@@Jane-kx8go Mad headmistress being so over the top with her mistreatment of the children that no parent will believe them? A wretched pair of parents who cannot fathom their daughter being anything even important to the world? I'd say that's darkness for a child, the kind that many know, so it's definitely an expected darkness.
@@Jane-kx8go apparently it was meant to be a lot more dark, I don’t remember why it was changed though, and also you should probably take this comment with a grain of salt since I don’t remember most of the details lmao
Another thing about this that’s sad is that Charlie has walked by the Chocolate factory gate twice a day to school and back home. Each time he does this he can’t help but smell the delicious chocolate from the factory and tries/attempts to eat the smell itself which adds more torture to poor Charlie.
"Eat the smell" fuck dude you describe his actions so well I literally recalled a memory of me doing the same as a child. Except this was outta desperation 💔
@@HarmlessCommentSame. We lived about 30 mins away but went to Chocolate World often. As soon as we saw the Hershey Kiss streetlights, we knew to roll the windows down. Lol
@@jaykay8426 I don't think Pinocchio counts as he was written by Carlo Collodi, who had portrayed the wooden puppet to be a huge jerk. Though I can see what you mean. Pinocchio needing to learn how to be good by resisting temptations to be turned into a real boy is great motivation but, Collodi wanted him to die originally, before getting backlash to change it. So it's hard to say otherwise.
As someone who grew up in hostile environment, I resonated so hard with Matilda. Being overtly smart didnt save me from abuse because in the end, I was still a child and just like Mrs. Trunchbull my dad hated smart chuldren. I'd go to the library a lot as a kid and pretend to be Matilda. Thankfully my smarts did allow me to move out a 16, get a full ride scholarship and have a fufilling career so I could raise my brothers in a better environment. My husbands says I grew uo to be Mrs. Honey.
@@SaintShion I don’t think the problem was people hating you were smart… I would say the real reason cuz I know but I don’t wanna get canceled for saying it
That’s because the author of Charlie and the chocolate factory had lived through the depression and through those times when food indeed was so short and that’s why the character comes off real realistic because of the fact that when you were suffering in that way, you do everything you can possibly do to conserve energy. I think he was riding that section for something either he himself experience or he himself witnessed.
The effects of the Great Depression weren't as severe in the UK since the country had been in a perpetual state of recession since the end of WW1. Also Roald and his sisters were attending private boarding schools at that time. I think his family was getting by fine. If I remember right his worst encounter with starvation was when his headmaster forced all the students to hand in the keys of their "tuck boxes" after no one owned up to covering the corridors in sugar.
Um, he had it much better than the common folk. He WITNESSED hardship, READ about hardship. He was what would have been Upper Class here in the States. He was fine.
@@michaelsmyth3935 they said he either experienced it or witnessed it. Clearly, he witnessed it. It's not hard for people to write about things they see. No, he didn't go through it. He was lucky but that doesn't mean he didn't see starving homeless kids and decided to go from there.
If you were privileged and were aware of it you might feel compelled to have people engaged in a story of someone less fortunate and good hearted (and not look down on poor people).
One of my favorite parts of the novel is when Wonka, during the chocolate river boat ride, takes two mugs and pulls up hot chocolate from the river for Charlie and his Grandpa. He only does that for them, simply because they are so thin and frail. If they ever do another remake they should include that scene. It helps establish that Wonka, while eccentric, is still a kind man beneath it all.
He still runs this absurdly wasteful company in the neighborhood where children are starving to death outside his gates. He is no humanitarian... oh, and the slavery thing.
I remember during the stock market crisis of 2008. I was 7 and my dad was working a minimal wage job, and my mom couldn’t hold a job. Our pantry was a cardboard box and we were living on my mom’s father’s land in a dilapidated trailer. If it wasn’t for my grandparents, we would have been homeless and starving. Thank god those days are over. Charlie’s story remains me of those days. Zero energy and I struggled to keep up with my friends in recess.
I need to point out, in 2008 you would only have starved if you didn't give to food kitchens, food pantries, or sign up for government assistance. There are so many options now to keep people from starving. I really need people to know that so if they end up in a bad situation they don't think their are no options for help.
@@1faithchick7 yes, that is true. I got food from food banks, clothes from programs from school (sometimes they threw donations) and there is always goodwill too. But my father was in a situation where he was making too much money for government assistance, but had mounting bills and medical expenses that ate must of the money that came in. Not to mention his alcoholism ate into even more money. I had severe ADHD and teachers threatened calling the CPS on my parents if they didn’t give me treatment, or at least that was what I was told. His insurance didn’t cover that. My parents said at one point child support, but was dropped by multiple reasons involving income and brief ‘good’ years my family would get. So there were some events my family would take advantage of to survive like donations from school or a local business like Safeway for example. But 7 year year old me wasn’t aware of most of that, I just understood that there were good years and bad years, and 2008-09 happened to be one of those bad years.
@@1faithchick7 that is true, and my family had help from food banks, school donations and church to help us through bad years. But bills and paying for my medication my father’s insurance didn’t cover dug into their paycheck. Dad was also in a situation that he made too much money to qualify for certain government benefits, especially during the brief times when mom was working. I mainly remember that year because there was little food and we had no cable or internet for a few years.
I think that’s why Roald Dahl’s books were so popular. It struck a chord with a lot of kids who could relate to hardship, and provided an escape that let them know that kids like them can get happy endings.
imo i feel like this is a good way to show children that life isn’t always going to be sun shine and rainbows and that reality is always going to be harsh
You should read his books! Theyre quite short-- if you're a reader they'll be quick work, and if youre not, theyre a good middle ground. Most of them are more profound than you may expect.
This felt relatable to me because I do remember having a fear of starving as a child and knew there were financial problems so reading this at age 13 it encouraged me because Charlie was having it way worse than I ever had and he still managed to keep a positive mindset. Also he survived.
Fun fact: the factory charlie’s dad works for is called smilex, the same brand in the 1989 Batman film, because director Tim Burton directed both films
Burton did not direct the film shown in this short. The footage here is from the 1971 “Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory”. As I recall, the name of the toothpaste factory is never mentioned in this film or the Dahl book.
@@johnjames4834The original novel by Roald Dahl and remake by Tim Burton were indeed called Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, but the 70s adaptation of the story was renamed Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory.
The movie with all of them in a single room apartment was heart breaking enough. Another movie me and my brother watched 100 times until the VHS didn't work. Makes me cry just thinking about it
Roald Dahl had such a dark life, makes sense it would translate into all his books, but using that pain in his writing I’m sure he helped a lot of children
I just listened to the audio book, they keep in the movie the part where Willy Wonka scoops a cup of hot chocolate out of the river while they are in the boat. But in the book the have a conversation where wonka basically is worried Charlie will die any moment
That was an awesome book and far better than the movie. The sequel, the great glass elevator was also very good. So was James and the giant peach. The books are always better than the movie
I remember reading Charlie And The Chocolate Factory when I was in second grade. I also read James And The Giant Peach and Fantastic Mr. Fox in the fifth grade. I liked all the books better than the movie versions.
There’s even a line in the book that states ‘It was clear he couldn’t go on like this for much longer without becoming dangerously ill.’ - Charlie was literally DYING of malnutrition 😓
I listened to the book so many times it was sad how it describes poor Charlie being sickly looking because him and his family were poor, they tried to sneak their own food to him which he declined I felt so sorry for them.
All of the grandparents are selfish, not just Grandpa Joe. If my grandson was starving to death, I would gladly sacrifice myself so I would no longer be a burden on the family and he could have the food I was eating. But nope, all four of them are happy to lie there, doing nothing but eating their children's food, depriving their children and grandchild of precious limited resources.
@@WobblesandBean being alive isn’t selfish. And they all probably did their share of work when they were able to. Killing/starving yourself isn’t noble.
@@wolvesandbooksbudandalley3381I mean, not to sound all senicide supporting or anything, but how old were the grandparents? I feel like after a while, if they actually cared about the kid, they would have let themselves finally go to ensure they aren't a burden on the family. If I was the grandparent, I'd let it happen. I think majority of grandparents would agree with that too.
I mean, we still learned about this in school. In fact, when charlie gets a chocolate bar, finally, he litterally wolves it down so fast that the shopkeeper says, " You almost had that one"
I think that's the stark contrast. For her, confectionary delights were so commonplace that she literally didn't care about just throwing it all away. Hundreds of thousands of chocolate bars at least. For a starving boy like Charlie with his father losing their only source of income, a mother, AND four bedridden grandparents, chocolate, let alone Willy Wonka's entire factory, was such a far off, hopeless dream that no one could have expected. The other children are berated in the book as well through the lyrics for being spoiled, ungrateful brats. It's been 20 years since I read the book the, so I don't remember it too well. (I do remember its very bizarre sequel a bit though. Space hotels and vermicious k'nits, etc.)
@TayoEXE that's a really good point. I want to find the books. I know fir a while they were being edited to not have mean phrases. But I want the old copy.
In Tim Burton's version (especially Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka in the movie, with a bit off character), that movie was a bit more faithful to the source material than the 1971 version of the movie, and yes Charlie's father was out of job because the toothpaste factory was becoming modernized, the food which they eat was based on the book as well, and Freddie Highmore as Charlie was almost skinny similar to the book counterpart
@@yolandasamuels3213I love the 1971 version and so does my 43 yr old son lol. Verrucae Salt and her Father are my favourite characters. Roy Kinnear and Julie Dawn Cole are brilliant..😂😂
I remember reading that when I was little. I was so sad. I had completely forgotten about him using the money he found to get a ticket. The minute he discovered it I was like “Buy food! Get something to eat!!” I actually got mad when he bought chocolate.😂 “No! That’s gonna make you sick!” It wasn’t until he found the ticket that I was like. 😮 “Oh. Riiiight.” 🤣🤣🤣
I'll have to read the book again. The version I remember has the family given a youth potion. One person drinks too much, and they have to go to Minus Land to get them. (Honestly, whatever that story is, it doesn't make sense. You have a potion that can take the strain of aging away. That means you could live forever if you wanted to. You're giving it up, probably meaning that you're done. So you just give it away with very little warning? What could possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, Minus Land.
Each pill takes off twenty years. First thing she says? “Six for me and three for each of you.” She’s seventy-eight, and wants to have -6X20? The math ain’t mathin. They end up taking off eighty years each, so one ends up 12 months old, one three months, one negative two. Grandpa Joe stays steady at 96.5-he’s got enough vitality already, doesn’t feel the need for youth pills. Fun fact: in the first book, they were all over ninety. They became eightyish each (except Grandpa Joe) for the youth pills scene. Ninety-odd years old grandparents would mean that both Charlie’s parents and Charlie himself were born when their parents were forty, of the last few eggs available (geriatric pregnancy). With the new age scheme, Grandpa Joe was 16.25 years older than Grandma Josephine.
And it was read to us in 2nd grade. We were given tiny chocolate bars and told not to eat them the whole time she read. If we did, we wouldn't get our classroom points, and we couldn't have anything from the treasure box. That wasnt the only time we were given treats and told to not eat them or else we would get punishment but its definitely thr most vivid. It was especially hard because i grew up profoundly poor and we didnt get free lunches back then. Some days we didnt eat at all.
Peter Ostrum is the actor who played Charlie Bucket. He's a veterinarian in upstate NY not far from where I lived most of my life. He's a very humble and kind man❤
I had the entire Dahl collection as a child and read them constantly. Definitely made me a bit barker as a person than if I had been reading something else.
When I was little, I used to cry for Charlie every time I watched the film. I was so sad to see that he didn’t have the nice life he seemed to deserve. 😔
Charles Dickens wrote about real life in Britain. In the UK kids really did just starve to death and they made them work to death often during Dickens life.
No genuine surprise😐🙄 The original story was written with the weak-minded racist description of the oompaloompas* as a tribe of " black people" -(melanin divinity🗝️) being taken from their homes to work for free in the factory. Being promised access to their obsession.. chocolate-specifically the *Cocoa Bean.. 🤨... When you know you know... Upgrade Better View Better You🗝️ 💜➖🌐➖🗝️
This is one reason why I felt the Depp version is more better because it shows it more of the in detail of their life and how it is more closer to the novel than the original movie
IN REAL LIFE THE ACTOR WAS SO SMART HE WENT TO VET SCHOOL(IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GET INTO VET SCHOOL THAN MEDICAL SCHOOL, NO OVER NIGHT CALL, NO MANDATORY INSURANCE NEEDED TO ACCEPT BY THE GOVERNMENT, ETC. ONLY THE BRIGHTEST ARE ACCEPTED) AND HE BECAME A VET.!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Well one thing is for sure that can make people get behind the character even more when their life is sad so I called this very healthy storytelling. Life isn't sunshine and rainbows so it makes the characters more believable.
I usually enjoy reading a book if I happen to watch a movie based on the book. It can fill in gaps. But after hearing this, I have no desire to read the book so I don’t ruin on of my favorite childhood movies.
When I read this as a child it did not feel real to me as everything was so fantastical. Another book I read as a kid, Ramona and her Father, where Ramona's father loses his job, did hit me hard as that felt very real. The notion of not having enough money for things, while others had those things, was very relatable, and scary!
I’m sorry for your loss it is never easy to lose a family member, I have been through it many times and it never gets easier and sometimes you think “I can’t go through this again” but ultimately we do as you can’t get a more loyal and loving friend. RIP Lucy ❤ I have been lucky that all but one of my dogs has died old and that was a freak thing aneurism….he was a German shepherd Karne was his name beautiful boy, only 5 years old so we got an autopsy done to find out what happened, broke our hearts so bad. The oldest one we have ever had only died 3 years ago and he was 17, staffy. I have a 16 year old staffy now that’s slowing down and I got an XL bully boy, first to save his life as new law here on the breed and (he will be 1 in September and they would have put him down if we didn’t take him) to keep my old man company, they get on really well and my old man has taught the young pup the joys of lazing in the sun 😂
Apparently Charlie was also going to be black. The reason he isn’t is because the author’s publisher didn’t think readers would relate to a little black kid.
I remember having that book read to us as a kid. It seems the imagination in the book is more vivid than the movie. Books usually are better than the movies if you read them before seeing them
this is honestly why children having to worry about paying for lunch and breakfast at school is ridiculous. children should never have to worry about having food 😢
Well i have read the book. And i also thought that Wonka was a monster. Because instead of showing bad kids how to become better he made them disabled. I was really hoping by the end of the book he will make them normal again but nope. I felt really bad that kids with such mild misbehaves were tortured and did not think it was a good lesson at all. Till this day i hate the book.
His father loses his job screwing the tops onto toothpaste tubes. One detail from the book I still remember. I remember reading as many of Dahl's books as I could as a kid. The Witches was his darkest for me. But I loved that. I remember at the end of James and the Giant Peach feeling that James was kind of a lonely boy. It was not a great feeling but maybe I went back to it because I could relate.
This was definitely a wake up call to how we let “excuses” kill the dream before it even starts. If only we’d embrace discipline and focus we’d blast off like rockets 🚀
Dahl's vivid description of the family starving and Charlie changing his behaviour to survive clearly speaks of someone with rock-solid experience of childhood deprivation. Charlie and Grampa Joe look so emaciated that Wonka singles them out for a dipperful of the warm Chocolate River each: "You look starved to death! Hasn't there been food at your home?"
I remember in the book how it described Charlie had to walk by the gates twice a day and smell all of the deliciousness coming from inside, and he would try to “eat” the smells…as an 11 year old child, I used to think about this a lot when I would sit down to a more than plentiful meal with my huge family every night. We would say grace, and once I ended it with “and please feed all of the hungry children in the world like Charlie”…the next day I went to grab my lunch and there was an extra one with “Charlie💙” written on it…my mom didn’t realize I was talking about a character in a book, I guess she thought it was a school mate, so she made “him” a lunch as well. It was that moment I realized my mom was an angel on earth.💕
My grandfather grew up in the Great Depression in rural Oklahoma. His family was "pretty well off" all things considered (his dad always had a job and they had a small hobby farm that they could grow the food they needed). My grandfather also has had an extreme aversion to eating anything sweet. The man is 96 and maybe in his entire life has eaten 1 cookie. My great grandmother, knowing that my grandfather wouldn't eat sweets or peanut butter jelly sandwiches, etc, would intentionally send him to school with at least 2 lunches worth of food. One lunch worth was stuff my grandfather would eat. The other lunch worth was stuff my grandfather wouldn't eat. He'd make a show of it "ugh, mom made me ANOTHER penaut butter and jelly sandwich!", then give it to whichever kid in his class didn't have a lunch that day. You know, as a favor. Totally not because his mom was trying to ease the suffering of the other kids - that would have singled them out as being poor and you just didn't do that.
You should look at the original stories by the brothers Grimm, Italy. I remember that one of the "witches" in Snow White or maybe Cinderella. After the rescue, the old hag was forced to wear red hot iron shoes until she was dead.
And the other children are "gobbling up" chocolate around him all the time. He's starving around them, and going to school starving. That means his teachers are also watching him starve and not helping him. Bastards.
Love the new editing style. Music is a bit too loud but I love the addition of the tunes, definitely helps set the mood for seeing thru the guest’s perspective. Love the direction you’re going in Dave ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
Suffering is a pretty common theme in children's and young adult's stories, everyone can remember being (or is) a child when they read these kinds of books, so seeing a child endure terrible things invokes both empathy and resonance in the reader. But.. something about Charlie feels different from the rest.. Children suffer in children's stories, but its often made fantastical or absurd in some degree to separate it somewhat from reality, giving the reader empathy without trying to make them too uncomfortable. They often get ruled over by cartoonishly evil adults like Matilda's Ms. Trunchbull or Harry Potter's Dursley's. The trials and tribulations the Baudelaire children endure are so over-the-top its played off as a parody of goth literature itself. But something Charlie's plight feels... a little TOO real. Yes, there's certainly some fun contrast between Charlie's life and the whim and whimsy of Wonka's Factory, like always having to eat the blandest foods instead of candy, or the fact his father worked at a toothpaste factory, the popular opposite of sweets and sugar. But the way even simple, bland foods get smaller in proportion.. they way Charlie has to reserve energy throughout the day because he's not consuming enough calories, how thin he gets, how his family starts to starve as well.. it all feels way too real compared to the norm in these kinds of stories.
It’s not unexpected Roald was known for his dark themes in his books.
Yeah, witches comes to mind and so does a giant peach
@a2jc234
What about Matilda?
@@Jane-kx8go
Mad headmistress being so over the top with her mistreatment of the children that no parent will believe them?
A wretched pair of parents who cannot fathom their daughter being anything even important to the world?
I'd say that's darkness for a child, the kind that many know, so it's definitely an expected darkness.
@@Jane-kx8go apparently it was meant to be a lot more dark, I don’t remember why it was changed though, and also you should probably take this comment with a grain of salt since I don’t remember most of the details lmao
Which made happy moments such a relief.
Another thing about this that’s sad is that Charlie has walked by the Chocolate factory gate twice a day to school and back home. Each time he does this he can’t help but smell the delicious chocolate from the factory and tries/attempts to eat the smell itself which adds more torture to poor Charlie.
"Eat the smell" fuck dude you describe his actions so well I literally recalled a memory of me doing the same as a child. Except this was outta desperation 💔
Holy shit😢
I lived near a chocolate factory and they actually smell pretty awful, like burning chocolate and factory emissions mixed together lol
When I was a kid I grew up near the Hershey factory, I know exactly that feeling of trying to eat/taste the air
@@HarmlessCommentSame. We lived about 30 mins away but went to Chocolate World often. As soon as we saw the Hershey Kiss streetlights, we knew to roll the windows down. Lol
Dahl often has suffering children as a theme for his books. Take James Trotter of James and the Giant Peach, for instance, or even Matilda!
What about Pinocchio?
@@jaykay8426 I don't think Pinocchio counts as he was written by Carlo Collodi, who had portrayed the wooden puppet to be a huge jerk. Though I can see what you mean. Pinocchio needing to learn how to be good by resisting temptations to be turned into a real boy is great motivation but, Collodi wanted him to die originally, before getting backlash to change it. So it's hard to say otherwise.
As someone who grew up in hostile environment, I resonated so hard with Matilda. Being overtly smart didnt save me from abuse because in the end, I was still a child and just like Mrs. Trunchbull my dad hated smart chuldren.
I'd go to the library a lot as a kid and pretend to be Matilda. Thankfully my smarts did allow me to move out a 16, get a full ride scholarship and have a fufilling career so I could raise my brothers in a better environment. My husbands says I grew uo to be Mrs. Honey.
@@SaintShion I don’t think the problem was people hating you were smart… I would say the real reason cuz I know but I don’t wanna get canceled for saying it
OMG MY CHILDHOOD STORIES😢😢😢
That’s because the author of Charlie and the chocolate factory had lived through the depression and through those times when food indeed was so short and that’s why the character comes off real realistic because of the fact that when you were suffering in that way, you do everything you can possibly do to conserve energy. I think he was riding that section for something either he himself experience or he himself witnessed.
The effects of the Great Depression weren't as severe in the UK since the country had been in a perpetual state of recession since the end of WW1.
Also Roald and his sisters were attending private boarding schools at that time. I think his family was getting by fine. If I remember right his worst encounter with starvation was when his headmaster forced all the students to hand in the keys of their "tuck boxes" after no one owned up to covering the corridors in sugar.
Who knows it may have been both and I find that really sad
Um, he had it much better than the common folk. He WITNESSED hardship, READ about hardship.
He was what would have been Upper Class here in the States. He was fine.
@@michaelsmyth3935 they said he either experienced it or witnessed it. Clearly, he witnessed it. It's not hard for people to write about things they see. No, he didn't go through it. He was lucky but that doesn't mean he didn't see starving homeless kids and decided to go from there.
If you were privileged and were aware of it you might feel compelled to have people engaged in a story of someone less fortunate and good hearted (and not look down on poor people).
One of my favorite parts of the novel is when Wonka, during the chocolate river boat ride, takes two mugs and pulls up hot chocolate from the river for Charlie and his Grandpa. He only does that for them, simply because they are so thin and frail. If they ever do another remake they should include that scene. It helps establish that Wonka, while eccentric, is still a kind man beneath it all.
He does do it for charlie in the tim Burton version. Just it's not a full on mug, and he does comment on Charlie looking like he needs it
He still runs this absurdly wasteful company in the neighborhood where children are starving to death outside his gates. He is no humanitarian... oh, and the slavery thing.
I remember during the stock market crisis of 2008. I was 7 and my dad was working a minimal wage job, and my mom couldn’t hold a job. Our pantry was a cardboard box and we were living on my mom’s father’s land in a dilapidated trailer. If it wasn’t for my grandparents, we would have been homeless and starving. Thank god those days are over. Charlie’s story remains me of those days. Zero energy and I struggled to keep up with my friends in recess.
I'm really glad you're still here with us.
God bless you. I'm so sorry you had to live in such harsh circumstances. I'm glad you are still here today, though.
I need to point out, in 2008 you would only have starved if you didn't give to food kitchens, food pantries, or sign up for government assistance. There are so many options now to keep people from starving. I really need people to know that so if they end up in a bad situation they don't think their are no options for help.
@@1faithchick7 yes, that is true. I got food from food banks, clothes from programs from school (sometimes they threw donations) and there is always goodwill too. But my father was in a situation where he was making too much money for government assistance, but had mounting bills and medical expenses that ate must of the money that came in. Not to mention his alcoholism ate into even more money. I had severe ADHD and teachers threatened calling the CPS on my parents if they didn’t give me treatment, or at least that was what I was told. His insurance didn’t cover that. My parents said at one point child support, but was dropped by multiple reasons involving income and brief ‘good’ years my family would get. So there were some events my family would take advantage of to survive like donations from school or a local business like Safeway for example. But 7 year year old me wasn’t aware of most of that, I just understood that there were good years and bad years, and 2008-09 happened to be one of those bad years.
@@1faithchick7 that is true, and my family had help from food banks, school donations and church to help us through bad years. But bills and paying for my medication my father’s insurance didn’t cover dug into their paycheck. Dad was also in a situation that he made too much money to qualify for certain government benefits, especially during the brief times when mom was working. I mainly remember that year because there was little food and we had no cable or internet for a few years.
I think that’s why Roald Dahl’s books were so popular. It struck a chord with a lot of kids who could relate to hardship, and provided an escape that let them know that kids like them can get happy endings.
Unexpectedly dark for a novel aimed towards children, but it does show a harsh reality some people live through.
His daughter died a brutal death. Sadly, I think think a lot of his inspo came from that experience
@briarrose29 Yeah, sadly, it seems he suffered through a lot of family tragedy
@@briarrose29plus, he’s seen things before in the war
imo i feel like this is a good way to show children that life isn’t always going to be sun shine and rainbows and that reality is always going to be harsh
You should read his books! Theyre quite short-- if you're a reader they'll be quick work, and if youre not, theyre a good middle ground. Most of them are more profound than you may expect.
This felt relatable to me because I do remember having a fear of starving as a child and knew there were financial problems so reading this at age 13 it encouraged me because Charlie was having it way worse than I ever had and he still managed to keep a positive mindset. Also he survived.
I remember those original sketches and thinking, he’s dying
so many bucket list jokes
Fun fact: the factory charlie’s dad works for is called smilex, the same brand in the 1989 Batman film, because director Tim Burton directed both films
Burton did not direct the film shown in this short. The footage here is from the 1971 “Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory”. As I recall, the name of the toothpaste factory is never mentioned in this film or the Dahl book.
@@ButMadNNW626 i thought it was charlie and the chocolate factory
@@johnjames4834 That is the name of the book but the film used Willy Wonka in the title instead
@@johnjames4834The original novel by Roald Dahl and remake by Tim Burton were indeed called Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, but the 70s adaptation of the story was renamed Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory.
The books never mentioned this. There were two Charlie books.
I think the fairy tale of the little match girl can keep up quite well.
You had to bring the little march girl into this 😢
@@Emiliapocalypse sorry but yes, i can't see this movie without crying in the end.
I remember reading The Little Match Girl one cold Winter, when I was probably 7 or 8 years old. Oh! How my heart broke!
The little match girl was THE saddest story I've ever read. It broke my heart when I was a little girl. 😭
He turns so skinny and white...that he begins to look like a Tim Burton character!💀
I remembered reading the book as a child and it was sad and disturbing how that chapter deeply explained charlie and his family starving
Because it was a personal experience for dahl
@@rebeccaconlon9743 was dahl's life once like Charlie's
@@yazzers7940great depression
And his own grandparents refused to work
@rebeccaconlon9743 Not really. It wasn't his own experience since his family was financially stable. But he must've witnessed it.
The movie with all of them in a single room apartment was heart breaking enough. Another movie me and my brother watched 100 times until the VHS didn't work. Makes me cry just thinking about it
Roald Dahl had such a dark life, makes sense it would translate into all his books, but using that pain in his writing I’m sure he helped a lot of children
Have you read his adult shirt stories?
Try Lamb to the Slaughter... It was made into an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents.
I just listened to the audio book, they keep in the movie the part where Willy Wonka scoops a cup of hot chocolate out of the river while they are in the boat.
But in the book the have a conversation where wonka basically is worried Charlie will die any moment
They kept that dialogue in the Tim Burton version.
Wow
That was an awesome book and far better than the movie. The sequel, the great glass elevator was also very good. So was James and the giant peach. The books are always better than the movie
Second book is much crazier, I remember reading it and getting whiplash when suddenly there was a space hotel. It just gets weirder and weirder.
At least the Burton version is more faithful to the book.
I remember reading Charlie And The Chocolate Factory when I was in second grade. I also read James And The Giant Peach and Fantastic Mr. Fox in the fifth grade. I liked all the books better than the movie versions.
I never cared for the movie versions. The film version for The Witches looked really faithful to the book.
There’s even a line in the book that states ‘It was clear he couldn’t go on like this for much longer without becoming dangerously ill.’ - Charlie was literally DYING of malnutrition 😓
I listened to the book so many times it was sad how it describes poor Charlie being sickly looking because him and his family were poor, they tried to sneak their own food to him which he declined I felt so sorry for them.
And Grandpa Joe did nothing to help.
Ya frrr. But suddenly the first mention of chocolate and he can dance away. Smh Joe. We’re on to you!
R/grandpajoehate
All of the grandparents are selfish, not just Grandpa Joe. If my grandson was starving to death, I would gladly sacrifice myself so I would no longer be a burden on the family and he could have the food I was eating.
But nope, all four of them are happy to lie there, doing nothing but eating their children's food, depriving their children and grandchild of precious limited resources.
@@WobblesandBean being alive isn’t selfish. And they all probably did their share of work when they were able to. Killing/starving yourself isn’t noble.
@@wolvesandbooksbudandalley3381I mean, not to sound all senicide supporting or anything, but how old were the grandparents? I feel like after a while, if they actually cared about the kid, they would have let themselves finally go to ensure they aren't a burden on the family.
If I was the grandparent, I'd let it happen. I think majority of grandparents would agree with that too.
Poor kid didn’t have protein when he needed it the most
I mean, we still learned about this in school. In fact, when charlie gets a chocolate bar, finally, he litterally wolves it down so fast that the shopkeeper says, " You almost had that one"
He also told Charlie to slow down because he would get a gut ache if he swallowed without chewing.
I read that book as a kid! It’s really good! I definitely recommend it. Roald Dahl is an amazing author!
That's so horrible 😞 and Varuckas family was wasting all that candy. Just sad.
I think that's the stark contrast. For her, confectionary delights were so commonplace that she literally didn't care about just throwing it all away. Hundreds of thousands of chocolate bars at least. For a starving boy like Charlie with his father losing their only source of income, a mother, AND four bedridden grandparents, chocolate, let alone Willy Wonka's entire factory, was such a far off, hopeless dream that no one could have expected. The other children are berated in the book as well through the lyrics for being spoiled, ungrateful brats. It's been 20 years since I read the book the, so I don't remember it too well. (I do remember its very bizarre sequel a bit though. Space hotels and vermicious k'nits, etc.)
Did the book confirm that they were throwing it away? Ugh, at least put them in clean containers and donate them to orphanages and shelters 😫
@LMvonLebkuchen People like Verucka's family, unfortunately, don't care about poor starving people.
@LMvonLebkuchen Or at least make home-made chocolate covered nuts with some of them since if I can recall, her father owns a nut factory
@TayoEXE that's a really good point. I want to find the books. I know fir a while they were being edited to not have mean phrases. But I want the old copy.
Dayum. That's dark. Well there's another title for my Amazon wishlist.
In Tim Burton's version (especially Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka in the movie, with a bit off character), that movie was a bit more faithful to the source material than the 1971 version of the movie, and yes Charlie's father was out of job because the toothpaste factory was becoming modernized, the food which they eat was based on the book as well, and Freddie Highmore as Charlie was almost skinny similar to the book counterpart
Yes, Roald Dahl's widow once said that he hated the 1971 version, as he felt that they didn't get it.
@@yolandasamuels3213I love the 1971 version and so does my 43 yr old son lol. Verrucae Salt and her Father are my favourite characters. Roy Kinnear and Julie Dawn Cole are brilliant..😂😂
I remember reading that when I was little. I was so sad. I had completely forgotten about him using the money he found to get a ticket. The minute he discovered it I was like “Buy food! Get something to eat!!” I actually got mad when he bought chocolate.😂 “No! That’s gonna make you sick!” It wasn’t until he found the ticket that I was like. 😮 “Oh. Riiiight.” 🤣🤣🤣
Been there as a child cornmral mush breakfast lunch and dinner
Poor Charlie….😢
I'll have to read the book again. The version I remember has the family given a youth potion. One person drinks too much, and they have to go to Minus Land to get them. (Honestly, whatever that story is, it doesn't make sense. You have a potion that can take the strain of aging away. That means you could live forever if you wanted to. You're giving it up, probably meaning that you're done. So you just give it away with very little warning? What could possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, Minus Land.
That’s the sequel- The Great Glass Elevator
Each pill takes off twenty years. First thing she says? “Six for me and three for each of you.” She’s seventy-eight, and wants to have -6X20? The math ain’t mathin. They end up taking off eighty years each, so one ends up 12 months old, one three months, one negative two. Grandpa Joe stays steady at 96.5-he’s got enough vitality already, doesn’t feel the need for youth pills.
Fun fact: in the first book, they were all over ninety. They became eightyish each (except Grandpa Joe) for the youth pills scene.
Ninety-odd years old grandparents would mean that both Charlie’s parents and Charlie himself were born when their parents were forty, of the last few eggs available (geriatric pregnancy).
With the new age scheme, Grandpa Joe was 16.25 years older than Grandma Josephine.
I loved Dahl’s books as a kid
I seem to have forgotten how dark they can get, especially the BFG. Those giants were scary
I remember crying when I read the book as a child. I've always been sensitive to the suffering of others. 💙
It’s a burden and a blessing am I right
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@@dillonwalshpvd Indeed.
THE saddest? How about that poor kid in “Life is Beautiful”?
ur a good narrator. i wouldnt mind u making this book as a series or a vid
Dude!! I used to watch your videos years ago! Im so glad you’re still putting out content and doing well
And it was read to us in 2nd grade. We were given tiny chocolate bars and told not to eat them the whole time she read. If we did, we wouldn't get our classroom points, and we couldn't have anything from the treasure box. That wasnt the only time we were given treats and told to not eat them or else we would get punishment but its definitely thr most vivid. It was especially hard because i grew up profoundly poor and we didnt get free lunches back then. Some days we didnt eat at all.
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I remember these pics from the book when I was a kid. I run I read it thru just once but I had my own copy of it somehow
Peter Ostrum is the actor who played Charlie Bucket. He's a veterinarian in upstate NY not far from where I lived most of my life. He's a very humble and kind man❤
I had the entire Dahl collection as a child and read them constantly. Definitely made me a bit barker as a person than if I had been reading something else.
I love Roald Dahl's Revolving Thymes book, it's a great twist on fairy tales! Read it often to my children.
When I was little, I used to cry for Charlie every time I watched the film. I was so sad to see that he didn’t have the nice life he seemed to deserve. 😔
Bruh that’s so sad 😢
I have the original book. I love it so much ❤🕊
"Winter arrives out of nowhere"
They lived in England. They definitely saw it coming.
I hate sad stories! Real life can be too bad already!
But this story has a happy ending. ☺️
I wonder if Dahl was inspired by Charles Dickens?
Charles Dickens wrote about real life in Britain. In the UK kids really did just starve to death and they made them work to death often during Dickens life.
We love giving our character so much trauma that it’s hurts! :D
Fun fact, the actor who played Charlie is a veterinarian about 20 miles from my town. My aunt works for the practice ❤
The art is astonishingly beautiful though.
Dahl’s biography Boy is a really good read, you can see where he got a lot of his inspirations from.
Well at least the ending is happy that Charlie owns the factory
And later that night: they both turned into Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 🐢
This is actually heartbreaking. Now everytime I watch the movie I'm gonna think about this 💔
In Charlie and the Chocolate Factor movie with Johnny Depp, Wonka tells Charlie to try some of the chocolate because he "looks starved to death"
This was one of the things that made the book so much better, and Charlie's suffering was one of the reasons why Wonka picked him
I never read the book, but I still cry after watching the movie 100's of times. This is one of my all-time favorite movies. I loved Charlie.
No genuine surprise😐🙄 The original story was written with the weak-minded racist description of the oompaloompas* as a tribe of
" black people" -(melanin divinity🗝️) being taken from their homes to work for free in the factory. Being promised access to their obsession.. chocolate-specifically the
*Cocoa Bean.. 🤨... When you know you know... Upgrade Better View Better You🗝️
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"I know my numbers" my highly dyscalculia ahh self not being able to do any math, but I can count, dammit
awesome, no one knows dyscalculia! Only dyslexia
Bread and margarine, boiled potatoes and cabbage soup! Summer body… here I come!!!
You might say he was at risk of kicking the bucket.
This is one reason why I felt the Depp version is more better because it shows it more of the in detail of their life and how it is more closer to the novel than the original movie
IN REAL LIFE THE ACTOR WAS SO SMART HE WENT TO VET SCHOOL(IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GET INTO VET SCHOOL THAN MEDICAL SCHOOL, NO OVER NIGHT CALL, NO MANDATORY INSURANCE NEEDED TO ACCEPT BY THE GOVERNMENT, ETC. ONLY THE BRIGHTEST ARE ACCEPTED) AND HE BECAME A VET.!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ronald Dahl movie adaptations: 🙂
Ronald Dahl books: 😧
The 2005 adaption portrayed the creepy vibe of the book the most
Well one thing is for sure that can make people get behind the character even more when their life is sad so I called this very healthy storytelling. Life isn't sunshine and rainbows so it makes the characters more believable.
Damn I didn't know in the book Charlie was living life on very hard mode.
I usually enjoy reading a book if I happen to watch a movie based on the book. It can fill in gaps. But after hearing this, I have no desire to read the book so I don’t ruin on of my favorite childhood movies.
I read this book when I was 7 and thought nothing of it. That's conserning
That is such a fucking depressing statement holy shit… “I couldn’t play at recess as to not burn the excessive calories I knew I didn’t have…”
Thank you for that information. Very interesting 🙌🏻💚🇮🇪
I dunno.. cabbage and potatoes and buttered bread sounds great to me
When I read this as a child it did not feel real to me as everything was so fantastical. Another book I read as a kid, Ramona and her Father, where Ramona's father loses his job, did hit me hard as that felt very real. The notion of not having enough money for things, while others had those things, was very relatable, and scary!
You can read the whole thing as him starving to death and the chocolate factory being a dream too
I’m sorry for your loss it is never easy to lose a family member, I have been through it many times and it never gets easier and sometimes you think “I can’t go through this again” but ultimately we do as you can’t get a more loyal and loving friend.
RIP Lucy ❤
I have been lucky that all but one of my dogs has died old and that was a freak thing aneurism….he was a German shepherd Karne was his name beautiful boy, only 5 years old so we got an autopsy done to find out what happened, broke our hearts so bad. The oldest one we have ever had only died 3 years ago and he was 17, staffy. I have a 16 year old staffy now that’s slowing down and I got an XL bully boy, first to save his life as new law here on the breed and (he will be 1 in September and they would have put him down if we didn’t take him) to keep my old man company, they get on really well and my old man has taught the young pup the joys of lazing in the sun 😂
Apparently Charlie was also going to be black. The reason he isn’t is because the author’s publisher didn’t think readers would relate to a little black kid.
I remember having that book read to us as a kid. It seems the imagination in the book is more vivid than the movie. Books usually are better than the movies if you read them before seeing them
this is honestly why children having to worry about paying for lunch and breakfast at school is ridiculous. children should never have to worry about having food 😢
Well i have read the book. And i also thought that Wonka was a monster. Because instead of showing bad kids how to become better he made them disabled. I was really hoping by the end of the book he will make them normal again but nope. I felt really bad that kids with such mild misbehaves were tortured and did not think it was a good lesson at all. Till this day i hate the book.
His father loses his job screwing the tops onto toothpaste tubes. One detail from the book I still remember. I remember reading as many of Dahl's books as I could as a kid. The Witches was his darkest for me. But I loved that. I remember at the end of James and the Giant Peach feeling that James was kind of a lonely boy. It was not a great feeling but maybe I went back to it because I could relate.
This was definitely a wake up call to how we let “excuses” kill the dream before it even starts. If only we’d embrace discipline and focus we’d blast off like rockets 🚀
*Jesus*
I read it as a child but I don't remember that part. Maybe it was so traumatizing I blocked the memory out.
Goose and James Bond ❤ Incredible Film, the original Bucket List but better ❤
Dahl's vivid description of the family starving and Charlie changing his behaviour to survive clearly speaks of someone with rock-solid experience of childhood deprivation. Charlie and Grampa Joe look so emaciated that Wonka singles them out for a dipperful of the warm Chocolate River each: "You look starved to death! Hasn't there been food at your home?"
He walks past the chocolate factory to school and once again to go home. Its complete torture. He tries to eat the air..😢
Goodness starving is one of the worst ways to go…. So sad
Roald Dahl is an incredible author❤️📚
I remember in the book how it described Charlie had to walk by the gates twice a day and smell all of the deliciousness coming from inside, and he would try to “eat” the smells…as an 11 year old child, I used to think about this a lot when I would sit down to a more than plentiful meal with my huge family every night. We would say grace, and once I ended it with “and please feed all of the hungry children in the world like Charlie”…the next day I went to grab my lunch and there was an extra one with “Charlie💙” written on it…my mom didn’t realize I was talking about a character in a book, I guess she thought it was a school mate, so she made “him” a lunch as well.
It was that moment I realized my mom was an angel on earth.💕
Definitely not the saddest child in movie history.
Absolutely right. Very very sad
My grandfather grew up in the Great Depression in rural Oklahoma. His family was "pretty well off" all things considered (his dad always had a job and they had a small hobby farm that they could grow the food they needed). My grandfather also has had an extreme aversion to eating anything sweet. The man is 96 and maybe in his entire life has eaten 1 cookie.
My great grandmother, knowing that my grandfather wouldn't eat sweets or peanut butter jelly sandwiches, etc, would intentionally send him to school with at least 2 lunches worth of food. One lunch worth was stuff my grandfather would eat. The other lunch worth was stuff my grandfather wouldn't eat. He'd make a show of it "ugh, mom made me ANOTHER penaut butter and jelly sandwich!", then give it to whichever kid in his class didn't have a lunch that day. You know, as a favor. Totally not because his mom was trying to ease the suffering of the other kids - that would have singled them out as being poor and you just didn't do that.
You should look at the original stories by the brothers Grimm, Italy. I remember that one of the "witches" in Snow White or maybe Cinderella. After the rescue, the old hag was forced to wear red hot iron shoes until she was dead.
This makes Grandpa Bucket even more despicable.
"Did you know? In the books..."
Yo I read the book more than five times as a kid and somehow forgot abt all that until now. Jeeesus
And the other children are "gobbling up" chocolate around him all the time. He's starving around them, and going to school starving. That means his teachers are also watching him starve and not helping him. Bastards.
Well that was depressing af.
I read the series as a kid💕
Love the new editing style. Music is a bit too loud but I love the addition of the tunes, definitely helps set the mood for seeing thru the guest’s perspective. Love the direction you’re going in Dave ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
I don’t understand how my comment for a completely different video ended up over here? Tf is happening?
Suffering is a pretty common theme in children's and young adult's stories, everyone can remember being (or is) a child when they read these kinds of books, so seeing a child endure terrible things invokes both empathy and resonance in the reader. But.. something about Charlie feels different from the rest..
Children suffer in children's stories, but its often made fantastical or absurd in some degree to separate it somewhat from reality, giving the reader empathy without trying to make them too uncomfortable.
They often get ruled over by cartoonishly evil adults like Matilda's Ms. Trunchbull or Harry Potter's Dursley's. The trials and tribulations the Baudelaire children endure are so over-the-top its played off as a parody of goth literature itself.
But something Charlie's plight feels... a little TOO real. Yes, there's certainly some fun contrast between Charlie's life and the whim and whimsy of Wonka's Factory, like always having to eat the blandest foods instead of candy, or the fact his father worked at a toothpaste factory, the popular opposite of sweets and sugar.
But the way even simple, bland foods get smaller in proportion.. they way Charlie has to reserve energy throughout the day because he's not consuming enough calories, how thin he gets, how his family starts to starve as well.. it all feels way too real compared to the norm in these kinds of stories.