Really enjoyable visit to the past. Made my wife's "Friday clean the patio" reign of terror much easier on me. Brought back memories of my first stereo, which had the Electro-Voice EV16A. Bought them at the age of about 14 with a loan from my older brother - managed to afford the $214 Canadian Dollars because they were a mismatched pair. Well, over 40 years later, and I have yet to hear affordable speakers with the bass dynamics of those 12 inch acoustic suspension woofers.
I used to use a set of these in the early/mid 90's when mixing nearfield just to check how a mix would sound in your average car stereo or boombox. Was quite useful at the time. Perhaps I ought to search out another set.
You're right- they have character. I bought some Denton 2's, put Jantzen caps in them and upgraded the internal wiring and binding posts. I absolutely loved them! great fun and you just enjoy the music rather than being analytical. Fantastic!!
Oh my giddy aunt. How bizarre. Just a week ago I was trawling that well known auction site and a pair of these came up. I was very tempted, I must say. Just for the fun factor really. Another fun Riff, thanks chaps.
It's mad ,but I was looking at a pair of these recently. I ended up with a pair of linton xp2 s' instead. I recapped them with poly caps and they sound sweet. Thanks for sharing.Great Riff again lads, keep it up.
I bought a pair of these for £1 at a village auction in 2006. Then traded them with a friend for a set of roto-toms. I think he still has them somewhere!! - Jes
My son has recently acquired a pair of the speakers that awoke the audiophile in me around the age of 6 or 7 years old; the Wharfedale Super Lintons. He loves the late 60’s/ early 70’s aesthetic of them. It was interesting to hear them again, over 50 years later. They sound really good on music from the same period of their manufacture, and the bass has surprising heft and wallop when needed, considering these are large-ish, sealed box stand mounts.
Great riff. I had a pair of Linton 3XPs with a Technics SU7200 23 wpc amp and a Garrard 125. It all sounded great. Hearing a Sony Walkman for the first time was a shock though, all that treble.
I remember the Chevin XP, I used them with a Dixons Prinzsound amp and tuner with the ubiquitous SP 25 turntable. Now I am still with Wharfedale Precision Series 519 with Exposure 2010 Integrated with Power amplification, source Pink Triangle LPT modified by Arthur K with Moth arm upgrade by Mark at Origin Live and Dynavector DV-10X5, just a little upgrade !!!
No Bank Holiday trips to the seaside then! You shouldn't laugh at those terminals though- my Goodmans LS3/5as have a very similar pair of screws at the back!! It was the 1970s.....
Denton xp2s were my first speakers - bulit from a Wilmslow Audio kit. I remember building the cabinets bigger than the plan suggested to improve the bass response. Not sure 18mm chipboard was recommended either, but it's what my dad got hold of. Happy days. Oh, also driven by the ubiquitous Trio 3700 - the best Tottenham Court Rd had to offer! My Thorens td150 is all that remains and is still doing it's magic. Riff on that, pretty please?
Wow, I bought my Trio KA3700 from Tottenham Court Road too, on discount at Lion House I seem to remember! Lovely little amp. The TD150 certainly deserves its own Riff, and your request shall be granted when we find a decent example out in the wild.
@@MrVinylista nice one! If you're going for one with an original arm then the mark 2 is the one to hear. Although crude looking that kugel arm has something rather special about it on the 150.
What a lovely riff in a very warming way guys. Takes me back to SP25 early Trio Amp and Toshiba SS33 speakers. Ingham Specials Who were kitchen furniture manufacturers as I recall. Very heady happy simpler days.
You would have also blasted Rush's Hemispheres through these in 1978 too.. Just to be pedantic these don't have concentric drivers as there is just the one drive unit per cabinet. They are dual cone drivers with one voice coil, the large 8 inch paper driver and what was called a 'Whizzer Cone' attached very closely to the voice coil to better transmit high frequencies (the small horn looking thing at the centre). No electrical crossover needed, some went as far as saying this was a mechanical crossover.
You are absolutely right inasmuch as they are dual cone but not strictly 'dual concentric' - in the sense of having two discrete drivers like Tannoys. We used the term as shorthand as we didn't have time to dig into the mechanics of this old school drive unit. The Chevin's 'whizzer' cone is both a strength and a weakness. As you say, there's no need for an electronic crossover (good), but it can't deliver the treble extension or purity of a proper 2-way (bad). There's a distinct treble roll-off compared to the 2-way Dentons, for example. All the same, to my ears the Chevin is the most musical of the XP2 series.
A wonderful blast from the past. Great upload. What is your opinion on the whopping great Leak speakers that looked like daleks? I think they were called the Sandwich 2075?
I would say they are 'interesting' but flawed. Actually, this describes many speakers of that era. The Leak was definitely a serious attempt at a high end speaker, and gives a big, powerful sound even by today's standards, but it's way off the pace now in terms of detail, dynamics, power handling, transient speed, etc. As ever, it depends what you want from a speaker.
I started my hifi journey with the Garrard SP25, a Sansui amp (I think it had no 17 somewhere) and some Goldman’s speakers all from Comet at the age of 16 ish. Great memories. My brother had a better system with some big Wharfdale speakers,a Pioneer turntable with a Marantz amp.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xtThat's not the point as it's a full range driver. As for dual concentric, that's marketing terminology but it does make sense. It's 2 drive units in a single package placed concentrically.
@@gaborozorai3714 You don't know the meaning of concentric. Both drivers can't be concentric, only one, therefore not dual concentric. It's a misnomer, correctly, its a two-way concentric design. Marketing is nonsense and will always be if there are those that think it makes sense and don't push back.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Whaaat? Concentric refers to multiple circles or circular objects that share the same centre point. There must be at least 2 of them. Like a mid-bass plus a tweeter placed in its centre. From this perspective you are right that "Dual" is superfluous as a concentric design certainly cannot contain just one driver.
Nothing that a jigsaw or multi-tool wouldn't sort out. Alternatively, blank off the ports on a pair of Rehdekos with plywood offcuts and a tube of no-nails. Having never seen or heard the Rehdekos, I won't speak ill of them, but they did seem a bit 'divisive'.
That’s got a nice tone, that does sum up the 70’s, I heard that comment so many times in my youth.
Really enjoyable visit to the past. Made my wife's "Friday clean the patio" reign of terror much easier on me. Brought back memories of my first stereo, which had the Electro-Voice EV16A. Bought them at the age of about 14 with a loan from my older brother - managed to afford the $214 Canadian Dollars because they were a mismatched pair. Well, over 40 years later, and I have yet to hear affordable speakers with the bass dynamics of those 12 inch acoustic suspension woofers.
what more needs to be said about these reference speakers used in David’s primary system. Finally the truth is revealed.
Doh!
Hahaha! Brilliant deduction. 😂
Mike
I used to use a set of these in the early/mid 90's when mixing nearfield just to check how a mix would sound in your average car stereo or boombox. Was quite useful at the time. Perhaps I ought to search out another set.
You're right- they have character. I bought some Denton 2's, put Jantzen caps in them and upgraded the internal wiring and binding posts. I absolutely loved them! great fun and you just enjoy the music rather than being analytical. Fantastic!!
Oh my giddy aunt. How bizarre. Just a week ago I was trawling that well known auction site and a pair of these came up. I was very tempted, I must say. Just for the fun factor really. Another fun Riff, thanks chaps.
Thanks for a fun and enjoyable look back to yester year
It's mad ,but I was looking at a pair of these recently. I ended up with a pair of linton xp2 s' instead. I recapped them with poly caps and they sound sweet. Thanks for sharing.Great Riff again lads, keep it up.
Thanks. I am tempted to give these Chevins the audiophile treatment too...
I bought a pair of these for £1 at a village auction in 2006. Then traded them with a friend for a set of roto-toms. I think he still has them somewhere!!
- Jes
My son has recently acquired a pair of the speakers that awoke the audiophile in me around the age of 6 or 7 years old; the Wharfedale Super Lintons. He loves the late 60’s/ early 70’s aesthetic of them. It was interesting to hear them again, over 50 years later. They sound really good on music from the same period of their manufacture, and the bass has surprising heft and wallop when needed, considering these are large-ish, sealed box stand mounts.
Great riff. I had a pair of Linton 3XPs with a Technics SU7200 23 wpc amp and a Garrard 125. It all sounded great. Hearing a Sony Walkman for the first time was a shock though, all that treble.
LOL!
I remember the Chevin XP, I used them with a Dixons Prinzsound amp and tuner with the ubiquitous SP 25 turntable. Now I am still with Wharfedale Precision Series 519 with Exposure 2010 Integrated with Power amplification, source Pink Triangle LPT modified by Arthur K with Moth arm upgrade by Mark at Origin Live and Dynavector DV-10X5, just a little upgrade !!!
I want to hear that! Prinzsound brought back memories! I remember the Prinzflex cameras too!
No Bank Holiday trips to the seaside then! You shouldn't laugh at those terminals though- my Goodmans LS3/5as have a very similar pair of screws at the back!! It was the 1970s.....
Denton xp2s were my first speakers - bulit from a Wilmslow Audio kit. I remember building the cabinets bigger than the plan suggested to improve the bass response. Not sure 18mm chipboard was recommended either, but it's what my dad got hold of. Happy days. Oh, also driven by the ubiquitous Trio 3700 - the best Tottenham Court Rd had to offer! My Thorens td150 is all that remains and is still doing it's magic. Riff on that, pretty please?
Wow, I bought my Trio KA3700 from Tottenham Court Road too, on discount at Lion House I seem to remember! Lovely little amp. The TD150 certainly deserves its own Riff, and your request shall be granted when we find a decent example out in the wild.
@@MrVinylista nice one! If you're going for one with an original arm then the mark 2 is the one to hear. Although crude looking that kugel arm has something rather special about it on the 150.
Hi Michael and David have you ever heard any Richard Allan speakers and if so witch ones and what did you think of them? Cheers Peter.
What a lovely riff in a very warming way guys. Takes me back to SP25 early Trio Amp and Toshiba SS33 speakers. Ingham Specials Who were kitchen furniture manufacturers as I recall. Very heady happy simpler days.
Yep, when all you had to worry about was wearing out your copy of Saturday Night Fever!
You would have also blasted Rush's Hemispheres through these in 1978 too.. Just to be pedantic these don't have concentric drivers as there is just the one drive unit per cabinet. They are dual cone drivers with one voice coil, the large 8 inch paper driver and what was called a 'Whizzer Cone' attached very closely to the voice coil to better transmit high frequencies (the small horn looking thing at the centre). No electrical crossover needed, some went as far as saying this was a mechanical crossover.
You are absolutely right inasmuch as they are dual cone but not strictly 'dual concentric' - in the sense of having two discrete drivers like Tannoys. We used the term as shorthand as we didn't have time to dig into the mechanics of this old school drive unit.
The Chevin's 'whizzer' cone is both a strength and a weakness. As you say, there's no need for an electronic crossover (good), but it can't deliver the treble extension or purity of a proper 2-way (bad). There's a distinct treble roll-off compared to the 2-way Dentons, for example. All the same, to my ears the Chevin is the most musical of the XP2 series.
A wonderful blast from the past. Great upload.
What is your opinion on the whopping great Leak speakers that looked like daleks?
I think they were called the Sandwich 2075?
I would say they are 'interesting' but flawed. Actually, this describes many speakers of that era. The Leak was definitely a serious attempt at a high end speaker, and gives a big, powerful sound even by today's standards, but it's way off the pace now in terms of detail, dynamics, power handling, transient speed, etc. As ever, it depends what you want from a speaker.
@@MrVinylista Thanks, pal.
1978 I was born!🎉🥳
I started my hifi journey with the Garrard SP25, a Sansui amp (I think it had no 17 somewhere) and some Goldman’s speakers all from Comet at the age of 16 ish. Great memories. My brother had a better system with some big Wharfdale speakers,a Pioneer turntable with a Marantz amp.
Love these shows brilliant and funny
Dual concentric or whizzer cone???
Dual concentric is also a misnomer. A speaker is just concentric, not dual concentric.
It was a single full range driver, not a concentric.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xtThat's not the point as it's a full range driver. As for dual concentric, that's marketing terminology but it does make sense. It's 2 drive units in a single package placed concentrically.
@@gaborozorai3714 You don't know the meaning of concentric. Both drivers can't be concentric, only one, therefore not dual concentric. It's a misnomer, correctly, its a two-way concentric design. Marketing is nonsense and will always be if there are those that think it makes sense and don't push back.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Whaaat? Concentric refers to multiple circles or circular objects that share the same centre point. There must be at least 2 of them. Like a mid-bass plus a tweeter placed in its centre. From this perspective you are right that "Dual" is superfluous as a concentric design certainly cannot contain just one driver.
Are they really a dual concentric or just concentric design?
Poor man's Rehdekos!
A great description, although theoretically better in at least one respect as the Chevin is not reflex ported?
Nothing that a jigsaw or multi-tool wouldn't sort out. Alternatively, blank off the ports on a pair of Rehdekos with plywood offcuts and a tube of no-nails. Having never seen or heard the Rehdekos, I won't speak ill of them, but they did seem a bit 'divisive'.
Poor man's Tannoys? :D
Fit 8” tengband drivers in them end of story
No cross over, really? The tweeter would fry without at the very least a cap.
They don’t have a tweeter.