Why We Chose SYIL CNC Machine Tools
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
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I / we have 200,000 students currently enrolled on our Free Academy. We also have countless shop owners who learned the trade from us … and purchased equiptment and started their own shops.
With rising prices and machine quality dropping … most will never have an opportunity to purchase a CNC Machine…
Not everyone is built to be a banker, doctor or lawyer.
Syil gives American students who may not be built for a regular college, an opportunity to chose to buy a machine instead of paying for college… then they can learn on our Academy for FREE and enter the workforce or buy more machines and manufacture parts in the USA.
It also lets more people have an opportunity to start their own shops in the US and around the world… which allows more manufacturing to be done in America.
Syil is a GREAT machine at a really low price.
Manufacturing will grow larger in the USA… because of the opportunities that our students get and because many will be able to purchase machines etc
Over the last decade you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the world that has done more for American manufacturing than Titans of CNC.
Having the best technology in the world at the lowest price, allows American companies to stay competitive and stay in business. It allows American companies to hire machinists… instead of laying them off.
Now, average machinists have an opportunity to grow and have their own machine in their garage. It’s up to them… where they take their dream to after that.
Sky is the Limit.
I went to bed anticipating a follow up video. Really excited to see what you guys can do with em. Definitely a vacuum from American machine tool companies right now and someone was going to fill that void. In the future when life quits kicking my teeth in I’d be glad to finance one of these from y’all.
So an average machinist can afford a house in California with a garage and afford a new CNC? Oh ok.
Not everyone is in California. That’s why we moved to Texas… so all my guys could afford houses.
@@rickyhammer6832 I’m an average machinist with no garage. So my master bedroom and bathroom and part of my kitchen became a machine shop. Outside my laundry room/heat treating department, sits an air compressor and blast cabinet. My nightstand is an A grade Precision Granite surface plate. When you want it you don’t let anything get in the way!
@@durangotang1681 Well said! If you need an excuse NOT to do something it is super easy to find one. If you want to be successful, you have to be willing to make sacrifices and to put the work in.
Super excited to develop training content for these videos. A lot of people may not realize this, but by us partnering with Syil, we will have inside access to the manufacturer themselves and if we see any issues, we may can have some influence on getting them resolved. That would be another win for anyone that purchases these machines.
We have one where I teach. Neat machine. But they need to include a multi tap transformer. The transformer is 240-380. Needs taps for 220-380, 480-380, etc. And Table machined for jergens ball lock would be great. Modify the castings to take a pallet jack without having to lift machine off the floor. We bought with the tool probe, thought it came with spindle probe as well. Does not. Need to have that as an option.
Tool probe was an option, but not spindle probe. Need to have as a kit.
@@danielquatrone4654 Thanks for the input! I have these wrote down and will bring it up to them and see what we can do!
jessie, we need to cook
The transformer issue was a real problem for us. Took a lot to get sorted out. Lack of spindle probe is an issue also. @@Jessie_Smith
I've been eyeing Syil for a while now. Seeing you guys not only support, but full on sell them def. sheds a new light.
Game changer for machinists who want to start and grow their own business out of their garage! Love it!👏 Something of this quality and affordability makes me want to get one👀
Absolutely
Do it man. I made the plunge as someone brand new to CNC at a time where I didn’t really even know (completely) what I was buying and I have zero regrets. The community has been amazing. No ego, just pure positivity and more than willing to help new users get their feet under them.
Or you can buy an older machine
I had a syil x7 for one year and I made $250k with it. Very capable machine!
That's awesome! Good work!👏
Nice one James, how is the Speedio going?
Cheers Rob Bingham
@@MrRctintin we got 2 Fanuc robodrills. They are great!
Why did you sell it?
@@mkemachineinc.8058 needed something faster. Hence the robodrill
I went to Syil’s website looking for info on the structure/build. Nothing about ballscrew size, linear rail size, type or class. Not one single picture of the electrical cabinet layout. No info about servo drives, single axis drives or is it multi axis drive unit? Overall no information on the serviceability of the machine. I bring these points up because I’ve been a maintenance man forever and a new shop owner could be in for a shock when it comes time to replace/repair something. Great job job trying to help out the startups.
You can request everything from them. Also a lot of documentation included when you buy the machine. Since a lot of parts are branded, they include their documents in the machine too.
Electrical cabinet layout is very very neat and they give you a wiring diagram too
I have an X7 and as far as I can tell, there are no proprietary parts that I’ve come across outside of the control. I added wireless probing, a 4th axis, a chip conveyor and filtermist myself.
Anything you could conceive of a need of having to replace is available next day from automation direct or similar domestic industrial supplier with the exception of the spindle and mechanical components which are somewhat custom.
Coupled with a fully unlocked controller that lets you get in and perform maintenance activities, adjust parameters or whatever else you need to do without having to pay for a special license to unlock access or get someone else involved at several hundred dollars an hour.
There’s still work to be done in terms of delivering a 100% complete finished product but in no way is it like you’re pushed into a corner and left with no options.
It’s not too good to be true.
Service tech myself, HAAS came back with this by opening troubleshooting up to the public. Machines now output a QR code for simple and well-explained troubleshooting! I am curious though as a tech as to how these work underneath, and how approachable the geometry alignment/adjustment is
I haven't had chance to do a little research but I have to say it sounded like a group of used car salesman.Not even a little grumble or dislike. Sounds to good to be true. I hope you prove me wrong. All the best. Jp
One always should seek different source for info. There are many reviews already about this brand on youtube, and there are Facebook groups with owners of the machines. Of course Titans are exited about the product, or else they would not bother to present it to their large audience out there. One should assume they got a good eye for CNC machines and quailty as they themselves got the most advance brands in use themselves. There is always the cost vs quailty vs output factor.
Congratulations guys! I am on Aaron's channel, the guy from Australia, who owns Syil machine for years. Great machine.
WE NEED A WEBPAGE THAT DISPLAYS ALL THE PRICES AND EXPLANATIONS IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE TORMACH WEBPAGE DOES. That webpage is well done and explanative specially displaying prices and finance!
Exited for the next step for titans of cnc 🎉
When TITAN realizes there's more money in selling machines vs making parts BOOM! Happy to see the latest shift and sucess! Been looking at SYIL for the past couple of years.
The distribution of the Syil machines is first of all to help more people, viewers, users of their Academy, getting started at a reasonable cost. Making high end parts will still be their far biggest business) It great seeing them as distributor for these machines, with their great expertise
@Rimrock300 errrr you do know they sell more than the syil machines right?
I’ve been watching your channel forever it seems. The funny thing is that I’m not even in this industry (yet). Currently I’m active duty and retiring from aviation maintenance after 20 years. This just makes me excited for the next step in my future career and how I have to become a sponge and be willing to learn.
How will these be serviced? Can you make an online quote generator like haas?
I choose HAAS machine tools, because I want to buy and support American made products. Because I live in America. Does SYIL even have service support and parts in the US? Are these machines made in China?
We have 200,000 students currently enrolled on our Free Academy. We also have countless shop owners who learned the trade from us … and purchased equiptment and started their own shops…
With rising prices and machine quality dropping … most will never have an opportunity to purchase a CNC Machine…
Not everyone is built to be a banker, doctor or lawyer.
Syil gives American students who may not be built for a regular college, an opportunity to choose to buy a machine instead of paying for college… then they can learn on our Academy for FREE and enter the workforce or buy more machines and manufacture parts in the USA.
It also lets more people have an opportunity to start their own shops in the US and around the world… which allows more manufacturing to be done in America.
Syil is a GREAT machine at a really low price.
Manufacturing will grow larger in the USA… because of the opportunities that our students get and because many will be able to purchase affordable machines etc
Over the last decade you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the world that has done more for American manufacturing than Titans of CNC.
Having the best technology in the world at the lowest price, allows American companies to stay competitive
Yeahp what you do and how you do it really matter.
I will buy one of these soon.
Thanks again Titan.
I feel like if they had done a video or two showcasing these machines. Then announcing a partnership and extreme praise for a budget machine. Wouldn't have left a "sellout" kind of impression. I'm sure the machines are good. I'm just cynical
I know it seems like they're being sellouts here, but I think it's just more about how exciting it is to be able to get such a good machine for so cheap. It's really going to push the industry to offer more value for customers. I've been on SYIL's facebook group for over a year now and people share their parts and their experience. That group is filled with people that are giving constant praise to these machines and the parts that come off of them look insanely good.
Maybe do some research first before you call sellout!! My X7 is 3yrs old, never let me down and holds a 25-30 micron accuracy in repeatability.
@@TylerBrigham this is actually incorrect. I know the Syil brand and CEO for over 5 yrs now, and I have owned my X7 for 3 years. Syil simply do not have the finances to pay for something like this, it’s simply not true.
@@MrRctintin if you say so. Must be true
@@TylerBrigham so you have proof what you are saying is true?
Don’t think so….
Entry level light machine. Looks good, but more shameless advertising to come. Does it have a chip auger? What tool holders does it use?
BT30 on X5 and X7, CT40 on X9. Yes, it has a chip conveyor, $3750
There is a belt type chip conveyor option for the X7 and up. I have one in my garage. Integrates with the control panel and appears to be very well built.
You guys are so inspiring. Not only are you helping uplift the trade in USA, but you are helping people all over the world to chase their own dreams and make it happen! I am eternally grateful for all your effort in these videos, the academy and I’m so glad you can continue to fund free education through selling these machines. Thank you
insane. just thinking about getting brand spanking new proper robo drill for 30k is insane. can't wait for titans insane cuts insane surfaces ans speed on that 20k rpm spindle. boom
For brand new price and being modern, this is something i would buy
I have a x7 just arrived 2 weeks ago I love the machine and I am so excited that Titan have taken them on board. Love you guys.
Aussie Benchrest
Are you planning on reviewing the Syil lathe offerings? The L2 & L3?
What is missed a lot time with this machines is, that you can buy 3-4 machines for the price of one western machine. Even if they might be less reliable, but in general you multiply your productivity for the same time, or add redundancy.
Is it true that SYIL doesn't have technical support here in the US?
They have always had support, but not like Haas support. But they rarely go wrong, and if they do, it’s easy to work on and fix yourself. I would have absolutely no issue with changing my X7 spindle myself if required.
We will be supporting this with contract techs in all areas in the future. I feel we will have that in place before your 1 year warranty period expires
Me and my wife are looking for a machine to get for our startup business “Aversa Workholding” going and this machine just changed my business plan. Thank you. I’ll be reaching out to y’all in the near future. Thank you Titan and team!
buy a Haas.
I've seen these for a couple of years, they're small and affordable, easy to dedicate to a job, just haven't been sure how long they'd hold in there. Then, of course, the need for tsc
There’s guys on the fb groups that run these things 12 hrs a day and have had no real maintenance requirements beyond the usual stuff.
I really want to buy one of these machines but don’t have a clue how to use it any schooling available
what is the biggest table Syil mill has?
I was recently laid off from General Atomics after 16 years. Programmed 5 axis and now can’t see myself going to work for any of the companies that I have interviewed for. My wife and I are in San Diego. Looking into the zoning situation if we can legally run a small shop out of our 2 car garage. Will also be getting a seat of Mastercam. Do they have sales people that can come to the house to help me with placement and power possibilities? Thanks for the video.
What’s up Shane. Sorry about that… but things happen for a reason and maybe, this is the best thing that ever happened to you.
Yes, we can help with all of that… just reach out to keith@titansofcnc.com
@@TITANSofCNC Thanks for responding. Wishing your team the best. Have a good day.
Thanks, 2 of my guys are from General Atomics. Great Machinists.
@@TITANSofCNC Good to hear. I’ve worked with and learn from the best there. Then one day 400 employees packing it up. Crazy. I actually got in early to finish a project. Once the part came off the machine the boss gave me the news. Oh well. We’ll figure it out. Good day sir.
I installed the kinetic cutter at atomic
I've had a Syil x7 now for just over 2 years. It's been great!
Great working. SYIL cnc Good speed
Hey guys I love the content. I’ve been doing your programming tutorials I just finished the Fusion demos and now I’m doing the Mastercam but I can’t download the Rocket Tool Library for Mastercam. It keeps saying page not found when you click on it
Are you guys going to carry the cnc lathe?
Yes
Yes, we have the entire line up. L2 and L3 coming in April
Where can we find the power / torque curve of those spindles ?
We will eventually have them directly on our website
They used to have them all uploaded on their website in the service portal but with all the reconstruction going on it seems like they’ve taken away access to that.
I recently posted a video that displays an image of what the torque and hp curves actually are. In the testing I have done so far, I’ve found the 100% continuous ratings to be very accurate (within a few %).
Kindly share some power consumption info of these machines for different operating conditios as well for different materials
Hey Titan, can the X5 run on 220v single phase 50hz? I need a couple of machines in Europe, but getting them there is its own can of worms, where shipping starts to make sense.
With the LNC control it is a single phase machine
@@kgranno im more concerned with different frequencies. 50 vs 60hz
16 horsepower in that little package has me with buyers remorse on my little Haas TM0-P. Do you guys have distribution to Canada by any chance?
Possibly in the future, right now they do have a distributor
Check out the CanCam Z540 for Canada.
@@alexanderjamesINC Wow, didn't know those guys existed (moved to California 4.5 years ago). That CanCam is a LOT of machine for ~40K USD - 20"x16" process area, Fanuc controller and servos, and Robodrill-fast rapids.
Think you should buy a SHW and an Unisign also 👍🏻
Can these be used on a single phase 110
You will need 12 outlets.
You will need 12 outlets.
@@frankgrabasse4642 awe for real? Yeah I can’t have that
Unfortunately not 110V you can run off your washer and dryer out which is 220V single phase
@titansofcnc @Jessie_Smith thinking about an X11 - how would it handle 17-4 or 6Al-4V? When would you consider a DNM5700 instead?
Hello! These are great questions. Our team would love to help you select the best machine for your needs. Keith Granno will be able to answer any questions or concerns you have. If you fill out this form, he will be in touch. titansofcnc.com/pages/talk-to-keith
Love my SYIL V5. I wouldn't have gotten it without the CAD/CAM education Titans of CNC made available. Now I love throwing chips in 6AL4V on my mill.
Where are these machines made?
Why not ask to what specs are the machines made?? Anyone can make machines these days, in a lot of different countries, the knowledge is out there, easy obtainable
China
@@Rimrock300 because country of origin is important to a US manufacturing base. Last I checked Syil is a Chinese company of about 20 people. Their collective capitol is around $5000. They do not make their own machines but contract them out. I would think long and hard before throwing money at them. The DEM 4000 would be a much better machine with an established control, from a well known manufacturer then any of these SYIL products.
I would not want them as training machines either, their use of non standard controls mean that knowledge of their proprietary control will not transfer over to a haas or fanuc machine with ease.
I agree, a good general advice is go for well established brands, from 'low risk' countries, when your economics allow for it. At the same time many sucessful businesses within machining have been started based on lower cost brands. A few years back the norm would be 'Chinese manufatured CNC? Stay away, it's allways bad', but as of today, less so. There is a market for low cost entry machines, and a brand like SYIL is there to help fill it. I do not got personal experience with the machines, but seems to be quite a few of them around, among else in the US, the EU. From video reports owner of the newer versions seems to be fairly happy with what they got at the price. with these lower cost brands one usually do not got the 'luxuary' of picking up the phone and a serviceman with parts are stepping up at the door 30 minutes later) Anyway, each and one should think and check around well before investing into a CNC machine, no matter brand and cost level. @@TheTinkeringMachinist
@@Rimrock300 So I guess the question comes down to what kind of risk you are willing to take. My concern is that startups will see the cheap price and promises and jump on something like this. When really a startup needs a reliable machine, much more then an established machine shop. When one of these SYiLs goes down due to some control integration issue that cannot be fixed on the phone, how long before they send someone out to fix the issue? This kind of thing would be a factory level support problem that Titans group will not be equipped to fix.
It seems like these machines will compete with the likes of the DEM4000, haas mini mill/Toolroom mills, possibly even Hurco VM5i. at a starting price of $30k they are already bumping into established brand price ranges. I'm also going to guess the $30k is a starting price range for their smallest machine. Once you add a few options and installation, you could be in the 40k range.
My take is SYIL is a hobby level machine like Tormach. They seem to be more stout then the tormach machines, but I would not want to start a business using either of those brands.
What million dollar machine has 128mb of system storage? 😂
We regularly use programs that are over 1mil lines of code long lol. Given our 800mm mills are 200k chf and our biggest 5x with almost 2m was indeed 1mil chf, however theyre swiss made.
What phase converter would ya'll run so I could use the more updated controls in my garage?
You can get the machine in single phase as well , I’m running 2 of them at the same time in my garage
Pretty interesting machines. Just curious what is the X, Y, Z travels? Thank you for sharing
The link to more info is in the video description
Could you talk about the HSK spindle option on these machines? Is it good for stainless steel, why would you get it, who should get it. I haven't found anything about it yet, but it's listed as an option.
will you be getting the rest of their line up and will you carry spare parts, looks like everything stays at the warehouse in china
Yes, we will have the entire line up, and parts are out of Houston
Have you been out to see these machines being made in China?
Are your SYLE machines available in 5 axis?
Absolutely. They have a U5 that is a 5 axis mill. You can get it with a Syntec or a Heidenhain control.
Love Barry’s almost indistinguishable “beautiful finishes” remark @ 11:41
I'm guessing that these take at least a 240 Volt 3 PHASE outlet? (I could not find that information on Syil website). In my experience, there is never 3 phase electric available outside my house. Maybe if you live on a major road then that is possible, but I have never had it. So if that is the case, then what? A phase converter...which costs a bit of money also. Thanks for your input Titans of CNC.
I am running my X7 off of a phase converter. From there, the 3 phase 220 is supplied to the transformer that is supplied with the machine which steps it up to 380v. If you have the capacity to add a welding circuit in your garage then you have the capability to run one of these machines.
I have a new X7 with LNC6800 in UK - not had a chance to use it yet due to bereavement knocking me sideways. So I'm really looking forward to your content on these machines to inspire, and help me find my mojo again.
Good luck buddy, I’m in the U.K. as well, had my X7 for 3yrs. Are you on the Syil users group on FB?
same here....s
Nice to see a budget friendly machine. I might pick one up at some point. I will say I do not like that they assembled in China.
Is China 1 factory, everyone is the same and every products the same quality..? There are 1.5 billion people, different people, different ideas, different qualities. It's no rocket science to assemble CNC machines today, a lot of comapnies and people an do it, the knowledge is all over. There are different soures of information about for exampe SYIL machines out there. One can seek info with different people, not base all info on just 1 source.
@@Rimrock300 I in no way was implying that the quality of the machine was bad. I in fact for the cost, think the opposite. I simply believe that having any of your production in China is a bad thing. Given how they disappeared all those people in Hong Kong and soon will do the same to Taiwan. This may have an impact on say, the availability of the machines or even some parts. War is bad for business and people, but humanity finds a way to get there anyway over, and over, and over again.
@@EricDraven-zd2oy I live in Hong Kong, and lived through the riots and terrorism of 2019. Now, it's all coming out - the US funding for the terror activities, the distribution of funds around the world for supporting organisations and NGOs, everything is open information. Never mind the fact that NO ONE was 'disappeared', and that every single piece of news the US received on Hong Kong was utterly false. Yes, this is all plain as day. The claims of people disappearing, or being murdered by police were all fake, unless of course, every single one of those people didn't have a name, had no friends, relatives or work colleagues looking for them. Not even ghosts, but imaginary ghosts.
For those of us who lived through it, watched the city burn, saw the rioters set human beings on fire, attack women, beat innocent people unconscious, and cause tens of millions of dollars worth of damage, only to have Western 'experts' turn every incident into lies, is just insulting. All of the attacks on my city, and the lies spread in Western press are all focused specifically to make YOU believe that China is evil, and to soften you up to the idea of going to war. When you learn that the top anti-China NGOs and 'think tanks' get funding from US weapons contractors, you'll begin to understand that war IS the business. War is a Trillion dollar per year industry, in the US.
I dream of a "Syil CNC grinder" in same X5/X7 quality/price way to democratize sharpening and reduce the cost of entry into this trade.
You can make carbide tools on a regular CNC mill. Pretty sure AB Tools does this.
@@oldscratch3535 I am a (very small) carbide endmills reseller, I want to respond more quickly to customer needs.
A CNC tool grinder like a Walter HeliTronic Power is impossible to make profitable for a small workshop, even the smallest grinder from Walter (like new Helitronic G200 for example) or from other well known brands exceeds $230k without counting all the basic accessories/options.
I think there is a place for a manufacturer like Syil to offer a more affordable cnc tool grinder for small tools production and sharpening.
But I didn't find it.
There remains the opportunity to find a second-hand machine, I'm waiting for the right opportunity ;-)
Is the machine able to shape out some parts of mining drilling machines?
Of course. About any parts of metal that fits the size of the machines, and able to manufacture with 3 or 4 axis CNC mills.
Made China?
We have 200,000 students currently enrolled on our Free Academy. We also have countless shop owners who learned the trade from us … and purchased equiptment and started their own shops…
With rising prices and machine quality dropping … most will never have an opportunity to purchase a CNC Machine…
Not everyone is built to be a banker, doctor or lawyer.
Syil gives American students who may not be built for a regular college, an opportunity to choose to buy a machine instead of paying for college… then they can learn on our Academy for FREE and enter the workforce or buy more machines and manufacture parts in the USA.
It also lets more people have an opportunity to start their own shops in the US and around the world… which allows more manufacturing to be done in America.
Syil is a GREAT machine at a really low price.
Manufacturing will grow larger in the USA… because of the opportunities that our students get and because many will be able to purchase affordable machines etc
Over the last decade you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the world that has done more for American manufacturing than Titans of CNC.
Having the best technology in the world at the lowest price, allows American companies to stay competitive
@@TITANSofCNC simple question. Made in China? What does the build tag say on the back of the machine?
SYIL is based and made in China, yes@@edwardconner9274
Owner name they mentioned Mr. Shoo
When are you going to bring some of them in with Siemens?
when someone has odred one with that system, I guess. There are quite a few different options, maybe they will have a small stock of the most popular versions, but guess most machines will be made according to customer wishes and there will be a few months deliverytime. 3 months maybe
@@Rimrock300 Siemens control on a machine like that is huge for education. Bc a lot of shops are switching to Siemens. Need to train the gen of machinist
Good point@@danielstrubel1016
Ooooooooo niiiiiccceeeeeeeeee
Absolute encoders in the servo’s - no homing required. 😄
Exactly!! Great call
Hey TITANS I'm 15 years old and I have a paction for getting into CNC do you have any tips on how to start you own CNC machine shop
Hello! Great question! We have a variety of videos on our UA-cam channel discussing this very topic. academy.titansofcnc.com/series/how-to-build-a-cnc-machine-shop
Brilliant plan.
Well done.
Anything for the lathe guys?
Yes
Linen closets in the US must be huge 😂
Guys I’m sold I’m uk based I’ve touched base with them, I want to make a career in machining I’m a total novice but I absolutely love machining
I would likely looked up local classes, in addition to getting into the educational material at Titans website. Path forward depends on if you are to do it as a full time job, or more like a side hussle. There is quite a lot of knowledge to take in about different material, tools and more. also much much general info at youtube in general about machining. Being pretty accurate, into the details, is quite important when going into machining I would say. Good luck
i getting one
It would be interesting to look at NCT Manufacturer as well, I believe they would be a great partner too
My only issue with Syil over Tormach, is the weight of the machine.
But the weight means it’s stiff and gives amazing surface finish
Syil and Tormach are in two different classes
Can you not offload because of the weight?
@@MrRctintin True, but if I'm dropping it in a garage, the concrete pad thickness is a concern.
@@Rimrock300 Agree.
What do you think of mazaks?
They got other brands keeping them occupied, no need to think about something they do not got. Mazak are great too, a top end brand. All brands need service and parts, it's much about having a good dealer close up, no matter brand
Sadly still too big for my door entry 😂 But i was looking at the x5 for some time. Is there ever a thinking of going Euro Pallet Size?
Maybe with financing I could ditch the trusty Fadal in the garage
Please talk about low priced lathes
Do you have North American distribution or just USA?
Let's see the Syil being put to work please. And big diameter holes with low hp machines!
Example I'm trying to drill 25mm hole through 1.25 " steel
Tool storage too, My endmill collection is out of control!!
It’s not quite as big as what you’re after but we took a 16mm carbide endmill straight into steel at 224 SFM and 14 IPM, 1.5” deep with no chip breaking. No bogging, no bullshit despite the cut being within a few % of the theoretical max at that rpm.
I have found their 100% spindle load ratings to be very accurate so far. Within a few %
I was on the fence about buying one and now after hearing the Pro's talk about it the way you guy did make the choice easier. Im buying one ASAP. May be calling you guys soon. Appreciate you sharing.
@TitanSofCNC as always taking big decisions to help the community. Some machines that are built here in Asia really offer a lot for not much money. Syil is one of them. Good job as always.
The Syil X7 is a great buy, 3Gigs of memory is incredible for a 3 axis machine.
I run a 24 year old Okuma ES-V3016 at work. 64k memory! Yes, I said that right 64k!
I have to constantly "Dumb down" my programs by eliminating lead in radius for a straight or split them into parts.
Don’t you always preach about bringing back American manufacturing but now you sold out to a Chinese CNC manufacturer? Haas or Fadal can do anything these cheap Syils can.
What about the Haas cast frames manufactured in China? Oh, and the Controls…. Guess where they are made…..
2 US companies....is that really ALL we can choose from in this world...? The size of business of those 2 companies are peanuts compared to the potential of more Americans starting up manufacturing, with whatever brands of machines they like. Feel free to go for Haas and Fadal, nobody is stopping you or others.
I get the angle on this comment but the only thing HAAS on a HAAS is the sheet metal and the control.
I think being able to manufacture in the U.S because you could afford a worthy machine is better than letting more work leave the country, plus as mentioned, there's hardly anything you can buy without global components
I / we have 200,000 students currently enrolled on our Free Academy. We also have countless shop owners who learned the trade from us … and purchased equiptment and started their own shops.
With rising prices and machine quality dropping … most will never have an opportunity to purchase a CNC Machine…
Not everyone is built to be a banker, doctor or lawyer.
Syil gives American students who may not be built for a regular college, an opportunity to chose to buy a machine instead of paying for college… then they can learn on our Academy for FREE and enter the workforce or buy more machines and manufacture parts in the USA.
It also lets more people have an opportunity to start their own shops in the US and around the world… which allows more manufacturing to be done in America.
Syil is a GREAT machine at a really low price.
Manufacturing will grow larger in the USA… because of the opportunities that our students get and because many will be able to purchase machines etc
Over the last decade you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the world that has done more for American manufacturing than Titans of CNC.
Having the best technology in the world at the lowest price, allows American companies to stay competitive and stay in business. It allows American companies to hire machinists… instead of laying them off.
Now, average machinists have an opportunity to grow and have their own machine in their garage. It’s up to them… where they take their dream to after that.
Sky is the Limit.
Question should be why do you preach mfg in America but then distribute for a Chinese machine company.
I think this is needed. Not only is it famtastic entry level but it needs to make others re think on what they are doing. Haas in particular, the quality there is 🥴
The SYIL is made in China. I feel like you did something wrong here
Titans did not decide where SYIL was to put their prodution and headquater. No wrongdoing there.
Financing? I really need to get a machine to expand my business into machining.
check their homepage
Oh MAN. I've been looking at getting a smaller machine/setup to install in my garage
how on earth do you make a a 3GB program? thats roughly 3 billion charcters
Does the Syil X9 has the ability to track spindle orientation to perform broaching operations ?
Fanuc is terrible... I'd love to switch in my workplace from it to siemens..
please remember that we use the metric system here in Europe.
They are the distributor for the USA.
@@Rimrock300 Yes yes yes, we clearly all know that but they already have a huge audience all over the metric world so It will bring more value to their videoes and thereby even more audience and with very little effort. Win win right.
I'm a metric man myself, but must admit I'm not too concerned about them talking and showing priniples having inch as the basis. But I would not mind them using more metric in their videos, no problem with that. @@wulff64
Next step is Titan branded syil cnc machines.
8:12 japanese and swiss are foreign too 😂😅
Sadly all premium machines are foreign. I believe you have to get the best technology at the best price so you can compete in a global market and hire Americans. Americans can hire and compete instead of laying workers off.
@@TITANSofCNC I understand completely. Question. Have you been deleting comments under your videos? I noticed a guy was critical of this machine and then in 10 min his comment disappeared. 🤔
@@ninjaabcde Typically comments only get deleted if people voice their concerns in a disrespectful way, i.e. "you're a sellout", "you only care about a paycheck", etc.. not only are those things completely untrue, they are disrespectful so we delete those.
@@trevorgoforth8963 alright
Thank you for the transparency!
made in where ?
Planet of Earth
China
i want to buy your demo x7 lol
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I was blown asay when i heard that with Haas yoh had to pay thousands of extras for rigid tapping and macro features.
SYIL does make good machines, and they are actually the only independently owned machine tool company in China. I would get them with the Sinumerik control as parts availability will always be better than with the ADTECH one.
This machine will last half the time then a haas, i would recommend spending more money
Link?
@@Rimrock300 having a belt motor driven spindle makes it las less because it brakes after some time
Not sure what you mean. A belt needs to be changed after a certain number of hours, like one change fan belt on a car. Gear or belt driven, the spindle bearings will be worn. @nandez2873
8:42 $19.5k for the machine with the LNC control? Is that right?
Such a competitive business anymore ! is MAZAK even selling much anymore ? lol
They are the biggest I believe. It’s a love / hate relationship with industry though.
Boom
They're not significantly more expensive than a tormach. I have a tormach and the syil is way more than double the machine for less than double the price.
Why am i going to go spend $39,000 on a huge washing machine sized piece of equipment when someone can just go get a 3018 and make anything for less than $200? This is a silly video
It is over for haas I think.
Haas has been around since '83, still here even there has been quite a few cheap Asian brands for quite some years already. Haas got the advange (or at least potential) with fast service when something goes wrong, especially at the US market. Even if there are several cheap Asian brabds aviable that can do the same job as Haas the challenge has been getting parts and service within reasonable time when things grinds to a stop. Don't need many days of production down before the money one save going for a cheaper machine is eaten up. Possible the service and aviability of parts will be relatively good with SYIL, but it's a big maret out there, with room for many brands and price brackets.