FYI: the 2016 OMEGA Ploprof reissue is 1200M WR and has not only a screw case-back, but also has a sapphire exhibition back, and yet it is still double the WR of the original 600M Monobloc. It also uses the same crown guard system as seen on the Steeldive homage. As for the original 600M version, I had one for about 16 years. It was the most unreliable watch I have ever owned! It never leaked but it wore out(!) 3 movements in 16 years; all the money was in the case, the movement inside the ridiculously thick case was a very small calibre, low-end ETA that did not hack and was near impossible to regulate. Accuracy was crap too, +/-2 MINUTES per day! Lastly, the red button; unlike the 2016 reissue and all homages, this was PLASTIC with a plastic shaft below it. The spring was clipped into a groove in the shaft and eventually wore through the shaft, resulting in the red button spontaneously ejecting itself from the watch! By the time I got rid of it, it was on its 5th button! BTW, I bought mine in 1979 from a local jewellery chain with an Omega franchise as NOS. They had not been able to sell it in 8 years in the window, so they "clearanced" it for AUD $250! 16 years later, I sold it for AUD $2,000 in 1995. Good riddance! I think I just about broke even, considering the money spent on service whilst I owned it. The Steeldive homage may not be a Co-Axial Chronometer like the 2016 Ploprof, but it sure as hell will be better made, more accurate and a whole galaxy more reliable than the original 600 Monobloc!..... "Legends not supported by fact are just fairy tales."
Really? A PloProf with an ETA movement? WOW, you got a really bad copy/fake, specially with an ETA movement (?) when Omega NEVER used ETA movements during the 1970s!!!!. Their movement supplier was Lemania. I have never personally heard from my fellow watchmakers that the original PloProf had ETA movements coz ETA never supplied mechanical/automatic movements to Omega and Tissot until the late 1980s that later became the SWATCH Group in the 1990s. ETA was a supplier to Eterna Watches until the mid-1970s. Are you sure you bought it as NOS from a dealership? sorry to say but yours look like you got a Franken-watch- a Watch with a Chinese made case and an adapted non-original ETA movement= Fake. The PloProf case interior could only accommodate a slim movement, and ETA did not have a slim movement until the ETA 2892 of 1972, and that movement was a very expensive top of the line movement at the time. The Ploprof was normally fit with Lemania 10xx hacking movements like a 1002, 1005, 1010, or 1020, and the 1002 was famous coz it had a sample that tested at +/- 0.0 seconds in all 5 positions and 3 Temps in the Time Observatories, and those movements were slim hacking movements and were beating at 28800 vph!!!! And that thing about the plastic red button, it was not any plastic, but strong nylon and the tube was in metal with a very strong Stainless Steel spring, so it could not had eroded that easy, mine never did. The PloProf was rated at 600m but tested to 1000m with no problems. And my PloProf had the Lemania 1002 that lasted from 1971 until 2003 when it was stolen from me in NYC, and it had almost Chronometer accuracy through all those years, and was serviced just three or four times. So with all that info I am sorry to say but I think you were sold a cheap Chinese or East European copy/fake of it regardless it was sold by a dealer as NOS, specially when you paid 250 AUD. The PloProf always sold at two or three times the price of the Rolex Submariner during the PloProf lifetime, and that price is extremely low regardless it was sold as NOS in 1979. NOS is called when the model is discontinued and the PloProf was discontinued after 1979. I know all that info coz I used to work at the original Omega and Rolex Dealer and distributor in Puerto Rico, and was a Rolex Certified technician from 1974-77 when I enter Med School. And no, I never opened the PloProf. it was always serviced in Switzerland.
Absolutely love mine.....Treated it to a German made Shark Mesh, with a Strapcode Ratcheting Diver,s Clasp. Also upgraded the Spring Bars, the originals were not up to the job in my opinion, on such a weighty Watch. It was within COSC Specs straight out of the box, and has since settled down and received a tweak to get it back to COSC standards......One of, if not the best Ploprof Homages out there.....;) ;) ;)
Thank you so much for the review Dan. I have been salivating over this watch since November but have only seen a video or two that didn’t scratch my review itch. Great video as always, and I appreciate your thoroughness. Cheers!
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You did a good job on this review by demonstrating its pros and cons. I am not surprised about the wobble with the bezel because San Martin cautions buyers, on its AliExpress listing, about a similar issue. I believe this is necessary because the lock is mechanically similar to using a wedge to stop a door.
I was going to buy a Tissot sports watch ,but after you introduced me to steeldive I've binned the Tissot idea and got two steeldives, great looking watches and for the money I'm well chuffed ,cheers Dan.👍
@@leifhoklin2681 and even that watch you have to like watch bracelets to even think about buying one ,(they don't suit a small wrist) so all them factors I'll pass because of how much the auto costs and that's the only one I'd buy,I'd rather save up more money and get a tudor
@@darrenfry4695 see, I’m not much of a bracelet guy, though some watches are exceptions, like the PRX. Also, I’d rather have the PRX in the quartz variant. It wouldn’t be an everyday watch for me, and I would rather have that watch be thinner and be easy to throw on and go w/o having to set it first.
Good to see a review of this watch (and not by some over-excitable American, too ;) ) as it's not been featured much. I like the Ploprof, but it is a very Marmite watch - I've got a Helson Sharkmaster 600 (cost about $900 with an ETA 2824 movement) which is a homage to the original Ploprof, rather than the current model which the Chinese clones replicate (albeit very similar). I couldn't justify the cost of the Omega for the odd time I wear it, but the Helson is a nice watch and for a fun, summer watch (it'll never go under a shirt cuff!) the Steeldive is pretty good too, but you've got to really like the Ploprof styling. I would agree, though, it does wear smaller than you think, thanks to the short lug-to-lug measurement. It'll get noticed though! :D
I had a Rolex Submariner bi metal blue dial. I regularly had folk say that’s not real. Whilst wobbling their fake omegas. I would take it off and drop it in their pint, now put your omega in!!! Nah they wouldn’t. Free pint, drink it, watch back. Had it 10 years and made a profit selling. Bugger if I sold it now. I like that Steeldive Pro Poloff 🤪🤪🤪
I honestly found it a little trashy. Second hand car salesman type watch. It was a 1998 watch I bought in 2000 from Blowers in hull £2600 I wore it for 10 years and sold it for £3200. I then bought a Sea Dweller 2000 model year, last of the drilled lugs for £4200. Still got that with a service in 2015, £600. Not quite sure it was a good decision. Value wise. Looks wise most definitely, also got a Milgauss GV Black dial 2014 bought for £4000. Not lost money on either I guess, just lost the bling.
Not usually a fan of homages but Steeldive make some pretty compelling watches. Personally I love this, can see this in my collection in the future. Good review, Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻
I like how Steeldive makes upgrades to their watches. I handled the “ploprof” last year, and lume on that one was very weak. It seems that they fixed that, very nice. Still not a watch for me, I ordered it for a friend and had it in the house for 1 day. It is a serious chunk of metal, too much metal for my wrist...
Matt is great, the £25 discount is nice, but for me it is an odd looking watch for someone that might be on holiday for a couple of weeks looking to be wearing something stylish that can take repeated high impact with water. Then again Steeldive is such a stellar brand, in 25 years a watch like this might be worth stupid money to a Steeldive collector.
Thanks for showing it off. Did you know I have a submarine?! Ha! This one is on the list to feature on my channel as well, as I move through a variety of STEELDIVE watches. I was surprised that it didn’t look massive on you. Like you said, the lug to lug keeps it manageable.
Thank you for reviewing this, I have been *very* interested in this watch for a long time. I love the Plopropf but I have a smaller wrist so it wouldn't be right to barely wear it but for much less $, maybe.
This is not the watch for me, but I would like to see the bracelet re-sized did you say you need to use wire cutters? and if that's right how do you re-join the bracelet, I just can't get my head around it.
@@watchmewithwatches AAAHHH I get it now thanks Dan I do tend to be a bit dim from time to time, I was thinking you snipped the bracelet in the middle as you would with links.
Thank you for another great review. I really enjoyed it as I had looked at this watch a few times and wondered about its intricacies and true specs. I also enjoyed the historical explanation and relation to Omega. Fantastic. I agree with you that it is a fun piece but a little too much money for overall quality. For that money there are several other offerings with higher specs and quality to consider. Thank you again. All the best!
How long is that shark-mesh bracelet? You obviously can’t get extra links, and I have an 8 1/2” wrist! I’m the customer a large watch like this is made for!
@@stusims6567 on the shark mesh, 8.5inches may be cutting it fine. If you bought a longer milled clasp for a few dollars on aliexpress, you will be fine i reckon.
I wouldn't bet my house on this 1200 meter WR spec, because it seriously could do the job and probably even more. Why...? Because I have a Cronos Sea Dweller Deep Sea homage and that one was rated a 1000 meters and in the pressure tank reached 2800 meters (yes 280 bar) without problems. It went to 3000 meters, stopped, but back 'on land' it started running again. See the video for yourself here: ua-cam.com/video/nc6qPc0Xjac/v-deo.html
So basically with a shark mesh you take a small wire cutters and you snip that row off, remove the little shards of steel and then put a pin through it do you do it from the end? Man I’m gonna have to research how you say those, it’s rather intriguing
@@watchmewithwatches Yeah interesting, I’m watching your steel dive SD 1954 video and that’s very similar to the Invicta dive watch I did a review on last year, I had that one running within one second a day I really should’ve kept it it was perfect
Steeldive need to sort out a milled clasp on all their watches , bang another fiver on the prices by all means , doing something so simple would really move them up a strata.
It funny how the odd person judges when I am skeptical about ratings like that. If this was a watch that went through millions of pounds of engineering development etc, I would believe it. An homage watch is not known for that kind of investment and guarantee. I focus on it, because many buyers could be excited that their watch is capable of great things, when it is likely that it is not. I should send a few watches to deep sea divers and ask them to test these watches. Then, if the results are positive, it still wont really matter as how many deep sea divers that still wear a wrist watch are there? My mum knows the diving world and said its very unlikely!
@@watchmewithwatches I think you'll be as surprised what.a cheap watch can withstand as I was 😊 They tortured two watches until they imploded in a pressure chamber pressured by a hydraulic press. ua-cam.com/video/Ti-GdfGbj4Y/v-deo.html
Looking at the indexes I wish they did a Damasko homage ... the huge crown guard and pusher - while accurate to the original I am sure - is visually unappealing to me. Nice specs for the price however, keep the great watches coming Steeldive. Love that the date wheel is color matched. Also is that just dust on the macro shots or is the finishing poor?
hmm the big concern apart from wearing a grandfather clock on my wrist is the movement it's way out a diver could not really trust it on the results you got and the price great review but why on why do steeldive feel the need to make something that is not needed and as I said a diver would not touch this with this movement concern and even if it rains 364 days a year in manchester I still don't see the need
Quite a few tests on YT of some pretty basic watches going down to over 1km! Don't underestimate how waterproof some homages particularly (due to good fundamental design) can be. (using testing machines obviously)
Cracking review brother....great design, amazingly didn't look massive on wrist.... it'll stand out for sure....not sure how much wrist time I'd give and believe at that price it's something you need to know before parting with your hard earned....🏴⌚🏴⌚
I believe this would look ridiculous on my average size wrist 🤔 The bad amplitude and the high beat error are closely related. This movement is just badly misadjusted. But a nice review. I like when details about the original watch are mentioned during a review. Cheers Dan👍
I see it's still got the crazy amount of blue AR on the crystal. After owning the Willard for only a few weeks I'm selling it on, the AR totally ruins the aesthetic.
Yeah you can prove it. Send it to the hydraulic press channel and they'll test it as they built a test chamber for watches that will easily verify the rating. My feeling is this watch will easily pass unless there is a fault in the assembly of the case back seal or crystal. Almost every watch they've tested passed easily by a big margin - even very cheap $20 plastic case watches, Russian watches, Pulsars so on and so forth. Many don't even have screw closure of the crown. Some watches they test to destruction and when they finally yield, the pressure is well above their rating. They can test to 200 bar IIRC which is well above the rating of 1200m depth.
Excellent review and I agree, as a recreational diver, going beyond 15m starts giving the chills, can't imagine how must be going deep as those technical divers. However... even though I like this homage, as a secondary timing device to the diving computer, I rather take a Seiko or a Citizen real divers than a Steeldive, Tactical Frog, Helson, Seestern, Zelos, Panzera, Spinnaker, etc watch who might look tough, but not able to withstand 10m of real underwater pressure. I doubt any of those have any kind of ISO certification. Helm and Unimatic watches do. For desk diving, yes! Subscribed-
Well don't bet your house...... Beyond the press tested a cheap Dugena dive quartz, and i went over 1000m depth and didn't even break! 2000m broke it on the inside, but not even 3000m would break the glass Complete madness.
@@watchmewithwatches Just a follow up. I did end up buying the newest version of this watch with a milled clasp, and I love it for it's size, weight and the wow factor. Your video helped me make the decision, just to let you know.
Thank you for making the review. If you don't have a watch pressure tester to prove or disprove the stated rating on the dial and caseback, why talk so much about it not being able to perform. You talked endlessly and incessantly about strapping it to a submarine, when the test is done in a pressurized box on a desk. You reviews are often great to listen to and watch, but I found myself saying "just get on with it" more than I ever have before. You seem to have made your mind up about your impressions of the watch before you hit record and couldn't focus on the review for the people you're making the video for. You didn't even show the rubber strap you said came with it. It feels like the review was calling it a $300 toy with out taking it seriously at all until your promo code came to play. You're better than this and I'm glad this isn't my first view of your channel. Keep striving for greatness! Look forward to how you improve from here!!
@@mathieut3197 I'm not sanctimonious. I'm a fan. There's no right or wrong way to review, I just believe he's done a better job before. Instead of just saying 'you suck', I told him exactly what I didn't like. He's a great personality, I just didn't like his work on this. Nothing personal. As soon as I can go to another party, I'll keep you in mind, lol.
@@watchmewithwatches Hi Dan, for me, I liked the base vibe, and the feeling that you were 'being transported somewhere else in time and space' by the swirling black hole thing. it was really good! The new one is a bit, 'am I at a folk music festival?' Maybe I'm reading too much into it, and it doesn't detract from your great reviews or enjoyment of the channel. Just prefer the old one, that's all. Keep up the good work!
@@watchmewithwatches well fair play for that. I think I was a bit disappointed that you didn’t spend the usual amount of time on the case finishing etc. I guess it is hard to get past the novelty factor and I also have to bear in mind that you’d already established the movement was shot so you were never going to be too impressed with it. I was looking for a review of it’s dive capabilities, I should have just been happy to have found one of the very few reviews out there. Thank you anyway and appreciate you taking the time to reply
I counted 88 clicks but I may have been off by 2. Possibly, they figured if they up the click count they could dispense with precision alignment of the bezel. You'd always be off by so little as for it not to matter.
How about some real brands like Seiko Citizen Orient? Much better than these copies, and you can get plenty of better watches for around the same as this monstrosity!.
FYI: the 2016 OMEGA Ploprof reissue is 1200M WR and has not only a screw case-back, but also has a sapphire exhibition back, and yet it is still double the WR of the original 600M Monobloc. It also uses the same crown guard system as seen on the Steeldive homage. As for the original 600M version, I had one for about 16 years. It was the most unreliable watch I have ever owned! It never leaked but it wore out(!) 3 movements in 16 years; all the money was in the case, the movement inside the ridiculously thick case was a very small calibre, low-end ETA that did not hack and was near impossible to regulate. Accuracy was crap too, +/-2 MINUTES per day! Lastly, the red button; unlike the 2016 reissue and all homages, this was PLASTIC with a plastic shaft below it. The spring was clipped into a groove in the shaft and eventually wore through the shaft, resulting in the red button spontaneously ejecting itself from the watch! By the time I got rid of it, it was on its 5th button! BTW, I bought mine in 1979 from a local jewellery chain with an Omega franchise as NOS. They had not been able to sell it in 8 years in the window, so they "clearanced" it for AUD $250! 16 years later, I sold it for AUD $2,000 in 1995. Good riddance! I think I just about broke even, considering the money spent on service whilst I owned it. The Steeldive homage may not be a Co-Axial Chronometer like the 2016 Ploprof, but it sure as hell will be better made, more accurate and a whole galaxy more reliable than the original 600 Monobloc!..... "Legends not supported by fact are just fairy tales."
very interesting, thanks for sharing!
Really? A PloProf with an ETA movement? WOW, you got a really bad copy/fake, specially with an ETA movement (?) when Omega NEVER used ETA movements during the 1970s!!!!. Their movement supplier was Lemania. I have never personally heard from my fellow watchmakers that the original PloProf had ETA movements coz ETA never supplied mechanical/automatic movements to Omega and Tissot until the late 1980s that later became the SWATCH Group in the 1990s. ETA was a supplier to Eterna Watches until the mid-1970s. Are you sure you bought it as NOS from a dealership? sorry to say but yours look like you got a Franken-watch- a Watch with a Chinese made case and an adapted non-original ETA movement= Fake. The PloProf case interior could only accommodate a slim movement, and ETA did not have a slim movement until the ETA 2892 of 1972, and that movement was a very expensive top of the line movement at the time. The Ploprof was normally fit with Lemania 10xx hacking movements like a 1002, 1005, 1010, or 1020, and the 1002 was famous coz it had a sample that tested at +/- 0.0 seconds in all 5 positions and 3 Temps in the Time Observatories, and those movements were slim hacking movements and were beating at 28800 vph!!!! And that thing about the plastic red button, it was not any plastic, but strong nylon and the tube was in metal with a very strong Stainless Steel spring, so it could not had eroded that easy, mine never did. The PloProf was rated at 600m but tested to 1000m with no problems. And my PloProf had the Lemania 1002 that lasted from 1971 until 2003 when it was stolen from me in NYC, and it had almost Chronometer accuracy through all those years, and was serviced just three or four times. So with all that info I am sorry to say but I think you were sold a cheap Chinese or East European copy/fake of it regardless it was sold by a dealer as NOS, specially when you paid 250 AUD. The PloProf always sold at two or three times the price of the Rolex Submariner during the PloProf lifetime, and that price is extremely low regardless it was sold as NOS in 1979. NOS is called when the model is discontinued and the PloProf was discontinued after 1979. I know all that info coz I used to work at the original Omega and Rolex Dealer and distributor in Puerto Rico, and was a Rolex Certified technician from 1974-77 when I enter Med School. And no, I never opened the PloProf. it was always serviced in Switzerland.
Absolutely love mine.....Treated it to a German made Shark Mesh, with a Strapcode Ratcheting Diver,s Clasp. Also upgraded the Spring Bars, the originals were not up to the job in my opinion, on such a weighty Watch. It was within COSC Specs straight out of the box, and has since settled down and received a tweak to get it back to COSC standards......One of, if not the best Ploprof Homages out there.....;) ;) ;)
Thank you so much for the review Dan. I have been salivating over this watch since November but have only seen a video or two that didn’t scratch my review itch. Great video as always, and I appreciate your thoroughness. Cheers!
Thanks Pierce
"Turtle inspired watches are unnecessarily heavy and unbalanced steel ingots"
ProPlof: "Hold my crown guard"
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You did a good job on this review by demonstrating its pros and cons. I am not surprised about the wobble with the bezel because San Martin cautions buyers, on its AliExpress listing, about a similar issue. I believe this is necessary because the lock is mechanically similar to using a wedge to stop a door.
Very interesting! It makes sense that the bezel action/feel is affected by the way it functions
Good insider info Chris ...
Has mine for a year or so . Keeps perfect time and attracts attention. Well worth the money
Steeldive make fantastic watches.
Agreed!
Agreed, but San Martin makes them a bit nicer and somewhat more expensive
Does the Helium Escape Velve work or is it just a decorative thing?
Looks amazing! Think this is a brilliant homage for anyone who is a fan of the Omega
Its a proper beast!
I was going to buy a Tissot sports watch ,but after you introduced me to steeldive I've binned the Tissot idea and got two steeldives, great looking watches and for the money I'm well chuffed ,cheers Dan.👍
Only Tissot that is decent looking is the PRX, imo.
@@leifhoklin2681 and even that watch you have to like watch bracelets to even think about buying one ,(they don't suit a small wrist) so all them factors I'll pass because of how much the auto costs and that's the only one I'd buy,I'd rather save up more money and get a tudor
@@darrenfry4695 see, I’m not much of a bracelet guy, though some watches are exceptions, like the PRX. Also, I’d rather have the PRX in the quartz variant. It wouldn’t be an everyday watch for me, and I would rather have that watch be thinner and be easy to throw on and go w/o having to set it first.
I’m glad you’ve reviewed this one - I saw it in the steeldive uk website and wondered what it was like!!
Good to see a review of this watch (and not by some over-excitable American, too ;) ) as it's not been featured much.
I like the Ploprof, but it is a very Marmite watch - I've got a Helson Sharkmaster 600 (cost about $900 with an ETA 2824 movement) which is a homage to the original Ploprof, rather than the current model which the Chinese clones replicate (albeit very similar).
I couldn't justify the cost of the Omega for the odd time I wear it, but the Helson is a nice watch and for a fun, summer watch (it'll never go under a shirt cuff!) the Steeldive is pretty good too, but you've got to really like the Ploprof styling.
I would agree, though, it does wear smaller than you think, thanks to the short lug-to-lug measurement.
It'll get noticed though! :D
I had a Rolex Submariner bi metal blue dial. I regularly had folk say that’s not real. Whilst wobbling their fake omegas. I would take it off and drop it in their pint, now put your omega in!!!
Nah they wouldn’t. Free pint, drink it, watch back. Had it 10 years and made a profit selling. Bugger if I sold it now.
I like that Steeldive Pro Poloff 🤪🤪🤪
Great story Michael, what made you sell the Rolex?
I honestly found it a little trashy. Second hand car salesman type watch. It was a 1998 watch I bought in 2000 from Blowers in hull
£2600 I wore it for 10 years and sold it for £3200. I then bought a Sea Dweller 2000 model year, last of the drilled lugs for £4200.
Still got that with a service in 2015, £600.
Not quite sure it was a good decision. Value wise. Looks wise most definitely, also got a Milgauss GV Black dial 2014 bought for £4000. Not lost money on either I guess, just lost the bling.
Not usually a fan of homages but Steeldive make some pretty compelling watches. Personally I love this, can see this in my collection in the future.
Good review, Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Steve!
James Bond used his Rolex Oyster Perpetual as a weapon in both the novel and movie "On Her Majesty's Secret Service."
I like how Steeldive makes upgrades to their watches.
I handled the “ploprof” last year, and lume on that one was very weak.
It seems that they fixed that, very nice.
Still not a watch for me, I ordered it for a friend and had it in the house for 1 day.
It is a serious chunk of metal, too much metal for my wrist...
I just ordered the steel dive watch marine after seeing your review. Nice 5 pound discount, thanks!
Nice one! Enjoy
This watch has 3 version so make sure if you want to buy it. Get ver. 3
I never knew! What's better about the newer versions?
Matt is great, the £25 discount is nice, but for me it is an odd looking watch for someone that might be on holiday for a couple of weeks looking to be wearing something stylish that can take repeated high impact with water.
Then again Steeldive is such a stellar brand, in 25 years a watch like this might be worth stupid money to a Steeldive collector.
Thanks for showing it off. Did you know I have a submarine?! Ha! This one is on the list to feature on my channel as well, as I move through a variety of STEELDIVE watches. I was surprised that it didn’t look massive on you. Like you said, the lug to lug keeps it manageable.
Any idea to change the logo?
If I had my way, an applied logo just saying "STEELDIVE" would work
@@watchmewithwatches I mean replace by the OMEGA logo. I'm just thinking to do that.
Thank you for reviewing this, I have been *very* interested in this watch for a long time. I love the Plopropf but I have a smaller wrist so it wouldn't be right to barely wear it but for much less $, maybe.
watched a vid of a 1000m Ali diver taken down to 3000m in a pressure chamber and it servived that torture test with flying colours
Yes! Much better discussing the water resistance. The company claims "X depth". 👍
This is not the watch for me, but I would like to see the bracelet re-sized did you say you need to use wire cutters? and if that's right how do you re-join the bracelet, I just can't get my head around it.
Once you cut the unrequired row of links off, the spring bar would thread through again in the new location.
@@watchmewithwatches AAAHHH I get it now thanks Dan I do tend to be a bit dim from time to time, I was thinking you snipped the bracelet in the middle as you would with links.
@@John-P not at all! I would have shown this but as the watch was borrowed I didn't want to change the bracelet.
Thank you for another great review. I really enjoyed it as I had looked at this watch a few times and wondered about its intricacies and true specs. I also enjoyed the historical explanation and relation to Omega. Fantastic. I agree with you that it is a fun piece but a little too much money for overall quality. For that money there are several other offerings with higher specs and quality to consider. Thank you again. All the best!
Thank you Felo! You are a true gentleman
@@watchmewithwatches Thank you kindly....and you as well 👍
The Delta Hydra appears to be a very interesting piece too. Check it out.
I will mate, thanks
It needs to go to “Beyond The Press” they have a 2000m test tank!
Thanks for sharing, I do fancy one though.
Does the bezel rotate counter clockwise without depressing the orange release button?
You have to press it for both directions of movement . Regards, Dan
Will it do 1200M? Sounds like a question for the Beyond the Press Channel.
Great idea!
How long is that shark-mesh bracelet? You obviously can’t get extra links, and I have an 8 1/2” wrist! I’m the customer a large watch like this is made for!
I actually forgot to measure that, tbh, sorry mate!
@@watchmewithwatches it happens. I’d sure like to know!
@@stusims6567 on the shark mesh, 8.5inches may be cutting it fine. If you bought a longer milled clasp for a few dollars on aliexpress, you will be fine i reckon.
How to regulate bracelet?
I wouldn't bet my house on this 1200 meter WR spec, because it seriously could do the job and probably even more. Why...? Because I have a Cronos Sea Dweller Deep Sea homage and that one was rated a 1000 meters and in the pressure tank reached 2800 meters (yes 280 bar) without problems. It went to 3000 meters, stopped, but back 'on land' it started running again. See the video for yourself here: ua-cam.com/video/nc6qPc0Xjac/v-deo.html
So basically with a shark mesh you take a small wire cutters and you snip that row off, remove the little shards of steel and then put a pin through it do you do it from the end? Man I’m gonna have to research how you say those, it’s rather intriguing
I would say it's a pain on the butt, but the look is really cool for a dive watch and maybe worth the effort!
@@watchmewithwatches Yeah interesting, I’m watching your steel dive SD 1954 video and that’s very similar to the Invicta dive watch I did a review on last year, I had that one running within one second a day I really should’ve kept it it was perfect
From experience I'd say you're *way* better off doing it with a Dremel. It's a much cleaner cut and so much easier to tune the fit row by row.
Nice presentation man.
They should fatten those lumed indices (12oclock ones are 👌), then make the minute hash marks much finer.
Steeldive need to sort out a milled clasp on all their watches , bang another fiver on the prices by all means , doing something so simple would really move them up a strata.
Finally someone honest about how deep a human most likely go diving. At leat some sence in these nonsense wr madness...
It funny how the odd person judges when I am skeptical about ratings like that. If this was a watch that went through millions of pounds of engineering development etc, I would believe it. An homage watch is not known for that kind of investment and guarantee. I focus on it, because many buyers could be excited that their watch is capable of great things, when it is likely that it is not. I should send a few watches to deep sea divers and ask them to test these watches. Then, if the results are positive, it still wont really matter as how many deep sea divers that still wear a wrist watch are there? My mum knows the diving world and said its very unlikely!
Yeah even 300m is kinda stupid tbh
I wouldn't trust it! It's fine maybe for swimming at the beach snorkeling but that's about it!
@@watchmewithwatches I think you'll be as surprised what.a cheap watch can withstand as I was 😊 They tortured two watches until they imploded in a pressure chamber pressured by a hydraulic press.
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Looking at the indexes I wish they did a Damasko homage ... the huge crown guard and pusher - while accurate to the original I am sure - is visually unappealing to me.
Nice specs for the price however, keep the great watches coming Steeldive. Love that the date wheel is color matched.
Also is that just dust on the macro shots or is the finishing poor?
As an American, I have never heard of tip to tip -always lug to lug. Tip to tip sounds like something else...
LOL! I heard Mark from Long Island watches use the term "tip to tip". Hopefully watch length is what he was referring too ;)
@@watchmewithwatches D: Maybe it's a New York thing.
Recheck the movement fully winded with the right liftangle 53°
True. But would the lift angle setting dictate the rate or beat error readings?
@@watchmewithwatches Probably not really, but the amplitude should at least be better. A test is done quickly and who knows...
@@peterk7995 thanks!
hmm the big concern apart from wearing a grandfather clock on my wrist is the movement it's way out a diver could not really trust it on the results you got and the price great review but why on why do steeldive feel the need to make something that is not needed and as I said a diver would not touch this with this movement concern and even if it rains 364 days a year in manchester I still don't see the need
It’s just a toy.
FYI... The lift angle on NH35,NH36 is 53 degrees...
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I have come to love this design. Question is, how does it cmpare to the San Martin Ploprof?
Good question!
Kyle from Grimwood Watch Modding channel works with deep water equipment, ask him to strap it to something. That would be amazing.⚓
Good idea! Its a subject people are very passionate about.
It would no doubt explode!
@@NathanChisholm041 probably, but it'd be really interesting to see wouldn't it? 🤔
Excellent review. This is only the second video of yours that I've seen, but this is a good one. I suspect they all are. 😁
Thanks Donny!
dive watch or dive weight ? i don't think its for me c,mon steeldive do a seiko pogue homage
How about they make something original instead of these boring copies!!
@@NathanChisholm041 yes indeed
Good presentation of a very unique watch. I'm sure someone out there will buy it I think?
Quite a few tests on YT of some pretty basic watches going down to over 1km! Don't underestimate how waterproof some homages particularly (due to good fundamental design) can be. (using testing machines obviously)
Hmmmmm the plot thickens
Cracking review brother....great design, amazingly didn't look massive on wrist.... it'll stand out for sure....not sure how much wrist time I'd give and believe at that price it's something you need to know before parting with your hard earned....🏴⌚🏴⌚
"Big chunky gadgety watch" I couldn't agree more.
Thanks!
I believe this would look ridiculous on my average size wrist 🤔 The bad amplitude and the high beat error are closely related. This movement is just badly misadjusted. But a nice review. I like when details about the original watch are mentioned during a review. Cheers Dan👍
Wow, that's a lot of watch for the money. Not my cup of tea, but I enjoyed your review 👍
Thanks!
I see it's still got the crazy amount of blue AR on the crystal. After owning the Willard for only a few weeks I'm selling it on, the AR totally ruins the aesthetic.
I'll watch the video later as I have people over, but that thumbnail cracks me up 🤣
Beyond the press, UA-cam channel can pressure test it for you until it explodes and tell you the depth at which it exploded or stopped working
... I don't think I need another NH35. 😁
you don't need a Sub, just a bit of string and a deep lake. 🤗
Great idea. One day I will get a boat, some string and see what we discover!
Yeah you can prove it. Send it to the hydraulic press channel and they'll test it as they built a test chamber for watches that will easily verify the rating. My feeling is this watch will easily pass unless there is a fault in the assembly of the case back seal or crystal.
Almost every watch they've tested passed easily by a big margin - even very cheap $20 plastic case watches, Russian watches, Pulsars so on and so forth. Many don't even have screw closure of the crown. Some watches they test to destruction and when they finally yield, the pressure is well above their rating.
They can test to 200 bar IIRC which is well above the rating of 1200m depth.
Send it to the “beyond the press” Channel and they’ll do the deep sea test!
Better yours than mine! 😱
Aesthetically this watch is incredible but those movement issues & the price just put me off unfortunately. Great review as always.
Thank you
Great watch fun video.
Thanks Jeb
It is easier to say Pro-plof😉 . Great video, I enjoy your channel a lot congrats.
just because you can, doesn't mean you should
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Excellent review and I agree, as a recreational diver, going beyond 15m starts giving the chills, can't imagine how must be going deep as those technical divers.
However... even though I like this homage, as a secondary timing device to the diving computer, I rather take a Seiko or a Citizen real divers than a Steeldive, Tactical Frog, Helson, Seestern, Zelos, Panzera, Spinnaker, etc watch who might look tough, but not able to withstand 10m of real underwater pressure. I doubt any of those have any kind of ISO certification. Helm and Unimatic watches do.
For desk diving, yes! Subscribed-
Well don't bet your house...... Beyond the press tested a cheap Dugena dive quartz, and i went over 1000m depth and didn't even break! 2000m broke it on the inside, but not even 3000m would break the glass Complete madness.
Omg, no way!
@@watchmewithwatches Just a follow up. I did end up buying the newest version of this watch with a milled clasp, and I love it for it's size, weight and the wow factor.
Your video helped me make the decision, just to let you know.
@@099las thats great to hear! Enjoy your new watch. Kind regards, Dan.
😂😂😂 dont bet the house. Nice review sir.
When you need to time your dives during daytime and smashing a burglar’s head in at 01:00 pm🤣
What a versatile watch!
You say Proplof ... I say gesundheit.
Bless you
We all live in a yellow submarine ... a yellow submarine ... a yellow submarine ...
Sounds like it has been magnetized
I think you are on to something there, I might buy a demagnetiser gadget! Any excuse for a new toy....
Thank you for making the review. If you don't have a watch pressure tester to prove or disprove the stated rating on the dial and caseback, why talk so much about it not being able to perform. You talked endlessly and incessantly about strapping it to a submarine, when the test is done in a pressurized box on a desk. You reviews are often great to listen to and watch, but I found myself saying "just get on with it" more than I ever have before. You seem to have made your mind up about your impressions of the watch before you hit record and couldn't focus on the review for the people you're making the video for. You didn't even show the rubber strap you said came with it. It feels like the review was calling it a $300 toy with out taking it seriously at all until your promo code came to play. You're better than this and I'm glad this isn't my first view of your channel.
Keep striving for greatness! Look forward to how you improve from here!!
I'm proud of this video and how I discussed and presented the watch. Thanks for your opinion anyway.
You must be fun at parties.
@@mathieut3197 lol,if thats to me, parties are a blast, just never go to any anymore :(
@@watchmewithwatches sorry, not to you, obvi, our buddy Sanford sounds like a sanctimonious prat.
@@mathieut3197 I'm not sanctimonious. I'm a fan. There's no right or wrong way to review, I just believe he's done a better job before. Instead of just saying 'you suck', I told him exactly what I didn't like. He's a great personality, I just didn't like his work on this. Nothing personal.
As soon as I can go to another party, I'll keep you in mind, lol.
I’m a fan of Steeldive but omg this watch is not pretty. Nice review as usual though 👍🏼
Looks like a very good homage but...If you were someone who needs a watch like this you'd easily have the money to buy an original.
Very true 👍
What about super man
Just ordered one from Matt, am turning into a repeat offender for buying Steedive.
I love it :-)
Dan, I would prefer your old intro. Just saying......
Thats very kind of you, what did you prefer about it?
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Hi Dan, for me, I liked the base vibe, and the feeling that you were 'being transported somewhere else in time and space' by the swirling black hole thing. it was really good!
The new one is a bit, 'am I at a folk music festival?'
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, and it doesn't detract from your great reviews or enjoyment of the channel.
Just prefer the old one, that's all.
Keep up the good work!
@@marw8383 that's a great point! I might juggle the two. They both have my branding so are Still useful. Thanks for your great feedback!
Fun gadgety watch? He’s based his whole assessment on not knowing whether the 1200m is true
True. Don't have the means to test that kind of pressure I'm afraid!
@@watchmewithwatches well fair play for that. I think I was a bit disappointed that you didn’t spend the usual amount of time on the case finishing etc. I guess it is hard to get past the novelty factor and I also have to bear in mind that you’d already established the movement was shot so you were never going to be too impressed with it. I was looking for a review of it’s dive capabilities, I should have just been happy to have found one of the very few reviews out there. Thank you anyway and appreciate you taking the time to reply
@Joel Henderson-Woodcraft a pleasure, thanks for watching!
P.s If I did own this watch I'd ditch the shark mesh and put it on a Barton rubber strap.When it comes to divers all bracelets suck imo.
proplof babe
Its really too bad that they've spent all this time on this watch and outfit it with a 90 click bezel.
I counted 88 clicks but I may have been off by 2. Possibly, they figured if they up the click count they could dispense with precision alignment of the bezel. You'd always be off by so little as for it not to matter.
I counted again. 22 clicks for every 15 minutes. It's an 88-click bezel.
It's pronounced prophylactic ! Geez !
Lol! Much better name
It's quite horrible, and that movement needs to go to the doctor
Absolutely awful, nothing against Steeldive, I own one, but you couldn't pay me to wear that, horrible.
How about some real brands like Seiko Citizen Orient? Much better than these copies, and you can get plenty of better watches for around the same as this monstrosity!.