Doctor Who's Russell T Davies explains how Timeless Child reveal impacts the show's future
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- Speaking exclusively to RadioTimes.com, returning showrunner Russell T Davies confirms that the major plot twist of the Chris Chibnall era will continue to impact Doctor Who as it enters a bold new era starring Ncuti Gatwa.
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YES
Getting to the emotional core of the TC storyline should have been the play from the start, and I think it would have made a lot of people more accepting if we saw it in a way that wasn’t delivered like a PowerPoint
Honestly the most happy I was with all that stuff was in Wild Blue Yonder where they talked about that stuff and the Flux and we could see the Doctor emotionally affected by it then afterwards just kicking and beating the wall with pent up emotion. I suddenly cared, because I saw the effect it had.
@@ClintBandito Same thoughts!
In other words he'll nuke it in a clever way.
Why don't ppl like the timeless.child idea? Isn't it a copl.and original sci-fi idea?
@@leif1075@Ibalistic_hedge my cousin who is in his 50s he watched classic doctor who growing up and then rewatched the classic series on britbox cause he loved the show so much. Would be PISSED if he found out about the Timeless child story cause he always said that the new doctor who in 2005-2011 had to many jokes in it which took away from the seriousness of the plot cause he saw bits and pieces of the show one it was rebooted but if he found out about the doctors history being reconnected he be furious about it and it fucks with the whole of the classic series of doctor who that he grew up watching.
Using it as the emotional core of our Central duo! Brilliant!
I agree that it could be dramatically appropriate for the show if treated carefully enough.
I view this positively to me it just strengthens my love for the show
then you're a fake fan then
@@xsm5525 how exactly am I a 'fake fan' for liking a story you don't gee it sounds like you are just mad about something added to the Canon much like big finish audio's being part of the canon since night of the doctor.
@@xsm5525 grow up lad
@@joshsmith2178 don't be cheeky
bahahahahahaha *tears
Who was that woman in the end of time then? I always assumed it was the doctor’s mother or something.
We will never know.
Well she wasn't!🤷
Adoptive mother maybe ?
tecteun, technically their adoptive mother I guess
@@beejamjamprobably the woman who actually raised the doctor
R.I.P Doctor Who 1963 - 2017
Nah they kept making seasons after 2017. I think you might have amnesia
The only hope I have is that they give an explanation to the doctor unable to regenerate more than twelve times initially
Like the timeless child fob watch houses the true biology of the doctor, like John Smith
If the time lords can remove his memories and turn him back into a baby they can put a limiter on his number of regenerations.
I'd love to hear his real opinion behind closed doors.
He always has to be a scary boogeyman.
Baby Reindeer wouldn't reveal who the abuser was, so here we are sleuthing
I get that he doesn't want to disrespect his friend's work i get that, that's fine but why does he have to acknowledge it in his version why can't he just ignore it like he did with the half human thing from the movie the timeless child is not a popular storyline why is he sticking with it and just let be dead and buried and unresolved with the Whittaker era. Also why disrespect Terry Nation's work with his creative character Davros he knows that's going to upset people why is he doing it i think Disney are more in control than he's letting on.
This show needs new ideas, sticking with the standard formula means nothing grows or evolves. You're doing more damage to the show by wanting everything to stay the same
@@cheapfinish6224 I don't understand how anyone could honestly say the new version of Davros was an improvement on the old from a sci-fi point of view. Plus RTD doesn't even seem to realize that Davros was in a portable life support machine designed by him, so he could live longer than his humanoid life span. So his whole reasoning is mistaken. Terry Nations clever innovation was to make the Daleks creator half humanoid, half dalek. What has RTD invented on that level? Even the Weeping Angels arguably the best innovation of the re-boot were Steven Moffat's creation.
@@cheapfinish6224 doesnt mean you write any stupid thing you like and make it canon. You're doing more damage to the show by defending hack writing.
The Timless Child concept was just awful Doubling down on it is a huge mistake.
What it does is open new doors to new stories. The show is 60 years old. That means it gets harder to come up with new ways to present old material. In the end repeat creep enters the series and it loses all freshness. The whole reason this show has survived is because new makes for new directions. Regeneration (1966), Timelords (1968), Unit (1968), Master (1970). These are some of the things that rejuvenated and brought fresh new directions to the show. The Timeless Child thing reintroduces something to the Doctor that was there in the beginning (1963). It brings back anonymity. Lets face it. In 1963 the Doctor was more concept than a character with an specific origin Although the origins are a bit different now, we have returned from once we came because with anonymity comes all kinds of opportunities to spin new tales. And that is the strength of the Timeless Child.
@@professorakiba434 The "who" in DW
@@Comicbroe405 exactly, an air of mystery around characters makes them so much more interesting, series 3 did it best by explaining them but you can still feel so much lore and info held back which sparks imagination
I hated it when it first was revealed but honestly it could've been the execution and gonna gibe Russel the benefit of the doubt and see what he does with it
@joshsmith2178 Agreed, I'll see how it goes too, but I have my doubts.
Playing with the Timeless Child concept, as the source of Timelords regeneration power, is fine but lets hope RTD retcons The Doctor away from being its origin.
Anything Chris has written isn't canon and should never be considered canon, You can't write something that contradicts 50 plus years of canon, I understand Russell is friends with Chris but dude needs to understand what Chris wrote is bad and shouldn't be incorporated into the future of the show
But granted what I just said is too late to say now considering filming and that Russell too doesn't care for canon anymore as evident by the dumb Davros retcon
We can only hope the series stays good by Russell writing original stories with no returning characters that have their lives retconned
TTC thing isn't that different from what the og show wanted to do with Lungbarrow. They're pretty similar. Also isn't that just Davros in the past? We've seen that he used to be a normal white person.
@@Comicbroe405 I haven't read the books so I can't say anything but Cartmel Masterplan that the book focuses on isn't canon either but simply an idea to get viewers when the show was dying in the late 80s but wasn't put on screen
Also sorry I can't link the behind the scenes interview of Russell but I can't find it and all YT is giving me is cringe clickbait titles of reaction videos when I search
But Russell doesn't want any future version of Davros to be in his life support system or as he put it in a wheelchair because he doesn't want people to think handicapped people are evil, I don't know what he was smoking there when he said there was a long history of people being portrayed as such considering first person in my mind when you mention a wheelchair is Professor X and Oracle
@@robindeknijff5769 I don't think he's exactly wrong when he says that characters in wheelchairs have been portrayed as evil but... He shouldn't really have done it with Davros cuz early DW had shown us a good wheelchair in the Dalek Invasion ep & it was always life support.
Also Prof X isn't a "good" guy. He's morally ambigious in the comics.
What Chibnall did with the show seemed like it was going too far... until RTD took over again and created the worst era in the show's entire history which does even worse things to the show, like making the Doctor a wizard who can do anything, and making the Doctor attracted to men.
@@Scripture-Man the Doctor being attracted to men isn’t a problem I’d say since regeneration changes several things within the Doctor
RTD was very lazy though with his writing this season I must say
Right so it sounds like their not so much going to be diving deeper into it and trying hard to explain it. They just want to use it as an emotional beat for the Doctor and Ruby to connect and bond over and honestly? I'm happy with that, we don't need to know where the Doctor was from exactly. I think that just adds to the charm "Doctor Who?" Who knows? And thats the point.
Jodie's era was awful, and when Chibnall dropped the Timeless Children it was the most destructive thing the show had ever done. But Timeless Children seems irrelevant now in the light of the unspeakable damage RTD has done, creating the worst series of the show ever, which utterly destroys the franchise in a way Timeless Children never did. Timeless Children was basically just backstory, but RTD has completely changed the entire genre of the show. It's now no longer sci-fi, it's a magical fantasy show where ghosts are real and the Doctor is a wizard who can literally do anything, and who sings and cries all the time and who is now engaged to a man.
RTD is a bit selective when it comes to insisting his predecessors work should be respected. Chris Chibnall's work gets a lot of respect, Terry Nation's, not so much.
You mean by RTD right? Because I read this as respect given by the fans
What does Terry Nation have to do with this?
@@ScroteydadaThe Davros thing since RTD is changing him from being a wheelchair user to man on legs and the fact that it's not his creation and doesn't have a right to do that since that is not his creation it's Terry Nation's. So I get his point as to why he's willing to keep Chibnall's unpopular storyline but it's alright for him to undo Terry Nation's work or other writers and producer's before him i believe was what @simongardner3766 was getting at.
@joshuajoshua2732 this is a very odd way to look at media.
@@Scroteydada 'Timeless Child' can not be retconned, 'Davros', RTD happy to retcon.
Ugh
More rubbish 😂
Something that people don't seem to be pointing out is he is absolutely NOT sticking with the timeless child canon. He said that the timelords took the doctor in which is different to what was stated in the original canon, where the timelords are made up of the doctor's DNA. I don't like the timeless child concept but I prefer Russell's take on it. As always, he knows what makes a good character driven story instead of Chibnall's big "epic" reveals.
Honestly the way some of those anti woke UA-camrs talk about rtd is really harsh.
He immediately found a compelling emotional angle to a story everyone hated. Hats off to be fair
No don’t continue the timeless child, it was awful and didn’t make sense. Like I swear Russel is on a one man mission to kill the series atm.
I don't think they're continuing with the lore stuff. Moreso the emotional baggage.
I wonder what he really feels about when the camera is off.
@@purefoldnz3070 probably shame
@@Ibalistic_hedge Chibnall is like the ugly stepchild of the group.
@Ibalistic_hedge why do toubthink it was awful, if I may ask? It is a matter of opinion, to.some extent at least right? Isn't it a cool.and origonal.idea from a sci fi standpoint at least? And can it.make the Gallifreyans leas human like, as they maybe should be? Or maybe does it make them too human?
The Timeless Child was a worst version of what Robert Venditti did for Hawkman in DC Comics: the big difference being that Venditti actually did something with his premise - we actually got to know Carter Hall's original incarnation, the Deathbringer (and his people), who began the endless cycle of reincarnations, as well as other previously unknown incarnations of Hawkman. We even got to see them all team up together to save the Earth. Hawkman even got back all of his missing memories from all of his past lives.
What did Chibnall do with the Timeless Child? Nothing. What has Davies done? Nothing. There's no point playing it up for "drama", when the Doctor could get back his missing memories at any point, from the fob watch placed inside the TARDIS. You could've expanded the character, and thus the series' mythology, shown us hundreds of past lives, let us get to know them as distinct individuals with their own stories and conflicts and companions, that could be told across audio dramas and TV specials and novels and comic books. You could've used the Timeless Child to build up the "Doctor-verse" as a multimedia enterprise. You could've shown us lives that the Doctor spent entirely on Earth or living on other worlds. You could've shown us where the Child came from, its planet and people, and why they can regenerate, if they're even still alive. Chibnall wanted to add to the mystery, but did little to deepen or expand the character; unlike what Venditti did for Hawkman.
We're only one episode into Ncuti's run and we already have a mention of him being adopted like Ruby.
To be fair, Chibnall not showing why the Doctor was a foundling, and everything that happened before that like their origins is the point, with being a foundling you know absolutely nothing about your origins, your birth parents, and the circumstances of your birth, which fits perfectly with the very question the title of the show asks and also the original mystery of the Doctor, not knowing anything about their origins was a deliberate choice by Sydney Newman, one which The War Games went against. For example in the unaired pilot of An Unearthly Child, Susan says that she was “born in the 49th Century,” but because the Doctor’s origins were intended to be a mystery, it was changed to “I was born in another time, another world” so with that aspect of the Timeless Child, Chibnall reintroduced the mystery of the Doctor, but I completely agree that the Fugitive Doctor for example should’ve had more focus. I think that her incarnation would’ve been a great way of answering as to why the Doctor left Division, and ended up being mind-wiped and forced back into a child.
@@Scroteydadawow, what an amazing exploration of the concept 😑
@@colemacgrath2005 Is this what streaming has done to people's brains? What you can't binge an entire series in one go so you demand they give you everything in one episode?
still hate it
Whilst I'm not a particular fan of the Timeless Child retcon done by Chris Chibnall, I do applaud Russell T Davies' decision to build on that history rather than completely ignore it.