USB-C devices. Mars 3 is also splash proof, dust proof, impact proof. Mars 3 also has 3 speakers (left, right, back) 40 W Dolby Digital Plus! And list goes on (I made review on my channel if someone is interested) 😉😎👍
Android TV is nice but with a focus on picture quality the L500 is going to blow away those projectors. Tech4All did a side by side comparison of the Capsule 3 and the L500. A Chromecast 4k is what $40-50 maybe even $20-30 on sale?
Not even in the same galaxy regarding color. The Anker just covers Rec.709 and cannot cover DCI-P3. The L500 covers the much wider BT.2020. No TV can even cover this color space. Other triple laser projectors that can cover this color space are the JMGO N1 Ultra, Hisense C1, and quite a few USTs like the Formovie Theater, etc. One that may match it is the Optoma ML1080 at $999 which looks like a very similar projector in a different package. The brightness is lower, but that's simply a limit of the size. The Anker is rated higher but actual measured lumens in a usable mode is around 400-500, would have to compare them side by side to get an idea how they stack up.
Nebula Capsule 3 Laser or Nebula Mars 3 is better deal in my opinion also! You also have Android TV integrated and Chromecast and battery. You can also use Mars 3 as powerbank (185 Wh) for USB-A and USB-C devices. Mars 3 is also splash proof, dust proof, impact proof. Mars 3 also has 3 speakers (left, right, back) 40 W Dolby Digital Plus! And list goes on (I made review on my channel if someone is interested) 😉😎👍
@@Feanor12 The Capsule 3 is much dimmer. Check the Tech4All comparison out. The exposure of the camera is too high but it's obvious the L500 is much brighter.
Hard disagree. The color space coverage (BT.2020) on this projector is wider than ANY TV on the market and can match much more expensive projectors like the JMGO N1 Ultra, Hisense C1, and quite a few USTs like the Formovie Theater, etc. One that may match it is the Optoma ML1080 at $999 which looks like a very similar projector in a different package.
Absolutely a rising star in the projector industry!!
It's good to have another player, it will push other brands to compete with this model.
Thanks for letting us know about this piece of spec Mr Chris. Brightness and color reproduction has been a slight issue but thankfully it seems really good here.
No problem!
Love the size of this thing!
Yes it's really tiny so easy to move about or place in a backback.
So between this and the Nebula Capsule 3 which should I get?
Any suggestions on a stand8ng scrren for outdoors.. do i need the yardmaster for that black paf behind it or any of thise 50 dollar 120" amazon screens be suffice
Thanks for the video Chris.
Any time!
As always very informative review thanks Chris!!!
Thank you!!
I would love to see a video directly comparing the L500 to the JMGO N1 (mini).
The N1 (mini):
1: is virtual silent
2: has much quicker & smoother keystone correction
3: is possibly (different Lumen certification) much brighter than the L500 with its 800 CVIA Lumens
4: Google TV built-in
5: custom individual input memory
6: very convenient gimbal system
7: comes with a nice case
8: is frequently on sale on Amazon, priced around $800, & has gone as low as $750
To be honest, I am a Kickstarter backer & current owner of JMGO'S newest edition in the N1 series, the 4K N1-ULTRA. I love my N1-U, but it is a little on the large side & a bit beefy in weight.
When I saw the L500, I saw intrigued, but even when I had the chance to jump on the super early bird price of only $650 on Kickstarter (a very good price), I saw that the comparatively better N-1 (mini) is currently on sale for $810. In my opinion, the extra $160 for the N-1 is well worth it.
The performance of the two seem similar with the edge to the N1, one thing to consider is that the N1 is also twice the weight and quite a bit larger overall.
I think it will come down to contrast and brightness, the N1 was originally rated way too high, several times what the real lumens measured, now with CVIA they are closer to most other brands ANSI lumens (like BenQ for example).
The N1 has been reported to have significant laser speckle and alignment issues which creates some red outlines in fine detail, I haven't seen any reports on the L500 with this issue yet. The Optoma ML1080 is probably much more similar to to the L500 than the N1.
I really dislike that the gimbal cannot be removed from the N1, if you wanted to have a small shelf on the ceiling to for the projector you'd have to have the screen quite far from the ceiling in order to avoid using keystone correction which wouldn't work well in a basement. The slim design of the L500 is more convenient in my opinion.
Once I get the L500 I may get the N1 and ML1080 as well to compare them as well as run measurements and keep whichever one I like best.
Cvia lumens are often lower than ansi, so you would be correct that the n1 mini is likely the superior projector in terms of brightness, and I'm sure that malc light engine is stuff hitting high color volumes in the mini
Just as a note here - I did receive the L500.
The biggest issues with it are:
- Input lag (133ms)
- Motion handling (no proper 24p playback - only 3:2 pulldown)
- Poor sharpness due to the 540p pixel shift DMD
- Laser speckle on more reflective surfaces like satin walls and up - flat walls or low gain white screens do better
- Lack of CMS - colors are inaccurate and there is no way to correct them
- Very poor MEMC - tons of artifacts that make it unusable for me
- Somewhat buggy
- Fans are quite loud - especially on high brightness which is needed for this projector
Neutral:
- Measured about 550 lumens at max brightness or 500 lumens at more accurate settings
Good:
- Very vibrant colors
- Decent contrast at 950:1 Native and 176:1 ANSI
- Autofocus and auto keystone work well for walls at various angles
If didn't care about size/weight I would probably pick the N1.
The L500 is very lightweight and can simply strap a Chromecast to it with a rubberband but I don't think I can recommend it with the current issues.
will it run without power you don't mention battery run time???
Anyway to load up Netflix from the App store?
Based on these youtube video reports, I think one of the single biggest plus point for L500 is its colour reproduction that may help it nudge past its competitors in similar space.
Are you going to review the Huawei nova 11/pro?
I'm not really sure I haven't heard anything from Huawei on this phone. Hopefully they send me one.
How are the optics, any sign of blurred edges or halos?
Fine I see no issues and the auto focus is spot on. No halos.
PLS REVIEW THE REDMI NOTE 12 TURBO/POCO F5 PLEASE 🥺. I LOVE YOUR REVIEWS ABOUT PHONES A LOT
If they send it I will review it. But no plans to buy it sorry.
@@Techtablets ok thanks for being honest
Nice nice nice projector bro!!!!!!!
Yeah it is
Seems a good projector, can i use my PC for HDR gaming or not?
Yes you can use your PC.
would be nice with a serious comparison vs the Nebula Laser. The Nebula is more portable but costs $100 more and not sure if the RGB laser is worth it. The Nebula is rated at 30k hours vs 20k hours for this, though not very useful ratings.
I had to return it to Anker the Nebula Capsule 3. This is brighter and slightly better colour gamut. Plus a little less fan noise. But the anker has the built in battery and Android TV. The last one is an easy fix, I used my Android TV unit all Netflix certified that cost me $30. The Anker doesn't come with Netflix preinstalled and it's a pain to get up and running, plus only in SD. Both are good. As for the 20k hours Vs 30k hours. I'm not sure why the big difference but I think it's to do with the better brightness.
@@Techtablets thanks! I guess you are right about brightness and life. Still hard to choose between them which I guess is a good sign
@@Techtablets Just to be clear going from DCI-P3 to Rec.2020 is about 40% more color range. While it may not be that noticeable in today's content, once TV's are able to cover this color space we will see more proper full Rec.2020 content and there will be a more drastic difference. I do wonder what the contrast of the L500 is though, the Capsule 3 has pretty poor contrast at about 300:1. I'm hoping the L500 is closer to 1000:1. As far as the laser life, I'm guessing to cram three lasers in there they probably have to use a different kind of laser which is a bit lower life; that being said the ML1080 is also rated at 30k hours and it's triple laser. Either way, it's unlikely to be an issue as the fans, DMD chip or something else will likely fail before there is an issue with the light source.
Yes really that's not something you can notice unless side by side. I wish I would use my Spyder Pro X on it like I do with displays, and then see the exact coverage Vs claimed. Tue the chip or something else inside is likely to fail before the light source. I've got there P1000 model now that's i'm testing out, 2300 ANSI so a huge step up, HDR and 4K. Best part the latency of 4.2ms at 1080p.
@@Techtablets Unfortunately to get accurate measurements on triple laser projectors you have to create a profile using a spectrometer for that specific projector due to the different light spectrum compared to lamp or LED. You can fairly accurately measure the on/off native contrast with a simple light meter though. Toids DIY Audio did run some measurements on the L500 and it did cover Rec.2020 in his testing, not sure if he profiled the projector though so the results may not be 100% accurate.
The P1000 seems pretty good for the price, a buddy has a x3000i and it is very bright with solid colors, 1080p at 240hz is very nice on a PC that can handle it. 3D looks fantastic and it can handle some ambient light. The contrast is a bit lacking at the price point though (around 1300:1 contrast).
I personally have a 6050UB is my dedicated theater and have the iris set to give a brightness of about 800-900 color lumens which is very bright in a black velvet covered and flat black painted room with a white screen and gives inky blacks (~8000:1 native contrast).
I'm confused why is it portable if there is no battery?
cool!
Cool
Please review the latest lenovo pad pro 12.7
I've bought one to review 😃
@@Techtabletsthank you!
Can you use Xbox one with this and it will be in HDR?
Yes and it should be my PS5 detected it has HDR compatible.
Unfortunately way too many products that are backed by "crowdfunding" eventually to be dead ends .. Seen too many of them get awesome previews etc on various media channels (like on this projector) and as soon as the people who are making it have their funds, and in many cases get many times more than the funding goal, they cash out the money and they're not to be heard of after that, and the only ones who ever actually see/test the products are the "reviewers" on their media channels, and usually there is only a handful of products made as each reviewer has to ship the product back to the supplier after doing a "hands on review" .
I certainly hope this isn't the case, but yes I did have to ship this back and on to the next reviewer.
Don't like passive cooling... Would much rather it had a 6 foot x 6 foot radiator on the side of it.
Nice review - I like to watch your reviews! 😎👍
... but I would say Nebula Capsule 3 Laser or Nebula Mars 3 is better deal in my opinion! You have Android TV integrated and Chromecast. It also has big battery (185 Wh) integrated and you can use Mars 3 as powerbank for USB-A and USB-C devices. Mars 3 is also splash proof, dust proof, impact proof. Mars 3 also has 3 speakers (left, right, back) 40 W Dolby Digital Plus! And list goes on (I made review on my channel if someone is interested) 😉😎👍
Android TV is nice but with a focus on picture quality the L500 is going to blow away those projectors. Tech4All did a side by side comparison of the Capsule 3 and the L500. A Chromecast 4k is what $40-50 maybe even $20-30 on sale?
Fair enough!
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Nice and small but doesn't look as good as the Anker Nebula Cosmos at £500.
Maybe I'm missing something?
Exactly my thoughts, Cosmos or the Capsule series would be better and jsut as small. Similar prices?
Not even in the same galaxy regarding color. The Anker just covers Rec.709 and cannot cover DCI-P3. The L500 covers the much wider BT.2020. No TV can even cover this color space. Other triple laser projectors that can cover this color space are the JMGO N1 Ultra, Hisense C1, and quite a few USTs like the Formovie Theater, etc. One that may match it is the Optoma ML1080 at $999 which looks like a very similar projector in a different package.
The brightness is lower, but that's simply a limit of the size. The Anker is rated higher but actual measured lumens in a usable mode is around 400-500, would have to compare them side by side to get an idea how they stack up.
Nebula Capsule 3 Laser or Nebula Mars 3 is better deal in my opinion also! You also have Android TV integrated and Chromecast and battery. You can also use Mars 3 as powerbank (185 Wh) for USB-A and USB-C devices. Mars 3 is also splash proof, dust proof, impact proof. Mars 3 also has 3 speakers (left, right, back) 40 W Dolby Digital Plus! And list goes on (I made review on my channel if someone is interested) 😉😎👍
@@Feanor12 The Capsule 3 is much dimmer. Check the Tech4All comparison out. The exposure of the camera is too high but it's obvious the L500 is much brighter.
nebula capsule 3 and this one, which has better picture quality in daylight??? Thank you so much 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
This, it's a lot brighter than the Capsule 3.
@@Techtablets ok but Picture quality?
As far as I remember both similar. Maybe a slight edge to the Capsule 3.
@@Techtablets thank you so much🙏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
You're welcome.
Would be awesome if only this had Android TV sad
Yes it doesn't have it but very easy via a Firestick or the Android TV box I showed.
399 or 299 is a better price
For sure but what is the price?
Too much $$$ for what it is! I'll buy a 65" TV instead
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Looks great for the size but then that price tag of $649. No thank you! This is too expensive for what it is.
it shoots lasers though
@@jub8891 Yes so it's an RGB laser and not LED good. But still overpriced!
Fair enough!
Hard disagree. The color space coverage (BT.2020) on this projector is wider than ANY TV on the market and can match much more expensive projectors like the JMGO N1 Ultra, Hisense C1, and quite a few USTs like the Formovie Theater, etc. One that may match it is the Optoma ML1080 at $999 which looks like a very similar projector in a different package.
Portable? Well where's the bloody battery then? 🤣😂
No battery in it. It's because it's so small it's "portable"
Thanks for the video Chris.
Any time!
Nice nice nice projector bro!!!!!!!
Yeah thanks
So between this and the Nebula Capsule 3 which should I get?
This is brigher and better colours.
Would be awesome if only this had Android TV sad
Can you use Xbox one with this and it will be in HDR?
Can you use Xbox one with this and it will be in HDR?