Whoop 4.0 In-Depth Review // Accuracy and the Algorithm

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
  • A comprehensive review of the Whoop 4.0 health and fitness tracker tested for accuracy with running, cycling, weight training, and more. Plus, what I think of Whoop's concept of Recovery and Strain and how that compared to how I felt in real life.
    #Whoop #Whoop4 #Whoop4Review
    Thanks for watching!
    // Sections
    0:00 Intro
    1:53 Hardware & Battery Life
    4:33 App Overview
    6:33 Workouts and Strain
    10:31 Sleep and Recovery
    14:43 Heart Rate Accuracy
    20:09 Price
    21:30 Wrap Up
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  • @DCassidy42
    @DCassidy42 2 роки тому +1052

    I hate the fact that it's a subscription program... For me it's a deal breaker.

    • @trevorgaddy5947
      @trevorgaddy5947 Рік тому +67

      $300 plus subscription…. Glad I watched this video first

    • @apocalypse487
      @apocalypse487 Рік тому +57

      It's overpriced. I would consider it for $5 a month. $10 Max, but that's still a lot.

    • @TheBamanda2
      @TheBamanda2 Рік тому +48

      @@trevorgaddy5947 $300 is the cost of the subscription and the device for one year

    • @Slayride24
      @Slayride24 Рік тому +38

      It’s like a typical gym membership. Big whoop. No pun intended

    • @DCassidy42
      @DCassidy42 Рік тому +70

      @@Slayride24 minus the gym.

  • @theentropykid
    @theentropykid 2 роки тому +25

    This was a FANTASTIC video. No joke, you did solid work here. Thank you!!

  • @TylerTheStyler
    @TylerTheStyler 5 місяців тому +13

    Phenomenal review, I very much appreciate your experimental approach and data analysis review. Subbed!

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks!

  • @tiffanyhauk2518
    @tiffanyhauk2518 6 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for your detailed and honest review!!!!

  • @FlowConsciously
    @FlowConsciously Рік тому +5

    BEST review video I've seen for this product! THANK YOU!

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  Рік тому

      You’re welcome! Thanks!

    • @johnofavalon1
      @johnofavalon1 3 місяці тому

      It's a big scam. Make sure you slept at least 7 hours a night. Log your sleep with a simple free sleep app. Drink minimum 8 glasses of water upto 16 glasses of water. Eat nutritious food when you are hungry and stop before you are full. You don't need any gadgets and gimmicks.

  • @ItsDisliked
    @ItsDisliked Рік тому +123

    Update for those that mainly do weight training/musculair training: Whoop released an update that can finally measure musculair strain. Instead of getting 5-6 you can now get 13 with just muscle training!

    • @SuperDraupnir
      @SuperDraupnir Рік тому +1

      13 what?

    • @askeladd709
      @askeladd709 Рік тому

      @@SuperDraupnir Strain level I'm guessing.

    • @Mango_Dx
      @Mango_Dx Рік тому +1

      Is this the level cap increased or sarcasm

    • @raulmachler8830
      @raulmachler8830 11 місяців тому

      How does this work? I got the whoop 1 week ago.
      While doing muscle training, it gives me only a 5 or 6.

    • @DanyPell
      @DanyPell 11 місяців тому +1

      And how would they know from just a wrist band... Theyll need to come up with a camera with AI that always watches for version 5 :D

  • @dxb_coder
    @dxb_coder 6 місяців тому +4

    The best review about Whoop I've ever watched.

  • @maggieleonard5854
    @maggieleonard5854 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent in-depth information clearly delivered. I just got my whoop and this video helped me understand the various aspects of this device.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому

      Glad the information helped! Thanks!

    • @johnofavalon1
      @johnofavalon1 3 місяці тому

      It's a big scam. Make sure you slept at least 7 hours a night. Log your sleep with a simple free sleep app. Drink minimum 8 glasses of water upto 16 glasses of water. Eat nutritious food when you are hungry and stop before you are full. You don't need any gadgets and gimmicks.

  • @ergophonic
    @ergophonic Рік тому +73

    09:20 This is what I was looking for. I was keen to know how the Strain feature would work with weight training. I don't do enough cardio to warrant this purchase. Thank you for such an excellent review and helping me decide that this is not the wearable for me. I'm confident that biotech wearables will be ubiquitous in the future but they've still a long way to go.

    • @oppacab
      @oppacab Рік тому +6

      Exactly what I took from this

    • @Moi_81
      @Moi_81 Рік тому +1

      Same. I do mostly strength training and needed a wearable that could track my metrics.

    • @samtheman7366
      @samtheman7366 Рік тому +2

      Yeah also 16:47. Weight training was the only reason I was considering this as I cannot wear Oura on my gym sessions which is pretty critical. I hope Samsung watches would incorporate more of these HRV-and overall readiness levels like other wellness products do.

    • @Tyronnster
      @Tyronnster 8 місяців тому

      Sorry for old post. I predominantly do gym workouts using weights. Any recommendations as i was considering this item
      Don't have apple phone so cant use apple phone.

    • @Seby438
      @Seby438 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Tyronnster I believe whoop have added a feature to track weight training better

  • @jonathandurairaj2434
    @jonathandurairaj2434 Рік тому +27

    Genuinely loved this in-depth review, no crap just facts. Thank you so much and keep up the amazing work❤️

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  Рік тому +1

      Thanks and will do!

  • @davidocanas2713
    @davidocanas2713 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for the review. Helped me make up my mind.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому

      Glad the information helped 👍

    • @johnofavalon1
      @johnofavalon1 3 місяці тому

      It's a big scam. Make sure you slept at least 7 hours a night. Log your sleep with a simple free sleep app. Drink minimum 8 glasses of water upto 16 glasses of water. Eat nutritious food when you are hungry and stop before you are full. You don't need any gadgets and gimmicks.

  • @rpsingh18
    @rpsingh18 5 місяців тому +24

    Love the data and the comparisons! Wish there were more technical unbiased reviews on YT.
    Heart felt gratitude DesFit!

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  5 місяців тому +1

      Happy to help. Thanks!

    • @johnofavalon1
      @johnofavalon1 3 місяці тому

      It's a big scam. Make sure you slept at least 7 hours a night. Log your sleep with a simple free sleep app. Drink minimum 8 glasses of water upto 16 glasses of water. Eat nutritious food when you are hungry and stop before you are full. You don't need any gadgets and gimmicks.

  • @rayanalduhaiman9274
    @rayanalduhaiman9274 Рік тому +2

    Very detailed review.. Great job!

  • @walcottav
    @walcottav 2 роки тому +17

    My experience was with Whoop 3.0 and while I find what Whoop is trying to do with analytics and presentation really interesting, I found it overkill for me, and the expense unjustified. I am also an arthritis sufferer, and if I followed Whoop's strain recommendation following good sleep recovery consistently, my joint health would suffer severely. I certainly dialed back to what I knew my body could sustain, but the analytics called me out as an underperforming slacker. 😆As for the form factor, I found the wristband didn't hold up for me and the device itself caused a skin rash, something no sports watch has ever done. Perhaps that's been improved in this new version. It will be interesting to see how it all progresses into the future. Nice review Des, thanks!

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for sharing your experience! Thanks A Mc!

    • @johnofavalon1
      @johnofavalon1 3 місяці тому

      It's a big scam. Make sure you slept at least 7 hours a night. Log your sleep with a simple free sleep app. Drink minimum 8 glasses of water upto 16 glasses of water. Eat nutritious food when you are hungry and stop before you are full. You don't need any gadgets and gimmicks.

  • @mlegrand
    @mlegrand 2 роки тому +32

    People who have Whoop straps seems to absolutely love it. Whoop-fanatics. I can totally understand how their break down of rest and recovery can be super attractive but I just can't justify that price per month. 😬. I figure all of these workout detections are built around learning algorithms. Seems like we'd see a good bit of improvement over the upcoming years. Should be nice. Amazing video Mr Des! 👏

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +6

      I can see the attractiveness of it but I’m on the same page in regards to price. If it delivered more in terms of accuracy I’d be much more OK with the price. Thanks Matt!!

    • @mlegrand
      @mlegrand 2 роки тому +5

      @@DesFit - Yesterday a friend was telling me that he wouldn’t renew his Whoop. I actually think he’ll miss it switching to Garmin but we’ll see. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +5

      @@mlegrand like some relationships, it may be hard at first to break up but better in the long run

    • @raidthanfl
      @raidthanfl Рік тому +2

      If it can help me get 1-2 more hours of quality sleep, $30 is chump change. When you average 4-5 hours of shit sleep, this can be a game changer. Cant wait to get it in the mail

  • @brevs97
    @brevs97 9 місяців тому +4

    This was such an impressive comprehensive review. Thank you for doing this! Very helpful

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  9 місяців тому +1

      Glad to help!

  • @yskandartakchi5723
    @yskandartakchi5723 2 роки тому +1

    The Best review possible! Ty

  • @balajijgd
    @balajijgd 2 роки тому +6

    Great review, can see so much of effort put into the review 🕴️

  • @aannan3
    @aannan3 Рік тому +1

    great analysis and insight!

  • @andy372
    @andy372 Рік тому +17

    Excellent review! My thoughts exactly. Garmin should come up with a better way to track HRV and display recovery as whoop does. I’m certainly not happy having to be subscribed to whoop for life to get this. So yes, I’m too patiently waiting for some garmin upgrades. They seemed they slowed down a bit.

  • @geekindakitchen
    @geekindakitchen Рік тому +1

    Thanks mate, appreciate the review as always.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  Рік тому +1

      👍 you’re welcome

    • @geekindakitchen
      @geekindakitchen Рік тому +1

      @@DesFit keep up the amazing work. I love you style been a long time follower. Lots of love and support from Australia

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  Рік тому

      Thanks so much!

  • @Shrinidhihv
    @Shrinidhihv 2 роки тому +1

    Very thoughtful and detailed review...

  • @BrandonTalbot
    @BrandonTalbot 2 роки тому +3

    Always a solid review! Best in the Biz.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Brandon! You’ve got some great videos about it as well!

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot 2 роки тому +1

      @@DesFit That's very kind of you thank you.

  • @Moi_81
    @Moi_81 Рік тому +3

    This review was extremely helpful. This definitely let me know I am not the right user. I also saw somewhere that if you cancel your membership. They will charge you $60 sales tax for the device. Which is also ridiculous.

  • @lucarealmuto5416
    @lucarealmuto5416 Рік тому +1

    Really good video! Plenty of information to digest

  • @treysonmcgrady4750
    @treysonmcgrady4750 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic unbiased review. I’m gonna stick with my Vivoactive but it does seem like this product can be improved to the point it can better compete.

  • @GeoffreyHiggs
    @GeoffreyHiggs 9 місяців тому +1

    Great review, I intend to use Whoop solely for the sleep, HRV, and recovery data...don't like sleeping with a heavy watch. I use a Garmin forerunner 945 as well as a garmin HRM Pro Plus chest heart rate strap for key workouts. I mainly use during running threshold workouts to stay in the proper range. Your going to get the most accuracy from a chest heart rate strap.

  • @wildgingerruns
    @wildgingerruns 2 роки тому +3

    Great review thanks Des! You're awesome! Since when did we become unable to work out whether we need more sleep/rest I wonder! Listening to the body still rules. This gadget sounds like a real money spinner...I'm off for a nap ;)

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much! Hope you enjoyed your nap!

  • @craigclark5845
    @craigclark5845 2 роки тому +5

    Good review, I have had my whoop 4 for a week now, I love how light it is. I find the heart rate as accurate or the same as my Apple Watch series 6 when worn on the wrist. I really like it so far, I also have that battery issue, where you need to slide it off and back on again to charge. I am sure this could be fixed with a firmware update, I did update the battery pack firmware and the watch firmware. It is expensive and I also dislike subscription services, but so far I’m happy with the device.

    • @louisschmidt1421
      @louisschmidt1421 2 роки тому

      A fitbit inspire is smaller and lighter. Offers similar metrics, has a display. Cost 70Euro for the device and 12 month premium. The app is a little bit to coloured and not intuitiv. But this wasn’t whoop as well. Both are not good which deep sleep detection. That’s why I finally switched to Vivomove sports, which also looks like a normal watch. Using the fitbit at night for hrv and sending back the whoop.

    • @william9104
      @william9104 Рік тому

      Are you still enjoying the Whoop?

  • @maranr
    @maranr 2 роки тому +161

    Another great thoughtful review. If Garmin can improve their data presentation in their apps and can make it more actionable, personally, I can't see a place for this device on my wrist given the cost. Although, I don't love going to sleep with my Fenix 7s (even if it is the smallest device of that line) so I do think these minimalist devices have a place. I would love to see companies like Garmin come out with a low-cost, low-profile companion device for sleep tracking only.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +9

      There are certainly opportunities from other companies to present this data better and also provide more historical feedback. It will be interesting to see how Whoop does in the long term.

    • @SD-ko4tz
      @SD-ko4tz 2 роки тому +3

      I dislike the fact that sport watches show you all kind of things which effects me. It can also be in a negative way. So just wearing and not shwoing all kinds of things is the positive of the whoop for me

    • @TurkeyDart
      @TurkeyDart 2 роки тому +4

      Or something like an oura ring attachment for your wearable. Thats super easy to sleep with

    • @hotmail6
      @hotmail6 2 роки тому +2

      I moved from the galaxy watch 3 to whoop and garmin (by accident, had trouble getting whoop initially and they both ended up showing up on the same day). The galaxy watch 3 showed my HR as sitting between 66 to about 77 throughout the day as it's not sampling as frequently, although it appeared to capture cardio workouts with reasonable accuracy.
      I'm loving these devices the resolution is awesome HRV and spO2 tracking is wicked and as above great in depth review DesFit. Subscribed.

    • @stryjo
      @stryjo Рік тому

      FtiBit had great app and intelligence, but Garmin Fenix is better suited to what I need it for

  • @edismehmedali4666
    @edismehmedali4666 5 місяців тому +2

    Appreciate the bicep band section, I’ve been underwhelmed with the accuracy of my whoop on the wrist and was looking for reviews of the bicep band accuracy to see if it would help

  • @joshuanicholson420
    @joshuanicholson420 2 роки тому +3

    Great review. I was super keen to buy one some months ago but their system to purchase it, just failed to work. I gave up after several attempts and updated to Garmin Fenix 7x, which I've liked - but still see the differences the whoop offer.

  • @rauliuxaa
    @rauliuxaa Рік тому +9

    It's an amazing device in terms of sleep tracking, that being said the really important feature that isn't there is being able to observe all the data during the current time when you're actually doing something, unless you're actually looking at your phone, which isn't really that doable in many activities. so the sleep tracker is useful af, other things lack in accuracy and are not actually visible at the point of time you're doing something.

    • @JeremyBarbell
      @JeremyBarbell 7 місяців тому

      I found it to be extremely unreliable when it came to sleep accuracy. I had to go back and edit my sleep time almost every single day.

  • @johnswiderski1494
    @johnswiderski1494 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  10 місяців тому

      Thanks!

  • @sigfreed11
    @sigfreed11 Рік тому +10

    I like the whoop largely because I just want to be healthy, I don’t want yet another screen in my life. Especially attached to my body. I want some no screen competition to go against whoop

  • @matthewmackay3354
    @matthewmackay3354 2 роки тому +17

    That was an excellent discussion of the Whoop. I think the hardware and website are cleverly designed and the info would augment my other tracking devices, but I just cannot justify $40CAD a month for these metrics. Thanks again for putting in the work on this..

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +2

      Sure thing, Matthew. Thanks so much!

    • @mdbourne
      @mdbourne 2 роки тому +5

      Totally agree. The accuracy is not there for the premium price.

    • @richxps
      @richxps 2 роки тому +4

      Agreed.. Paying this much just for a whoop membership for 2-3 years gets you a good Garmin device with similar data…. My gym even cost less than whoops monthly fee.. Maybe if it was between 10-15 month to month than maybe I would of considered it…But 30 plus tax !! Ouch

    • @fayerosenthal2399
      @fayerosenthal2399 Рік тому +3

      @@richxps Im disabled so dont need all the bells & whistles on a wearable.I only need body stats in sleep,heart,oxygen variatians,temp etc...But like u i think whoop r v.expensive.I dont want a monthly sub either,id rather buy the wearable & know its mine.So im needing a health tracker as im wrkng woth a new clinician/FDP & hes advosed me to buy a wearable so hes able to my stats 24/7.So may i ask,,do u rec Garmin & dya reckon itd b ok 4 what im needing it for? In ur opinion r they reliable & accurate? Big thanks! x

  • @SuperDuperCoopster
    @SuperDuperCoopster 2 роки тому +4

    Great review - I fully agree with everything you have said. For me, Whoop is worth it because of the gamification of wellness/fitness in which I can compete with my friends. I look forward to seeing my recovery every morning but I know it has its flaws (hardware, price). What wearable do you personally use and believe in now - Garmin? I am very open to trying new wearables. Thank you!

    • @johnofavalon1
      @johnofavalon1 3 місяці тому

      It's a big scam. Make sure you slept at least 7 hours a night. Log your sleep with a simple free sleep app. Drink minimum 8 glasses of water upto 16 glasses of water. Eat nutritious food when you are hungry and stop before you are full. You don't need any gadgets and gimmicks.

  • @emailant
    @emailant 2 місяці тому

    Thank for the wonderful in-depth review. This far exceeds what I’ve been researching for awhile. Love hearing the shortfalls too so it gives me some realistic expectations.
    I am bummed about the fairly expensive subscription too. For everything, I might be okay with something creeping towards USD $12 -15/mth.
    Maybe there could be tiered level of service with $2 for each component in the future.
    All things considered there is one thing that’s moving me towards using this.
    I prefer to not use a tracker on my wrist but rather have it higher on the forearm or even on my bicep.
    Forearm cos it doesn’t get in the way when I’m working with my hands generally.
    Bicep so I can have it hidden under my sleeve for whatever occasion.
    I feel sensors need to stop trying to be a watch and just be what they’re meant to be, sensors.

  • @konstantinoschatzitolios8891
    @konstantinoschatzitolios8891 2 роки тому +1

    Great review! Thanks a lot. I think I will stick with my Garmin Vivosmart 4 as a whole day tracker and tracking body battery and also my forerrunner 945 for my workouts. I wonder if we will ever see a Vivosmart 5 though?

  • @proteinshake3685
    @proteinshake3685 2 роки тому +13

    I tried Whoop 4.0 for two weeks , I like their software but the HR sensor is so bad and the calories burned estimate is too low , Yesterday’s full day calories burned was :
    Apple Watch: 3220
    Fenix 7X : 3070
    Whoop 4.0 : 2167
    I’m just canceled my membership
    Thank you for the video brother ❤️

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +1

      Calorie estimation was s section I removed due to the video being quite long already. It seems to be OK for individual running activities but was quite off for cycling as well as daily. Thanks for sharing your experience!

    • @BlokiMedia
      @BlokiMedia Рік тому +1

      The Apple Watch specifically has been said to be very generous with how many calories you burn. Would be interesting to see what the result is if you were wired up to high tech doctors gear.

  • @lchumakova
    @lchumakova 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! I was wondering if you were planning to make a video of comparing several the hrv-centered features across devices: oura's and whoop's recoveries and garmin's "body battery". I understand that you can't quantitatively compare them against smth robust like polar h10 in the case of the HR, but even how you "feel" the suggestions of one are more informative than the other would be useful.
    I own whoop because it has no screens/etc and the data is presented in an information-dense way. I wish it did something like the body battery for the stress/strain incurred during the day, and gave me access to my data. I wouldn't mind switching to something more accurate once other devices (e.g. garmin) are low profile (no screen, can be worn on the bicep).

  • @Noname-yu8qw
    @Noname-yu8qw Рік тому +13

    I'm tired of subscriptions everywhere, not buying for this reason

  • @justinhankins7253
    @justinhankins7253 Рік тому +1

    Everyone says the heartrate is sortof busted but I am more interested in sleep and recovery. I ordered one for a year lets see what we can learn. thanks for video man.

    • @Valentro
      @Valentro 22 дні тому

      What did u learn??? Is it good?

  • @luismarriot586
    @luismarriot586 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video / review man. Really detailed and thought out. I'm currently rocking a Fitbit Charge 2 (I know, it's shockingly still going). Obviously, I'm looking for a new sports watch and had considered a Whoop until I came across this review. I mostly weight-lift and run 3 - 4 times a week (just a 3k). But due to my crazy work schedule, the sleep factor was attractive. I won't be moving forward with my purchase but if anyone has any suggestions on an investment piece for the next 3 - 5 years would love to hear.

    • @djwawa5517
      @djwawa5517 Рік тому

      Fitbit charge 2 is amazing and wish i never switched out of mine 😭

  • @robin-mt1sf
    @robin-mt1sf 2 роки тому +8

    Great reviews as usual . It be awesome if you could compare the whoop 4.0 with polar recovery pro and garmin training load /body battery.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +10

      I've got a follow-up video where I'll be doing some comparisons. Thanks!

    • @niles_stone2540
      @niles_stone2540 2 роки тому +4

      @@DesFit can’t wait to see it.

    • @robin-mt1sf
      @robin-mt1sf 2 роки тому +1

      @@DesFit that would be awesome . Can't wait ;)

  • @askeladd709
    @askeladd709 Рік тому +1

    Another thing to keep in mind is health insurance subsidies for health wearables. I'm getting reimbursed $150, and ended up paying $265 for the 12 month subscription, making the $22 a month turn into a very reasonable $9 a month for 1 year. The subscription model works well with that kind of yearly reimbursement, versus the purchase of a $750 watch and only getting the single $150 reimbursement. As long as it's comparable to the fitbit, that's good with me.

  • @ivananelovic3425
    @ivananelovic3425 Рік тому +1

    Hvala!

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! 🙏

    • @ivananelovic3425
      @ivananelovic3425 Рік тому

      @@DesFit thank you for the detailed review, really helped me understand the product and decide that in the end, it's not exactly appropriate for me.

  • @raidthanfl
    @raidthanfl Рік тому +1

    Night shift nurse here. I work out a lot, but have shitty sleep. Just ordered this. Hope it can help me

  • @ricktatum
    @ricktatum 2 роки тому

    thank you

  • @Haider1236
    @Haider1236 2 роки тому

    Amazing video. Could you do a review on the xiamoi S1 active? Would love to see that.

  • @hercegmario8679
    @hercegmario8679 2 роки тому +5

    So I have Garmin Fenix 6x Pro and I'm looking for exactly something like whoop. Something to track my sleep (Fenix is uncomfortable to sleep with), give additional health info, status, recovery (that I can compare to Fenix) etc. Just a simple strap not a watch with a screen. I did some research and it also appears in this great review as well that Whoop is something like a Beats By Dre (who knows will know what I meant) so my question is there any alternative to Whoop or that's the best we got?

  • @matrhein
    @matrhein 2 роки тому +5

    Out of curiosity and since it was worth a Desfit review spot, I casually checked the pricing of this piece of tech. Are they nuts? Anyone who is not depending on optimal performance and the features, feedback- app stuff, AND community is likely to be repelled by the price tag. Suddenly my Fenix 7 seems a much cheaper investment with ongoing development, body battery, and an actual frigging smartwatch with a screen on my wrist. Not to mention the better wrist HR, which is the base for all the fancy calculations...

  • @Mr767267
    @Mr767267 4 місяці тому

    Great review. I don't prefer the subscription based model but I guess it works for sport professionals.

  • @mikeberkey
    @mikeberkey 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  6 місяців тому

      Thanks, Mike!

  • @emthomas10
    @emthomas10 3 місяці тому

    Definitely getting one of these since it’s HSA eligible!

  • @SilatGayongTiger
    @SilatGayongTiger Рік тому +1

    whoop has the best support service.

  • @dspeers11
    @dspeers11 2 роки тому +6

    i did a serious dive and compared a whoop 3 for 18 months, against Garmin instinct solar, oura ring and apple watch. i kept the apple watch because insurance paid and it seemed more accurate than all the others. i liked the body battery with garmin but it seemed to me that the oura ring was better with recovery info and sleep. garmin was more hit and miss even though i loved the instinct in general. oura was much more consistent for sleep than the others. whoop just seemed to miss with heart rate and that messed with hrv/recovery. i decided against trying whoop 4. oura and apple are plenty.

  • @brandonspence396
    @brandonspence396 Рік тому

    Love the review, made me consider the opportunity cost of getting this device. Thank you for being very informative!
    Might consider grabbing this as I prefer the low profile data collection on the bicep. Does anyone else have any alternatives they know of that can meet this?

  • @mariusmarius4832
    @mariusmarius4832 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video,very well presented, product certainly not worth it for the price. Good honest review.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  4 місяці тому

      Thank you!

  • @RC-gd7nt
    @RC-gd7nt 4 місяці тому

    I’m getting one for my 47th bday in a few weeks and can’t wait! I guess that’s when you know you’re getting old 😂

  • @thesmartsnake
    @thesmartsnake 2 роки тому

    Wonderful video! I have whoop for a week now! I have had a Fenix 6x solar for the past 2 years now! I wanted to upgrade to the 7 but said let me try something else. from my 1 week's use of whoop I just think it completes my Garmin in the recovery part!
    also, HR readings are a 1 beat difference between my F6 and whoop 4.0. I like that whoop detects naps. I like the sleep part of it. Garmin's body battery is good sometimes but I still like the part where whoop tells you to go to sleep at a particular time!

  • @Delta1296pt2
    @Delta1296pt2 Рік тому

    That subscription kills it for me

  • @wars1ck
    @wars1ck 5 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot for taking the time to make this review, you put a lot of effort into it and it really shows! I did have one question about the subscription I'm not sure if you know, what happens if you subscribe for one month and don't like the watch. Can you just cancel and keep the device? Or do you need to send it back? Thanks!

    • @BluntBlowinn
      @BluntBlowinn 5 місяців тому

      u can send it back within the 30 days but if you decide to keep it for even one month you have to commit to 12 months with whoop. im just now finding that out 6 months later bc i want to switch. dont do it.

  • @bikeinmotion
    @bikeinmotion 2 роки тому +2

    10 bucks a month and I might consider it. Also it would be nice if it would be as good as my polar OH1 / verity sense so I could replace it. But since it's not as good as the polar (so I have to keep wearing the polar for good data) and way too expensive it's just not worth it. Make it as expensive as my Trainingpeaks subscription and we're talking :)

  • @thewildman4300
    @thewildman4300 2 роки тому +2

    any chance you could compare athletic to whoop? I love the apple watch and have tried both the whoop and athlytic and see that the numbers i get are close enough for me to not want to pay for the whoop.

  • @jhupiterz
    @jhupiterz Рік тому

    Hi! Thanks for the in-depth review! How did you get access to the data in order to plot those graphs comparing several sensors?

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  Рік тому

      Via the Strava export/sync. Thanks!

  • @mdbourne
    @mdbourne 2 роки тому +6

    Desfit just so you know, they say you get a free new device when released, but this is rarely true. They make you recommit for another 2 years to do so. I had a few friends that had the 3 and were already subscribers. But to get the 4, they had to recommit and pay varying fees. My one friend had to commit to a new subscription and pay like $80.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +1

      Doesn’t necessarily seem surprising. Appreciate you sharing!

  • @cryodrakon
    @cryodrakon 2 роки тому

    Can you make a review abt the withings scan watch? It looks nice, but I would be interested in the accuracy! :)

  • @jexxy1806
    @jexxy1806 2 роки тому +4

    Love the product, Can't get behind the GIANT monthly cost to use it.
    If whoop wants to be taken seriously they should sell this device for
    $100-$150 and remove the monthly subscription or lower it to under $5.

  • @patrickorourke152
    @patrickorourke152 Місяць тому +1

    Love your videos your my go to man when I am looking at fitness tech thank you so much for this review it’s a no for me to the whoop

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  Місяць тому +1

      Happy to help and thanks for tuning in!

    • @patrickorourke152
      @patrickorourke152 Місяць тому

      @@DesFit your honest and in depth reviews just help so much 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

  • @4242brvrdbd
    @4242brvrdbd 6 місяців тому

    Very helpful! Huge turn off that it drops out of HR tracking periodically.. my Apple Watch is doing the same thing, (se gen2) so I’m on the market…
    Also I see the strain / recovery model on Strava as well, and I can’t decide if I like it or not.. maybe because it seems so hard to improve the “effort”score.

  • @mikenowitzki6732
    @mikenowitzki6732 2 роки тому

    Do you know if you’re able to do a pause on the whoop monthly sub, as I train around 6 months out of the year for Triathalon and it wouldn’t be that useful for me the other half year. Thanks!

  • @iangrant3615
    @iangrant3615 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video. I really like the concept and hope the hardware/algorithm issues can be ironed out over time, but for me what made me choose a Garmin device instead is the cost over time. I am someone who uses a device until it breaks/becomes obsolete. The idea of having to keep paying hundreds of dollars a year, forever, to keep capturing and accessing my own data doesn't sit well with me. Yes, Whoop send you new hardware every couple of years but I wouldn't buy a new Garmin watch every 2 years so it's 400 for a Garmin to capture and access decent data for many years to come vs 300 every year and when I stop paying the hardware is unusable/data no longer available. It feels somewhat like a pyramid scheme in its model of offering free months for each referral too.

    • @chrisrodriguez1789
      @chrisrodriguez1789 2 роки тому

      but isnt wearing a huge garmin watch to bed annoying ?

    • @iangrant3615
      @iangrant3615 2 роки тому

      @@chrisrodriguez1789 I have the Garmin Venu 2S which is small and very comfortable and still has the same functionality as larger Garmins.

  • @user-qv7rw7dq1d
    @user-qv7rw7dq1d Рік тому +13

    I love the fact that I can wear a whoop on my wrist with a skin colored strap and no one can tell I'm wearing anything from a distance. Leaves my dominant wrist free for a nice watch.
    I hate from other products that for me to get any tracking AT ALL I have to wear some gaudy type of sports watch or slim screen watch replacement that really takes the place of a regular watch.
    In other words, you can't be into nice watches and be into fitness at the same time.
    Whoop gets my money because I can still wear any watch I want and not look like douche wearing a mechanical watch on one wrist and digital sports fitness tracker on the other.

  • @Curvyllama
    @Curvyllama 2 роки тому

    Hi great review. Is this an ad or did they pay to you make this?

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому

      Nope, not a paid review what so ever.

  • @howiehirsch1733
    @howiehirsch1733 2 роки тому +2

    It seems to me that the Whoop device is functionally more like an Oura ring that’s worn on the wrist rather than a smartwatch. I was wondering how it’s features and accuracy compare with the Oura ring. I’d love to see you compare these two devices.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +2

      I'll see what I can do when Oura finally releases their new algorithms and functions (hopefully mid this year?) Thanks

  • @TheBrendNew
    @TheBrendNew Рік тому +1

    I don't think I can afford WHOOP, however I really like that it is a stylish band and not a "smart watch". Are there any cheaper alternatives that keep the style and also help with fitness and health?

  • @user-vr5cm1yw9h
    @user-vr5cm1yw9h Рік тому

    When using the bicep band try placing the sensor on the inside of your arm it might detect better HR maybe overall since the artery is right there

  • @ironcross1252
    @ironcross1252 2 роки тому

    I’d like a to hear a review on Morpheus by Joel Jamieson vs whoop. Not sure if they made any tweaks since a few years ago.

  • @aaronmeans8238
    @aaronmeans8238 8 місяців тому

    Great video! In regard to the battery pack charging issue… could it be that it stops at 99% intentionally to prevent you from overcharging the battery pack? Just a thought.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  8 місяців тому

      It would stop randomly at different percentages (30, 50, 65%…) Thanks!

  • @tedportnay4086
    @tedportnay4086 2 роки тому +26

    Great review. I was an early whoop adopter - started w 2.0 and then 3.0. Then moved over to the Garmin ecosystem.
    Would love to have seen a comparison of how sleeping tracking and readiness score (green, yellow, red) compared w Garmin’s sleep score and body battery.
    Thanks

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +11

      I have some comparison videos in the works. Thanks!

  • @sergiosalgado4783
    @sergiosalgado4783 8 місяців тому

    You also use a garmin watch... why´s that? I have a fenix 7 now.... but this whoop looks more accurate on HR , HVR measure? Would be nice to have some review about those difference! Nice video though! Cheers

  • @megiMove
    @megiMove 2 роки тому +1

    I just got mine. Very disappointed that i can't have it on my right arm where i have tattoos. The sensor doesn't work if you have tattoos. So i have to use my garmin on my right since it has no problem getting a reading. Hope they will fix it in the future

  • @libertyisparamount1443
    @libertyisparamount1443 2 роки тому

    Great review, I am more interested in the sleep tracking. The bottom line is if you don't want a google product, you are stuck with Oura.

  • @BaoNguyen-ew8pj
    @BaoNguyen-ew8pj 2 роки тому

    Hi, I want to have my fav watch on, not any other smartwatches or smart bands, what do you guys have to recommend for me, other than the whoop (obviously Whoop is too expensive, you have to pay it first but not monthly).

  • @daveallenwex1962
    @daveallenwex1962 9 місяців тому

    Hi Des .. I noticed that you use a bicep band.
    Recently I had a warm/hotish (little uncomfortable under the arm above ribcage) device after I removed the battery pack from charging it.
    The battery was charged properly and only in place for enough time to charge it full and on removal it was noticeably hot that disappeared to warm quickly enough after that.
    I’ve reported it to Whoop a week today and they said they would send a replacement battery and device but the tracking link doesn’t work and the replacement didn’t arrive.
    As you know data collection is the purpose of the device and removal or absence breaks the chain and isn’t ideal after three years of use.
    Is this a problem that you have come accross ?
    Obviously under the arm is warmer than the wrist and is more likely to be covered up except perhaps in sleep.
    For me I would have thought such an occurrence would be flagged as a priority by Whoop but looks like it’s same as any other issue.
    I’m a big fan of Whoop and I really wonder is non wrist band or clothing use a bit of a temporary location solution where you have to move it back to the wrist.
    Just an interesting development that I think I need independent information on as I posed these questions to Whoop without reply.
    I’m based in Ireland and all sort is by email online with a ticket number and wait for reply type support.
    Keep up the good work and thanks in advance for any feedback.

  • @michaelrankins717
    @michaelrankins717 2 роки тому +3

    I tried WHOOP and it did not work for me. It would randomly say my heart was racing at 215+ while standing still or walking to my car. I would compare the data with the data from my Fenix 5 to ensure I wasn’t dying and my Fenix was reading heart rate 78ish. This happened almost every other week. I let WHOOP know and I was told the shape of my wrist would make it impossible to be able to use the WHOOP. Hmmm.. OK 👌🏾. I sent the band back. Got an Apple Watch series 7 and have not had an issue with heart rate readings.

  • @michaelpadilla141
    @michaelpadilla141 2 роки тому +4

    The price + inability to connect to a much more accurate chest strap for HR measurement was the reason I cancelled my Whoop subscription after trying it out for a few months. Garmin is much better, although the downside there is that the presentation of the data needs to be improved. Nevertheless, Whoop (and Oura) are both massively overpriced for what you're getting, aesthetics and hype aside. I'm now using the Garmin Forerunner 745 with a heart strap and find it great for tracking and assessing my workouts (running, weights, crossfit-like hiit) and sleep.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for sharing your experience. Definitely agree on quite a few points.

    • @michaelpadilla141
      @michaelpadilla141 2 роки тому +2

      @@DesFit Thanks for the comment. I love your reviews...thorough and well produced.

    • @michaelpadilla141
      @michaelpadilla141 2 роки тому +1

      Incidentally, one additional point on Whoop vs Garmin...with Garmin, you have the ability to grow within the same ecosystem to the world of cycling power meters, swimming tracking (underwater HR straps) etc. With Whoop, you're forever stuck where you are and would have to move to a completely new system should your training ever evolve.
      I got my Garmin Forerunner 745 used, but in mint condition, on EBay for about $250.

    • @DesFit
      @DesFit  2 роки тому +3

      Another great point you bring up regarding the ecosystem 👍 Thanks!

  • @xFersureMatt
    @xFersureMatt 20 днів тому

    I just like the way it looks. I dont care about the fitness features.. i wish i could find a regular band look so slick

  • @ludwigrosiclair8203
    @ludwigrosiclair8203 Рік тому

    I actually like that it just looks like a wrist band because I miss wearing nice watches

  • @RohitSharma-yr7li
    @RohitSharma-yr7li 2 роки тому +2

    The accuracy of the whoop band is still problematic - so much so, that I probably will not renew my yearly subscription. I have, however, found an easy hack for precise accuracy, especially while running, which is the least accurate of the three sports I do: swimming, cycling, and running.
    I place the rubber band designed to be worn over the whoop band while swimming, to any time I work out. And the hr data is almost exactly matching my chest strap.
    Overall, I don’t feel the price justifies the value here anymore. Thanks for your video.

  • @vittoriolabarbera3881
    @vittoriolabarbera3881 2 місяці тому

    Could you do a review of the latest whoop 4 firmware update? I love your content btw! ❤

  • @captaincommodore8901
    @captaincommodore8901 Рік тому

    I think there is a big problem with HRV baseline. If for example you get the device and start off a little sick without noticing it, the baseline the device will calculate is ultimately wrong. Thus the whole recovery score could be quite off.

  • @jonathanberent3182
    @jonathanberent3182 10 місяців тому

    Would be curious what you think of a concept that does something similar, but for the brain / mind - strain, recovery rest.

  • @DrewPeabawls
    @DrewPeabawls 3 місяці тому

    5:38 it’s based on a RPE scale which intended to associate effort with heart rate. So a 6 is a no effort since most people’s resting heart rate is 60. 21 is the max since for most people 210 heartbeat is an all out max rate. Hopefully this helps anyone in the future.

  • @bh9262
    @bh9262 Рік тому

    I wish you could track your blood sugar levels with Whoop, or a modified version of Whoop. That would be a nice all-in-one health tracker.

    • @lewdude2k8
      @lewdude2k8 10 місяців тому

      No chance at the moment unfortunately as good as it would be. Need CGM or needle probably take years for an accurate reading from a watch for blood sugar. If whoop pull that off in the 5.0 then it will be the biggest selling watch of all time probably even overtaking Apple Watch sales

  • @alfredkay3210
    @alfredkay3210 9 місяців тому

    I saw it with one of those famous soccer players, he uses it to check his training level and recovering time and others as well.
    What I want to know is, if there is a sport watch that can perform the same as whoop

  • @kacperjedlinski2039
    @kacperjedlinski2039 4 місяці тому +1

    Can you connect Garmin/ Strava apps to whoop app?

  • @scottleggejr
    @scottleggejr 11 місяців тому

    I bought it when my fitbit sense died and there's no real repair support for their flagship devices. Whoop's support for the hw is included in the sub so I am using a whoop for fitness/sleep and a smartwatch for smart watch stuff which I take off when I go maniac mode. I'd like to hear about those who have broken a screen on the garmin and what that repair process looks like.

  • @fayerosenthal2399
    @fayerosenthal2399 Рік тому

    Grt helpful vid thanks! Do u know if all the other makes of wearables check oxgen,heart, sleeo variations,temp & stress levels etc...? Im only needing a wearable to monitor my stats.
    The reason being im disabled with chronic illness & am wrkng with a new clinicuan/fdp.Hes advised me to get a whoop so he can see & chk my readings 24/7.But i dont want the subscrp,i think its expensive 4 what it is,id much rather have a wearable to keep
    Alot hav said whoops inaccurate too.Wondering if id be better off with a fitbit,garmin,huawei or to just get an apple watch & a 2nd hand iphone? I dont understand why none of these comps do a basic body stats wearable without all the sports stuff 4 disabled people or just minimal sports,focusing on stats more.Cos itd be a really helpful tool,espesh when wrkng with a clinician/fdp.Thanks 4 ur help in advance.