What I really love is that James wrote Jack to be a lovable guy so the audience also falls in with him and when he dies we as the audience feel that loss and that's how the survivors who loss someone felt. So losing Jack was a representation of all the victims that were lost.
lol Jack wasnt likable at all. he lied to his friend, was a thief, the relationship with rose wasnt authentic, no indication he was even from the UK, we know that he wasnt but why is jack American to begin with?
Yeah, yeah, everyone loves Jack… but that’s only because they haven’t seen his shady side. Like, how every time he plays poker, he cheats. “Just a friendly game of cards” with good ol’ Jack cost my Grandfather Sven and his friend Olaf their tickets to America. They got stuck In Southampton for a year, arguably a fate worse than death.
Don't see many mentioning this...but I always appreciated how the movie showed the crew having to go through the labor of sorting passengers, loading lifeboats, readying equipment, dealing with doors that have warped or been broken. The actual time cost of labor and the emotional state of the crew as they have people yelling at them and screaming for their lives is rarely factored into the conversation.
It's the little attention to detail that made Titanic stand out from the other film productions in 1997-98, but also the 90s and beyond in general. Cameron even invited etiquette people on set to teach the cast how people in 1912 would eat in 1st class.
the Costa Concordia could have been the second biggest disaster if that rock did not stop it from sinking. That was a close call. The ship had flipped on is side so the lifeboats could not be launched. Many were able to swim to the shore as the shore was also very close, although some drowned too. Others panicked and jumped when the ship was going down and the force of the water pulled them down. The rest were able to walk off the side of the ship in total darkness onto boats from the Italian coast guard. The passengers were on their own as the capitan had abandoned the ship. Over 30 people did die. I know of one worker from Mumbai who had gone back to look for more passengers but did not make it. He had helped a lot of passengers giving them directions on how to get off.
the crew of the Costa Concordia also were very helpful to directing passengers off the ship even after it had flipped on its side and they had to find alternative routes. Of course the captain was a coward. They had one worker from Mumbai that had helped many to get of the ship directing them where to go. He went back into the ship to look for more passengers and lost his life. His body was the last to be discovered during recovery. People don't realize how close that disaster came to being a major disaster with hundreds of lives lost. Some swam to the shore. Others panicked and jumped too soon and were pulled under. They literally were walking on the side of the ship to boats manned by the US coast guard and the boats of local fishermen. Hundreds almost died. Such a close call.
The one guy I give very high praise to is that stunt guy for enduring all that. Seeing him shake so bad got me worried. Yeah the stunt woman was also affected but not as bad. This was a very well made reenactment and the movie was really great too. James is a great director and producer and I admire his tenacity to get things a correct as possible.
if you also rewatch the movie, Rose was shivering and Jack really wasn't, which further supports the re-enactment where shivering would have helped you live longer.
The Carpathia needs its own movie. She navigated the fields that sunk the Titanic and saved the 700+ people. The crew had tables, chairs and life boats all ready to go. And the crew worked in the darkness and so quietly they didn’t wake the rest of the passengers on board.
Cameron is correct. Based on Jack’s character, he would’ve definitely sacrificed his life to make sure Rose lived. In that moment, his priority was Rose. He also represents all the passengers who sacrificed their lives to help their loved ones get on the boat and have a chance to live. That’s the point of his character. He’s always meant to die. He represents all the people that were lost in that tragedy.
Exactly. In real life Astor really put his wife on the boat. He really wanted to make sure she was okay even if it was a drill. Flat out. Him and their dog died.
Another thing they didn't take into account was not only was the water warmer in this experiment, but the air temp was way warmer. So yeah his temps were pretty good when he kept his torso above water, but only because the air in that room was infinitely warmer than where the titanic sunk
Coming from a career engineer…this special should be shown in middle and high school science and engineering classes. This is how you experiment, test, etc. - the scientific method is in full display here. A LOT of prep, model, test, revise, re-test, etc. and then you STILL have variables to account for. Sometimes what you get is still a best guess but it’s MUCH better than just blindly guessing!!!
I love how James Cameron spent so much time proving that he was right about how he portrayed the ship sinking in the movie... I can appreciate that level of commitment.
He has always tried to figure out everything the titanic offers as far as stories go. It’s a fascinating thing to watch him talk about ANYTHING related to the ship. He wants the knowledge about the sinking and how the night went, almost like he wants the stories that can’t be told but he wants to know them.
The fact that people are still interested 25 years later is amazing. And that people still want to see Jack surviving. I’m grateful that I got to go see this movie when it came out in theaters in the late 90s. Just absolutely fascinating that people are still interested. And, like other comments have said, this really did happen to real people.
I have so much respect for James. He isn't just a filmmaker, that's honestly his hobby at this point. His real passion is science and exploration. And he uses his love of nature and science to enhance his filmmaking, and he uses his filmmaking to further his passion. It's a gorgeous relationship really when you think about it. And _Titanic_ is a film that holds up as well as it does, because of the sheer amount of passion put into it, not just on a story telling level, but a technological level as well. The film holds up, because you can believe the ship is there. Unlike with CGI where your mind is constantly aware that what you are looking at isn't really there.
@KaraOfTheSea he used SOME CGI. Cameron legit built to near scale models of the ship. For what he couldn't build he created via cgi. He, along with Christopher Nolan, knows how to blend the two masterfully
@AceCoordinatorRibotto 👍. It was pretty good for the time. Rewatching it now in HD, you can reeeally notice the CGI. But when it was still SD, it was really seamless. It is also crazy that the flooding of the sets were all practical effects.
@KaraOfTheSea I dunno I'm still pretty impressed, and it is hard to tell the cgi unless you REALLY know what to look for. Like i didn't even know entire sections of the ship could be removed until i saw a video from Oceanliner Designs. To me, that's part of why this film holds up so well.
@AceCoordinatorRibotto Oh! Don't get me wrong it is still really impressive! The only time it is distractingly noticeable is when the ship is leaving the dock. (The people look goofy, but the background still looks really pretty)
One thing the Jack and Rose experiments did not take into account is the fact that it was pitch dark out side, unlike the well-lit room where the experiment was conducted. The darkness would have made it much more difficult for them to coordinate on any kind of strategy to keep both of them afloat on the door.
Excuse! Excuse! From people saying this cause they want Jack to survive so badly. Like James said their only mistake in the movie was not making that door smaller in order for people to see that Jack must die.
Exactly, air temperature. I'm surprised they didn't mention it here. If the water was 28 degrees fahrenheit, the air was either around the same or, more likely, colder, out there in the middle of the arctic, Atlantic Ocean. Plus, at the point of the ship having gone down for good, both of em had been in wet clothes, in and out of water for about 2 hours. It's a miracle Rose made it. Jack wouldn't have survived.
A round of applause for these stunt actors who actually gave it their all and didn’t just “do the motions” they ACTED the characters and they did a great job! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I like that he considers their characters in this experiment. It can’t be ignored. The entire movie is based around their relationship. Jack attempted once to get on the door and it failed. He loves Rose enough that he’s willing to sacrifice his life to keep it stable for her. Could he have survived? Yes, but it’s not as simple as a lot of people who had an issue with this scene make it seem as this experiment shows. The door being big enough was more of an oversight than jack’s death being a contrivance for the plot. Jack’s death makes sense in story and statistically.
26:30 why couldnt they have gotten Leo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet back for this documentary for the "floating door" segment, and then just made sure they had fitness coaches weeks before to get them to their 1996-era figures?
@@Defender78You say that like it’s easy. You have to remember that they are 25 years older than they were when they filmed the movie. It was probably much easier to get body doubles then have Leo and Kate morph their bodies back 25 or so years.
That, the fact that bodies react differently at a different age and you have to consider their real-life relationship too. You see how hard it was for the two amazing stuntmen here in this video to go through this experiment, there is a zero chance that Kate or Leo would've made it through this experiment, essentially jeopardizing each other's lives for science. Just my thoughts, because I saw how clingy they are about each other (in a good way).
The movie created a human story that we could all respond to that put the tragedy of the Titanic into a true perspective. The desire to save Jack is reflecting the powerful desire we all have to save them all.
Yes, exactly. This is something that so many people don’t understand. Of course Jack didn’t survive, that would’ve given a movie about a real life tragedy a happy ending. The movie makes it so we get attached to the characters and lose one just like how in real life people lost their loved ones. It put into perspective what it was like losing someone on that ship
That's such an obvious connection and yet it's one I never made. Maybe it's because of my emotional attachment to the film that I never stopped to try to look any deeper, but also maybe it speaks to the impact the film has in its realism and the connection it's able to create between the audience and the characters. The idea that the obsession with the door comes from wanting to undo the trauma experienced from that scene makes a lot of sense. I feel like because we as the audience know it's a real event, and because the film was excecuted so authentically, that unlike other films that have traumatic events but are completely fictional, Titanic is experienced in a much more vivid way. We truly do experience a real iota of what it was like to live that horrible event, and to lose someone in it, and it's impactful enough that Jack's death has stuck with us for 25 years.
Exactly. People can argue and and down the wall about the raft but at the end of the day if Jack lived and it was a happy ending it would’ve been a disservice to how tragic the event actually was for real people who lost loved ones
Got to hand it to James Cameron for his dedication to his craft, but more importantly, the lengths he has been willing to go over the years to try & get everything right when it comes to Titanic. Yes he wanted to make an entertaining movie & he certainly accomplished that, but this goes way beyond just making a great film, it's a passion project for James that started way before one frame of film was shot, & continues all these years later. Awesome!
I've become re-obsessed with my love of Titanic history after the OceanGate submersible tragedy. Rewatched Titanic (my favorite movie) and realized for the first time that the creation of the movie truly was making history, as there was no other depiction of what likely happened. And never realizing exactly how much Cameron put into discovering this history, virtually screenwriting history in the making through a love of physics and science. Cameron is a Masterpiece--making mastermind on all levels.
I’ll always have a massive respect for Cameron with this film. I could care less about Jack and Rose’s story, but how accurately he portrayed Titanic and the fact that he went back to see what he got wrong made my respect for him grow even more. Not a lot of film makers do that.
Thank you. The Jack & Rose story was a pointless story that had NO BEARING on the actual true story. The thousands of REAL people who died, froze, drowned, or were thrown around the ship like a rag doll. He showed the story albeit with the goofy and corny love story added, but aside from that he did do a spectacular job on this film.
That Takes All The Romance Out Of It! Without Jack And Rose The Movie Would Be Forgotten! Everyone Remembers The Titanic Film For It's Iconic " I'm Flying" Scene.
What I appreciate about him the most is I think he knows his genius, but explains it on paper, visually, didactically so everyone who learns differently can understand. That is a true leader and genius
After watching this I am amazed that they were able to save the number of people they did. The real-life situation must have been terrifying for everyone.
The scariest part is unlike the movie, it was a moonless night with nothing but the stars to light the water. Once the lights went out it was basically pitch black. Nothing but creaks and screams to be heard. The people on the boats go from hearing screams and splashing to an hour later not hearing any noise because everyone was either dead or dying and couldn’t move from being frozen and no blood circulation to the vital organs. The lifeboats waited too long to go back, it took them almost 2 hours to float back and look for survivors.
@@hildagranados5623 This is true, but we have to remember that we're looking back on this disaster with full hindsight, and as the saying goes, hindsight really is 20/20. But before the Titanic disaster, there had never been a shipwreck of this magnitude, with these conditions, playing out just beyond the threshold of survivability. Plus, there was a real concern about the weight of the lifeboats, whether or not they could hold all of the weight. With every factor that we know now, versus what they didn't know back then, Monday morning quarterbacking things isn't realistic, in this case. Feasible? Yes, but again, the knowledge of the crew is limited to 1912 standards, not 2023 standards.
@@hildagranados5623 I agree. What happened with the Titanic never should have happened. So many human errors, one after another, that took so many lives. From trying to make the ship go faster when it was brand new to not filling those boats up better. It was a tragedy that easily would have been avoided if people were not in it for the money and the headlines. Which of course they got their headlines. Just not the one that they wanted.
This movie is absolute perfection in ever form and nothing less.. The story, the historical accuracy [with everything we knew at the time], the production, the science, the acting, the music/soundtrack, even the deleted scenes [everything Cameron does makes some sort of sense]. He did the story of Titanic SO much justice while still invoking the same emotions that were felt over 100 years ago and still to this very say thru simple visuals or just the music itself. There's not ONE component of this masterful piece of art that is wrong, which makes me love it all the more. The perfection in itself and the power of Titanic is... absolutely awe inspiring.
Biggest revelation was how much Rose’s coat helped her even when it was soaked. They always say that wool insulates when wet, and cotton doesn’t. So I guess Cal helped to save her when he PUT THE COAT ON HER
I love James Cameron!! ❤️ What's hilarious is that his final response to the debate of whether Jack could have survived or not is basically to say, "even if he could have lived, I should have made the raft smaller." 🤣🤣 So, he's basically telling the audience that your hearts were gonna break, no matter what. Lol
I enjoyed his response to be honest, he was entirely determined on the story and committed to the point he intended to make with the story he told. And I can understand that.
People don't take into account the fact that there were people who got completely out of the water that night but because they were already soaked in freezing cold water and they couldn't change clothes or dry off or warm up, they still succumbed to hypothermia. Even if Jack had gotten completely out of the water it wouldn't have guaranteed his survival, it would have increased his chances of survival to maybe 50%.
Right, and it was a good way to end the movie considering it’s based on a real life tragedy. Giving it a happy ending wouldn’t have made much sense. The movie allows us to get attached to characters and lose one just like how people lost their loved ones in real life. It made it so much more emotional because it put it all into perspective
What James Cameron did is put everybody who was watching the film towards that ending, in the mindset of every husband and wife who were on that ship. You have to remember that a lot of the husbands purposely and willingly stayed on the ship as their wives and children were loaded aboard the life rafts. Knowing that they were going to die, but that their deaths would allow more women and children to survive. A definite sign of the times, when marriage meant till death, do we part. So Jack and Rose were simply meant as symbols for the husbands and wives, who mostly went through the same thing. Maybe in different ways, but I’m sure there were many that very closely resembled what the movie showed. Which would’ve been even more harrowing, with everybody else swimming around you trying to survive. Not only the motion of the waves that they were creating, but I’m sure many would have tried to get on anything they could have to get out of that water. Regardless, if somebody else was on it or not. Just due to the sheer pain they must’ve been in being in that water. As Mr. Cameron said… Unless Jack would have understood, not only physics, but hyperthermia… There would’ve been no way for him to know how to keep them both alive. Especially in the circumstances surrounding them, and the possibility of somebody else, swimming up and knocking her off. So the only way he could assure her survival was to make sure that he stayed where he was, and balanced the board and made sure nobody else got to her. Definitely a brilliant summation of the entirety of everybody on the ship. Displayed brilliantly in the acting.
He made the greatest movie ever made, and the popularity was so insane, so much more than anything that exists today, that it obscured how good it actually was. And the fascination with the floating door is people trying to cope with the trauma of that ending and that scene, to try to undo it psychologically
It's why I always laugh when people talk about how the "Avatar" movies are superior to "Titanic". Whenever people talk about "Avatar", it's always about the box office and nothing more. When it comes to "Titanic", it's a quarter century later and people STILL won't shut up about whether they could have fit on the board to the point that Cameron showed how impossible it was, even with glimmers of hope.
Some actual survivors of the Titanic were saved from freezing cold water. Yet, even though they could get in the lifeboats from other passengers, their core temperature was seriously affected, leading to untimely deaths many months or years after the sinking. For example, First-class passenger Colonel Archibald Gracie wrote a book about his experience on the Titanic and what he witnessed during and after the sinking. About six months after the horrible sinking and after writing his book, he died from the long-term effects of hypothermia. Therefore, Rose would still lose Jack if they could get rescued from a lifeboat on the RMS Carpathia to New York City together.
if you are not in a super criticial state where you wont really recover then hypothermia usually has no long lasting effects (maybe some lose fingers). the example you gave is a diabetic that also had some injuries and not really recovered from the situation.
This is very entertaining. I have always been fascinated with Titanic. I had a once-in-a-lifetime experience involving that ship. A set of Titanic’s Whistles were recovered from the ocean floor in 1993. Some friends gave us tickets to the Titanic Exhibit back in February 1999 in St. Paul, Minnesota. All the artifacts and the “Big Piece” were awesome to see. They expected about 2 thousand to be at the Whistle Blowing Ceremony, but it was standing room only as far as the eye could see and it was established that over 10 thousand witnessed the first time in 87 years that the voice of Titanic was heard once again in public. They got such an awesome response from the crowd that they blew them a second time. They said that they would never be blown ever again. I felt so honored to witness history.
James Cameron is an artist. He painted a clear picture of the sinking of the Titanic. And in the process, created one of the greatest films ever made. Well done James.
I saw Titantic in theaters when I was 12. Made my mom go buy it on VHS at midnight upon its video release. I’m 38 now and still love the movie and still sob every time I watch it.
It is great seeing Cameron trying and succeeding in either proving or disproving the publics thoughts and 'what if's' Even going back and recreating the breakup and final plunge and saying which way he would have gone is great. He wants to get it right and that I respect bigtime!!! A huge kudos and warm handshake to the people portraying Jack and Rose...you both are all aces in my book!! High fives to all!!!
vertical, 20 degrees, fall back - however the break REEEALLY happened… no one denied the movie didn’t portray just the sheer magnitude of fear in these people’s hearts that they experienced at the time. really great movie. i was in middle school when it came out. went to see it 3 times myself lol
Are you naturally slow or is it willful? None of this is published, ideot, Jack didnt exist. We are hypothesizing over things that didnt happen. THE DOOR PEICE IN THAT SHAPE/SIZE DID NOT EXIST. .@@halfsourlizard9319
@maytalacedo20 Last time I checked you aren't suppose to nudge a "science test" in the direction you'd like to see it go....that's exactly what James Cameron is doing
I’m so glad that he finally put the Jack surviving to rest, we all wanted him to survive but there was just too much going around them for them to think clearly
I totally respect a hands on guy like James Cameron. 22:45 "Let's raise it up an inch." " An inch? I was thinking a foot...let's get an action shot." Then he hops in the boat to do it himself.
The other Titanic movies prior to James Cameron tend to drag on for while attempting to stay somewhat true to history, but without really developing the characters and making you feel for them. Jim shows you what a good screenwriter can do, he put a face on history by making Romeo and Juliet on the Titanic. Within that framework he made a historical, action, drama love story, horror movie. Literally a little bit for everyone
The fact is as much as we all wanted Jack to live, his death part of what made the movie so gut wrenching. The story doesn’t have a happy ending. Titanic didn’t have a happy ending. He did an awesome job making that film. We all watch the titanic about to hit the iceberg and still hope that it doesn’t.
In the Jack and Rose thing, they didn't take into consideration the fact that they were both exposed to cold temperatures/water much before they even stepped outside of the ship. By the time the ship was underwater, Jack was probably a couple steps into hypothermia already.
Between the frigid temperatures and the two hours spent running up and down the ship, the odds of either of them living long enough to be rescued in real life would have been incredibly slim.
Plus all that time they were in the cold water when she was rescuing jack from his shackles down below and later fleeing from her deranged fiancée. They never got a moment to get dry and into warm clothes and always returned to the very cold air on the decks.
I just love that he's using his knowledge and comparing all variables to show us what the real Titanic ppl went through. He's not doing it solely for the fans of the movie, he's doing it in memory of all those who lost their lives.
Just rewatched the movie again today for maybe the 20th time and still enjoyed every single minute of it. Respect to James Cameron and the whole team behind.
Jack was a very lovable guy, and he had to die, so we as the audience could feel the real scope of loss that came from the titanic tragedy. We needed that in this movie, because that's how hundreds of women felt when they lost their loved ones to the cold atlantic waters, or to the falling funnels, or even being sucked down into the bowels of the ship. People also need to stop and realize, Cameron made the scene brighter, so we could see what was happening. That night would have been total pitch black. It was a miracle to find the wooden panel to begin with. When Jack tried to climb on, it didn't hold his weight. He wasn't going to try and see how he could fit on it, he wouldn't have been able to see his own hand in front of his face. Plus the water is freezing, shutting off any logical thinking in his brain. Jack himself said, when you're in water that cold, you aren't going to be able to breathe, or think, except that it's like thousands of knives stabbing you. He couldn't put her through that. AND in a life or death situation, you're not going to have the privilege to try it over and over and over again.
Very well said. I 100% agree. It was a tragic movie so we the audience needed to feel some loss for what so many felt on that horrible night. It worked perfect with that old lady (rose) to talk about the story. Jack saved her in every way that she possibly could have been saved. And his death made her love her life that much more and she got away from those horrible and shallow people and started to live a wonderful life. She went from wanting to die to wanting to live because of Jack. It was a perfect love story.
That accurate test didn't even include the fact they'd been awake all day, they were running around the boat earlier through the water, running up and down the deck, climbing the railings, etc. They would have both been EXHAUSTED even before they got plunged in the water.
Every once in a while, something happens that brings renewed fascination with the story of the Titanic. In the 90's, it was the movie, in 2023, it was the wreck of the Titan. Fun Fact: Author Morgan Robertson wrote a book named "Futility" ("The Wreck of the Titan") about a grand ship of its time on its maiden voyage. It sailed in April in the North Atlantic, and struck an iceberg and sank. Most of the people on board died because there weren't enough lifeboats. The name of the ship? The Titan. Futility was written in 1898, 14 years before the sinking of the RMS Titanic....
I feel like a little kid again, listening to Bob and Jim talk about their "first time" seeing the ship. I love it. I'd never get in a sub unless it's with them!
It's so hard to believe it's been 25 years! I was 10 and still remember being in the theater watching it. The movie was sold out the first 2 nights at my theater. Even at that age I cried like the adults. Such a beautiful movie!
I was 35 and remember it well too. It was sold out continually for weeks and every time I'd go to see it, which was several times, I would be in a line for a theater that was already going to be sold out before I reached it. It was always at least a 5 hour wait to get into see that movie.
I LOVE that he addressed the piece of wood. OMG it's been 84 YEARS lol. Iconic. I saw this film in actual theaters when I was 13. So glad I can say that.
This was so informative to see. It answers many questions that the average viewer would have about not only the making of the movie, but also how many of the passengers, as well as how the ship would have reacted in certain situations. It’s still so hard to imagine what these passengers, and crew must have faced. Thank you for trying to answer as many questions as you did. Amazing and informative.
Thank you James Cameron for blessing our generation and the next generation to come with this pure, epic ingenuity. I couldn't get enough of your mastery and intelligence!
What I love of this documentary is that James is not afraid to say "Yeah how I showed it sink wasn't 100% right and I'm interested in seeing what was wrong after seeing the wreck enough." He then actually tests it and puts his understanding to the test with the data he got from the Navy. He's not pulling the "I made the best version of the movie." He's putting together a "I did my best with my understanding at the time and want to show what's changed with my new understanding and showed us a scenario that is very likely to be close if not dead on on how Titanic went down.
Honestly, huge respect to James Cameron for continuing to stick to the subject of Titanic after all this time. Had anyone else directed the 1997 movie, chances are they would have simply left the subject behind to focus on other projects. If not for his efforts and devotion to Titanic, there's a lot about the ship and what happened that night that we probably wouldn't know about otherwise.
I love James Cameron's dedication to knowing all he can. His knowledge and dedication to getting it right is refreshing. My issue is w having ads every 8-10 mins, if not more frequent at times.
@@chickensoupisapoopieface it wasn’t video recorded. If you have an email address I can send an audio file of what I said. Adapting it for next year to a different audience with KeyNote slides.
Like many, I’ve been watching so much stuff about the Titanic, ever since the Titan disaster. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone in my life, so obsessed with something, as James Cameron is with the Titanic.
Something I've heard bandied about regarding Titanic's lifeboats is that she wasn't expected to need to field all passengers in lifeboats at one time. There was so much faith in her unsinkability that if the ship was truly stricken, it was expected she would be afloat for hours and hours, plenty of time for help to arrive and assist. The point of the lifeboats in this theory was to _transfer passengers to another ship_ rather than to put them all in the water at once, with the expectation that Titanic herself would last long enough for multiple trips to take place.
Awesome James Cameron is willing to test his movie, almost forensically, to get the story straight without losing sight of the human element of a massive historical tragedy that was Titanic.
The fact that Rose even survived in the film would have been a miracle in real life. Unless she was in a water tight raft with some way to dry off or get warm she would have died from hypothermia also.
The Titanic museum in Pigeon Forge has 28 degree water you can stick your hand into. It was the coldest water I’ve ever touched. It’s like the cold goes straight down to your bones. I put my hand in it and I only lasted about ten seconds.
I was 12 when this movie came out, and obsessed! My bedroom walls were covered in Titanic swag! And I mean covered. James Cameron loves what he does and it shows. Watching this movie in a packed theater with my dad and friends was such an experience. Truly movie magic.
It came out in December 1997 with a soft opening, but word-of-mouth grew an organic hype train the likes of which I haven’t seen since. Titanic absolutely dominated pop culture from 1998 into the new millennium. When Britney Spears referenced the song in her 2000 hit “Oops … I Did It Again,” it still felt current, and not like a 2.5 y/o movie. Books about the Titanic were still at the front of bookstores. In 2000, checkout stands at drugstores were selling mini Titanic keychains and paperback copies of _A Night to Remember_ and the official court transcripts. Electronic stores had VHS and DVD copies right at the front of their stores. The idea of 1500 people dying in a single peacetime event was completely foreign to Americans at the time. By the summer of 2000 Harry Potter mania was in full swing with the release of _Goblet of Fire,_ and that fall the presidential election and subsequent fallout dominated headlines. Titanic mania had largely faded by then, and finally, the national shock and pain of 9/11 meant that people didn’t want to revisit a prior mass casualty event like Titanic for many years. Sorry if I typed an essay, but I thought it would interest you.
@@mikeg8276 No need to be sorry, that brought back lots of memories. I remember EVERYONE talking about it, and specifically referencing how sad the ending was. I remember hearing lots of weeps echoing throughout the very full movie theatre. In the mid-2000's the running joke amongst the younger guys was that it was a chick flick due to the love story. Glad it's shaken that reputation, movie is a masterpiece.
It’s amazing how famous this ship is, that people are still interested more than 100 years later after its sinking, Titanic has to be the most famous ship to have ever existed. I doubt that anyone on board the Titanic would have ever even thought that the ship would become very famous, other than that it was a breakthrough in technology, supposedly unsinkable, and also the fastest ship. Although the titanic did not really become so famous, until after it sank, just as some people do not become famous, until after they die.
I am planning to write my own Titanic Story about these two ten year old cousins who sailed on the Titanic and Survived the nightmare of the shipwreck with their own courage and witts and their broken friendship but with great cost obviously meaning their families from their parents and older siblings did not survive and the sinking of the Titanic brings the two cousins relationship more closer and helps them reconcile.
For me science answers questions of "How?" whereas history answers questions of "Why?" Always love these kind of documentaries that explore both. Excellent!
Which was caused to many factors from people with direct access not all believing the ship was doomed at the start of loading and the crew knew they couldn't just wait for people to decide to board if they already had access to the deck, several in 3rd class having difficulty getting outside for various reasons, the max safe capacity of the boats not being communicated, and of course there is Lightoller's side which was stuck with the "Women and children only".
I love that so much money and so many people got involved in carefully recreating this. There's a lot of value to this kind of production of just tinkering and reverse-engineering life to understand it better. I found the segment about the speed of lifeboats extremely interesting. I had no idea how difficult it was to load and lower the lifeboats. And then there's the horrifying idea of chopping myself off the ropes to send my boat freefalling into the middle of the atlantic. Well hopefully they made it into the water before cutting off, but imagine if you couldn't wait. Since in that spot it's either death from above or death from below. but you have to take your chances with below ... insanity.
The time to prepare the lifeboat is based on a best case scenario. Cameron is right to note that on a loud deck, surrounded by panicked passengers, as the ship is moving unpredictably is far from an ideal situation to launch the boat.
the film was so long at the time that it came on two VHS tapes! supposedly the entire runtime of the film is how long it took for the Titanic to sink in real life too.
@@Whygodwhy12 No they don't. The ship sinks 2 hours and 40 minutes into the movie, not that the sinking scenes are as long as the sinking itself. The sinking scenes are maybe less than an hour long, and considering how low the ship was by that point, it all takes place mostly in the last 20 minutes of the sinking.
Lets appreciate the fact that James Cameron, a movie director that only has to make films to make a name for himself, is so interested in this subject that he's passionately spending all of his time, energy, money and resources to solve a 100 year old mystery (how the stern went down), the lifeboat issue (would more lifeboats have saved more?), and the social media complaint about the raft (could Jack have fit on the raft) just for curiosity sake.
to think James Cameron started off as a truck driver who, in his free time, wrote and read about the developments of VFX in film...saw Star Wars and was so enamored that he quit his job and basically pulled himself up by the bootstraps to learn how to write, produce and direct films. he really is such a unique guy. his life story should be told as a biographical film...maybe autobiographical !
I am surprised, nobody ever made a movie about Carpathias MAD DASH ... Then taking the passengers to new york.... (turning down help from Olympic, not going to the nearest land mass, blocking reporters) its an amazing story all by itself.
In my eyes, Its less about Jack being able to fit on and survive and more about Jack not being convinced enough to do it at the cost of risking Rose’s death. It meant more to him to make sure she lived instead of a dice roll on them both living or dying.
Honestly, if he had given us a happy ending, I doubt people would still be talking about the movie almost 30 years later. The loss, grieve and the need to say goodbye that Rose had is what gave us the story to begin with.
One thing you didn’t account for in the rose and jack experiment was how cold the air was above the water….. middle of ocean with windchill, jacks temp still would’ve dropped more and would’ve probably died
The survivors of the Titanic didn’t get to live happy lives. And since many saw the film, imagine seeing Jack and Rose make it together and live happy lives together? That would be pushing a narrative that many of these survivors didn’t get to experience. They didn’t get to see their partners again. And even if they survived together their lives had completely changed. Not sure why people insist on Jack wanting to live and not realize the bigger picture of what was reality. Rose learned from Jack how to truly live and to keep going.
What I really love is that James wrote Jack to be a lovable guy so the audience also falls in with him and when he dies we as the audience feel that loss and that's how the survivors who loss someone felt. So losing Jack was a representation of all the victims that were lost.
that’s a really good way to put it
lol Jack wasnt likable at all. he lied to his friend, was a thief, the relationship with rose wasnt authentic, no indication he was even from the UK, we know that he wasnt but why is jack American to begin with?
Exactly. I feel like most people don’t realize this. Jack’s death was pivotal for the film.
Yeah, yeah, everyone loves Jack… but that’s only because they haven’t seen his shady side. Like, how every time he plays poker, he cheats. “Just a friendly game of cards” with good ol’ Jack cost my Grandfather Sven and his friend Olaf their tickets to America. They got stuck In Southampton for a year, arguably a fate worse than death.
All that talk of Titanic and you never let it in . . . NOW, YOU GET IT!!!!
Don't see many mentioning this...but I always appreciated how the movie showed the crew having to go through the labor of sorting passengers, loading lifeboats, readying equipment, dealing with doors that have warped or been broken. The actual time cost of labor and the emotional state of the crew as they have people yelling at them and screaming for their lives is rarely factored into the conversation.
It's the little attention to detail that made Titanic stand out from the other film productions in 1997-98, but also the 90s and beyond in general. Cameron even invited etiquette people on set to teach the cast how people in 1912 would eat in 1st class.
the Costa Concordia could have been the second biggest disaster if that rock did not stop it from sinking. That was a close call. The ship had flipped on is side so the lifeboats could not be launched. Many were able to swim to the shore as the shore was also very close, although some drowned too. Others panicked and jumped when the ship was going down and the force of the water pulled them down. The rest were able to walk off the side of the ship in total darkness onto boats from the Italian coast guard. The passengers were on their own as the capitan had abandoned the ship. Over 30 people did die. I know of one worker from Mumbai who had gone back to look for more passengers but did not make it. He had helped a lot of passengers giving them directions on how to get off.
the crew of the Costa Concordia also were very helpful to directing passengers off the ship even after it had flipped on its side and they had to find alternative routes. Of course the captain was a coward. They had one worker from Mumbai that had helped many to get of the ship directing them where to go. He went back into the ship to look for more passengers and lost his life. His body was the last to be discovered during recovery.
People don't realize how close that disaster came to being a major disaster with hundreds of lives lost. Some swam to the shore. Others panicked and jumped too soon and were pulled under. They literally were walking on the side of the ship to boats manned by the US coast guard and the boats of local fishermen. Hundreds almost died. Such a close call.
The one guy I give very high praise to is that stunt guy for enduring all that. Seeing him shake so bad got me worried. Yeah the stunt woman was also affected but not as bad. This was a very well made reenactment and the movie was really great too. James is a great director and producer and I admire his tenacity to get things a correct as possible.
if you also rewatch the movie, Rose was shivering and Jack really wasn't, which further supports the re-enactment where shivering would have helped you live longer.
@@davidkraft314 Jack is shivering at one point though, but later when he and Rose were already in the water for some time.
¿Hey which part of the MoviE?
@@angieroxy7550 Watch this video.
The Carpathia needs its own movie. She navigated the fields that sunk the Titanic and saved the 700+ people. The crew had tables, chairs and life boats all ready to go. And the crew worked in the darkness and so quietly they didn’t wake the rest of the passengers on board.
That would be a super unique and fascinating take on the story for sure
This is an amazing idea. We don't need remakes or retellings... let us have a different POV. We could only dream, though. It won't happen, sadly.
carpathia almost ran into an iceberg too, but luckily spotted it on time.
rostron later said how it felt like there was another hand guiding him.
Yes but not a movie a ten part HBO TV series with a big-screen budget.
I want to see a movie take where Jack is the homewrecking thief who's been plotting to steal the diamond and girl since leaving South Hampton.
Cameron is correct. Based on Jack’s character, he would’ve definitely sacrificed his life to make sure Rose lived. In that moment, his priority was Rose. He also represents all the passengers who sacrificed their lives to help their loved ones get on the boat and have a chance to live. That’s the point of his character. He’s always meant to die. He represents all the people that were lost in that tragedy.
Well said
I would like to think that I would sacrifice myself for the woman I love more than anything, my beautiful beloved Alina.
Exactly. In real life Astor really put his wife on the boat. He really wanted to make sure she was okay even if it was a drill. Flat out. Him and their dog died.
Another thing they didn't take into account was not only was the water warmer in this experiment, but the air temp was way warmer. So yeah his temps were pretty good when he kept his torso above water, but only because the air in that room was infinitely warmer than where the titanic sunk
It was freezing cold rose should have died of hypothermia long before they found her but she got lucky
There is something about watching people brainstorm together. Truly magical.
Creative collaboration 🔥...I love it
Coming from a career engineer…this special should be shown in middle and high school science and engineering classes. This is how you experiment, test, etc. - the scientific method is in full display here. A LOT of prep, model, test, revise, re-test, etc. and then you STILL have variables to account for. Sometimes what you get is still a best guess but it’s MUCH better than just blindly guessing!!!
Indeed. Pure science.
Credit to Cameron's professionality.
Agreed. It's not cheap, either.. to be able to do this, to experiment.
Were there real jack and rose in real titanic and now they are acting as them or is just a movie?
I love how James Cameron spent so much time proving that he was right about how he portrayed the ship sinking in the movie... I can appreciate that level of commitment.
Well he knows its not exactly how it sank in the movie
He has always tried to figure out everything the titanic offers as far as stories go. It’s a fascinating thing to watch him talk about ANYTHING related to the ship. He wants the knowledge about the sinking and how the night went, almost like he wants the stories that can’t be told but he wants to know them.
The fact that people are still interested 25 years later is amazing. And that people still want to see Jack surviving. I’m grateful that I got to go see this movie when it came out in theaters in the late 90s. Just absolutely fascinating that people are still interested. And, like other comments have said, this really did happen to real people.
Just as many are just as sick of it too. Just saying. It's a great movie, but it's getting old
People are so interested they die trying to see it
@@EdsterIIIExactly.
The TITANIC sank in 1912, thats over 100 YEARS later
The Titan implosion may deserve a movie of its own.
I have so much respect for James. He isn't just a filmmaker, that's honestly his hobby at this point. His real passion is science and exploration. And he uses his love of nature and science to enhance his filmmaking, and he uses his filmmaking to further his passion. It's a gorgeous relationship really when you think about it.
And _Titanic_ is a film that holds up as well as it does, because of the sheer amount of passion put into it, not just on a story telling level, but a technological level as well. The film holds up, because you can believe the ship is there. Unlike with CGI where your mind is constantly aware that what you are looking at isn't really there.
You do realize he used a lot of CG.
@KaraOfTheSea he used SOME CGI. Cameron legit built to near scale models of the ship. For what he couldn't build he created via cgi. He, along with Christopher Nolan, knows how to blend the two masterfully
@AceCoordinatorRibotto 👍. It was pretty good for the time. Rewatching it now in HD, you can reeeally notice the CGI. But when it was still SD, it was really seamless. It is also crazy that the flooding of the sets were all practical effects.
@KaraOfTheSea I dunno I'm still pretty impressed, and it is hard to tell the cgi unless you REALLY know what to look for. Like i didn't even know entire sections of the ship could be removed until i saw a video from Oceanliner Designs. To me, that's part of why this film holds up so well.
@AceCoordinatorRibotto Oh! Don't get me wrong it is still really impressive! The only time it is distractingly noticeable is when the ship is leaving the dock. (The people look goofy, but the background still looks really pretty)
One thing the Jack and Rose experiments did not take into account is the fact that it was pitch dark out side, unlike the well-lit room where the experiment was conducted. The darkness would have made it much more difficult for them to coordinate on any kind of strategy to keep both of them afloat on the door.
I agree. And I would say panic, too. The experiment's environment was relaxed compared to what Jack & Rose went through the entire time the ship sank.
And what was the AIR temperature in the test room VS the night she sank. Cold air and evaporation would be much worse to survive.
Excuse! Excuse! From people saying this cause they want Jack to survive so badly.
Like James said their only mistake in the movie was not making that door smaller in order for people to see that Jack must die.
Exactly, air temperature. I'm surprised they didn't mention it here. If the water was 28 degrees fahrenheit, the air was either around the same or, more likely, colder, out there in the middle of the arctic, Atlantic Ocean. Plus, at the point of the ship having gone down for good, both of em had been in wet clothes, in and out of water for about 2 hours. It's a miracle Rose made it. Jack wouldn't have survived.
@@JP-rf7px My thoughts as well, no mention of air temp, or wind chill... as sad as it is jack would perish even with this best case test
A round of applause for these stunt actors who actually gave it their all and didn’t just “do the motions” they ACTED the characters and they did a great job! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This is tough life. Massive respect for the stunts honestly
they are good looking enough to be actors themselves.
I just loved that fact that he actually cared if his representation was as accurate as it gets.
I would probably believe him that if he somehow gets proven wrong he would probably remaster the movie and add new scenes just to make them accurate
Of course! It fascinates Cameron this whole discussion. This is also why he left the ending open, rather than make a solid conclusion.
I like that he considers their characters in this experiment. It can’t be ignored. The entire movie is based around their relationship. Jack attempted once to get on the door and it failed. He loves Rose enough that he’s willing to sacrifice his life to keep it stable for her. Could he have survived? Yes, but it’s not as simple as a lot of people who had an issue with this scene make it seem as this experiment shows. The door being big enough was more of an oversight than jack’s death being a contrivance for the plot. Jack’s death makes sense in story and statistically.
26:30 why couldnt they have gotten Leo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet back for this documentary for the "floating door" segment, and then just made sure they had fitness coaches weeks before to get them to their 1996-era figures?
@@Defender78You say that like it’s easy. You have to remember that they are 25 years older than they were when they filmed the movie. It was probably much easier to get body doubles then have Leo and Kate morph their bodies back 25 or so years.
That, the fact that bodies react differently at a different age and you have to consider their real-life relationship too. You see how hard it was for the two amazing stuntmen here in this video to go through this experiment, there is a zero chance that Kate or Leo would've made it through this experiment, essentially jeopardizing each other's lives for science. Just my thoughts, because I saw how clingy they are about each other (in a good way).
The movie created a human story that we could all respond to that put the tragedy of the Titanic into a true perspective. The desire to save Jack is reflecting the powerful desire we all have to save them all.
100 percent. Well said.
Yes, exactly. This is something that so many people don’t understand. Of course Jack didn’t survive, that would’ve given a movie about a real life tragedy a happy ending. The movie makes it so we get attached to the characters and lose one just like how in real life people lost their loved ones. It put into perspective what it was like losing someone on that ship
That's such an obvious connection and yet it's one I never made. Maybe it's because of my emotional attachment to the film that I never stopped to try to look any deeper, but also maybe it speaks to the impact the film has in its realism and the connection it's able to create between the audience and the characters. The idea that the obsession with the door comes from wanting to undo the trauma experienced from that scene makes a lot of sense. I feel like because we as the audience know it's a real event, and because the film was excecuted so authentically, that unlike other films that have traumatic events but are completely fictional, Titanic is experienced in a much more vivid way. We truly do experience a real iota of what it was like to live that horrible event, and to lose someone in it, and it's impactful enough that Jack's death has stuck with us for 25 years.
Exactly. People can argue and and down the wall about the raft but at the end of the day if Jack lived and it was a happy ending it would’ve been a disservice to how tragic the event actually was for real people who lost loved ones
Yup
Got to hand it to James Cameron for his dedication to his craft, but more importantly, the lengths he has been willing to go over the years to try & get everything right when it comes to Titanic. Yes he wanted to make an entertaining movie & he certainly accomplished that, but this goes way beyond just making a great film, it's a passion project for James that started way before one frame of film was shot, & continues all these years later. Awesome!
I've become re-obsessed with my love of Titanic history after the OceanGate submersible tragedy. Rewatched Titanic (my favorite movie) and realized for the first time that the creation of the movie truly was making history, as there was no other depiction of what likely happened. And never realizing exactly how much Cameron put into discovering this history, virtually screenwriting history in the making through a love of physics and science. Cameron is a Masterpiece--making mastermind on all levels.
I’ll always have a massive respect for Cameron with this film. I could care less about Jack and Rose’s story, but how accurately he portrayed Titanic and the fact that he went back to see what he got wrong made my respect for him grow even more. Not a lot of film makers do that.
Thank you. The Jack & Rose story was a pointless story that had NO BEARING on the actual true story. The thousands of REAL people who died, froze, drowned, or were thrown around the ship like a rag doll. He showed the story albeit with the goofy and corny love story added, but aside from that he did do a spectacular job on this film.
I completely agree!! I wish there was a way to just get the Jack and Rose parts out of the film and just have the Titanic parts in it!
That Takes All The Romance Out Of It! Without Jack And Rose The Movie Would Be Forgotten! Everyone Remembers The Titanic Film For It's Iconic " I'm Flying" Scene.
@@Tremonti4ever but plenty of those films already exist: they're documentaries. This is just a different type of film, and that's ok.
The love story was bs and pointless. It should have been about a normal survivor story. Maybe a man’s, since it would be harder for them to survive.
What I appreciate about him the most is I think he knows his genius, but explains it on paper, visually, didactically so everyone who learns differently can understand.
That is a true leader and genius
After watching this I am amazed that they were able to save the number of people they did. The real-life situation must have been terrifying for everyone.
The scariest part is unlike the movie, it was a moonless night with nothing but the stars to light the water. Once the lights went out it was basically pitch black. Nothing but creaks and screams to be heard.
The people on the boats go from hearing screams and splashing to an hour later not hearing any noise because everyone was either dead or dying and couldn’t move from being frozen and no blood circulation to the vital organs. The lifeboats waited too long to go back, it took them almost 2 hours to float back and look for survivors.
More could’ve been saved. Hundreds more actually. There was so much room left on those lifeboats.
@@hildagranados5623FAAAAAACTS
@@hildagranados5623 This is true, but we have to remember that we're looking back on this disaster with full hindsight, and as the saying goes, hindsight really is 20/20. But before the Titanic disaster, there had never been a shipwreck of this magnitude, with these conditions, playing out just beyond the threshold of survivability. Plus, there was a real concern about the weight of the lifeboats, whether or not they could hold all of the weight. With every factor that we know now, versus what they didn't know back then, Monday morning quarterbacking things isn't realistic, in this case. Feasible? Yes, but again, the knowledge of the crew is limited to 1912 standards, not 2023 standards.
@@hildagranados5623 I agree. What happened with the Titanic never should have happened. So many human errors, one after another, that took so many lives. From trying to make the ship go faster when it was brand new to not filling those boats up better. It was a tragedy that easily would have been avoided if people were not in it for the money and the headlines. Which of course they got their headlines. Just not the one that they wanted.
James Cameron and Paul McCartney have the same energy. Both amazing story tellers with a passion for life and the human experience.
This movie is absolute perfection in ever form and nothing less.. The story, the historical accuracy [with everything we knew at the time], the production, the science, the acting, the music/soundtrack, even the deleted scenes [everything Cameron does makes some sort of sense]. He did the story of Titanic SO much justice while still invoking the same emotions that were felt over 100 years ago and still to this very say thru simple visuals or just the music itself. There's not ONE component of this masterful piece of art that is wrong, which makes me love it all the more. The perfection in itself and the power of Titanic is... absolutely awe inspiring.
James Cameron is awesome. You can tell he puts his heart and soul into his theories and the Titanic itself
Biggest revelation was how much Rose’s coat helped her even when it was soaked. They always say that wool insulates when wet, and cotton doesn’t. So I guess Cal helped to save her when he PUT THE COAT ON HER
I'm amazed that James Cameron went to so much trouble to debunk these myths about his movie. It goes to show how passionate he is.
c'est , pour moi , avec Spielberg et Kubrick, le plus grand génie de l'histoire du cinéma
I love James Cameron!! ❤️
What's hilarious is that his final response to the debate of whether Jack could have survived or not is basically to say, "even if he could have lived, I should have made the raft smaller." 🤣🤣 So, he's basically telling the audience that your hearts were gonna break, no matter what. Lol
I enjoyed his response to be honest, he was entirely determined on the story and committed to the point he intended to make with the story he told. And I can understand that.
People don't take into account the fact that there were people who got completely out of the water that night but because they were already soaked in freezing cold water and they couldn't change clothes or dry off or warm up, they still succumbed to hypothermia. Even if Jack had gotten completely out of the water it wouldn't have guaranteed his survival, it would have increased his chances of survival to maybe 50%.
Right, and it was a good way to end the movie considering it’s based on a real life tragedy. Giving it a happy ending wouldn’t have made much sense. The movie allows us to get attached to characters and lose one just like how people lost their loved ones in real life. It made it so much more emotional because it put it all into perspective
What James Cameron did is put everybody who was watching the film towards that ending, in the mindset of every husband and wife who were on that ship. You have to remember that a lot of the husbands purposely and willingly stayed on the ship as their wives and children were loaded aboard the life rafts. Knowing that they were going to die, but that their deaths would allow more women and children to survive. A definite sign of the times, when marriage meant till death, do we part.
So Jack and Rose were simply meant as symbols for the husbands and wives, who mostly went through the same thing. Maybe in different ways, but I’m sure there were many that very closely resembled what the movie showed. Which would’ve been even more harrowing, with everybody else swimming around you trying to survive. Not only the motion of the waves that they were creating, but I’m sure many would have tried to get on anything they could have to get out of that water. Regardless, if somebody else was on it or not. Just due to the sheer pain they must’ve been in being in that water.
As Mr. Cameron said… Unless Jack would have understood, not only physics, but hyperthermia… There would’ve been no way for him to know how to keep them both alive. Especially in the circumstances surrounding them, and the possibility of somebody else, swimming up and knocking her off. So the only way he could assure her survival was to make sure that he stayed where he was, and balanced the board and made sure nobody else got to her.
Definitely a brilliant summation of the entirety of everybody on the ship. Displayed brilliantly in the acting.
@@briellejade._ agreed!
Also even if Jack or Rose found a lifeboat, doesn't mean the others would have picked them up.
Right but it is fascinating that because Rose’s jacket was made of Wool, it still kept her from losing body heat even when soaked
Whoever played jack and rose in this experiment did incredible.
I reckon. I really felt for that poor young guy. He didn't want to let anyone down....
they should be chosen for a new remake.
Thank you. I had a hard time recovering 😂. No seriously they did a great job.
He’s no Leo and she’s no Kate 😂
@@Dan-xx5jqTitanic 2 is coming out. Kate Winslet is in it but now she’s an adult. Like in her 40’s and she buys a ticket to sail on Titanic 2.
He made the greatest movie ever made, and the popularity was so insane, so much more than anything that exists today, that it obscured how good it actually was. And the fascination with the floating door is people trying to cope with the trauma of that ending and that scene, to try to undo it psychologically
It's why I always laugh when people talk about how the "Avatar" movies are superior to "Titanic". Whenever people talk about "Avatar", it's always about the box office and nothing more. When it comes to "Titanic", it's a quarter century later and people STILL won't shut up about whether they could have fit on the board to the point that Cameron showed how impossible it was, even with glimmers of hope.
@@AngelofMusic04 It’s also possible to love both without denigrating the other.
@@AngelofMusic04 T2 is my favorite by Cameron
Mejor pelicula de Todo el tiempo!!
still never seen ts
Some actual survivors of the Titanic were saved from freezing cold water. Yet, even though they could get in the lifeboats from other passengers, their core temperature was seriously affected, leading to untimely deaths many months or years after the sinking. For example, First-class passenger Colonel Archibald Gracie wrote a book about his experience on the Titanic and what he witnessed during and after the sinking. About six months after the horrible sinking and after writing his book, he died from the long-term effects of hypothermia. Therefore, Rose would still lose Jack if they could get rescued from a lifeboat on the RMS Carpathia to New York City together.
if you are not in a super criticial state where you wont really recover then hypothermia usually has no long lasting effects (maybe some lose fingers). the example you gave is a diabetic that also had some injuries and not really recovered from the situation.
Many others in this situation, and suffering frost bite lived well into old age.
This is very entertaining. I have always been fascinated with Titanic. I had a once-in-a-lifetime experience involving that ship. A set of Titanic’s Whistles were recovered from the ocean floor in 1993. Some friends gave us tickets to the Titanic Exhibit back in February 1999 in St. Paul, Minnesota. All the artifacts and the “Big Piece” were awesome to see. They expected about 2 thousand to be at the Whistle Blowing Ceremony, but it was standing room only as far as the eye could see and it was established that over 10 thousand witnessed the first time in 87 years that the voice of Titanic was heard once again in public. They got such an awesome response from the crowd that they blew them a second time. They said that they would never be blown ever again. I felt so honored to witness history.
That is extraordinary, thank you for sharing. I can only imagine what an incredible and amazing experience that must've been! :D
James Cameron is an artist. He painted a clear picture of the sinking of the Titanic. And in the process, created one of the greatest films ever made. Well done James.
I saw Titantic in theaters when I was 12. Made my mom go buy it on VHS at midnight upon its video release. I’m 38 now and still love the movie and still sob every time I watch it.
It is great seeing Cameron trying and succeeding in either proving or disproving the publics thoughts and 'what if's' Even going back and recreating the breakup and final plunge and saying which way he would have gone is great. He wants to get it right and that I respect bigtime!!! A huge kudos and warm handshake to the people portraying Jack and Rose...you both are all aces in my book!! High fives to all!!!
vertical, 20 degrees, fall back - however the break REEEALLY happened… no one denied the movie didn’t portray just the sheer magnitude of fear in these people’s hearts that they experienced at the time.
really great movie. i was in middle school when it came out. went to see it 3 times myself lol
MythBusters tried to do him wrong, but he proves them wrong by actually did a science test to make his point clear. I give him an applause for this.
What journal are the results published in?
Are you naturally slow or is it willful? None of this is published, ideot, Jack didnt exist. We are hypothesizing over things that didnt happen. THE DOOR PEICE IN THAT SHAPE/SIZE DID NOT EXIST. .@@halfsourlizard9319
@maytalacedo20 Last time I checked you aren't suppose to nudge a "science test" in the direction you'd like to see it go....that's exactly what James Cameron is doing
How did they "do him wrong"? They ran the test and found out that it was plausible Jack could have lived. It's that simple.
@@WrongThink_ put your money where your mouth is and try it yourself.
Considering how in real life it was pitch black it would be a miracle if they found eachother let alone found a raft and survived.
Hats off to the test subjects and there lower digestive track thermal tracker. Hope they were paid well.
And they both fell in love after their shared ordeal and lived happily ever after. He still died first tho.
Who’s here after those people visiting the titanic in a submarine went missing?
Me lol
Me too 😢
🥲🥲 meee
They didn’t go missing, they died from implosion 90 minutes after being in the water
It popped up in my feed lol
41:25 "Based on what I know today, I would have made the raft smaller (laugh) so there's no doubt"😂😂😂
You really are determined to kill Jack huh
😂
LOL
I’m so glad that he finally put the Jack surviving to rest, we all wanted him to survive but there was just too much going around them for them to think clearly
"You're gonna die an old lady warm in bed" 😥😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I cry Everytime i watch that movie! Such a good film!
I totally respect a hands on guy like James Cameron. 22:45 "Let's raise it up an inch." " An inch? I was thinking a foot...let's get an action shot." Then he hops in the boat to do it himself.
This is just awesome. I'm so happy Cameron took the time out of his busy schedule to even do this.
I agree . James got it right with Jack dying in the end saving her, a sad ending in a movie leaves you with a More deep feeling than a happy ending.
23:04 "Whatever happens, Jim, we'll get it on film" Best line in this documentary.
James' reply tho 😭😭
The other Titanic movies prior to James Cameron tend to drag on for while attempting to stay somewhat true to history, but without really developing the characters and making you feel for them. Jim shows you what a good screenwriter can do, he put a face on history by making Romeo and Juliet on the Titanic. Within that framework he made a historical, action, drama love story, horror movie. Literally a little bit for everyone
The fact is as much as we all wanted Jack to live, his death part of what made the movie so gut wrenching. The story doesn’t have a happy ending. Titanic didn’t have a happy ending. He did an awesome job making that film. We all watch the titanic about to hit the iceberg and still hope that it doesn’t.
In the Jack and Rose thing, they didn't take into consideration the fact that they were both exposed to cold temperatures/water much before they even stepped outside of the ship. By the time the ship was underwater, Jack was probably a couple steps into hypothermia already.
Between the frigid temperatures and the two hours spent running up and down the ship, the odds of either of them living long enough to be rescued in real life would have been incredibly slim.
Plus all that time they were in the cold water when she was rescuing jack from his shackles down below and later fleeing from her deranged fiancée. They never got a moment to get dry and into warm clothes and always returned to the very cold air on the decks.
I just love that he's using his knowledge and comparing all variables to show us what the real Titanic ppl went through. He's not doing it solely for the fans of the movie, he's doing it in memory of all those who lost their lives.
Just rewatched the movie again today for maybe the 20th time and still enjoyed every single minute of it. Respect to James Cameron and the whole team behind.
Jack was a very lovable guy, and he had to die, so we as the audience could feel the real scope of loss that came from the titanic tragedy. We needed that in this movie, because that's how hundreds of women felt when they lost their loved ones to the cold atlantic waters, or to the falling funnels, or even being sucked down into the bowels of the ship.
People also need to stop and realize, Cameron made the scene brighter, so we could see what was happening. That night would have been total pitch black. It was a miracle to find the wooden panel to begin with. When Jack tried to climb on, it didn't hold his weight. He wasn't going to try and see how he could fit on it, he wouldn't have been able to see his own hand in front of his face. Plus the water is freezing, shutting off any logical thinking in his brain. Jack himself said, when you're in water that cold, you aren't going to be able to breathe, or think, except that it's like thousands of knives stabbing you. He couldn't put her through that. AND in a life or death situation, you're not going to have the privilege to try it over and over and over again.
Very well said. I 100% agree. It was a tragic movie so we the audience needed to feel some loss for what so many felt on that horrible night. It worked perfect with that old lady (rose) to talk about the story. Jack saved her in every way that she possibly could have been saved. And his death made her love her life that much more and she got away from those horrible and shallow people and started to live a wonderful life. She went from wanting to die to wanting to live because of Jack. It was a perfect love story.
Watched the movie several times, and still to this moment, it is hard to process everything, the sadness and the tragic as a whole.
Mr. Cameron, you have a fan. You are such a special person.
And all of you together it's a feast for the eyes. Like a bunch of bright-eyed kids.
That accurate test didn't even include the fact they'd been awake all day, they were running around the boat earlier through the water, running up and down the deck, climbing the railings, etc. They would have both been EXHAUSTED even before they got plunged in the water.
Every once in a while, something happens that brings renewed fascination with the story of the Titanic. In the 90's, it was the movie, in 2023, it was the wreck of the Titan.
Fun Fact: Author Morgan Robertson wrote a book named "Futility" ("The Wreck of the Titan") about a grand ship of its time on its maiden voyage. It sailed in April in the North Atlantic, and struck an iceberg and sank. Most of the people on board died because there weren't enough lifeboats. The name of the ship? The Titan.
Futility was written in 1898, 14 years before the sinking of the RMS Titanic....
I feel like a little kid again, listening to Bob and Jim talk about their "first time" seeing the ship. I love it. I'd never get in a sub unless it's with them!
Absolutely !!!!
It's so hard to believe it's been 25 years! I was 10 and still remember being in the theater watching it. The movie was sold out the first 2 nights at my theater. Even at that age I cried like the adults. Such a beautiful movie!
Same! 😊
I was 15 in 1997 and can't believe it's been 25 years.Still One of my favorite movies. James Cameron is a genius!!!
@@amandareynolds2781we are the same age!!
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I was 35 and remember it well too. It was sold out continually for weeks and every time I'd go to see it, which was several times, I would be in a line for a theater that was already going to be sold out before I reached it. It was always at least a 5 hour wait to get into see that movie.
Saw this so many times in theaters when it first came out. The experiments about Jack surviving were quite interesting.
I LOVE that he addressed the piece of wood. OMG it's been 84 YEARS lol. Iconic. I saw this film in actual theaters when I was 13. So glad I can say that.
Ill always be fascinated with titanic, such a tragic event. But mad respect for James Cameron for the 95% accuracy of this movie.
This was so informative to see. It answers many questions that the average viewer would have about not only the making of the movie, but also how many of the passengers, as well as how the ship would have reacted in certain situations. It’s still so hard to imagine what these passengers, and crew must have faced. Thank you for trying to answer as many questions as you did. Amazing and informative.
Thank you James Cameron for blessing our generation and the next generation to come with this pure, epic ingenuity. I couldn't get enough of your mastery and intelligence!
What I love of this documentary is that James is not afraid to say "Yeah how I showed it sink wasn't 100% right and I'm interested in seeing what was wrong after seeing the wreck enough." He then actually tests it and puts his understanding to the test with the data he got from the Navy. He's not pulling the "I made the best version of the movie." He's putting together a "I did my best with my understanding at the time and want to show what's changed with my new understanding and showed us a scenario that is very likely to be close if not dead on on how Titanic went down.
Honestly, huge respect to James Cameron for continuing to stick to the subject of Titanic after all this time. Had anyone else directed the 1997 movie, chances are they would have simply left the subject behind to focus on other projects.
If not for his efforts and devotion to Titanic, there's a lot about the ship and what happened that night that we probably wouldn't know about otherwise.
I love James Cameron's dedication to knowing all he can. His knowledge and dedication to getting it right is refreshing.
My issue is w having ads every 8-10 mins, if not more frequent at times.
Never realized how brilliant James truly is! His compassion and attention to detail is phenomenal
Thank you National Geographic! I’m writing a sermon about the Titanic for April 14th…the 111th year anniversary of the sinking. This is helpful!
@@chickensoupisapoopieface it wasn’t video recorded. If you have an email address I can send an audio file of what I said. Adapting it for next year to a different audience with KeyNote slides.
Like many, I’ve been watching so much stuff about the Titanic, ever since the Titan disaster. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone in my life, so obsessed with something, as James Cameron is with the Titanic.
Something I've heard bandied about regarding Titanic's lifeboats is that she wasn't expected to need to field all passengers in lifeboats at one time. There was so much faith in her unsinkability that if the ship was truly stricken, it was expected she would be afloat for hours and hours, plenty of time for help to arrive and assist.
The point of the lifeboats in this theory was to _transfer passengers to another ship_ rather than to put them all in the water at once, with the expectation that Titanic herself would last long enough for multiple trips to take place.
Awesome James Cameron is willing to test his movie, almost forensically, to get the story straight without losing sight of the human element of a massive historical tragedy that was Titanic.
Can we just appreciate James for even making an effort and testing if Jack can be saved❤ this was just a tragedy😢
The fact that Rose even survived in the film would have been a miracle in real life. Unless she was in a water tight raft with some way to dry off or get warm she would have died from hypothermia also.
People also don’t realize the shock of going into 28 degree water is like having 1000 little knives simultaneously hit you. Instantly.
You'd get the biggest shot of adrenaline you'd ever have.
And knock the wind out of you
The Titanic museum in Pigeon Forge has 28 degree water you can stick your hand into. It was the coldest water I’ve ever touched. It’s like the cold goes straight down to your bones. I put my hand in it and I only lasted about ten seconds.
..and the darkness...
That's what Lightoller said
I was 12 when this movie came out, and obsessed! My bedroom walls were covered in Titanic swag! And I mean covered. James Cameron loves what he does and it shows. Watching this movie in a packed theater with my dad and friends was such an experience. Truly movie magic.
I FEEL CARPATHIA DESERVES IT'S OWN MOVIE LIKE NAVIGATING THE PATHWAYS THAT TOOK TITANIC DOWN AND ALL THE RUSH AND CHAOS TO JUST GET ONBOARD ❤
I wasn’t born till 4 years after Titanic came out, I wish I could’ve been there to see all the incredible hype it created.
It came out in December 1997 with a soft opening, but word-of-mouth grew an organic hype train the likes of which I haven’t seen since. Titanic absolutely dominated pop culture from 1998 into the new millennium. When Britney Spears referenced the song in her 2000 hit “Oops … I Did It Again,” it still felt current, and not like a 2.5 y/o movie. Books about the Titanic were still at the front of bookstores. In 2000, checkout stands at drugstores were selling mini Titanic keychains and paperback copies of _A Night to Remember_ and the official court transcripts. Electronic stores had VHS and DVD copies right at the front of their stores. The idea of 1500 people dying in a single peacetime event was completely foreign to Americans at the time. By the summer of 2000 Harry Potter mania was in full swing with the release of _Goblet of Fire,_ and that fall the presidential election and subsequent fallout dominated headlines. Titanic mania had largely faded by then, and finally, the national shock and pain of 9/11 meant that people didn’t want to revisit a prior mass casualty event like Titanic for many years.
Sorry if I typed an essay, but I thought it would interest you.
@@mikeg8276 No need to be sorry, that brought back lots of memories. I remember EVERYONE talking about it, and specifically referencing how sad the ending was. I remember hearing lots of weeps echoing throughout the very full movie theatre. In the mid-2000's the running joke amongst the younger guys was that it was a chick flick due to the love story. Glad it's shaken that reputation, movie is a masterpiece.
@@mikeg8276 No sir, thank you for this essay.
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@CyraxxFriendsArchive And the movie was so long it had to come on 2 cassettes.
The World: Waiting for Avatar 3
James Cameron: Still figuring out how the Titanic sank
It’s amazing how famous this ship is, that people are still interested more than 100 years later after its sinking, Titanic has to be the most famous ship to have ever existed. I doubt that anyone on board the Titanic would have ever even thought that the ship would become very famous, other than that it was a breakthrough in technology, supposedly unsinkable, and also the fastest ship. Although the titanic did not really become so famous, until after it sank, just as some people do not become famous, until after they die.
These poor people doing the Rose and Jack freezing experiments. No way!!
James Cameron really is a great guy who cares so much about this ship. I am so glad he is not like all the other directors.
I am planning to write my own Titanic Story about these two ten year old cousins who sailed on the Titanic and Survived the nightmare of the shipwreck with their own courage and witts and their broken friendship but with great cost obviously meaning their families from their parents and older siblings did not survive and the sinking of the Titanic brings the two cousins relationship more closer and helps them reconcile.
For me science answers questions of "How?" whereas history answers questions of "Why?" Always love these kind of documentaries that explore both. Excellent!
It really wasn't a matter of how many life boats, but the fact that some were half empty when they arrived at the Carpathia.
Yes! This should have highlight how many more people would have lived if the lifeboats had a been full or at least close to it!
Which was caused to many factors from people with direct access not all believing the ship was doomed at the start of loading and the crew knew they couldn't just wait for people to decide to board if they already had access to the deck, several in 3rd class having difficulty getting outside for various reasons, the max safe capacity of the boats not being communicated, and of course there is Lightoller's side which was stuck with the "Women and children only".
I love that so much money and so many people got involved in carefully recreating this. There's a lot of value to this kind of production of just tinkering and reverse-engineering life to understand it better. I found the segment about the speed of lifeboats extremely interesting. I had no idea how difficult it was to load and lower the lifeboats. And then there's the horrifying idea of chopping myself off the ropes to send my boat freefalling into the middle of the atlantic. Well hopefully they made it into the water before cutting off, but imagine if you couldn't wait. Since in that spot it's either death from above or death from below. but you have to take your chances with below ... insanity.
The time to prepare the lifeboat is based on a best case scenario. Cameron is right to note that on a loud deck, surrounded by panicked passengers, as the ship is moving unpredictably is far from an ideal situation to launch the boat.
I’m glad someone went down and filmed this, thank you! I’d rather see it this way, but someone had to be the pioneer and adventurer, not me. RIP ❤
the film was so long at the time that it came on two VHS tapes! supposedly the entire runtime of the film is how long it took for the Titanic to sink in real life too.
correction, the scenes of the ship sinking in the movie is the same time the ship took to sink
Neither of those is correct. Titanic took 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink. The movie is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.
@@jake3988 no. the sinking scenes actually run the length of time of the sinking
@@Whygodwhy12 No they don't. The ship sinks 2 hours and 40 minutes into the movie, not that the sinking scenes are as long as the sinking itself. The sinking scenes are maybe less than an hour long, and considering how low the ship was by that point, it all takes place mostly in the last 20 minutes of the sinking.
The running time of Rose telling her story is 2 hours and 40 minutes; the same amount of time the actual Titanic took to sink
The ending where she dreams of all the main characters makes me always cry 😢
His curiosity is admirable and I love he can do it. ❤
Those two stunt rose and jack need honestly so much praise, they had to have 3 thermometers stuck down their noses into their stomachs!
The tragic of the missing submarine.
Got me interested in Titanic again.
Me too 😢
Lets appreciate the fact that James Cameron, a movie director that only has to make films to make a name for himself, is so interested in this subject that he's passionately spending all of his time, energy, money and resources to solve a 100 year old mystery (how the stern went down), the lifeboat issue (would more lifeboats have saved more?), and the social media complaint about the raft (could Jack have fit on the raft) just for curiosity sake.
to think James Cameron started off as a truck driver who, in his free time, wrote and read about the developments of VFX in film...saw Star Wars and was so enamored that he quit his job and basically pulled himself up by the bootstraps to learn how to write, produce and direct films. he really is such a unique guy. his life story should be told as a biographical film...maybe autobiographical !
I am surprised, nobody ever made a movie about Carpathias MAD DASH ... Then taking the passengers to new york.... (turning down help from Olympic, not going to the nearest land mass, blocking reporters) its an amazing story all by itself.
In my eyes, Its less about Jack being able to fit on and survive and more about Jack not being convinced enough to do it at the cost of risking Rose’s death. It meant more to him to make sure she lived instead of a dice roll on them both living or dying.
Honestly, if he had given us a happy ending, I doubt people would still be talking about the movie almost 30 years later.
The loss, grieve and the need to say goodbye that Rose had is what gave us the story to begin with.
One thing you didn’t account for in the rose and jack experiment was how cold the air was above the water….. middle of ocean with windchill, jacks temp still would’ve dropped more and would’ve probably died
0:25 plugging in these photos of how Jack could’ve fit, killed me
The survivors of the Titanic didn’t get to live happy lives. And since many saw the film, imagine seeing Jack and Rose make it together and live happy lives together? That would be pushing a narrative that many of these survivors didn’t get to experience. They didn’t get to see their partners again. And even if they survived together their lives had completely changed. Not sure why people insist on Jack wanting to live and not realize the bigger picture of what was reality. Rose learned from Jack how to truly live and to keep going.