Mike Nelson he def did lmao he said something along the lines of, “I’m scared to tell people because I’ve been rejected in the past because of it”. Even when he was trying to explain it to her he said this.
He was just getting mad because he knew he was in the wrong for not telling her. I get the fustration of having to open up to people about sexuality every relationship you have, but its still important.
@@ucagetit agreed he was mad at himself THEN he’s so he tried picking a fight with her and that was so grimmy . He’s not bi he’s GAY and I peeped the hate he has for black woman (woman like you ) no man you want to be THAT WOMAN
Carlton, you are too self-conscious and the only person that was feeling discomfort about your sexual fluidity is yourself. When Diamond wanted to communicate, you acted like a child and get all defensive. She wanted to understand, why were you not honest in the first place and time to digest, learn more about where this relationship is going. Grow up
Agreed. I think his approach was wrong keeping that information might make people pull away but that is a good thing it saves him from getting in too deep and getting hurt too
@@evertonpereira14 she doubted his feelings, because he wasn't fully open and honest with her. He literally asked her to marry him, but couldn't be open about who he is. Honesty was the issue, not his bisexuality.
The scene in the hotel with him saying “your lucky your pretty or else I would have punched you a long time ago”, I was like wtf?? Red flags! When he had a mental breakdown at the pool at night and threw his hat. She was nothing but respectful and he was the most toxic person I’ve ever seen who plays like a toxic victim. What a nut case! The dude needs a therapist, not a wife! To top it all off, when she leaves she cry’s…and he pops champion like it was victory…
RIGHT! I absolutely hated that scene in the hotel room between the two of them. The daddy hat, his aggressive commentary. it felt more like toxic friends than lovers. every time he was on screen i felt like he was overcompensating and trying to seem more masculine than he actually is. so uncomfortable.
Right! There’s something wrong with him. It’s as if he was trying to be an ass and push her away so he won’t have to feel abandoned after she finds out he’s been with men. And by the way, I don’t get the feeling it was 1 or 2 guys or he wouldn’t have even told her. He told her because he knew the MOMENT she had access to each other’s social media she was going to find out. All his social media os probably 100% of him with dudes.
Carlton: “You’d rather a man lie to you about who he’s been with in the past?”. Boy, that’s the whole point she mad. Cause you weren’t honest from the beginning. smh
@@Eric-ui3nk He didnt bring it you BEFORE proposing ....they had nothing but time to talk about whatever and deliberately waited until she caught feelings for him and was going to marry him to tell her....
I don’t like how he threw out the stereotypical comments that he knows black women always get. He wanted to make her feel as insignificant as he’s making himself feel. For example he said “that’s why I don’t fool with bitches like you” (black girls) then he made a remark towards her wig. She never said a single degrading thing towards him and she came there fully willing to get past the fact that he’s bisexual. I just don’t get him
YES! That part! This man go to Mexico MAD disrespectful, hyper-masculine af, and throwing mad disrespectful comments like “girls like you...”, “get off the stripper pole...”, and talking her “attitude”. He seems to have hurt about a LOT of things.
@@wedsarta4345 I mean the original commenter when they said he was talking about black girls when he said “bitches like you” as if he was a racist. I don’t think you can tell whether he was talking about race
She dodged a bullet for sure. The way he flipped it all on her and so quickly...man that was scary AF. Girl, you are so lucky that he lost it then and there. Going down the aisle with this man would have brought misery.
Why does it matter? If you love someone you shouldn’t care about whether they’ve had sex with penises or vaginas before. He was insecure and nervous and she was not supportive. She should love him and appreciate that he is attracted to her and not pay attention to who he’s had sex with in the past.
@@kylebolton8147 It does matter. A person has the right to know exactly who they are getting involved with. Love is great, but honesty plays a huge part in a relationship. How would you feel if months into what you thought was a serious relationship and you found out your significant other was into the opposite sex? Not everybody is ok with that. You can't fault her feeling the way she did. He should have been upfront early on. He was wrong and he knew it.
He is sooo dumb for going off on her. She literally was gonna work things out with him despite his bisexuality and he called her a bitch and ruined everything. Its a good thing he snapped though. Cause he showed her his true colors before they made things official.
@@silkdurag2905 yes she was. I just seen the episode on netflix. She said "I think I wanna talk to him cause I care and I love Carlton. I really do." Had he handled it better she would've given him another chance but he ruined it
he clearly has issues with himself because he totally flipped out and completely missed what she was trying to say..he’s a child, a HURT child. and i honestly feel bad for him but yeah he should’ve told her earlier..
Diamond was trying to handle everything maturely in attempts to understand Carlton. I honestly felt bad for Diamond, Carlton was just plain disrespectful and trying turn the situation on her cause HE KNEW HE WAS WRONG FOR WAITING *AFTER* THE PROPOSAL, TO TELL HER HE WAS BISEXUAL.
No, she handled it poorly the fact that it had to be a conservation was an issue. She clearly was uncomfortable with it qhen it really shouldn't matter.
@@imwaitintostrike it shouldn't matter??? Everyone has preferences. She has the right to choose if she wants to be with someone bisexual. That's not wrong.
Carlton projected his own insecurities about his sexuality. His sexuality bothers him and when someone isn’t immediately all for it, he feels like they’re against him. All the things that he tells himself are the things he thought Diamond was feeling and he got defensive. Get some healing, my beautiful, black brother.
@@monet4143 yes . Your comment was amazing I hate how he's getting bashed i feel like at first he was trying but I felt her judgements which I understand on her part but still.. he felt it to and immediately flipped it
@@maxx7325 As a bisexual, there's nothing wrong with it. But its a big part of who I am. I wouldn't wait that long to tell my partner about my sexuality, if I was a divorcee, if I had kids etc.
Think about it though; he is uncomfortable with being feminine. He would prefer to be truly masculine. Which man in his right mind wants to be effeminate under a patriarchal society? Masculine energy is honored over feminine, which is why gay men are berated over lesbian women. I think he would rather be strong and masculine rather than a bitchy male who knows how to "read" due to his high levels of estrogen. No man truly wants that and other men do not respect it, and we know beta men care what the alphas think. He can't help who he is, and he clearly is uncomfortable with it.
Carlton: Other girls never had a problem with my bisexuality. Diamond: Then why didn’t you tell me? Carlton: Because I didn’t want you to have a problem with it. Me: 😗
yeh clearly your not getting what he's saying, the other girls didnt have a problem about it when they found out about it into the relationship. aka, diamond also would've found out eventually and it wouldn't have been a big deal either was carltons expectation. The fact that she made it a big deal made him defensive.
Carleton is the ultimate example of gaslighting - Diamond made it clear (and rightfully so) that she wanted the TRUTH from the beginning. He omitted information even *he admitted* he was intentionally withholding, and now he’s twisting it around to ‘she would rather someone lie to her’ 🤔 - and when his inflated self worth and ego couldn’t explain his lack of 100% transparency, he started attacking her looks / wig, etc …. Carlton has serious, deep issues and insecurities he needs to address on his own before pursuing a relationship and dragging the other person down.
He doesn't have an inflated self worth he has a low one which made him defensive and over reactive ...he doesn't accept himself so therefore he thinks nobody else does!
I usually don't watch these drama show but got bored and once I saw this episode I had to look up UA-cam when I saw these couples and how things played out if and anyone agreed that this guy is in the wrong here 🤦🏻♀️
Diamond was my fave. She genuinely deserved better And she was trying to talk to him. She was trying to genuinely talk to him and understand him and he randomly started harrassing her
I’m surprised how many supporters he has for being openly bisexual and she was harassed by fans and him! He was not openly bisexual or proud at all until after this show. He clearly set her up by proposing first; so disrespectful to not consider her reaction first, just rushed to tie her down so if she rejected him she would look like a monster. She wasn’t even going to leave him, she was just processing even though I’m sure this was already causing trust issues in her mind. And then he thinks they can rekindle a friendship even after how he disrespected a beautiful woman! No well raised man talks to any woman like that! He is posting all about it still, a total psycho. She dodged a bullet but I’m just disappointed how people are so blinded by his victim narrative.
It's extreme woke culture. Your character doesn't matter if you're from a victim group. Noone has a problem with Carlton's bisexuality. They have a problem with him keeping it a secret till after the engagement then getting defensive when she wants to talk about it. He's clearly got some open wounds he needs to heal first.
carlton, if your insecure abt being bisexual just say that. diamond never said she didn't support you....she just wanted honesty. anyone who brings up being bi after a proposal is shady, she has a right to be reconsidering the whole engagement.
It's amazing how he played the victim here. This dude withheld important information from her then became defensive and aggressive when she just wanted to discuss why he would do such a thing. He KNEW him being bisexual was important to mention to someone you're trying to get into a relationship with then during the conversation with her, he pretended it wasn't. She was kind, gentle, respectful only for him to call her out her name then he had the audacity to throw out his self hate for black women. If you're not into black women and believe we're stereotypical like Amerikkka claim we are, by all means------> leave us alone.
4 роки тому+8
The nerve of him to call her ignorant and stereotypical when that's exactly how he was acting himself. She kept calm, cool, and collected.
EXACTLY imagine it was 2 girls dating and diamond was comfortable letting caroltin go around guys, then when "she" wants to tell her "she's" bi, diamond is gonna freak out? You dont know what caroltin could've been doing with the guys who were "her" "friends"(btw the story i just had happened on 90 day fiance)
Diamond!!! We love you! He is so full of himself. You would more than likely accepted him but he went about it all wrong, not humbly, without any concern for the relationship. You are better off.
The atmosphere changed the night before, he was already preparing for this mess of a conversation. Thank God, she got to see his true self now. I'm sorry that she experienced this after calmly sharing her feelings, even though he made that difficult. He needs to do better, no one deserves that treatment. Leave her wig alone, it has nothing to do with this, yoh Carlton 😕
And later in the confessional saying she proved herself as "stereotypical"? Or the awkward scene exactly before that when he was acting off and was saying that she's lucky she looks good or else he would've punched her immediately? He was so caught up in think she wouldn't accept him for his sexuality that he wasn't hearing what she was saying.
Someone should make a video of all the tiene Carlton said he was rejected and abandoned because of his past, and sexuality followed with this clip where he stated no one NO ONE has ever had an issue with it except Diomand. Really Carlton? How you twisted all this around on Diamond was pretty disgusting.
@@manonsciamama8627 he’s not bi. He’s gay. You can tell by the way he talks to her. He hasn’t accepted that he’s gay. He thinks that she’s not accepting of him but she clearly sees that he doesn’t really like women. He wants to like women, but he doesn’t.
@@manonsciamama8627 what stereotype did I use? He’s gay. He’s not bi. There’s nothing wrong with being bi. But the way he blew up on her when she tried to be understanding screams that he hasn’t accepted that he doesn’t like women. He doesn’t sound like he wants to marry a woman because he likes them. He sounds like he wants to marry a woman because that’s what hes “supposed to do.” He’s gonna cause himself to be very unhappy
Does he realize he contradicted himself by saying that he's disclosed this information too early and been called all types of names but then says that no one has ever had an issue with it? How does that work? And he said it in the very next sentence. Thats too funny.
He confused af,and the fact that he tried to play the victim,the nerve of it all. Diamond dodged a huge bullet,Carlton needs therapy and he needs to grow the f up.
Diamond seems like such a good, kind and understanding soul. And SUPER strong because she stood up for herself and walked away from that messed up, manipulative bag of poop. That dude needs a huge mirror and tons of therapy…like ECT. Calling her a B when HE’s the punk a$$ B.
1. Everyone should open up about their sexuality before getting engaged. Yeah maybe it's true that he doesn't want to reveal it from the very beginning, but he should've obviously told her before proposing. 2. He only let's himself express feelings. It's true that revealing his sexuality was a sensitive topic for him, but this means that it's also a sensitive topic for his partner. Diamond had to express her feelings, because everyone would have feelings after hearing their fiancé's fear and worry, and she was going to express her feelings to him in a communicative and calm way. And to this, he decided to take any question along the lines of "but why" as an aggression. If he wanted to be respected with his feelings, he should've shown the effort to understand the other mutually. 3. He starts coming up with random insults of her. While he wishes the other to right away say "it's fine" about his worry, he doesn't show the least respect for potential insecurities or worries of others. Perhaps calling each other with swear words might have made sense since they were in a fight, but Carlton just goes nonstop to make comments that personally attack Diamond. Diamond has the dignity and respect to not point out a single rude comment that might personally attack him, even when Carlton is clearly not showing any respect for her. I think it was the attitude that was his problem, not the actual fact that he was bisexual. Yeah maybe it wouldn't have worked out even if he had been a respectful, non-egotistic person. But with that attitude and disrespect towards someone, he himself messed up this whole conversation.
Definitely funny how he mentioned that he doesn't care about what he sees cause what matters is the inside and then boom "watch your wig cause it's fallin' off..." he's so silly and childish oh and selfish. What an idiot 😂😂😂 how was HE betrayed again???
He says he is a preacher’s kid...... He doesn’t act anything like a loving Christian. 😭😭😭 He was very hurtful and judging Diamond. She didn’t even get to say everything she was feeling. He kept interrupting her and then started yelling.
@@SheraLawton I don't think anyone thinks he's a Christian, but you'd think that he'd pick up some values from the religion from being a pastor's child.
Love how he tried to flip the script of "its never been an issue with other people" but if that was true then why has he mentioned numerous times that it HAS been am issue in the past. He's a narcissist and truth be told was gaslighting her by trying to make it seem that she's unaccepting of his sexuality when the true issue is his dishonesty and apathy towards her feelings.
Explain the hate. Never watched the show but from this clip and as a gay guy, I felt sympathetic for his plight. I understand I don't have the full context though of what came before but her reaction pissed me off. And she basically assaulted him and then tried to throw something later but lacked th3 upper body strength that I can only imagine was being used to support the weight of that lopsided wig. See there I go again.
@@InnerRise Basically, people hate on him because he didn't disclose to her before the proposal that he had sexual relations with men in the past. And then he got angry at her when she got angry at him for doing that.
@@real_john_doe oh then it's exactly what it looks like and he has no obligation to share that. She definitely didn't have a right to be mad. Hasn't she had relations with me in the past. People thinking they're obligated to gay people's info is Klaun-ish behaviour.
@@InnerRise Lol um...many women certainly care and would have an issue if they knew a guy had past relationships with other men/or if he's bisexual. Not only is that a deal breaker for many, but to not disclose until proposing to someone is wrong. I think she handled it gracefully until he acted like a fool.
Carlton knew what he was doing. He wanted airtime and he got it....he wasn't there for a real "relationship" LOL....they were talking behind a damn wall...he didnt even have to face her. There is NO reason why he couldn't have told her that he was bisexual prior to engagement. For those who are saying "why does it matter?" so you dont think you have the right to know your mate's sexuality PRIOR to standing before God and whoever else and saying vows to them? Interesting....
Also, notice how he starts acting catty and commenting about her wig and such, simply because she didn’t want to date a bisexual man! Like wtf, he never liked her to begin with, he just wanted to be MARRIED to a woman as he said earlier because they are “nurturing” he just wants her FREE LABOR AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT!!
F Carlton. Diamond is my favorite from S1, she's a sweetheart. She's mature, empathetic, and kind. I love her in the second reunion (spoiler) for jumping into a fight that wasn't hers, to defend LC against Amber. She's a friend and woman who's worth her weight in gold.
🧐 Carlton was in the wrong. Diamond wasn't judgemental in any way. All she wanted was honesty and a conversation, but Carlton couldn't see past his own insecurities and placed blame at Diamonds feet unjustly. He let his own fear ruin his relationship with a beautiful, strong woman. He contradicted himself numerous times and refused to take responsibility for his deception. Diamond is a true woman, but Carlton is not yet a man. He has a LOT of growing up to do.
Diamond handled herself with class the whole time untill this two face no good for nothing man started attacking her and missed the whole point Diamond was trying to convey... Then he had the audacity to throw “the stereotype” theory about black women!!! Shameless black man!!! He wasn’t brought up good, says a lot about him as a black man. Look at how crazy some of these white women were acting towards their white men! Did you hear any of them white men calling any of them “bitches”, some black men need to learn from some white men, period
Carlton has some deep rooted issues within himself and never should have been on the show in the first place. He wears masks and the dark aggressive side to him came out blasting. He’s borderline abusive. Diamond is better off. Hopefully Carlton realizes one day he needs therapy to work through his problems.
Just recently saw this episode and I saw nothing of her having a problem with his sexuality but felt hurt that he couldn’t talk to her or trust her to tell her that before they met.😢
Carlton is not ready to love someone. He needs to love himself first. He hates who he is. He feels dirty about it. I can tell because he hides it until he thinks he won’t be rejected. At the same time I feel like this was a discussion that needed to be dealt with at the moment it started. Don’t wait for next day. But that’s my opinion. I feel really bad for Carlton and her. I hope Carlton can find peace.
This dude is delusional and came on the show to make it all about him. He was not honest point blank period. In the beginning relationships shouldn't be this complicated this is exactly why you don't marry someone in 4 days because you don't truly know a person.
Y’all this was Cynthia’s assistant from RHOA season 5. He was the one who was trying to put Kenya out of the Bailey Agency when she was being rude to the models 😂😂😂
I think he’s more gay then bisexual She dodged a serious bullet Diamond no real man whatever insult of woman about her hair like that she is obviously gay. We will find true love diamond. ! You are beautiful, intelligent woman!
He proposes, she says yes, and he springs the bisexuality secret on her after the fact? Come on, drama queen, IT'S ON YOU! You're in the absolutely wrong. Diamond, you deserve so much better, but better to fight now before the disastrous wedding than to find out after the wedding You dodged a big bullet. But thank God things turned out the way it did, although ugly, but it saved you from a few years of pain and drama for sure.
His logic is so badly flawed and there are so many people like him that have this toxic mentality. No one needs to accept you and she did. She just wanted to be told from day one which is what she and everyone else deserves. This whole “I’m not telling someone that I’m LGBTQ+ because of what might happen” logic is flawed, problematic and deceptive. Why would you want to be with someone who doesn’t accept you from day one??
I hate the comments. Yes he should've been honest up front but he's been loving this way for so long, people like him have gotten so much hate or judgement. She's so hateful and judgemental
Thank you finally someone who sees it like I do . Like I mean I’m not going to lie, Colton is kind of a dick so I don’t really like him honestly but I can’t help but kind be on his side . Now his I agree he should have actually sat down and tried talking to Diamond instead of getting all pissy but at the same time in the long run why would she have a problem with his sexuality in the first place? Her and other people trying to play it with the fact the he wasn’t honest with her from the start but I can’t help but feel but Diamond was only saying that because she knew this was going to end up on tv and she didn’t want the world to know she was homophobic/biphobic 🤷🏻♀️
Nope! The issue is how he handled it. She was clearly willing to be with him. If he can get engaged to someone without disclosing a big of part of himself and worse off wanting her not to process things??? He is selfish A child A hurt child who will continue hurting others. Manipulation at it's finest. And love isn't enough. Where's the respect and trust!! To assume that she is bophobic, bfrfr
"no one has had an issue with it except you" i swear he mentioned in the show something about people not accepting him for his sexuality??
Exactly
He did. I’m pretty sure he said that people had rejected him for it?? Multiple times lol
DID HE?? If he did it was very subtle because it def wasn’t out there black and white 🤷🏼♂️
Mike Nelson he def did lmao he said something along the lines of, “I’m scared to tell people because I’ve been rejected in the past because of it”. Even when he was trying to explain it to her he said this.
He was just getting mad because he knew he was in the wrong for not telling her. I get the fustration of having to open up to people about sexuality every relationship you have, but its still important.
As soon as they had that passive aggressive banter in the hotel room, I knew it was going to be downhill from there
Same. I was like “What’s wrong with him?”
YES! I would have gotten a separate room after that
@@ucagetit agreed he was mad at himself THEN he’s so he tried picking a fight with her and that was so grimmy . He’s not bi he’s GAY and I peeped the hate he has for black woman (woman like you ) no man you want to be THAT WOMAN
@@mknight993he’s not gay
@@Wr1beatsoh yes he is!!!
Carlton, you are too self-conscious and the only person that was feeling discomfort about your sexual fluidity is yourself. When Diamond wanted to communicate, you acted like a child and get all defensive. She wanted to understand, why were you not honest in the first place and time to digest, learn more about where this relationship is going. Grow up
Preach🙏
Agreed. I think his approach was wrong keeping that information might make people pull away but that is a good thing it saves him from getting in too deep and getting hurt too
She didn't she doubt about he liking her because he told about being bi. That is really biphobic, she just assume he was gay.
@@evertonpereira14 no she literally didn’t she was willing to work it out with him and he got defensive and started degrading her
@@evertonpereira14 she doubted his feelings, because he wasn't fully open and honest with her. He literally asked her to marry him, but couldn't be open about who he is. Honesty was the issue, not his bisexuality.
The way he tried to flip this whole thing on her was a classic. 😂😂😂
He’s literally a kid
Love is Blind V2 s St. at 34 years old pretty sad! The type of men to NOT date! Not only that but he’s narcissistic
thats how they do it playing the victim...
he’s narcissistic i was in a situation like that..
Yeah she dodged a bullet!!! He showed a couple red flags and seemed kinda emotionally abusive and narcissistic.
The scene in the hotel with him saying “your lucky your pretty or else I would have punched you a long time ago”, I was like wtf?? Red flags! When he had a mental breakdown at the pool at night and threw his hat. She was nothing but respectful and he was the most toxic person I’ve ever seen who plays like a toxic victim. What a nut case! The dude needs a therapist, not a wife! To top it all off, when she leaves she cry’s…and he pops champion like it was victory…
that was a cringe moment when he tossed his hat. What a drama queen, quite hilarious at that. Diamond deserves better.
The dude has mental issues
Yes. What a 🍆
RIGHT! I absolutely hated that scene in the hotel room between the two of them. The daddy hat, his aggressive commentary. it felt more like toxic friends than lovers. every time he was on screen i felt like he was overcompensating and trying to seem more masculine than he actually is. so uncomfortable.
Right! There’s something wrong with him. It’s as if he was trying to be an ass and push her away so he won’t have to feel abandoned after she finds out he’s been with men.
And by the way, I don’t get the feeling it was 1 or 2 guys or he wouldn’t have even told her. He told her because he knew the MOMENT she had access to each other’s social media she was going to find out. All his social media os probably 100% of him with dudes.
Carlton: “You’d rather a man lie to you about who he’s been with in the past?”. Boy, that’s the whole point she mad. Cause you weren’t honest from the beginning. smh
😂🍿🍿
In all fairness, he did ultimately bring it up to Diamond. Maybe not as early as she would have liked, but he did tell her. He could chose not to.
Yea he shuda been told her that
@@Eric-ui3nk He didnt bring it you BEFORE proposing ....they had nothing but time to talk about whatever and deliberately waited until she caught feelings for him and was going to marry him to tell her....
The DELUSION
anyone else clock how diamond quoted beyonce's "don't hurt yourself"
Diamond was a real it's sad how things end but I hope she finds a good man who will treat her with the respect she deserve
Yes and it's kinda weird fr 😂
That was embarrassing
Awkward n cringe 😬
I loved it. From time to time I come here just to hear her say that.
I don’t like how he threw out the stereotypical comments that he knows black women always get. He wanted to make her feel as insignificant as he’s making himself feel. For example he said “that’s why I don’t fool with bitches like you” (black girls) then he made a remark towards her wig. She never said a single degrading thing towards him and she came there fully willing to get past the fact that he’s bisexual. I just don’t get him
YES! That part! This man go to Mexico MAD disrespectful, hyper-masculine af, and throwing mad disrespectful comments like “girls like you...”, “get off the stripper pole...”, and talking her “attitude”. He seems to have hurt about a LOT of things.
most black men are like this sadly. tables turn on him because HE’S actually the one that fits the stereotype. I’ve met way too many like this
There’s no way you can tell that he was talking about black women. He could’ve meant homophobic or crazy
@@DaBoss-lj8pn he was talking about black men.
@@wedsarta4345 I mean the original commenter when they said he was talking about black girls when he said “bitches like you” as if he was a racist. I don’t think you can tell whether he was talking about race
She dodged a bullet for sure. The way he flipped it all on her and so quickly...man that was scary AF. Girl, you are so lucky that he lost it then and there. Going down the aisle with this man would have brought misery.
Carlton has been off from the beginning. How you not tell someone you are bisexual till after the engagement. Shady af
datEvil Elf yeah I agree, he was pretty self righteous from the beginning, like it was resulted from the judgement in the past
Why does it matter? If you love someone you shouldn’t care about whether they’ve had sex with penises or vaginas before. He was insecure and nervous and she was not supportive. She should love him and appreciate that he is attracted to her and not pay attention to who he’s had sex with in the past.
@@kylebolton8147 Actually you are allowed to either care or not care. You have every right to choose.
I thought he came for men honestly
@@kylebolton8147 It does matter. A person has the right to know exactly who they are getting involved with. Love is great, but honesty plays a huge part in a relationship. How would you feel if months into what you thought was a serious relationship and you found out your significant other was into the opposite sex? Not everybody is ok with that. You can't fault her feeling the way she did. He should have been upfront early on. He was wrong and he knew it.
He is sooo dumb for going off on her. She literally was gonna work things out with him despite his bisexuality and he called her a bitch and ruined everything. Its a good thing he snapped though. Cause he showed her his true colors before they made things official.
unlucky for me it was too late and I was called the same thing...
Lol no she wasn’t
@@silkdurag2905 yes she was. I just seen the episode on netflix. She said "I think I wanna talk to him cause I care and I love Carlton. I really do." Had he handled it better she would've given him another chance but he ruined it
"despite his bisexuality" ......
His behavior was toxic
Diamond, girl you had a lucky escape 😰
Yes🥰
Seriously, never date anyone like this guy, because chances are you are going to be mother, wife, side-chick and therapist to that person.
She was a c unt, he didn't have to say Jack shit you utter moron
nah she was trashy as hell in her response. Neither are good.
I strongly agree with this comment!!!
She deserves a REAL MAN !
He was not hearing her heart, which her heart was quite valid. Ugh, it was so unfortunate and sad to watch.
Unfortunate
he clearly has issues with himself because he totally flipped out and completely missed what she was trying to say..he’s a child, a HURT child. and i honestly feel bad for him but yeah he should’ve told her earlier..
Rachel Roberts don’t feel bad because in Atlanta everybody know him as a Fully gay !
I don't feel bad for him. He's clearly a manipulative kid and he deserved her throwing in the towel
My opinion is that he likes boys more than girls and he cant aprove that to his self
@@beatricedevarenne2621 for real?! Wow
@@beatricedevarenne2621 I just feel like he’s fully gay, but he just wants to get married and settle with a women
Omg I am shocked at this scene. He’s horrendous, how he going to tell her to fix her wig now? So he’s had an issue with her wig the whole time!!
😂😂😂😂 right
I feel like he just needed something to say because he didn't have anything relevant.
I think they were both being defensive
but I agree he shouldnt of acted like that and called her names
He's a disgrace
Diamond was trying to handle everything maturely in attempts to understand Carlton. I honestly felt bad for Diamond, Carlton was just plain disrespectful and trying turn the situation on her cause HE KNEW HE WAS WRONG FOR WAITING *AFTER* THE PROPOSAL, TO TELL HER HE WAS BISEXUAL.
No, she handled it poorly the fact that it had to be a conservation was an issue. She clearly was uncomfortable with it qhen it really shouldn't matter.
@@imwaitintostrike why would it not be a conversation ?
She rejected him immediately.
This is like him telling her he has a.small dick after the proposal and her being like "why didn't you tell me day 1"
@@imwaitintostrike it shouldn't matter??? Everyone has preferences. She has the right to choose if she wants to be with someone bisexual. That's not wrong.
@@troywright359 your sexuality is a part of who you are. Your partner needs that information before you get serious. Period.
He likes men more than women . I knew that when he started talking about her wig sliding
????
her wig is sliding…anyone can see that. it’s not about sexuality dumb ass
What the fuck are you talking about hahhahaha
I agree !!!
ZESTY!!!
Carlton projected his own insecurities about his sexuality. His sexuality bothers him and when someone isn’t immediately all for it, he feels like they’re against him. All the things that he tells himself are the things he thought Diamond was feeling and he got defensive. Get some healing, my beautiful, black brother.
100%
But (it’s an honest question) don’t you feel like everyone should be all for like what’s wrong with it? He chose her that’s it
@@monet4143 yes . Your comment was amazing I hate how he's getting bashed i feel like at first he was trying but I felt her judgements which I understand on her part but still.. he felt it to and immediately flipped it
@@maxx7325 As a bisexual, there's nothing wrong with it. But its a big part of who I am. I wouldn't wait that long to tell my partner about my sexuality, if I was a divorcee, if I had kids etc.
@@blacbamboo284 as long as you were told a good time before the wedding, it should be fine
I laugh at this because his QUEEN came out when he was reading her and her wig. Lol. A straight man could not serve that shade on a silver platter lol
Period
Exactly!!
@@khloephoenix1982 He literally said I want to be a Beauty Queen in the first episode, was wondering why this gay guy was on the show..
I found the read funny😝.
Think about it though; he is uncomfortable with being feminine. He would prefer to be truly masculine. Which man in his right mind wants to be effeminate under a patriarchal society? Masculine energy is honored over feminine, which is why gay men are berated over lesbian women. I think he would rather be strong and masculine rather than a bitchy male who knows how to "read" due to his high levels of estrogen. No man truly wants that and other men do not respect it, and we know beta men care what the alphas think. He can't help who he is, and he clearly is uncomfortable with it.
Carlton: Other girls never had a problem with my bisexuality.
Diamond: Then why didn’t you tell me?
Carlton: Because I didn’t want you to have a problem with it.
Me: 😗
Why didn’t you marry them!?!? 🤣🤣🤣
yeh clearly your not getting what he's saying, the other girls didnt have a problem about it when they found out about it into the relationship. aka, diamond also would've found out eventually and it wouldn't have been a big deal either was carltons expectation. The fact that she made it a big deal made him defensive.
@@Blake4014 she didn’t make it big deal he did and disrespected her
Carleton is the ultimate example of gaslighting - Diamond made it clear (and rightfully so) that she wanted the TRUTH from the beginning. He omitted information even *he admitted* he was intentionally withholding, and now he’s twisting it around to ‘she would rather someone lie to her’ 🤔 - and when his inflated self worth and ego couldn’t explain his lack of 100% transparency, he started attacking her looks / wig, etc ….
Carlton has serious, deep issues and insecurities he needs to address on his own before pursuing a relationship and dragging the other person down.
literally couldn’t put that thought into words but yes i agree!!!
He doesn't have an inflated self worth he has a low one which made him defensive and over reactive ...he doesn't accept himself so therefore he thinks nobody else does!
I usually don't watch these drama show but got bored and once I saw this episode I had to look up UA-cam when I saw these couples and how things played out if and anyone agreed that this guy is in the wrong here 🤦🏻♀️
your totally right
Diamond was my fave. She genuinely deserved better
And she was trying to talk to him. She was trying to genuinely talk to him and understand him and he randomly started harrassing her
Diamond quoting Beyoncé’s Don’t Hurt Yourself is hilarious 😂
I was just about to comment this 😭
😭😭😭😭
This is why Iam here😭😭
I came to watch this again just to watch it lmao
I’m surprised how many supporters he has for being openly bisexual and she was harassed by fans and him! He was not openly bisexual or proud at all until after this show. He clearly set her up by proposing first; so disrespectful to not consider her reaction first, just rushed to tie her down so if she rejected him she would look like a monster. She wasn’t even going to leave him, she was just processing even though I’m sure this was already causing trust issues in her mind. And then he thinks they can rekindle a friendship even after how he disrespected a beautiful woman! No well raised man talks to any woman like that! He is posting all about it still, a total psycho. She dodged a bullet but I’m just disappointed how people are so blinded by his victim narrative.
It's extreme woke culture. Your character doesn't matter if you're from a victim group. Noone has a problem with Carlton's bisexuality. They have a problem with him keeping it a secret till after the engagement then getting defensive when she wants to talk about it. He's clearly got some open wounds he needs to heal first.
"I have clearly realized that this is not the woman for me." lmafo. i'm fkn dead.
😂 😂 and this buoy was like this is why I don’t deal with B****** like you man I lost it
Thats what a thrown cup to your face does to you 💀💀
carlton, if your insecure abt being bisexual just say that. diamond never said she didn't support you....she just wanted honesty. anyone who brings up being bi after a proposal is shady, she has a right to be reconsidering the whole engagement.
he was literally so rude and disrespectful towards her. She deserves better.
It's amazing how he played the victim here. This dude withheld important information from her then became defensive and aggressive when she just wanted to discuss why he would do such a thing. He KNEW him being bisexual was important to mention to someone you're trying to get into a relationship with then during the conversation with her, he pretended it wasn't. She was kind, gentle, respectful only for him to call her out her name then he had the audacity to throw out his self hate for black women. If you're not into black women and believe we're stereotypical like Amerikkka claim we are, by all means------> leave us alone.
The nerve of him to call her ignorant and stereotypical when that's exactly how he was acting himself. She kept calm, cool, and collected.
Jessica Marie exactly! I was mad confused
EXACTLY imagine it was 2 girls dating and diamond was comfortable letting caroltin go around guys, then when "she" wants to tell her "she's" bi, diamond is gonna freak out? You dont know what caroltin could've been doing with the guys who were "her" "friends"(btw the story i just had happened on 90 day fiance)
I’m so mad!!! I swore he was a hotep at first. He lost my support when his self-hate and hate towards black women came out 🤦🏾♀️.
1. Diamond does not have to accept him being bisexual 2. He is a narcissist and he has issues with his sexuality 3. Diamond dodged a bulled
She did accept it tho right? just mad that he lied..?
@@eleogramable yes she didnt have a Problem with his sexuality, she had a Problem with him not telling her from the beginning
Well they named you diamond for a reason , you deserve way better man than that .
the fact that she quoted beyonce!!!!!
Fucking iconic 😂😂
Where
When?? Time tag
@@jaggi2642 1:36 those are lines from "Don't Hurt Yourself"
Ok but why he gotta act like that. She was just trying to talk to him
Because he's a flaming drama qween?
bc he an f word
Hes crazy
You got that right
And in love with men 😉
Diamond!!! We love you! He is so full of himself. You would more than likely accepted him but he went about it all wrong, not humbly, without any concern for the relationship. You are better off.
This sir is a QUEEN.
The atmosphere changed the night before, he was already preparing for this mess of a conversation. Thank God, she got to see his true self now. I'm sorry that she experienced this after calmly sharing her feelings, even though he made that difficult. He needs to do better, no one deserves that treatment. Leave her wig alone, it has nothing to do with this, yoh Carlton 😕
And later in the confessional saying she proved herself as "stereotypical"? Or the awkward scene exactly before that when he was acting off and was saying that she's lucky she looks good or else he would've punched her immediately? He was so caught up in think she wouldn't accept him for his sexuality that he wasn't hearing what she was saying.
Someone should make a video of all the tiene Carlton said he was rejected and abandoned because of his past, and sexuality followed with this clip where he stated no one NO ONE has ever had an issue with it except Diomand. Really Carlton? How you twisted all this around on Diamond was pretty disgusting.
He wasn’t rejected because of his sexuality he was rejected because he is an asshole
Calls himself honest but proposes to her while lying about his sexuality.
Hé doesn’t lie lol. He just made him come out the moment he feels is the most comfortable.
@@manonsciamama8627 he’s not bi. He’s gay. You can tell by the way he talks to her. He hasn’t accepted that he’s gay. He thinks that she’s not accepting of him but she clearly sees that he doesn’t really like women. He wants to like women, but he doesn’t.
@@nyaziahlovelace6843 and you are is family? You are him? No so don’t think something based on stereotypes homophobic
@@manonsciamama8627 what stereotype did I use? He’s gay. He’s not bi. There’s nothing wrong with being bi. But the way he blew up on her when she tried to be understanding screams that he hasn’t accepted that he doesn’t like women. He doesn’t sound like he wants to marry a woman because he likes them. He sounds like he wants to marry a woman because that’s what hes “supposed to do.” He’s gonna cause himself to be very unhappy
Definition of gaslighting
_Keeps massive secret about his sexuality from her until after the engagement_
"I feel betrayed"
Does he realize he contradicted himself by saying that he's disclosed this information too early and been called all types of names but then says that no one has ever had an issue with it? How does that work? And he said it in the very next sentence. Thats too funny.
He confused af,and the fact that he tried to play the victim,the nerve of it all. Diamond dodged a huge bullet,Carlton needs therapy and he needs to grow the f up.
He is a walking red flag 🚩
Diamond seems like such a good, kind and understanding soul. And SUPER strong because she stood up for herself and walked away from that messed up, manipulative bag of poop. That dude needs a huge mirror and tons of therapy…like ECT. Calling her a B when HE’s the punk a$$ B.
The fact that people think she is wrong is insane. There's nothing wrong with having preferences. Wow.
I strongly agree with this comment!
i still think about how diamond managed to recite those beyonce lyrics with such ease to this day
Now I remember he was Cynthia’s assistant from the Real Housewives of Atlanta!!
I always thought he was gay.
Best scene in the whole show
It's all good. I'm sure diamond ain't gonna have ANY problems finding a man.....she fine bruh 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💯
A REAL MAN at that 🥰🥰
Damn I guess that lady bug 😔she saw was her dad tryna tell her NO baby he like a ladybug 🐞 “can’t tell if he like men’s or women’s “
Lol
Stoppp 💀
I'm literally hollering 😂😂
Lmaoooo I'm crying
1. Everyone should open up about their sexuality before getting engaged. Yeah maybe it's true that he doesn't want to reveal it from the very beginning, but he should've obviously told her before proposing.
2. He only let's himself express feelings. It's true that revealing his sexuality was a sensitive topic for him, but this means that it's also a sensitive topic for his partner. Diamond had to express her feelings, because everyone would have feelings after hearing their fiancé's fear and worry, and she was going to express her feelings to him in a communicative and calm way. And to this, he decided to take any question along the lines of "but why" as an aggression. If he wanted to be respected with his feelings, he should've shown the effort to understand the other mutually.
3. He starts coming up with random insults of her. While he wishes the other to right away say "it's fine" about his worry, he doesn't show the least respect for potential insecurities or worries of others. Perhaps calling each other with swear words might have made sense since they were in a fight, but Carlton just goes nonstop to make comments that personally attack Diamond. Diamond has the dignity and respect to not point out a single rude comment that might personally attack him, even when Carlton is clearly not showing any respect for her.
I think it was the attitude that was his problem, not the actual fact that he was bisexual. Yeah maybe it wouldn't have worked out even if he had been a respectful, non-egotistic person. But with that attitude and disrespect towards someone, he himself messed up this whole conversation.
I’m so glad he showed his true colors before they got officially married. Poor diamond
This dude is so insecure.. he blaims everything on her. He is in a battle with his own demons about his past
Carlton really be giving me sociopathic vibes 😰
I haven’t seen the show but I knew he had a little sugar in his tank that moment the video started lol
He seem pretty feminine to me.
😂
Thank you! You can tell!!! Why can't other women see it? It's so obvious the way he was talking and moving his lips and all... lmao 🤣😂🤣
Sugar being sprinkled everywhere...i thought there would be a guy on the other side for him
@@SheraLawton that man is gay...not bisexual. Lying to himself
Definitely funny how he mentioned that he doesn't care about what he sees cause what matters is the inside and then boom "watch your wig cause it's fallin' off..." he's so silly and childish oh and selfish. What an idiot 😂😂😂 how was HE betrayed again???
Narcissists 🤷♀️
She has every right to tell him he should of told her from the beginning!
He says he is a preacher’s kid...... He doesn’t act anything like a loving Christian. 😭😭😭 He was very hurtful and judging Diamond. She didn’t even get to say everything she was feeling. He kept interrupting her and then started yelling.
He's gay...he has left christianity alone...
@@SheraLawton I don't think anyone thinks he's a Christian, but you'd think that he'd pick up some values from the religion from being a pastor's child.
I could not BELIEVE his audacity, vile behavior here. He is TERRIBLE.
Love how he tried to flip the script of "its never been an issue with other people" but if that was true then why has he mentioned numerous times that it HAS been am issue in the past. He's a narcissist and truth be told was gaslighting her by trying to make it seem that she's unaccepting of his sexuality when the true issue is his dishonesty and apathy towards her feelings.
Y’all see the subtitles say “poor guy” instead of “boy bye”.. y’all know a white person subbed this 🤣
Lmaoooo
Diamond didnt deserve this
I understand all the hate for this man, but the “your wig been sliding since day one” line was one of the funniest insults of all time 😂
Explain the hate. Never watched the show but from this clip and as a gay guy, I felt sympathetic for his plight.
I understand I don't have the full context though of what came before but her reaction pissed me off.
And she basically assaulted him and then tried to throw something later but lacked th3 upper body strength that I can only imagine was being used to support the weight of that lopsided wig.
See there I go again.
@@InnerRise Basically, people hate on him because he didn't disclose to her before the proposal that he had sexual relations with men in the past. And then he got angry at her when she got angry at him for doing that.
@@real_john_doe oh then it's exactly what it looks like and he has no obligation to share that. She definitely didn't have a right to be mad. Hasn't she had relations with me in the past.
People thinking they're obligated to gay people's info is Klaun-ish behaviour.
@@InnerRise Lol um...many women certainly care and would have an issue if they knew a guy had past relationships with other men/or if he's bisexual. Not only is that a deal breaker for many, but to not disclose until proposing to someone is wrong. I think she handled it gracefully until he acted like a fool.
@@Erecura you're dumb though.
"I don't give a fuck about a ring! Fuck a ring!" 🤣
Carlton knew what he was doing. He wanted airtime and he got it....he wasn't there for a real "relationship" LOL....they were talking behind a damn wall...he didnt even have to face her. There is NO reason why he couldn't have told her that he was bisexual prior to engagement. For those who are saying "why does it matter?" so you dont think you have the right to know your mate's sexuality PRIOR to standing before God and whoever else and saying vows to them? Interesting....
Also, notice how he starts acting catty and commenting about her wig and such, simply because she didn’t want to date a bisexual man! Like wtf, he never liked her to begin with, he just wanted to be MARRIED to a woman as he said earlier because they are “nurturing” he just wants her FREE LABOR AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT!!
She said " Watch my ass til the next dick boy" 🤣 I was rolling.
She has proven herself to be stereotypical!?!? Because she responded rightfully to you calling her a misogynistic SLUR!?!?
F Carlton. Diamond is my favorite from S1, she's a sweetheart. She's mature, empathetic, and kind. I love her in the second reunion (spoiler) for jumping into a fight that wasn't hers, to defend LC against Amber. She's a friend and woman who's worth her weight in gold.
him dissing her wig is so sassy
Diamond is so lucky.The dude has nothing to offer to his partner .he just likes to complain .
🧐 Carlton was in the wrong. Diamond wasn't judgemental in any way. All she wanted was honesty and a conversation, but Carlton couldn't see past his own insecurities and placed blame at Diamonds feet unjustly. He let his own fear ruin his relationship with a beautiful, strong woman. He contradicted himself numerous times and refused to take responsibility for his deception. Diamond is a true woman, but Carlton is not yet a man. He has a LOT of growing up to do.
Diamond handled herself with class the whole time untill this two face no good for nothing man started attacking her and missed the whole point Diamond was trying to convey... Then he had the audacity to throw “the stereotype” theory about black women!!! Shameless black man!!! He wasn’t brought up good, says a lot about him as a black man. Look at how crazy some of these white women were acting towards their white men! Did you hear any of them white men calling any of them “bitches”, some black men need to learn from some white men, period
Carlton has some deep rooted issues within himself and never should have been on the show in the first place. He wears masks and the dark aggressive side to him came out blasting. He’s borderline abusive. Diamond is better off. Hopefully Carlton realizes one day he needs therapy to work through his problems.
Yea he needs to talk to someone cause he seems like he was hurt or something and now he’s hurting everyone else.
Just recently saw this episode and I saw nothing of her having a problem with his sexuality but felt hurt that he couldn’t talk to her or trust her to tell her that before they met.😢
Gas lighting her bc he couldn’t of been honest lol
Dammm his feminine tendencies kicked it real fast 😭. She was just trying to have a conversation.
Amen lol
Diamond was a diamond.. she deserves someone way better and I hope she found him. He tried to flip it in her. Punk!
Carlton is not ready to love someone. He needs to love himself first. He hates who he is. He feels dirty about it. I can tell because he hides it until he thinks he won’t be rejected. At the same time I feel like this was a discussion that needed to be dealt with at the moment it started. Don’t wait for next day. But that’s my opinion.
I feel really bad for Carlton and her. I hope Carlton can find peace.
The voice he has in the argument speaks to where he needs to stay lol js
She is amazing!! Good for her! I would have cried in front of him. She held her ground
Carlton is a classic narcissist
All he had to do was apologize! like thats all she wanted!! ughhhhhh annoys me!
Her quoting Beyonce is my favorite thing lmaooo
Where at I can’t find it
@@arleneserratos4968
Same
@@arleneserratos4968 she was quoting some lyrics from a Beyoncé song that’s called Don’t hurt yourself
Bro the way he said her wig was sliding had me GAGGED 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This dude is delusional and came on the show to make it all about him. He was not honest point blank period. In the beginning relationships shouldn't be this complicated this is exactly why you don't marry someone in 4 days because you don't truly know a person.
I hate everything about this man. He is a liar and manipulator. Makes me want to through up!!!!
I want to fight him. That was so unfair to Diamond and disrespectful.
Y’all this was Cynthia’s assistant from RHOA season 5. He was the one who was trying to put Kenya out of the Bailey Agency when she was being rude to the models 😂😂😂
Oh no he’s already making you the bad guy. She dodged a big problem there!
The homophobia in these comments are crazy whew…
I think he’s more gay then bisexual
She dodged a serious bullet
Diamond no real man whatever insult of woman about her hair like that she is obviously gay. We will find true love diamond. ! You are beautiful, intelligent woman!
He should’ve told her since the beginning! She could’ve been with someone better!
Shame on the producers for not doing their due diligence on this dude.
He proposes, she says yes, and he springs the bisexuality secret on her after the fact? Come on, drama queen, IT'S ON YOU! You're in the absolutely wrong. Diamond, you deserve so much better, but better to fight now before the disastrous wedding than to find out after the wedding You dodged a big bullet. But thank God things turned out the way it did, although ugly, but it saved you from a few years of pain and drama for sure.
His logic is so badly flawed and there are so many people like him that have this toxic mentality. No one needs to accept you and she did. She just wanted to be told from day one which is what she and everyone else deserves. This whole “I’m not telling someone that I’m LGBTQ+ because of what might happen” logic is flawed, problematic and deceptive. Why would you want to be with someone who doesn’t accept you from day one??
He wanted his 15sec of fame on the show
The problem is Carlton don't want to be the man in a relationship, he the woman.
So zesty, so mean.
Yo not zessssssty!!!!!
Whats zesssssty?
I hate the comments. Yes he should've been honest up front but he's been loving this way for so long, people like him have gotten so much hate or judgement. She's so hateful and judgemental
Thank you finally someone who sees it like I do . Like I mean I’m not going to lie, Colton is kind of a dick so I don’t really like him honestly but I can’t help but kind be on his side . Now his I agree he should have actually sat down and tried talking to Diamond instead of getting all pissy but at the same time in the long run why would she have a problem with his sexuality in the first place?
Her and other people trying to play it with the fact the he wasn’t honest with her from the start but I can’t help but feel but Diamond was only saying that because she knew this was going to end up on tv and she didn’t want the world to know she was homophobic/biphobic 🤷🏻♀️
Nope! The issue is how he handled it. She was clearly willing to be with him. If he can get engaged to someone without disclosing a big of part of himself and worse off wanting her not to process things???
He is selfish
A child
A hurt child who will continue hurting others.
Manipulation at it's finest.
And love isn't enough. Where's the respect and trust!!
To assume that she is bophobic, bfrfr
This dude is a mess and had no place on this show. Wasted her time as well as ours.