Thank goodness you have returned to the 3002 year old guitar! I couldn't wait for you guys on my first build so of course I blame you for all my neck mistakes;) On the second one I set up the scale length to the "wrong" side of the nut...turns out you can make a "headstock placement" nut position, at least I found one pictured in Trevor Gore's book. I have taken an Anti-Chris tack on my building, use the ryoba saw to rip the neck blanks and my #7.5 and 4 Stanelys to clean them up, my Stanley #45 combo plane for the truss rod and carbon rod grooves. After 45 years of wood butcher carpentry, I'm way tired of safety glasses, respirators, ear plugs, dust, and I need the upper body workout anyway. Great to see this build resume, thanks!
For the CNC cutting of the neck, if you want a better finish, I recommend first cutting around .010" away from the final profile, then doing a finish pass at full depth of cut. You can also slow it down for the finish pass. At least that's how it's typically done for metals and plastics.
Glad y’all are back, I must say, after waiting so long for the neck it was a little disappointing to see it be mostly CNC. I understand you’ve done neck videos before etc, but after so many videos meticulously highlighting process this one felt lacking, a bit anticlimactic… I say that as someone who is a huge fan of yours and has watched just about every video, and I’ve watched this series twice through! So please don’t think I’m just complaining like someone inevitably does on every one of your amazing videos. After searching for other luthier builders it’s easy to see that y’all are by far the best. Glad you’re back at it and your business is growing.
Agree. Seems pointless having a series and then skipping the neck carving, and using CNC. Presumably thety got bored with the series, or you tube algorithm doesn't like series. Shame.
Repeatability is important and I can see the value of CNC for that reason. Having said that, of all guitar building processes, for me the most satisfying is building a neck from scratch using a bandsaw for roughing and a few of well cared for quality hand tools. But hey that’s just me. I enjoy these videos a lot as entertaining time killers but continuity is not this channel’s long suit.
Love watching your videos as I’ve learned a ton. I understand wanting to make the neck rigid with the carbon fiber rods. Have you ever seen where the extra reinforcement won’t allow the truss rod to work? Or maybe it puts too much stress on the wood around the truss rod? Just a thought I had while watching you try and flex the carbon fiber rods.
In case you are looking to ditch the straight bit, Amana makes a 3in and 4in, 3-flute downcut spiral bit. They are not cheap, though, so it may not be worth it.
There's no denying the accuracy, repeatability and quality here but for me I like doing it by hand. I find the process cathartic and rewarding, even if it does take longer.
Suggestion for you Chris. Cut your profile in less passes, but add an allowance of 10 1000ths (experiment with how much). Then do a final full depth cut to remove the allowance (and chatter). Another tip, buy a roughing end mill and do some testing with it, you'll be happy to see how effective they are at hogging out material.
Thanks for the video and glad you are back in production again. I have enjoyed your videos since I found them and actually became a patron . Here is a good tip for CNC setup or alignment. Clamp or tape & superglue a board to the bed of the CNC then machine a straight edge on the board and that is your edge that you use to determine your axis to and an easy way to set the neck blank to when tape and supergluing to the CNC bed. Although you may not get rid of the chatter with a 3" bit (that is part of the problem) you can make your initial cut a couple of thousands from the final edge and do a few final passes to clean up the chatter. Do you show how you make the mortise and tendon joint?
Chris I want to see how the StewMac truss rod works out with the extended tongue on the neck block. Will you need a long allen wrench to adjust the rod?
Hi Chris and Matt(as always), with the fret board extension in place how are you accessing the truss rod? Drilling a horizontal hole through the extension. Did you explain your process on this in a different video build?
I’ll be honest, I’ve done some research into what I can get for a kidney when I found out these things are roughly the cost of a mid-level Corolla. I’ve got one I’m not using, but I’d use a guitar all. The. Time.
In a PRS factory tour they mention that they let the necks sit for like 2 weeks between the rough shape mill and the next pass to allow the natural tension in the wood to come out. I'm curious to hear your opinion on this: is this overkill? is it something that is only possible at factory scale? does the addition of carbon fiber counteract any tension that is left after the first mill? or do you also wait and edit it out because lumber sitting on a shelf is not particularly engaging content?
The both of you have inspired me to dabble on a guitar in my shop. I love working with wood but this is a new level of attention to detail. Sure it will be a total disaster but is fun and interesting. Thanks guys! Cant wait for your next video.
If you want to make a guitar neck old school check out Ad van Kuijk's channel - the "classical guitar making, neck construction #" series. OK it is a classical guitar scarf joint neck - still watching him work those hand tools is pure heaven LOL. Thanks for the video guys!
Didn't Chris say he had to finish this guitar for the customer Christmas 2021?? I swear I remember him saying that! Anyway, I'm happy to see another episode!
Hey guys, I watched your Taylor “reacts” video and comments on scarfed necks. I thought, “hmm, I’ve been making scarfed jointed necks since day one because, you know… long grain = stiffer/better.” Then I thought, we’ll maybe someone should put it to an actual test. If your interested, here’s what we learned. ua-cam.com/play/PLdMIu4PdK7bUQTpUvHjh3_QDLBj8thLJw.html
Thank goodness you have returned to the 3002 year old guitar! I couldn't wait for you guys on my first build so of course I blame you for all my neck mistakes;) On the second one I set up the scale length to the "wrong" side of the nut...turns out you can make a "headstock placement" nut position, at least I found one pictured in Trevor Gore's book. I have taken an Anti-Chris tack on my building, use the ryoba saw to rip the neck blanks and my #7.5 and 4 Stanelys to clean them up, my Stanley #45 combo plane for the truss rod and carbon rod grooves. After 45 years of wood butcher carpentry, I'm way tired of safety glasses, respirators, ear plugs, dust, and I need the upper body workout anyway. Great to see this build resume, thanks!
This is the UA-cam content I wait for...and wait...and wait....and w.....
For the CNC cutting of the neck, if you want a better finish, I recommend first cutting around .010" away from the final profile, then doing a finish pass at full depth of cut. You can also slow it down for the finish pass. At least that's how it's typically done for metals and plastics.
Good stuff. The maple neck does look great with the binding. I think you made a good choice!
Dang perfect timing, literally checked the channel to see if there was a new video, and got the notification.
Catching up on the build!
Glad you're back. Thanks.
I love your videos. I hope to see the then 3003 year old guitar when it‘s finished….😉 Greetings from Germany 👍
Wagner safety planer, that was worth the watch...
Glad y’all are back, I must say, after waiting so long for the neck it was a little disappointing to see it be mostly CNC. I understand you’ve done neck videos before etc, but after so many videos meticulously highlighting process this one felt lacking, a bit anticlimactic… I say that as someone who is a huge fan of yours and has watched just about every video, and I’ve watched this series twice through! So please don’t think I’m just complaining like someone inevitably does on every one of your amazing videos. After searching for other luthier builders it’s easy to see that y’all are by far the best. Glad you’re back at it and your business is growing.
Agree. Seems pointless having a series and then skipping the neck carving, and using CNC. Presumably thety got bored with the series, or you tube algorithm doesn't like series. Shame.
Repeatability is important and I can see the value of CNC for that reason. Having said that, of all guitar building processes, for me the most satisfying is building a neck from scratch using a bandsaw for roughing and a few of well cared for quality hand tools. But hey that’s just me. I enjoy these videos a lot as entertaining time killers but continuity is not this channel’s long suit.
ive had my first born son during this series, my 2nd has also graduated with his doctorate.
Love watching your videos as I’ve learned a ton. I understand wanting to make the neck rigid with the carbon fiber rods. Have you ever seen where the extra reinforcement won’t allow the truss rod to work? Or maybe it puts too much stress on the wood around the truss rod? Just a thought I had while watching you try and flex the carbon fiber rods.
In case you are looking to ditch the straight bit, Amana makes a 3in and 4in, 3-flute downcut spiral bit. They are not cheap, though, so it may not be worth it.
There's no denying the accuracy, repeatability and quality here but for me I like doing it by hand. I find the process cathartic and rewarding, even if it does take longer.
I think the maple does look really good. It is good to see you guys back in the saddle again. 😎
Back to building and videos- whoot! whoot!
Kimball Hardwoods has some bad-ass stuff. I'm sure you are aware of that group. Good to see a video from the new digs... lookin' great!!
Suggestion for you Chris. Cut your profile in less passes, but add an allowance of 10 1000ths (experiment with how much). Then do a final full depth cut to remove the allowance (and chatter). Another tip, buy a roughing end mill and do some testing with it, you'll be happy to see how effective they are at hogging out material.
Thanks for the video and glad you are back in production again. I have enjoyed your videos since I found them and actually became a patron . Here is a good tip for CNC setup or alignment. Clamp or tape & superglue a board to the bed of the CNC then machine a straight edge on the board and that is your edge that you use to determine your axis to and an easy way to set the neck blank to when tape and supergluing to the CNC bed. Although you may not get rid of the chatter with a 3" bit (that is part of the problem) you can make your initial cut a couple of thousands from the final edge and do a few final passes to clean up the chatter. Do you show how you make the mortise and tendon joint?
Thanks Chris. And I suppose Mat too. Hahaha. I’ve been waiting for this.
Love you guys, great videos, entertaining… and informative.
Chris I want to see how the StewMac truss rod works out with the extended tongue on the neck block. Will you need a long allen wrench to adjust the rod?
Awesome I have been waiting to see an update such a beautiful guitar 😍
I was expecting this, thanks
Check out McIlvaine lumber!
Awesome! Been waiting for this one!
Me too. Seems like it was a permanently shelved project. Right on...
Looks great.
Hi Chris and Matt(as always), with the fret board extension in place how are you accessing the truss rod? Drilling a horizontal hole through the extension. Did you explain your process on this in a different video build?
Aha! I saw what you do in the Woodstock guitar video! Awesome!
I have to cut down an Ash tree in Wisconsin soon. Not sure the condition but it is a big tree with a huge trunk.
I’ll be honest, I’ve done some research into what I can get for a kidney when I found out these things are roughly the cost of a mid-level Corolla.
I’ve got one I’m not using, but I’d use a guitar all. The. Time.
I’d ALMOST given up on this series. Faith temporarily restored! 🤔
In a PRS factory tour they mention that they let the necks sit for like 2 weeks between the rough shape mill and the next pass to allow the natural tension in the wood to come out. I'm curious to hear your opinion on this: is this overkill? is it something that is only possible at factory scale? does the addition of carbon fiber counteract any tension that is left after the first mill? or do you also wait and edit it out because lumber sitting on a shelf is not particularly engaging content?
What is the dimension of the carbon fiber reinforcement rods that you use?
The both of you have inspired me to dabble on a guitar in my shop. I love working with wood but this is a new level of attention to detail. Sure it will be a total disaster but is fun and interesting. Thanks guys! Cant wait for your next video.
If you want to make a guitar neck old school check out Ad van Kuijk's channel - the "classical guitar making, neck construction #" series. OK it is a classical guitar scarf joint neck - still watching him work those hand tools is pure heaven LOL. Thanks for the video guys!
Yeah hé has nice and peacefull video's with excellent skill
Didn't Chris say he had to finish this guitar for the customer Christmas 2021??
I swear I remember him saying that! Anyway, I'm happy to see another episode!
Is this the same actual guitar? I feel like I’ve seen more than one body in the shop from that piece of spruce?
Hey guys, I watched your Taylor “reacts” video and comments on scarfed necks. I thought, “hmm, I’ve been making scarfed jointed necks since day one because, you know… long grain = stiffer/better.” Then I thought, we’ll maybe someone should put it to an actual test. If your interested, here’s what we learned. ua-cam.com/play/PLdMIu4PdK7bUQTpUvHjh3_QDLBj8thLJw.html
But Friendship _is_ Magic! 🦄
What CAD & CAM software(s) are you using?
I used Vcarve Pro in this video.
Bom dia faça um sorteio pra nós guitars muito bonita
Oh, glory day!
Sorry… but you can only make NEW guitars.
No matter how old the materials are the “guitar” will be new.
Otherwise EVERYTHING is billions years old.
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