A message for all the brains, in jars, streaming this video: This was a collaboration with Nat (from Nat and Friends) who made a really cool video on how VR is perfect for creativity. It looks at VR artists, filmmakers and UA-camrs like ME who are using tech in different ways. You can watch here (and say hi to me in the comments, please): ua-cam.com/video/fGLsbo2eoyE/v-deo.html
It's terrifying just how quickly my brain forgets where it is when I put on an Oculus Rift. I'm a reasonable person, I've studied psychology on a graduate level, and yet as soon as the screen fires up, I think I'm in a museum staring down a T-Rex. It's humbling knowing how quickly our brains can be fooled.
Are you still using vr 2 years later? I've been using mine for around 6 months now, and I feel like my brain isn't tricked anymore. It's great because there's no motion sickness or fear, but I also feel like everything in vr is less realistic now. I've disassociated with vr and it's not nearly as exciting as when I first hopped in =(
OMG! I *just* researched this for a story I wrote one social media post at a time! It's fanfic in the ST:TNG universe, from which I borrowed only the context (not characters) so I could avoid a ton of world-building and just get on with the story. Perception is thorny at all levels, from how sensation works, to how it is processed, to its philosophical aspects. A wonderful (and torturous) playground for a character. The aspects I focused on are the interdependencies of how perception affects living or having "a life", and how our "inner world" can both model and replace/supplement the outside world when available perception varies.
On vr experience games, my brain experiences the smell of smoke and warmth sitting by a virtual campfire, the feeling of vertigo on a high rise building, it's as though I'm there I find this fascinating.
Fully immersive VR (or as I call it Virtual Immersion Technology) will be a future tech revolution and maybe in this century or the next. I can imagine companies like Amazon launching digital cities and companies like Sony launching virtual immersion video game consoles and some other company making the first digital and immersible nightclub.
I'm pretty sure my brain's not in a jar, but if it really is a "thought experiment" and it's TRUE and my brain was programmed to not believe it was true, then I'd never know.
The brain in a vat thought experiment (proposed by Gilbert Harman) was solved by Hilary Putnam. It turns out that you don't need to worry about it. In fact, you've nearly cited the reason.
I enjoyed your editing and presentation. Playing sports and playing musical instruments can be like this as well. We form neural pathways that are used to doing certain tasks so that it becomes almost automatic. Language and reading can be this way too, as you pointed out in one of your videos. I'm really into virtual reality in sound. I'll send you some links about. I've been working on that since your one on our pereption of the length of lines.
Its not just in VR that you learn your surroundings, I can walk for hours without a map in world of Warcraft, and still get to where I want, because I know the locations :D
You could probably talk about the most boring thing ever such how paint dries while showing us paint actually drying and I'd still watch it and like it. Your voice is so soothing and relaxing. I wonder if this is what ASMR is. Hmm...
I just got a Vive recently. I find myself stepping over and walking around objects in VR, even though I know I can walk right through them. I also get a kind of tingling feeling in my legs, like my brain is telling me something isn't right. Also, I find it extremely weird and difficult to step off edges, steps and ledges! I really want to wear it to bed sometime, to wake up in a strange place and see how I react to it..
Yeah I'm in the Microsoft: Year 2000 simulator. Should've bought the 3000BC simulator instead, I hate the meme things that my virtual friends tag me in.
4:18 Except your brain isn't fooled: it knows the difference between VR and IRL. The Turing Test for VR would be are you wearing a headset, and the participant didn't know the answer. We're nowhere near that.
People who've never played VR always complain that the resolution is too low for it to feel real. But as this video shows, what we currently have is good enough to fool your brain. Even the lowest of budget horror games are underpants-ruin-ingly terrifying when experienced in VR, despite not having the "realistic" visual polish of a high-budget traditional horror game.
I find the philosophical concepts interesting, because the curious part of me wants to know, but the rest of me kind figures that it doesn't matter. So what if I'm a brain in a jar, or the world is an egg for me to become god while I live through every life (my favourite theory), it doesn't change my thinking or my actions. I still interpret my world exactly the same.
Great video. I hope that none of us finds out that we are inside of a jar. I get the feeling that modern virtual reality footage like this will look very dated in 5-10 years as technology progresses.
my brain is future proof... I used mobile vr with insane lags, framerate drops and it didn't bother me at all. I understand why people might feel sick.
A question regarding your video filming process: At 3:20 were the moves she made scripted, or did you come up with what to say from her moves? Just curious about how your work process is.
Jay Dee I like the idea of consciousness/reality being both an internal and external, shared hallucination. Does anyone really know anyone else? Can anyone see exactly what you're thinking? Not yet, at least. But it's beautiful to think of how humanity, the world, and our universe are all so interconnected; all through the expenditure of energy.
Thanks to Islam we have solved lots of many philosophical questions , such as why are we here and what happens after death and cloning and these kind of questions and this is one of them
What is the downside to this VR thing. I'm afraid that the majority of folks who at the beginning will be pleasured by it, but in the long run they'll become dependent on this thing. This reminds me of Total Recall by Arnold Schwarzenegger and next thing you know folks will become lobotomized. It's just like what I said in one of my songs that I've written back in 2010. "First we lived as human beings, now we walk like computer machines, stuck in a digital dream. Minds are being warped out by this cyber age, and brains are being fried like a microwave." Anyway I believe God did not design our brains to be manipulated into the virtual realm where many will be lost mentally, for the sake of momentary pleasure. Next thing I'll see a whole society being demonized and not able to tell the difference between the real world and the virtual world. I know the real world appears to be a very ugly place and so we're looking for an escape into the Virtual world, but the virtual is also the devils playground as well. The only real escape is in Jesus Christ and His Word. I see Revelation 13 on Horizon with the Mark of The Beast system. Don't be mislead by pleasure seeking folks. Seek the Kingdom of God because this World Over.
A message for all the brains, in jars, streaming this video: This was a collaboration with Nat (from Nat and Friends) who made a really cool video on how VR is perfect for creativity. It looks at VR artists, filmmakers and UA-camrs like ME who are using tech in different ways. You can watch here (and say hi to me in the comments, please): ua-cam.com/video/fGLsbo2eoyE/v-deo.html
Hi!
It's terrifying just how quickly my brain forgets where it is when I put on an Oculus Rift. I'm a reasonable person, I've studied psychology on a graduate level, and yet as soon as the screen fires up, I think I'm in a museum staring down a T-Rex. It's humbling knowing how quickly our brains can be fooled.
I think it's cool how quick our brains can adapt to VR. At least you know if you ever end up in a life or death situation you can quickly adapt.
Are you still using vr 2 years later? I've been using mine for around 6 months now, and I feel like my brain isn't tricked anymore. It's great because there's no motion sickness or fear, but I also feel like everything in vr is less realistic now. I've disassociated with vr and it's not nearly as exciting as when I first hopped in =(
I see it as a positive thing. Data is data, cant wait to be a brain in a jar.
I'm ok with my brain hooked up to a computer, but not to an iMac
:D thanks Vanessa
Ok, real comment, this stuff is so crazy. *High-five* for the awesome production quality!
This is your brain. This is your brain in a jar on VR.
4:43 lol thats me if i ever tried VR.
gotta dance like nobody's watching...and you really can't even tell that they are when you're in VR :)
OMG! I *just* researched this for a story I wrote one social media post at a time! It's fanfic in the ST:TNG universe, from which I borrowed only the context (not characters) so I could avoid a ton of world-building and just get on with the story.
Perception is thorny at all levels, from how sensation works, to how it is processed, to its philosophical aspects. A wonderful (and torturous) playground for a character. The aspects I focused on are the interdependencies of how perception affects living or having "a life", and how our "inner world" can both model and replace/supplement the outside world when available perception varies.
On vr experience games, my brain experiences the smell of smoke and warmth sitting by a virtual campfire, the feeling of vertigo on a high rise building, it's as though I'm there I find this fascinating.
the mouse is adorable.
Fully immersive VR (or as I call it Virtual Immersion Technology) will be a future tech revolution and maybe in this century or the next. I can imagine companies like Amazon launching digital cities and companies like Sony launching virtual immersion video game consoles and some other company making the first digital and immersible nightclub.
I'm pretty sure my brain's not in a jar, but if it really is a "thought experiment" and it's TRUE and my brain was programmed to not believe it was true, then I'd never know.
unfalsifiable claims are kinda tricky, huh? ; )
The brain in a vat thought experiment (proposed by Gilbert Harman) was solved by Hilary Putnam. It turns out that you don't need to worry about it. In fact, you've nearly cited the reason.
Nat and Friends exactly my thoughts. I'd probably fail as a resistance member in matrix haha
Aside from the subject being interesting as always, I really liked the stop-motion takes of the lab mouse's namesake! Clever!
Another dank af video, Nessy, keep it up!
Thanks mate!
It doesn't matter if our brains in a jar. We still have to obey the laws of this world to survive.
I enjoyed your editing and presentation. Playing sports and playing musical instruments can be like this as well. We form neural pathways that are used to doing certain tasks so that it becomes almost automatic. Language and reading can be this way too, as you pointed out in one of your videos. I'm really into virtual reality in sound. I'll send you some links about. I've been working on that since your one on our pereption of the length of lines.
Its not just in VR that you learn your surroundings, I can walk for hours without a map in world of Warcraft, and still get to where I want, because I know the locations :D
Do a video about our brain clock and how it helps us to perceive time and events, that would be really cool!
You could probably talk about the most boring thing ever such how paint dries while showing us paint actually drying and I'd still watch it and like it. Your voice is so soothing and relaxing. I wonder if this is what ASMR is. Hmm...
There are a lot of ASMR videos on UA-cam if you haven't looked.
great ending to a great video? keep up the amazing work.😍
I just got a Vive recently. I find myself stepping over and walking around objects in VR, even though I know I can walk right through them. I also get a kind of tingling feeling in my legs, like my brain is telling me something isn't right. Also, I find it extremely weird and difficult to step off edges, steps and ledges!
I really want to wear it to bed sometime, to wake up in a strange place and see how I react to it..
I really want to try VR. It must be really trippy to be literally transported to a virtual world. Although I can't dance like Nat can. lol
Just go to a bestbuy to try a Rift or a microsoft store/gamestop to try the Vive.
Yeah I'm in the Microsoft: Year 2000 simulator. Should've bought the 3000BC simulator instead, I hate the meme things that my virtual friends tag me in.
Love the Gudetama on your desk!
4:18 Except your brain isn't fooled: it knows the difference between VR and IRL. The Turing Test for VR would be are you wearing a headset, and the participant didn't know the answer. We're nowhere near that.
Well the starvr 1 has passed that test check it out
How did they put mice into a VR experience? I'm just picturing trying to put tiny oculus headsets on tiny mice. haha.
It's more of a curved screen around the mice, although tiny VR headsets would be adorable.
it was an area with walls and floors and roofs with the virtual world around it
VR Headsets are so Big & Heavy to carry? Is that Good for long-term use?
People who've never played VR always complain that the resolution is too low for it to feel real. But as this video shows, what we currently have is good enough to fool your brain. Even the lowest of budget horror games are underpants-ruin-ingly terrifying when experienced in VR, despite not having the "realistic" visual polish of a high-budget traditional horror game.
the brain in a vas, reminds me of Fallout New Vegas Big Mountain ending, where you end up talking to your brain
I find the philosophical concepts interesting, because the curious part of me wants to know, but the rest of me kind figures that it doesn't matter. So what if I'm a brain in a jar, or the world is an egg for me to become god while I live through every life (my favourite theory), it doesn't change my thinking or my actions. I still interpret my world exactly the same.
I'm definitely in a jar because when your own body starts to play up in a digital way, you start to question the analogue life you live in.
Those mice and their 'virtual experiences'
This is good input for my brain jar.
I think, therefore I am. Anything beyond that is open for interpretation
That lady's voice is interesting, i like it :d
1:31 that wolf :F
the same happens for videogames like fps
very interesting video - thought provoking
MATRIX
Was that a DHMIS reference?
I mean how common is it for a bird to be on an operating table with someone pulling out and eating its insides???
Great video. I hope that none of us finds out that we are inside of a jar.
I get the feeling that modern virtual reality footage like this will look very dated in 5-10 years as technology progresses.
I know this is the real world because there's no glitches. ;)
Kitsch Puffer Fish *Mindblown*
Or you're on a pc
O shit im in the wall excuse me
I fell and slid down a virtual mountain cliff and hurt for days. lol
There is a third option, that I am a Boltzmann brain and you people don't even exist, I'm just imagining you.
I tried VR once, it was neato but made me motion sick! :{
Lovely Vanessa ❤️
Amazing
yeah
I used the vr for 2 days and when I stopped using it things got fake in reality it’s scary I need help. When and how does it stop
It's probably just motion sickness. If you keep using it won't be so intense
I need a vr with psychical feelings
Took me a while to realize you were talking about the mammal mice and not computer mice...
MattJammer lol.. same..
Preposterous !! a mac can't game
my brain is future proof... I used mobile vr with insane lags, framerate drops and it didn't bother me at all. I understand why people might feel sick.
My internal GPS is a bit faulty
So..... Evil Within, basically?
Loving how bored Vanessa looks while on her phone while the blonde chick is taking ALL the goes on the VR. Haha.
A question regarding your video filming process: At 3:20 were the moves she made scripted, or did you come up with what to say from her moves? Just curious about how your work process is.
They were scripted! I did a bunch of research before Nat and I hung out and I directed her to do that :)
Ok, cool! Thanks for the reply (and the video)!
So is everyone going to walk on their toes in VR ? :)
Me waiting till the questX comes out
Look up "rat brain flies plane"!
My reality is merely the product of a billion neurons firing on and off...or is it?
Jay Dee I like the idea of consciousness/reality being both an internal and external, shared hallucination. Does anyone really know anyone else? Can anyone see exactly what you're thinking? Not yet, at least.
But it's beautiful to think of how humanity, the world, and our universe are all so interconnected; all through the expenditure of energy.
There are theories that our whole universe may be a simulation. So maybe our brains do not actually exist.
Thanks to Islam we have solved lots of many philosophical questions , such as why are we here and what happens after death and cloning and these kind of questions and this is one of them
I know because I take drugs XD
Hello other brain-in-the-jar people! Should I take the red or blue pill?
dunno, ask Morpheus
Hello my early friends.
3rd!
What is the downside to this VR thing. I'm afraid that the majority of folks who at the beginning will be pleasured by it, but in the long run they'll become dependent on this thing. This reminds me of Total Recall by Arnold Schwarzenegger and next thing you know folks will become lobotomized. It's just like what I said in one of my songs that I've written back in 2010. "First we lived as human beings, now we walk like computer machines, stuck in a digital dream. Minds are being warped out by this cyber age, and brains are being fried like a microwave." Anyway I believe God did not design our brains to be manipulated into the virtual realm where many will be lost mentally, for the sake of momentary pleasure. Next thing I'll see a whole society being demonized and not able to tell the difference between the real world and the virtual world. I know the real world appears to be a very ugly place and so we're looking for an escape into the Virtual world, but the virtual is also the devils playground as well. The only real escape is in Jesus Christ and His Word. I see Revelation 13 on Horizon with the Mark of The Beast system. Don't be mislead by pleasure seeking folks. Seek the Kingdom of God because this World Over.