Umbreon really doesn't have the damage to play top lane as an all rounder role. Trevenant Blastoise and Goodra are the ones that fit that bill better. Umbreon fills more of a defender healer dual role
@@toallcameone3325 well I mean, Generally? Speedsters are the assassins (massive burst damage, usually negligible healing), attackers are the main sustained damage usually long ranged archers or mages, all-roundera are the frontline brawlers with decent sustain and disable or stun (which umbreon does), Defenders are just really chonky disablers but usually only valuable in teamfights (fighting more than 1 or fighting with more than 1), and support is just straight up S tier on your team but annoying as f on the other team
@@Cle-o Greedent in my opinion is like the anti-speedster, even though it barely does any concern-worthy damage, it is still the greatest counter to a speedster if used right in a team fight
Blastoise the best defender? I kept trying him and did so bad I'm not a bad player ethier. Which combo is best for him? It seems I havnt done well with really any defender though haha Btw blastoise seemed so squishy to me for a defender but I was using that wave move. Maybe I need to use the other one?
I think Umbreon is clearly the best. I've had 100k healing games on Foul Play/Wish. I've had triple 80k+ games on Umbreon too. It's CRAZY good right now. So much so, that I opt to ban it in draft a lot.
I like using weakness policy over cookie since wish healing scales off its attack stat. Beefy heals gives me so much more health than cookie ever could, not to mention your teammates.
Umbreon is my favorite pokemon, and I got it thanks to your give away on release. But I really don't like any of it's Holowear still. It needs a pretty goth dress! 😭
Umbreon is the best defender for me because it does the job of defender and supporter, i played Umbreon in a game and got 54k damage delt, 116k damage taken, and 112k damage healed, absolutely crazy.
Falinks is going to be so much fun and they've done a great job with not going overboard with buffs and nerfs recently like Umbreon. We'll see how long that lasts.
Slowbro is a the best defender in my opinion He's almost never been touched thanks to how well he was designed since the beginning He and gained a lot of popularity with the rise of OP pokemon as a must-be shutdown. True, he has fallen off a bit in the meta since less pokemon are overpowered but he is still great.
How works the membership? I never understand it. I usually buy it with regolar cash because of it. I tried kinda any combination with umbreon and are all good. I still think mean look is still better than foul play regardless of the buff. Wish is so good, i really like it this buff because having a different viable option. The best defender is blastoise (the closest one at least for soloq is trevenant). Umbreon in team fight (tournament fights kinda) it would be insane with wish and mean look arguably at the same level of blastoise. For soloq i think trevenant and blastoise do way better in general. Trevenant is still so good. Defender is the best class in the game atm.
I also only get the membership and have ended up with enough gems to get the 2.4k gem holowears because there's usually not much to actually incentivize me to spend gems. I try to avoid it with new releases to not support that shady practice
Just picked up Umbreon yesterday and really enjoying it. Reminds me of how good Blastoise is outside of his typical "defender" type of label. Nothing like a surf to throw an entire team off a goal, then a hydro pump to hold them off right after to let everyone score.
Gotta say I love Umbreon right now in spite of myself. Foul play has always been fun, Snarl can be very satisfying against the right comps, and Wish scratches a real ‘Red Mage’ all rounder itch for me. Great at brawling, great at controlling the enemy team, but now doesn’t feel quite as busted as running Mean Look everywhere which is boring and has zero counter play.
I call these 4 defenders THE BIG FOUR 1. Blastoise 2. Trevenant 3. Umbreon 4. Crustle And out of all THE BIG FOUR I say blastoise is the best for now until it gets nerfed
In my experience Trevenant is the only defender that I consistently can do well with and consistently have trouble against. All the other defenders can get melted down by strong damage and made to have no impact if focused hard enough, but Trevenant just lives. And unlike Goodra, also does good damage in return. Definitely the best brawler in the game. Slowbro is another good character for survivability and has probably the best ult in the game. But I also mostly play in veteran/ultra rank so my experience is probably different from actually good players lol. All these videos constantly praise Blastoise and Umbreon and those 2 do nothing down here in low ranks. I've run into like, 1 good blastoise and that's it. And I get wrecked every time I try Blastoise.
At this point... I am wondering if we'll get a Supporter With Wish as is, I don't know if Vaporeon will be the 1st of the 3 to arrive Where are my Supporters? 😢
well well it further prove that Umbreon, still doing strong, even with a change to use in foul play let's just hope there's no further nerfs in the future
@@splatty0674 thats really not correct at all...bruh, yes Sylveon was really OP on release but thats because back then there weren't really that many Pokémon anyway. She got nerfed two days later right away and was pretty average for over a Year after that, till she recieved a buff to the build that was underperforming (Mystical Fire&Draining Kiss) which made her above average. And now more than a Year later she recieved some actually significant buffs to her UNITE move and a Sp. Att increase which makes her a pretty good choice overall, besides the fact that i still think that Mystical Fire needs a small damage buff, you cant blame the whole Eevee thing on Sylveon...she barely got her time to shine while the rest have been running rampant even tho they havent been in the Game as long as Sylveon.
Been saying that for years to constant ridicule. Glad to have you on my team brother. Umbreon is the worst in main game, moveset is literally just stall, Unite arguably tied with glaceon.
I'm getting tired bro. We need a league of legends smite. Dudes keep ks playing objective and for some reason the Pokemon community find it's skilled to see jacked objs instead of winning proper team fights for it
Me when my teammates don't go to objectives- "I don't need you!" As the notice that I stole the objective from the entire enemy team comes across the screen. I'll admit though, it's getting ridiculous. Machamp needs a buff to where it can launch AFK and trolling allies as projectiles.
Blame the game not the player. That's kind of the only skillful thing besides proficiency with moves that you can do in this game tbh. It's not too advanced.
All I see sense the season started is Jack the obj plays I really hate those kind of plays literally saw a play where my team went from. Touching Rayquaza to losing it killing the whole team of the jacked obj murdering the enemy team and counter dunking with 70 points difference because me and my randoms were that fed up with it 0_0
Sees the obj. 5 seconds of touch they can jack jack meanwhile. Every single god dam one of them. Later and about 5 counter dunks and a 5 nuked off score shields
Umbreon is the only defender that doesn't feel like a defender, its more of a dashy-supporty-all rounder (great at brawling)
Umbreon really doesn't have the damage to play top lane as an all rounder role. Trevenant Blastoise and Goodra are the ones that fit that bill better. Umbreon fills more of a defender healer dual role
@@toallcameone3325 as a Zoroark main, my instincts SPEAK Umbreon is a better all rounder than defender
@@toallcameone3325 well I mean, Generally? Speedsters are the assassins (massive burst damage, usually negligible healing), attackers are the main sustained damage usually long ranged archers or mages, all-roundera are the frontline brawlers with decent sustain and disable or stun (which umbreon does), Defenders are just really chonky disablers but usually only valuable in teamfights (fighting more than 1 or fighting with more than 1), and support is just straight up S tier on your team but annoying as f on the other team
Greedent feels the least like a defender to me, more like a speedster or support?
@@Cle-o Greedent in my opinion is like the anti-speedster, even though it barely does any concern-worthy damage, it is still the greatest counter to a speedster if used right in a team fight
5:07 it's kinda weird when a player use the "Thanks!" quickchat for its intended purpose
5:09 that’s the first time I’ve ever seen someone say “Thanks!” And actually mean it lolol
Lmaoo I do it too tbh, but have never seen anybody else do the same.
I do it too@@Vixxi_TheKitti
Best defenders:
- Blastoise
- Umbreon
- Trevenant
- Slowbro
In that order
Slowbro's unite move alone already makes it such a good mon, if you do it right you can insta kill the biggest threat
Blastoise the best defender? I kept trying him and did so bad I'm not a bad player ethier. Which combo is best for him? It seems I havnt done well with really any defender though haha
Btw blastoise seemed so squishy to me for a defender but I was using that wave move. Maybe I need to use the other one?
Trevenant feels like the best defender to me
Trevenant is the best solo carry defender, but blastoise and umbreon are just better defenders overall with trevenant not far behind.
Trev is better as a solo queue player for sure.
Best defender gotta be Blastoise. The stun chain is gross.
You ever make it to the SHRINE of the Silver Monkey
I think Umbreon is clearly the best. I've had 100k healing games on Foul Play/Wish. I've had triple 80k+ games on Umbreon too. It's CRAZY good right now. So much so, that I opt to ban it in draft a lot.
I like using weakness policy over cookie since wish healing scales off its attack stat. Beefy heals gives me so much more health than cookie ever could, not to mention your teammates.
Umbreon is my favorite pokemon, and I got it thanks to your give away on release. But I really don't like any of it's Holowear still. It needs a pretty goth dress! 😭
It has a dress but it is not goth enough 😭
@@Dimkam30 exactly
I have been playing this moveset and item build the past weeks in ranked, and it got me to masters :D
I’ve dropped 134k in ranked before w Blastoise. Best defender to me.
I need help with Umbreon. Literally playing the exact same build as above... but getting absolutely shredded.
Umbreon is the best defender for me because it does the job of defender and supporter, i played Umbreon in a game and got 54k damage delt, 116k damage taken, and 112k damage healed, absolutely crazy.
Umbreon might be taking eldegoss' spot on my healer list
my umbreon : i heal my self, go away team mates
I wonder why most Umbreon players don’t play like you,
They instantly run away from fights
And never defend or protect allies 😢
Falinks is going to be so much fun and they've done a great job with not going overboard with buffs and nerfs recently like Umbreon. We'll see how long that lasts.
Slowbro is a the best defender in my opinion
He's almost never been touched thanks to how well he was designed since the beginning
He and gained a lot of popularity with the rise of OP pokemon as a must-be shutdown. True, he has fallen off a bit in the meta since less pokemon are overpowered but he is still great.
How works the membership? I never understand it. I usually buy it with regolar cash because of it.
I tried kinda any combination with umbreon and are all good.
I still think mean look is still better than foul play regardless of the buff.
Wish is so good, i really like it this buff because having a different viable option.
The best defender is blastoise (the closest one at least for soloq is trevenant).
Umbreon in team fight (tournament fights kinda) it would be insane with wish and mean look arguably at the same level of blastoise. For soloq i think trevenant and blastoise do way better in general.
Trevenant is still so good.
Defender is the best class in the game atm.
Was wondering why they just weren't dying
Hot take: Goodra is such a good defender with power whip, muddy water's combo
I also only get the membership and have ended up with enough gems to get the 2.4k gem holowears because there's usually not much to actually incentivize me to spend gems. I try to avoid it with new releases to not support that shady practice
Just picked up Umbreon yesterday and really enjoying it. Reminds me of how good Blastoise is outside of his typical "defender" type of label.
Nothing like a surf to throw an entire team off a goal, then a hydro pump to hold them off right after to let everyone score.
since i only have one of the emblems do you have any budget emblem builds for this?
I'd say the best Defender right now is Blastoise just for its versatility
im knocking out 110K healing each game when me and my wife play double defender
Gotta say I love Umbreon right now in spite of myself. Foul play has always been fun, Snarl can be very satisfying against the right comps, and Wish scratches a real ‘Red Mage’ all rounder itch for me.
Great at brawling, great at controlling the enemy team, but now doesn’t feel quite as busted as running Mean Look everywhere which is boring and has zero counter play.
anyhere play umbreon critical basic attack?
I call these 4 defenders THE BIG FOUR
1. Blastoise
2. Trevenant
3. Umbreon
4. Crustle
And out of all THE BIG FOUR I say blastoise is the best for now until it gets nerfed
In my experience Trevenant is the only defender that I consistently can do well with and consistently have trouble against. All the other defenders can get melted down by strong damage and made to have no impact if focused hard enough, but Trevenant just lives. And unlike Goodra, also does good damage in return. Definitely the best brawler in the game. Slowbro is another good character for survivability and has probably the best ult in the game. But I also mostly play in veteran/ultra rank so my experience is probably different from actually good players lol. All these videos constantly praise Blastoise and Umbreon and those 2 do nothing down here in low ranks. I've run into like, 1 good blastoise and that's it. And I get wrecked every time I try Blastoise.
Purple Parrots were my squad in the Temple!
Umbreon has always has been incredibly versatile
Can you steal raquaza shield with unite?
No, umbreon's unite can't steal ray's shield
At this point...
I am wondering if we'll get a Supporter
With Wish as is, I don't know if Vaporeon will be the 1st of the 3 to arrive
Where are my Supporters? 😢
Blasty boi is the best defender rn
Silver Snakes was THE team
(Mid way point of the video question's answer) I think Blastoise is the best Defender
I think blastoise is really good right now
Still need damage nerf
Blastoise and trev are amazing now
You're playing it in this video ser
Jk Tree
Best defender, best eevee.
Leftover talon is good ( day 1)
Blastoise is so good. So is Umbreon. 1a and 1b
well well it further prove that Umbreon, still doing strong, even with a change to use in foul play let's just hope there's no further nerfs in the future
Please, cowboy, do another video complaining about glaceon, it's really broken and they must fix that.
I finally thinking to stop playing
Jkx2 it's really Wiggly
Blastoise and it's not even close
Blue barracudas!!!!
Such a good teammate. 😍
A clean defense work 👍🏻
I have a20 percentage win rate on this
Yeeehawww
Yee
Try it with: Focus band + EXP. Share + Razor Claw. That's the real defender build
Yeeee haw
Imo I hate eevolutions; I just wanted to comment that. Besides, good video
I can understand why you would hate the other 4 but..
What did Sylveon do???
@@KawaiiMimi778 He was the first one, he started all of this
@@splatty0674 thats really not correct at all...bruh, yes Sylveon was really OP on release but thats because back then there weren't really that many Pokémon anyway.
She got nerfed two days later right away and was pretty average for over a Year after that, till she recieved a buff to the build that was underperforming (Mystical Fire&Draining Kiss) which made her above average.
And now more than a Year later she recieved some actually significant buffs to her UNITE move and a Sp. Att increase which makes her a pretty good choice overall, besides the fact that i still think that Mystical Fire needs a small damage buff, you cant blame the whole Eevee thing on Sylveon...she barely got her time to shine while the rest have been running rampant even tho they havent been in the Game as long as Sylveon.
Been saying that for years to constant ridicule. Glad to have you on my team brother. Umbreon is the worst in main game, moveset is literally just stall, Unite arguably tied with glaceon.
@@KawaiiMimi778Unfortunately Sylv just gets caught up in the Eevee hate. Probably the best design wise and not too powerful.
Blastoise
I'm getting tired bro. We need a league of legends smite. Dudes keep ks playing objective and for some reason the Pokemon community find it's skilled to see jacked objs instead of winning proper team fights for it
Me when my teammates don't go to objectives- "I don't need you!" As the notice that I stole the objective from the entire enemy team comes across the screen. I'll admit though, it's getting ridiculous. Machamp needs a buff to where it can launch AFK and trolling allies as projectiles.
Blame the game not the player. That's kind of the only skillful thing besides proficiency with moves that you can do in this game tbh. It's not too advanced.
Fluffy Tail exists but the other battle items are so much better
All I see sense the season started is Jack the obj plays I really hate those kind of plays literally saw a play where my team went from. Touching Rayquaza to losing it killing the whole team of the jacked obj murdering the enemy team and counter dunking with 70 points difference because me and my randoms were that fed up with it 0_0
Sees the obj. 5 seconds of touch they can jack jack meanwhile. Every single god dam one of them. Later and about 5 counter dunks and a 5 nuked off score shields
Yo
First...I think?
First
Has to be umbreon rn
blastoise best defender
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