What Ever Happened to Artemis Fowl?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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The world of Artemis Fowl is a captivating blend of magic, technology, and criminal masterminds. From his humble beginnings as a 12-year-old prodigy to his daring , Artemis Fowl's journey has enthralled readers worldwide. Join us as we delve into the enchanting history of this iconic series, exploring its soaring heights, and very low, lows.
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One of the things that makes Artemis such an awesome character is just how driven he is. In a world of ten thousand 'chosen ones' he happens to the plot, not the other way around. The fact that he is a proactive, not a reactionary, protagonist is one of the many, many things that makes AF one of the best YA book series to this day.
That's a great point - he's not the chosen one or special in the first books (aside from being rich) and he is the reason the plot moves forward for much of the early books.
The first scene of the series being Artemis practically torturing some old alcoholic fairy for information certainly left an impression
True. When I was a kid, there was three main book series I read: Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter and Percy Jackson. It got me into fanfiction and into writing. Later, I quickly noticed that the first Artemis Fowl was indeed far more worthy of the title of a protagonist than Percy or Harry, especially Harry who is a textbook passive character and constantly need other character to act first for the plot to go forward.
It's especially true in the first books of these series. In the first Harry Potter, Harry has to be rescued by Hagrid, then he would have probably sat at school and do nothing if Voldy hadn't showed up. Harry pretty much only react to the bad guys actions.
Artemis Fowl, meanwhile, is the complete opposite. He set up his goal, gather intel to reach his goal and reach it, sparking the whoe chain of event. It's even funnier to think he is technically the bad guy in his first story.
I think this is due to the fact Artemis is a criminal mastermind so he does crime, so he need to be proactive in what he does and he will necessarly run into problem because of this. He also doesn't let the fact he is a child limiting him.
The first AF book is frankly a lesson in storytelling. Everything is there. Pro-active protagonist, smart character being actually smart instead of everyone around being dumbed down, a perfect application of the Chekov gun principle that is used to build the world of Artemis Fowl (check it, pretty much every minor detail brought up early on has a payoff later), a colorfull cast of character that each have their goals and personnalities and a pacing that allow most of the story to hold into a 24h framework and could have easily been adapted into film to the letter).
The movie was trully criminal.
@@johnwotek3816 Because I heard what a dumpster fire the movie was I never even watched it and knowing now I can't watch it I'm not sad about that. The AF books stuck with me because he was the villain in the first one. You don't see a lot of child villains let alone ones that are the main protagonist! I was really hoping for a good adaptation so the people in my life that don't read the books could understand the joy I felt reading about his escapades but we didn't get that so I didn't even talk about the movie to people. I feel adapting stories is a good thing because not everyone reads the books but tossing the source material out the window and keeping the names only is not adapting the story... I hope that we get another shot at a movie down the line from a company that doesn't dislikes villains! (Disney likes trauma to be the bad guy instead of having an actual villain now a days to the point I don't think they know how to write a villain anymore...)
Agreed, he almost comes off as a side villain made protagonist, and he's actively going after things for his plans with a tenacity that's just enjoyable to read.
It’s like they deliberately tried to make fans angry with the „adaptation“.
The dead father - lives.
The first ever female fairy agent - has a female boss now.
The villain protagonist - just a kid, trying to save his father.
He hates sport and sun and is pale as death - loves surfing now.
The mother - irrelevant.
I saw the trailer and immediately thought: Percy Jackson and Eragon combined their respective weaknesses so the bullshit gets up to eleven. It is just sad.
Judi Dench as Root was the prime example of the tired "oh chill out, you silly redneck, like what does it even matter?" line being as off point as it gets to anybody who read the book.
Oh, don't worry - I'll get to Percy Jackson haha
Um... the "dead" father _is_ alive.
At least very clearly presumed dead for a few volumes @@SuperZez
I’m glad I missed the adaptation, what GARBAGE. Ugh.
I felt in love with this when i found it in my school's library. What this series needed was a proper animated release, either a movie or a series
I totally agree, after checking out the graphic novels i think it translates really well to that format - have you checked out the graphic novels? You might like them!
@@exitsexamined I actually just found out about them from your video. I'll check them out😂
YES! 1000%!
With animation they could absolutely go jam with the fairy world, fights, and magic. Butler vs the troll would be amazing animated!
Artemis Fowl, The Last Apprentice (Spooks if you’re in the UK), and Skulduggery Pleasant were so peak to read. They defined my early teen years.
Grimalkin my beloved.
the spooks apprentice, man thats a series that i haven't thought about in years, amazing dark fantasy
Spook's is peak. Made my childhood so much more bearable.
Ooooooh skulduggery what a read
I love those books and batrimeus trilogy was pretty good too
Good news, there's more skulduggery pleasant books. At least 3 more on the way.
Whoa, never even bothered with the movie and it sounds like that was the right decision. Cool to know that about the Twin's series, I'll have to check it out - awesome job as usual!!
The series is interesting and surprisingly adult, considering the age of the protagonists.
With the twin series? Do you think it's more adult compared to the original or just different?
I wouldn't have been able to finish the movie if I wasn't watching it with my friends drinking and laughing at it. The only shame in it being removed is that you'll never convince anyone who didn't see it that disney was willing to put out something so bad.
As a long lasting fan of the serie, here is my take on it. Beware, this zone is full of spoiler.
Artemis Fowl: the first book, probably the best in the serie. It is Die Hard meet Ocean 11 with fairies. Great pacing, great writing, litteraly the textbook exemple on how to properly use Chekov's gun. If you only have to read one, go for this one.
Artemis Fowl the Artic Incident: it's the one that made Artemis a hero in a more classical sense. It's not as thightly written as the first book, but it introduce the best vilain of the serie. It's the more "normal" of the books.
Artemis Fowl the Eternity code: this is probably the most important book in the serie, since Artemis get to actually be confronted by the consequences of his decisions and actions. It is what trully turn him from the bratty little shit that he is into a more mature and well rounded hero and cement his friendship with the fairy. It is cruelly taken away by the end, ressetting the former status quo. If Colfer main intent was to make a trilogy, I think that woud have been a rather poor idea considering what the character went through.
Artemis Fowl the Opal deception: is my favorite of the entire serie. It is simply the ballsiest of the serie. It kills off important character, leaves us on a bitter sweet ending that would have been perfect as the serie's ending, conclude Artemis character arc and use Opal Koboi in the best way possible.
Artemis Fowl the Lost colony: I think this is where the serie start to crack for me. That book is good in itself, but it suffer from what came before. It introduce stuff that make the lore a bit more complicated (like, seriously, Wing commander Vinyaya is, by that point, becoming a plot device that make the LEP structure very confusing) and I think it trully poorly handle the character of Holly, who slowly stop to be her own character and become more Artemis personnal muscle. While the demons and Minerva are trully wonderfull addition to the universe, the Lost colony is guilty of handwaving way too much obstacle on the path of the character. Holly isn't a LEP officer since last book? Vinyaya will reinstate her because Foaly like her. Ark Sool is still the LEP commander? Who cares? Trouble will replace him off screen.
Artemis Fowl the Time Paradox: time travel is always a very delicate thing and, frankly, Artemis Fowl completely jumped the shark with that tome. The good stuff from the lost colony will not be used or will be cancelled very early on, some important status quo element (like the rules to enter a human building) are been overulled between the books. Opale is shoehorned in the plot and is pretty much a parody of herself. The book could also make you think the ship between Artemis and Holly is now an actual thing which doesn't help. I think this is easily the weakest tome in the entire serie.
Artemis Fowl and the Atlantis Complex: That book feels like a filler episode. Last book ended with an Opal from the past showing up to cause trouble in our time, capturing her should be the main priority, yet, we are being hickjacked by Artemis having a mental breakdown and by a new antagonist that the book treat as if everyone had read the bonus material "the Artemis Fowl files". I guess Opal can only be the antagonist of even tomes. It is overall enjoyable, but Colfer is trully repeating himself. Artemis struggle again with his morality and his capacity to open to his friends, a mentor figure dies again, etc...
Artemis Fowl the last Guardian: this is the last book in the main franchise and, let's just say there is a big "toy box effect". Everything litteraly explode (and, no, this isn't a hyperbole, the world is figuratively sent back to the stone age in a single shot), everyone is brought to fight it, Artemis even get a cool "Fowl mobile" and he get to cheat death itself while battling ancient goddess fairy warrior. It is enjoyable, but this felt more like the story a little would make with his toy, sending them everywhere in the room and feeling a sense of annoyance when come the time to put everything back in the box.
I think the big problem with the series is that Colfer didn't knew what to do with characters, especially Artemis and Holly after the Opal deception. They had resolved their arc in a rather satisfying and logical way. Artemis was now a real goodguy who started to use his genius for making a better world, Holly had left the LEP to do her own thing, because she couldn't deal with the hypocrisy of the instution, which became worse after the death of her mentor figure.
Artemis the good guy is mostly done in rather supperficial ways and we loose the super genius he was at book 6, from which he is pretty much a far cry of the mastermind we used to know. Holly, meanwhile, is reinstated and her beef with the LEP is pretty much handwaved in book 5 as if nothing ever happened.
Then, if you look at secundary character, the whole thing becomes more and more difficult. Mulch, who is often used as the ace in the sleeves of Artemis or Holly is more and more shoehorned in the story and more and more utilitarian.
The Kelp brother pretty much disapear. Grub and Trouble have always been nice foil to Holly and Root. Trouble was the very model of a LEP officer, efficient, courageous and by the book with a dash of bravado, while his little brother, Grub, was the incompetent, cowardly and contentious cop. Both were however loyal and well meaning, rising to the occasion, either by accident or by their strenght of character. They offered a nice view of what the rank and file of the LEP was like. By book 5, Trouble is basically turning into Root 2.0 and Grub is simply gone.
Honestly, after the opal deception, the only character whom trully benefit from further developpment are the Butler and the rest of the Fowl familly. Butler is confronted to his declining health, Juliet become the ace in Artemis sleeves during odds book (except in the 8) and Fowl Sr, Angeline and the Twin get show a rather wholesome story of redemption and turning good.
Foaly also benefit quite from the last 4 books of the serie, getting to be something more than the tech support guy. He gets a girlfriend, grows more involved into the LEP affairs and even get his own set piece at the end of the book, where he is alone and must solve his problem alone without anyone's help.
The first book really is the best. I stop reading the series after the time paradox.
I loved all the books completely the only thing I don’t like is Minerva she’s just a worse version of Artemis and they expect her to be his love interest later on I think he can do way WAY better than her she’s annoying and quite frankly a shit and it sounds bad but at least Artemis just made a threat for money whereas she was gonna screw an entire species just for a noble prize which I’d love to say this to Minerva in person “how about try working on being noble instead of going for a prize that no one except for you cares about"🫠💘
Did any of you guys read the books about his twin brothers? I tried reading it but, maybe because I'm an adult now, seeing little kids being able to do so many genius things (they're younger than Arty when he started) and overpower adults kinda puts me off for some reason. I didn't finish the book yet, I stopped halfway because I've yet to see them struggle (mentally or physically) the way Arty did.
Arty is smart, but weak so he had to rely on Butler. The twins had each other. Butler has devoted his life to train as a great martial artist; yet, one of the twin was just... good at it. It's bordering Gary Sue. Maybe it's just me. I really wanted the Twin Fowl to continue the legacy Artemis Fowl was/is, but maybe I'm no longer the target audience.
For me, it is off putting because it destroys any sense of tension and screws with suspension of disbelief. I can suspend disbelief and accept that a child prodigy exists.
My books as a kid: Artemus Fowl, 39 clues, a series of unfortunate events, Percy Jackson, Pendragon series, etc.
Artemis Fowl was my life. The first book I bought with my own money from the Scholastic Book Fair was Opal Deception.
I believe I did play the video game before, but I have a flawed memory, what I remember is some kind of fairy word search type thing using Gnommish, though that could be completely wrong. I do know I was trying to find an Artemis Fowl game while I was waiting at the library computers.
Wow Scholastic book fair! I was thinking about covering that as well haha. Glad to know I wasn't the only one stumped by the game - did you get through the entire series?
@@exitsexamined I got through the main series and most of the spinoffs except the Fowl Twins though I've read Eion Colfer's non-Artemis Fowl works then more.
Read the first three or four books many many times as a child. Now that I think about it, they were like Light Novel’s in that they were basically like anime in book form.
If only we got an anime instead of a movie haha
I loved the first book, but the more sympathetic Artemis became, the worse the books came out. It was no longer him pushing the story forward with his plans.
I hear you, I think they lost a lot of that initial intrigue when Artemis became less black and white
It's just like with Despicable Me. Once Gru stopped being despicable and turned into a goofy dad, he lost a lot of what made him interesting. Heck, from the second film onward, the only reason he even does anything is because someone else (the spy organization) tells him to do it, whereas in the first film, he was the one actively pushing the story forward with his plan to steal the moon and get revenge on Vector.
Eternity Code felt like a perfect ending
Time Paradox was fun but felt like it was undoing the first books. Like he didn’t learn anything from his previous experiences. Felt so disconnected from Eternity Code I thought the author forgot all the events that took place in the original trilogy. Didn’t read anything after this and i can’t see it getting better
I will never understand "Hollywood" mentality... Producers see a product like a book or video game become popular and amass fans but when they go to make a movie or show they strip away the source material because it doesn't fit the cookie cutter movie/show formula they are use to! I'm happy to see some producers take that step back and letting the creative prosses flourish but when they are breathing down the necks of the writer/directors we get adaptations in name only because of all the changes they insist must happen... I have a feeling someone up the chain HATED that AF was the villain and insisted on this fundamental change that affected the whole story.
Did you see that recent post by George RR Martin about this exact issue? He hit the nail on the head
Whats worse is that there are a lot of writers/directors who don’t see the adaptions as an opportunity to make a book come alive but instead are just an opportunity for them to make the movie THEY want to make. Like i know Ive heard stories of this where a director is put on an adaptation project, they don’t care enough to read the book, and instead treat it as an opportunity to make the movie they’ve always wanted to make. The end result being something that only pisses off fans of the book and drives away regular audiences because there was a reason that “movie they always wanted to make” couldn’t get backing on its own. Of course then there’s the who executives dilemma you mention. There is no winning with adaptations ;-;
They don't understand what made these stories good, and they often think it's obsolete remnants of bygone eras. It's like how they stripped Soka of his sexism in the Avatar Netflix series: they fail to understand that characters in kid stories have flaws that are generally addressed later on.
Flaws and tragedies, btw. Artemis Fowl's family is a tragedy for good reasons. He's not a normal kid that people are supposed to identify with completely.
@@exitsexamined Remember the well received short Uncharted movie starring Nathan Fillion? Fans went nuts when they saw over the shoulder camera, combat overview and transitions of scenes straight from the games... And during promotional interviews the director said that if he was making a full length movie he would not do any of those things. That was the moment when I stopped hoping adaptations would ever be good.
Nepotism and lack of accountability. What decides if you keep your job are social games and not the kind of product you've made.
Awesome I loved this series when I was younger, although the later chunk of the series wasn't as great as the start of the series. Great to see it get some appreciation
Hey totally agree, and happy to give it the appreciation it deserves. Any other series you were into as a kid that you think should get more love?
@exitsexamined I also read and enjoyed the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series when I was younger too. That would be a fun series to talk about
I remember not being able to stomach harry potter books when i was young (and it wasn't just the length coz i have always read bulky books and this is despite enjoying the HP movies) but i read and loved Artemis Fowl! I felt like Artemis was more grounded (for as much as a boy genius can be lol) and the magical world and angle was more fun and interesting.
We probably would have gotten along then! I would have loved to find someone else to bond over the series with haha. Everyone I knew was into Potter : (
@@exitsexamined 🤣 aww that's too bad. Great video btw!
I have a great respect for creators who know when to finish their works. These really should have stopped at book 3.
It would have been interesting to see how the story would have played out differently with only three. I do wonder if in all it would have been less episodic and hopefully a more fleshed out story from start to end
If you want another dead franchise suggestion , try Guyver. From what I understand, the author is stuck in legal battles over the IP
I had never heard of it, but wow Guyver looks amazing, a quick google search looks like it started as a manga which makes me all the more interested in it haha. Did you get into the manga, is it good?
Artemis Fowl was my entire childhood. I remember picking up the first book in my library when I was 12 and finishing it in a weekend because I was so intrigued by Artemis's character. The fact that he was also 12 but he was also this insanely intelligent yet cunning criminal mastermind, was so fascinating to me! And the fairy folk too! I love how we had descriptions for each category. I remember the versions of the book that I got, they had some sketches made by the artist at the back (but none of them really showed Arty or Butlers face because it was supposed to be an interview type thing...Arty lets Eoin Colfer write a book about his adventures and commisions an artist to do the illustrations at the back upon the agreement that his face was never to be shown! How cool was that!!)
And the graphic novels were so beautifully illustrated, I remember absolutely devouring them when they came out.
I was so obsessed with the series
It kind of inspired me to make art (im a digital artist now) and write fanfictions for my friend's to read. One of them was a crossover woth the Young Justice team (also another one of my hyperfixations at the time), where Butler drops Arty off with the team and Artemis makes fun of Arty for having a female name (HER NAME) haha and Arty hits it off with Dick Grayson :)
It was weird but I was 13!!
I remember the days where people were petitioning to have Nicholas Hoult play Arty as well
I really miss that phase of my life
Im 26 now, but I cant remember being thst happy and carefree
Artemis Fowl really made my childhood and early teens so fun and magical
Is it just me or does the Graphic Novel version of Artemis look a lot like Damien Wayne?
I can't unsee it
I got into this series when my parents bought me the audiobook of the eternity code, not knowing that it was the 3rd book of the series. I didn't figure that out myself until halfway through the book after constantly trying to piece together the whole backstory. :D
haha that would have been a really interesting place to start. Did it make sense? I can't imagine trying to piece together fairy society without the details in the first few books
@@exitsexamined It worked out well enough, surprisingly. I remember the author re-introduces characters a lot in case you might have forgotten about them (like Mulch and Juliet for example) and most of that book takes place in the human world. The significance of Artemis' bodyguard being shot at the beginning was kind of lost on me, because I obviously didn't know anything about Butler at that point. And I also didn't quite realize how bad the relationship between Artemis and the fairy society used to be. Because they get along fairly well by Book 3.
I felt like that, just with the fifth one :))
@exitsexamined a lot of series for younger readers make a habit of quickly synopsizing the previous books-probably bc a lot of kids won’t have control over what book they read first or maybe bc they don’t want a kid (who’s memory may not be great) to forget important details. Idk if it’s intentional in that light, i just know that i see it a lot. It makes it so much easier to get into things as a kid.
Damn, I was about 11 or 12 when I got into this series. The first books I became absolutely obsessed with. Peak nostalgia.
I got into it at the same age! Did you stick with it over the years?
I remember spending quite a bit of time when I was younger cracking the codes that littered the book and translating those messages.
We probably would have gotten along as kids! Did you crack the codes at the bottom of the pages?
Would you be interested in making a video about the Dark Crystal franchise? The 2019 Netflix sequel got canceled a while ago and no one's heard about it since...
That's a great idea! You know I remember watching that as a kid but I totally forgot about it haha. Thanks so much!
@@exitsexamined No problem, glad you found the idea useful!
That first book was an experience as a child
haha I can imagine it could be pretty shocking depending on the age. How old were you when you read it?
@@exitsexamined 7 or 8 ?
Fairly young
I recall I was waiting on the 5th or 6th Harry Potter novel to be released at the time.
Disney AND Eoin ruined it.
Eoin seemingly had such little respect for his own work that he made no attempt to stop Disney from changing it so radically. The movie looked nothing... _NOTHING_ ... like Artemis Fowl.
I did wonder about that while making the video. Ultimately Eoin was the one who signed it to Disney, and you get the feeling from interviews he genuinely wanted it to find a home that would take care of it in like 2001. This is just speculation but the feeling I got that after almost 20 years in development hell Eoin was sick of dealing with it and just wanted the movie to come out
He was absolutely _desperate_ to make a movie out of it from the very start. You could read it in the book blurbs, every single time it was all "Guys, the movie's totally in development! WIll be out by 2003!". He wouldn't mince a word against Disney, it was only after the movie crashed and burned that he kinda started hinting on this being a total trainwreck, but he never really stepped out of line. Maybe he still deludes himself into thinking Disney would pick up Supernaturalist or one of his other books. I don't know.
@@yarpen26Supernatualist, oh man... the one and only thing I remember from it is that some guy freaked out because he didn't know how to drive a bus with the "emergrncy" steering wheel that popped out of it. Kinda left an impression on be besause of how much it mirrors people not knowing how to drive stick.
I loved Artemis Fowl, so sad the movie didn't happen.
And now I've watched the video, I guess their was an anime for this
Hopefully we'll get another movie at some point in the future. The stills are from the graphic novels, although an anime would be really cool!
@@exitsexamined Nah, I think AF has wasted its opportunity. It should have been brought to the screen back in the 2000s, when everybody was trying to land another Harry Potter and studios would throw loads of money at anything with the YA label on it, but I think that fad largely died with The Hunger Games. And now that one movie has been an unmitigated disaster, it's very unlikely the license will ever be picked up again.
Yes, I know that Colfer did sign an agreement with Disney way back already, it just never panned out. He certainly did whatever he could to bring it to the screen when the series was fresh.
I think the stories of (ARTEMIS FOWL) should be made into a cartoon show.
If a cartoon show of it, gets made someday; I imagine main boy Artemis, goes from selfish, egocentric, mean jerk, to slowly becoming a genuine good person.
I think it would do wonderfully in a cartoon setting! I’d watch it so fast!
Loved the books as a kid and still do now. It felt like I got stabbed in the heart when I saw what they did to the movie.
You aren't the only one, sigh
Hopefully this will end up being like the Percy Jackson adaptation, where in 10 years they do a faithful reboot series
I only remember reading two Artemis Fowl books…
Shuld have gone to the Japanese anime scene for that movie adaptation.
I would have loved to see an Artemis anime. The graphic novels were already pretty cool!
These books got me into reading this type of series and the first book will always be among my favorite reads. Absolutely criminal what they did to the movie
I think an animated adaptation would be great. I love the Artemis Fowl series. I discovered it when I was in college and still enjoyed (most of) them. There's only two that I could really do without: The Time Paradox and The Atlantis Complex.
I used to love the Artemis Fowl graphic novels
Only vaguely related, there was a YA teen super-villain school series. Seem to recall the title was some kind of acronym.
Sounds like H.I.V.E?
Not much to go on but I'll do my best! I'll let you know if I find any haha
@@exitsexamined Went and looked for it out of curiosity. I remember it not being as grimdark as most teen hero/villain books and having a villain/mastermind track and henchmen course at the school. Pretty sure it was H.I.V.E after doing some googling.
H.I.V.E. ?
@@PolyChromium Yup, pretty sure that was it. Remember it being relatively light hearted, but fun.
Am I the only one who liked the later books? I thought the first two were fine but boring to reread as much as I did. I was so excited for the last book and loved it when it came out. Some of the books were good and some were more meh but they were all perfect for little nerdy child me.
I see what you're saying about the older books, and hey nothing wrong with liking with you like!
I thought they had some good ideas and concepts my main issue is that did become a little formulaic as in, the crew saves the day and everyone is happy, next and so the series kind of ran out of steam or a reason to stay invested. Alot of people seem to like many of the late books and put them as their favorite from the research I did though!
My HS had the first four books which was how I got to love them. I always pictured Jason Stratham as Butler and I'm still conviced he's the perfect face for the role.
I can 100% see that haha, and glad your HS had some good books!
These books defined my childhood preferences in books. My user names were based off these characters long into "adulthood". I wish the movie directors/script writters had introduced the true story to this new generation properly!
Other middle-grade and young adult series you should talk about: Alex Rider, Maximum Ride, Guardians of Ga'Hoole, The Spiderwick Chronicles, The Last Dragon Chronicles, Children of the Red King, and The Keys to the Kingdom.
I absolutely adored the first six Artemis Fowl books, with my favourites being the 1st and 5th. I read all of them probably 10 or more times growing up.
I think the series just had its time and success and that the author should have moved on to another series rather than continuing past book 6.
His standalone novels Airman and Half Moon Investigations were also EPIC.
I think there were a ton of amazing ideas in the first books, but agree, probably could have stopped after that. Cool to hear about Airman and Half Moon but I'll have to check it out! Is it a similar writing style to Artemis / written for younger audience?
I loved Airman!! Such a unique book
Its because of this series I own a sig sauer legion.
Hollywood now thinks having a young villain in a kids movie is a bad influence on kids now.
I think that's literally one of the reasons why they changed his character and he already has redeeming qualities and it's been proven he's an interesting character. There's been entire generations who read the series and weren't influenced to be what, fairy kidnappers? oh my god it's so frustrating haha
Nice video, I honestly enjoyed this books as a kid, and bc of this video, I think I might revist them 😁
Thanks so much! I'd say go for it, I had a blast rereading them for this vid!
This series holds an interesting place in my heart
My grandma got me the 6th book not knowing it was the 6th. I read it anyways and for whatever twisted reason, i then read the 5th, then the 4th, etc. THEN i read it in the proper order XD I would eventually read the final of the main series and i still fondly remember how i felt with that last sentence ♡
Now, some years later, my husband and i are reading it together when we take breaks from BattleTech ♡ being an engineer himself he adores Foley and even comments on the tech side & wher it gets odd ♡♡
And then there's the fairy language which inspired me to make my own cipher in middle(?) school
The movie honestly hurt because this was a series that bookwise went toe to toe with Harry Potter in ways. To see it go from a cult classic of sorts to whatever Disney tossed out hurts. But im still glad i got into it when i did ♡
Kind of bummed out i missed out on this book series as a kid. Sounds like something a younger me would have definitely enjoyed.
Rereading them for this video as an adult was fun as well! There's enough adult jokes and themes in here!
This book was so influential in my life that I still occasionally remember that scene where he used a pair of bandages to save the fairy by folding the points down on one ear and rolling the other into a point and convincing the crowd she was a normal girl and not a real life fairy
I absolutely loved this series, though I agree it fell kind of off after a while. Eternity Code would have been a decent conclusion, then the Opal Deception was a nice way to solve the dissatisfying parts of that ending while also managing to somewhat age with its audience.
Book five is where it started to go bad, mostly because it kind of just casually reverted some of the big changes of the end of the previous book. It also started the trend to go extremely wild with the magic system, each part adding more outlandish magic as opposed to the relatively strict rules used in the first half.
Lesson; never let Disney do your book adaptation 😝 Everything they touch nowadays (and the last couple years) turns not to gold but to poopy 😝 I still love the book series but I agree that the last books somehow lost some of the magic the first ones had. I think partially due to Artemis being full on «good/hero» and lost his «anti-hero/ambiguousness» charm in those last books 🤔
As a kid Harry Potter, Artemis Fowl and Percy Jackson were all a similar vibe (young male protagonist in a modern day+ mystical setting) and I loved all three of these series. Afterwards I had moved on to adult fantasy series but these three tween series I really liked (and I can still enjoy them today! 🤗)
That's a great point I should have claried more in the video! Towards the end of the series Artemis 100% lost a lot of his moral ambiguity which I guess kind showed growth in his character in some ways but he did lose some that appeal. And love Percy Jackson too! I'll be ramping up to make a video about it at some point but there's alot in that universe to cover!
I remember reading first three books when I was in middle school. They were quite cheesy to my taste even back then and I didn't liked the Fantasy part, but I really enjoyed everything else that was around Artemis Fowl! He was perfect as an evil mastermind that is always two steps ahead his foes
ooooooh i need to reread that series, i was sooo into it in middle school
I the first few were awesome to jump back into! They have some great audiobook versions as well
Back when Merlin (the show) was airing I remember seeing Asa Butterfield in it as young mordred and thinking how perfect he would've been as Artemis with his dark hair and striking blue eyes and kinda gloomy feel to him. It's been almost 2 decades and I'm still mad we didn't get an Artemis fowl adaptation with Asa.... These books hold such a special place in my heart and the fact that the movie adaptation we got after decades is fucking awful is just so sad
Gods, I feel so bad for how this series ended!
I LOVED the first six books (especially Artemis Fowl, The infinity code and The Opal deception), and I was very sad to see the next two books were a big downgrade from the previous instalments of the series. I was even more disappointed when, upon buying the Fowl Twins spinoff the whole thing just seemed like a failed attempt to give people closure of the last series and continue the universe. The level dropped significantly from the AF series and I, once a very dedicated fan who was so caught on in Artemis's adventures she pulled an all night-er just to finish the Eternity Code to literally spending three weeks TRYING to find something significantly good about the spinoff that would give me enough motivation to finishing it (spoiler alert: I never found it).
I am so incredibly glad I am not the only one stuck with the books in my head, because from the moment I read the whole series more than one year ago (I had read the first four books before, but was not aware there were more until a year and a bit ago) these dam fairies and criminal masterminds have been living rent free in the center of my skull and each time I think of them (which is like a minimum of five times a day, mind you) my heart aches knowing that series that got me through my seventh and eight year of school will never get the closure it deserves.
I really enjoyed the first 5 books. But the way the 6th book seemed to drop all the setup, especially Minerva, it kinda killed all momentum I had to keep reading the series.
I haven't read it since the third book was released, but I think I recall one of the games being about the encoded elvish along the top and bottom of the first book. My memory is very rusty though.
It all went to heck in the sixth book. At least for me. Three and four are some of my favourite YA novels to date.
I will NEVER see that movie.
Side note: read Airmen. Its another banger from this author.
I agree. Book six was a steep dropoff in quality. Book 5 was my favourite. Billy Kong as the villain was thrilling. And yes, Airman is an absolute BANGER!
Seems a lot of people are recommending Airman! I haven't checked it out, but looks cool! Is it similar to. the Artemis series?
@@exitsexaminedAirman is historical action adventure fiction set in the late 1800s.
@exitsexamined Also read the Supernaturalist, another Colfer book.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm not too sad that the book series is over.
The first three are among my favourite books, which I do occasionally re-read, just for the sake of nostalgia.
But the sequels? Gonna be honest, I feel like they're just lacking direction and start losing their bite, especially once you get to the lost colony and the mess that is the time paradox.
Artemis also just becomes less interesting. One of the things that make him a compelling character is how in spite of all his brains, he sometimes is a bit of an idiot. Like when Butler expresses concerns about his social skills and tries to stress the importance of communication and Artemis just shruggs it off by boasting about his extensive vocabulary.
That's a fair take I think - did you read any of the spin offs or the twin series?
@@exitsexamined I think I may have read the one with the short stories at some point, but nothing about the twins.
My only complaint about the story was they didn't follow up on the Holly Artemis romance wouldn't have been bad to go thru but I think it would've gone better for it to come up and the age difference addressed and his youth even for his species, and just be very good friends who care about each other with a DEEEEEEEEEEEP respect and trust due to tge unusual circumstances they've gone thru.
Wait, there were more than three books?
Why did you think it ended at 3 haha
Man, I had such a crush on Foaly that I stopped reading the series when he got a girlfriend lmao
i had a huge crush on artemis lmfao
Like another comment dives into, it's obvious that Colfer didn't know what to do with the characters after the Opal Deception. IMO the series really should have ended then and there, but you know, money talks. The last book I read as a kid was The Last Colony, and after that I couldn't really bother keeping up with the series. Mind you, I was also EXTREMELY obsessed with these books at one point, but I was almost a teenager by the time the Last Colony came out and it wasn't good enough to keep me hooked.
Artemis wasn't an anti-hero anymore, and his redemption arc had fully been completed in OD. Most of the relationships between the characters were boring by now (again, several arcs had been completed at this point) and I found Minerva, whose introduction did genuinely have the potential to jump start a whole new arc for Artemis, to be incredibly underutilized. Not necessarily as a romantic partner for Artemis, but as a foil and/or new arch nemesis in general (though speaking of romance, yes, I do find it weird and cliche that Colfer eventually shoe horned in an Artemis Holly romance).
I never bothered actually reading the 6th and 7th books (read their wiki summaries instead), but I did check out the Last Guardian purely out of nostalgia purposes. It was fine as a send off to my favorite childhood series, but even that didn't compel me to go back to the installments that I had missed. Tbh, I will always consider The Opal Deception to be the true ending of the series. That first half of the Artemis Fowl saga is just unmatched.
Personally, I'd say it should have stopped after 4, given what we got.
The closest that Artemis and Holly should have been was as found family siblings. Shipping them is just weird and wrong.
Some of the lines the Artemis Fowl Series and the Supernaturalist make me think Colfer needs some pointers on how technology and modern firearms work.
Edti: there was already precedent before this movie of digital only content getting deplatformed. And it has happened since. For all this movie's many sins, it is not alone to blame for that problem.
Edit2: That premise for continuing the series doesn't interest me. In fact, I would be inclined to avoid such a release. Over the course of the books, Artemis STARTED as the villain, but eventually became a hero. Having him be corrupted by power regresses him by undoing that progress, and again, him being in a romance with Holly is a bad idea.
The gnomish language was fun to translate. I remember I got to the point where I could basically read it like English.
I wish I had you as a pen pal in middle school - would have LOVED to write a letter to someone in gnomish haha
10:12 Yes, because physical media never stops being produced. I don't get why people hate on digital media when literally ever flaw of digital media is 1000x worse in physical media and people act like bootlegging isn't a thing. "But it's le illegal!" That's a flaw of IP law, not of digital media.
the only good thing about the movie is it inspired me to read the books. I was gonna lazily just watch the movie but when I saw how bad it was and heard how much better the books were, I was like yeah I gotta see what this story is like when told right. It took me a couple of years to read all eight books as I read other books in between. I have also read the ebook with the bonus material. I did not know about the Fowl twins books, I might check them out now. More books in the series would be awesome. I think the best way to adapt the series would be an animated tv series that loyaly adapts the series almost exactly. screw the movie makers for not letting Artemis be evil. if you didnt want to make a movie about a kid villain protagonist, don't adapt a book bout a kid villain protagonist. I noticed the movie combined elements of the first two or three books. the main plot was based on the first book but there were scenes from the second book in it, like the scene with the counsellor.
I love Artemis Fowl, and as with everything I love, I know it has flaws. That said, I didn't think the episodic nature was one of them, because while there was no overarching plot, the characters were not stagnant, especially not Artemis himself. I will contend that Artemis Fowl II has one of the most dynamic (not the best) character arcs in fiction.
Fair enough, just one opinion anyway and great to meet other people who are into the series! I didn't mean to imply that Artemis or the characters were stagnant more so that the books were episodic. Totally agree though Artemis from first to last book is totally different
I think that this comment section is the best place to start my search:
Anyone of you remember "Matt Hidalf"? Four books(at least four of them were released in my language), bratty (and egotistical) protagonist and his odd companions(sisters, his very... specific father and cunning mother, his classmates with vary level of inteligence), written by French author(?), published circa 2014? I remember that pacing of series was weird and, overall, it was not that good but I like it as guilty pleasure, few concepts from books would be awesome in something better.
Have no idea on my part at least - but if someone knows the title I'd be happy to put it on my list of topics to cover - sounds cool!
Google knows all about it all right so I guess your research is over.
Colin Ferrell as his dad was the best part of the movie
Can we all agree that
A. Minerva deserves more appearances, but I still like Hollytemis
B. Opal Koboi is like William Afton, she ALWAYS comes back.
C. Orion Fowl is the goat
like to agree
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Also he made sense as a child villain if you were raised elite, upperclass, and ridiculous smart with wealth you had slipping through your hands you'd dig your hands and teeth in to stop it
As soon as i saw the title i couldnt flphysically stop myself from saying Disney out loud.
when I was young I photoshopped banners for an artemis fowl fansite. I always wonder what happened to the guy who created that site.
I honestly thought the books became *less* mature as the series went on, as opposed to Harry Potter. Especially when the Extinctionists got in there. I get it. Eating the last animal of a species is bad. Doing that repeatedly as a hobby is super bad. And it kept being rubbed in. That just felt like a plot for 8 year olds, while I was 16 at the time.
How could COVID 19 have delayed it in 2019 when the very first case was seen in December 2019, and it wasn't declared a public health emergency until early the next year?
Would you say Artemis Fowl’s fall is rather FOUL?
One of the only books I've ever seen a commercial for when I was younger they had a big marketing push
Really! I had no idea, where was the commercial? North America? I wish i had included that in the video!
@@exitsexamined I think it was actually on an old VHS of something I used to own. I can’t for the life of me remember what movie it was but it was somewhere between 1999 and like 2002 or 03.
I remember it because it included a lot of review quotes and at the end it briefly flashed between the code language and English
The only book I really don't like from the series is the last one. I cannot believe how Colfer just outright reversed character development, and flanderized its characters into one of the most awkward stories ever. At least book 7 had things going for it. 8 should've had Miranda at the very least, too. And Number 1's appearance in it pissed me off so much more than if they had just left him behind.
I can live with the Artemis x Holly as a weird one-off thing in book 6, but I'd rather that had never been a plot point. I don't even dislike Opal either, but Turnball is a much more compelling villain, and after how she was reduced to her most basic aspects in book 8... I cannot express how furious I was when reading that book. Orion was for nothing as well.
I know many people wanted the story to stop in the third book, but Opal Deception is actually my favorite, and where I think the series peaked.
The Atlantis Complex I know is also widely disliked, but goddamn, save from a few details like the shit with orange magic, it was a very strong entry. The Orion persona might've worked better as a multibook issue to resolve, but at least I liked the exploration of that suppressed side of Artemis. Book 8 being the most offensive outlier should've made Artemis integrate him entirely. The Last Guardian could've had so many great pay-offs.
I do agree with many that Artemis should've still kept making scores as the main focus of the series. From book 6 til the end, nothing like that happens anymore. I don't mind him becoming good or grey, though. It's just natural progression. It was simply mishandled.
I've been reading and enjoying the books recently and think it could be a great animated series which probably won't happen sadly.
Well, disney does have this other book series called Kingdom Keepers. Hopefully a video can be made on that series and i feel like an adaptation of the first Artemis book, percy Jackson, and maybe an in-between story for the keepers could happen kingdom hearts 4 with the new realm of unreality.
Wow, Kingdom Keepers looks interesting, that's a great point. i wonder if Artemis could appear in other Disney media. Would be literally insane to see him in kingdom hearts haha I honestly don't know what I'd do
I don't know why I thought the name Artemis Fowl came from To Kill a Mockingbird.
Woof, that puts a totally different spin on fairy / human relations
damn butler's name, domovoi, is slavic how do u mess that up
Please cover skullduggery pleasant please please please ❤️
The disconnect between the books and the movie hit like truck, I used to listen to rappers like Bliss n Eso name drop Artemis Fowl and laugh when my mates didnt get it, then got served the most banal movie i had watched in years. Even with amazing talent on the actors, the story just would not let it hit :(
Wow can you link the songs that people name dropped artemis, that's amazing haha
Oh yeah my favorite young adult book series growing up was CRAZY, written by someone with this weird “Marquis de Sade” pseudonym, never released any new books but had a lot of them. A bit violent and nonchristian and used antiquated language but that’s the average YA book experience I guess
Wait was the book called crazy? i'm trying to find it but can't find anything - if you give the details I can write it on my list of topics to cover
I absolutely love Artemis fowl and, this might be controversial, I am glad Colfer seems to be letting it die at least mostly peacefully. Books can die two ways, peacefully at the authors choice and agonizingly with the author trying to squeeze every last cent out of the audience. It sounds like he is doing the first, which in my opinion ends much better for everyone. Side note: if he found the romance between Holly and Artemis gross too why in the world did he write it?!?
I totally agree, I personally think it should have let lie awhile back. I think he wrote it because fans seemed to not like minerva at the time and instead want a holly + Artemis and he caved, but that's speculation!
I'll watch it but at first I'd say... Not really? I mean the series has been over for a long time. I imagine the movie was just him selling the rights for money.
Now to actually watch the video I just disagreed with instead of just responding to the thumbnail.
Edit: Ok, I watched it. And I like it, well done.
My one main disagreement (yes, even with Colfer) is I like the Holly and Artemis romance as it is in the books. Now let me explain before you all kill me. I like it because from what I remember it's mainly about Artemis having a thing for Holly. And that makes total sense. Young teenage boy who's smarter than all the girls his age and the female antagonist/friend (who healed his mother) who looks more like someone he's supposed to be into (around his age in looks) but is near his intellectual level. He could easily develop a crush on her. Though it's good it didn't go anywhere.
I've read and enjoyed all the books. You're not wrong that it kind of became more formulaic but I would argue that you're wrong that Harry Potter had a connected storyline. It had disconnected storylines with an overarching villain until the last... Three books... Kinda. Even though 2 of those 3 books aren't really about fighting Voldemort either.
Sad we (probably) won't get grown up Artemis, that would have been a good book.
I LOVE the original trilogy. The next two were good, but not quite up to par. The last three… I like to forget those exist. I just feel that so many cool characters were discarded in favor of Holly and Artemis. The books seem to do better when it’s a group act. They also seemed a lot less funny to me… probably because of the lack of characters to bounce jokes off of. Unfortunately, I kind of saw the movie coming because of the disappointment from the last three books
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welcome to online only videogames, there is a growing movement for preservation of thngs with peer to peer connections or other ways to keep things
That's so true, not just online only games from what I hear. Which games in particular are you thinking of? Maybe I'll cover them!
funny thing is it's still my fav, even now in my 30's and while the last book was total dog shit it's still remain in my heart as a book that got me through some dark stuff during my early child hood.
It's a great series, I bet a ton of people feel the same since it came out at such a pivotal point in people's lives since it was targeted to YA. How did you feel about the middle books?
The only thing that stopped Artemis Fowl from being the fantasy juggernaut my Harry Potter was Harry Potter
That's interesting - it does make you think how many other YA fantasy novels that could have blown up took a seat during the whole Harry Potter thing
So for myself Artemis Fowl fail, because it refuses to evolve, the books keep coming with new random and unnecessary conflicts to push the story in this big "entropy" state that doesn't really develop in any direction, because the new conflict keep erasing the past development, i feel that if the story stop with 3 books things would be way better, but things really start to go bad after book 5
Honeslty if the series wanted to do romance/mature and show Artemisis growing interest in girls and the creator felt that he x holly was weird and felt it was gross. Then why not just give Artemis a love interest that's a girl he saves or pulls free from the same dark path he was on at the start?
Example how about Opal? That may sound weird but hear me out. Opal and Artemis are in a way foils to eachother and reflections of what they could of been had they had the right or wrong people in their lives.
Have him mature and realize Opal is a reflection of who he could of been without his support base of people that care for him and push him to be better and grow.
Each time they defeated her, she got worse and worse and more twisted and cruel.
Have him realize he wrote her off without seeing the bigger picture of how she was always never given the attention or credit she felt she rightuflly deserved just beacuse she was a girl.
How her own parents didn't support her, despite her genius and even her own father tried to force her only to go to coleldge to get married rather than study.
And how all that ate at her until she became a narrisist to compensate and treid to overthrow the fairy world to make one where she could in her own mind, thrive. And how he can understand that and even relate to it and how for a time he thought that way too. That he'd force the world to recongize his genius if neccearyy.
Take ALL that. And make him decide to reach out to her and offer her a kind hand and compassoion and undeerstanding and have her realize it's honest and take it eventually if it's books down the road.
To avoid it feeling gross, it could be enteirly non physical and more a showing of Aremis maturity that he's helping someone get better and not feel alone. With the implicatoin once she's recovered mentally she might be honeslty interested in him.
Once he's a bit older.
That way you fix all the issues and don't make it too fetishy cause it has a meaningful thing to say about how some truly gifted people are treated unfarily by the world if they don't fit into the places theya re meant to.
I loved this book series when I was younger! I enjoyed it enough to get thru the formulaic boredum! I definitely memory holed the movie tho 😂 it was bad
Hey there's something to be said for formulaic fun! And memory hole, first time I've heard that lol. I'll have to remember to do that for a couple of movies in my life haha
bro from the quality of the video i thought you had 100k+ subs good jobbbb
Hey thanks so much, I really try my best with each video. Just goes to show amount of subs isn't always indicative of quality! Thanks so much for giving my channel a shot though!
wow i forgot there was even a movie.
Honestly, it might be for the best haha
NGL the biggest disappointment I had with the series was the final mainline book, where I felt the paradox plot was completely fumbled. I think the author should've had the clone wake up during the chaos and sent it back to replace the time-displaced one, making there be no paradox in the end. Maybe still have the sacrifice, but the clone isn't involved and make the new body creation reveal that someone had been secretly attempting to hybridize themselves in an apparent hope of acquiring inherent magical ability and the way the replacement source was gathered made it practically impossible to not make it a half-elf, implying yet another supervillainous plot layer for a giggle. Le sigh maybe someday I'll fanfic...
i was pretty fond of this series as a kid! i also spent hours decoding the gnommish lines, and my friend group would often say d'arvit since it technically wasn't a real swear that we could get reprimanded for lol. artemis was such a little punk at first, and it was satisfying to see him gradually become somewhat of a decent person by the end of the series. i refuse to watch the movie bc i know it'd just piss me off, but the fact that they bastardized the characterization to such an extent is just baffling. if they were trying to revitalize the series and introduce a new generation of kids to these books, why would they release an adaptation that scrapped everything that made the characters unique?
Hey! Sounds like we would have been friends in school haha. I feel the same way about the movie, hopefully if the stars align one day there will be a better one!
All my favorite books get the worst movies i stg 😭 i have minor problems with the graphic novels (mainly the holly whitewashing) but at least they followed the plot! I literally got my username from book 5, as No1 is my favorite character in the series, and Opal is one of the few characters i legit hate as a person. I can only hope that someday the series gets a better adaptation (i feel an animated series would be great) i also taught myself to read gnommish, and kinda spoiled the last book for myself by translating the message first 😅
The fact that he did not end up with the elf is a crime
Well, one could argue if he had ended up with her because of the age difference it would also be a crime
@@exitsexamined good thing those people don't know how old arwen and Aragon are
touché my friend, touché
The series ended and was as perfect as it gets... in the books
A character like Artemis Fowl wouldn't be allowed in children book nowadays.
Artemis Fowl never fell I've read all the books even the last book even though not the best in the series wasn't terrible no yes they got showed off by Disney and you know destroyed put being murdered isn't a Fall From Grace it's a murder