Xande Ribeiro Reacts to Craig Jones Invitational vs ADCC | Everyday Perspective Podcast Clips
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- 2024 ADCC Hall of Fame Inductee, BJJ Legend and Victor Hugo's Professor, Xande Ribeiro Reacts to the Craig Jones Invitational vs ADCC Situation
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"I'm feeling hurt because I'm in the Hall of Fame of the ADCC" -- sums up everything.
I don't think you get it..
na craig wouldnt have leveraged mo's increase in pay if it was at a later date
Man, its wild how people still miss the point of what Craig is doing. Is not difficult to understand, if the most prestigious championship of jiu jitsu is paying like shit, doesn't matter if the athletes will be considered the best and have all the glory if they cant pay the bills and Im not even talking about those who will not win.
Putting the CJI in the same weekend is perfect, now we can clearly see what the athletes really want. Is it the money or be the world champion and receive almost nothing?
And we have to talk about it how ADCC is shady as fuck, we know that Danaher crew has special treatment, Meregali did a stupid post saying that he asked Mou to change the bracket so he can face guys that he wanted to fight, then he said that people were stupid and couldnt understand what he said..
CJI will be as stacked as ADCC, and everyone will receive the same amount of the ADCC winner just to show up
t's like this guy doesn't even keep up with what's happening and then decided to make 15 min video without understanding any context haha
It is sad at all levels
sooo because adcc was first it's hands off their time slot? Craig's goal is to make the sport better by bringing more money to the athletes and more eyeballs... competition does just that. adcc will either step up and start paying athletes more money to match or beat Craig's offered money levels or they will fade from the stage... as it is with everything.
Perfectly said, this is not something hard to understand, why doesn't he get it ?
Craig is the current leader of the Jiu jitsu revolution! Xande is a nice guy. I think he'll feel differently after Victor Hugo wins!
aint no way adcc isnt payin this guy to come up with as much bs as possible for them
This will be a one time thing.
If Xande is in his prime then he might say otherwise
Seems salty because it's too little too late for him. He got the 2003-2018 payscale and is bitter. He even said Jiu-Jitsu athletes are spoiled.
Totally agree
Wow! What a surprising take from an old school kind of fella!
As much as I hespect Xande as an athlete, I think a few of his points don't quite hold water.
Firstly, ADCC DO underpay athletes, both in real and relative terms. 20 years ago, 10k wasn't a lot of money, it's even less now thanks to most of that value being inflated away. 10k for months of training, risking your health and time? I make more than that a month sitting behind a desk. And that's only if you win, you get 5k for 2nd and nothing for anything after that. Other organisations pay athletes MUCH more than ADCC just to show, why doesn't ADCC? Isn't it supposed to be the Olympics of grappling?
Secondly, his criticism of CJI funding. ADCC is funded by Arab Oil Barons who live like kings in their own country at the expense of others (and in some people's opinion also poison the planet Earth). I guarantee you that these people are obstansibly less moral than any investor in the CJI, short of Al Capone.
Thirdly, Mo has stated multiple times that ADCC is not profitable, and loses money every event (which no one actually believes). Well, if that's the case, and if these investors have so much money, why not throw some extra money to the athletes, like CJI is doing? After all, it's non profitable anyway, what does it matter if these billionaires lose another 500k giving out fair pay to athletes? At least CJI is open about being non-profit and is doing lots of work for charity, which ADCC isn't.
Fourthly, the LIE that just because you win ADCC means that the money will come 2nd hand, or that you become an instagram megastar, is just a hilarious and disingenuous way of excusing their cheapness. Giancarlo, Ffion, etc.. Aren't multimillionaires (or probably even normal millionaires), and haven't exploded in terms of popularity after their wins. They also have integrity of character, and are unwilling to act like fools in public, unlike Gordon, Galvao and Meregali, for fame.
Fifthly, CJI HAD to put their event on the same day as ADCC, if they didn't, they'd have no leverage over ADCC to make changes. I heard that even ADCC is even paying athletes to show now, isn't that a good change?! Isn't this a tacit acknowledgement that this is working?
Sorry Xande, but I think you're out of touch.
exactly
You're on point. But even moreso. There's no money in this shit even at the highest level unless you're on that gordon level. Fighters, even at the highest level are almost always broke af
Yup.
I won’t name drop but years ago I went to worlds and after I was eating with my team. Guy I was sitting next to Is arguably one of the biggest names in the sport.
When we were talking about what we were going to order, I accidentally caught a glance of his phone screen and he was checking his bank account.
There was just under $600 in his account. It was weird.
Very brilliant exposé
@@JSMinstantcoaching huge honour for me
Xande's take on CJI was atrocious. This man is talking in circles. Virtue signaling hard over here. And him saying wrestling isn't a rich industry sealed it for me. He doesn't know what he thinks he knows (i.e., the Dunning-Kruger effect).
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There’s no wrong timing when needed change comes.
Plus if you win the "world championship of grappling ", you still have to deliver grub hub
What a shit take haha
Adcc its already paying a bit more to the athletes, rising a bit its a step....then looks like craig jones is kind of accomplishing what he said... And always a change its gonna make people against and on the side. But the first step its already made it, someone did it....some has to do it.... Not against. If on the future the athletes on grappling get better paid nobody is going to complain no?
Interesting how Xande just doesnt understand economics
Craig is making the landscape better for all Bjj athletes, ADCC has started to bring more money to the athletes only after CJI picked up speed so the proof is already available. And Craig is saying athletes don’t have the leverage to negotiate for money when all the stats are hidden, the UA-cam thing is just helpful for people to know
Initially, as a fan (consumer), I didn't like it. But I realized that the grapplers ("workers") need to do a strike, disrupt the business of ADCC ("of the capitalists") to squeeze out major beneficial concessions. And setting CJI on the same date as ADCC's already produced results, like increasing women's pay.
"It's like IBJJF" So a fucking joke
I can see Xand's view but it only 100% valid if ADCC had been run in a fair and transparent manner but it seems it hasn't, some fighters have been getting under the table appearance payments.
If Craig did it a different weekend then adcc wouldn’t have to change anything. I’m Not sure how so many people don’t seem to understand this.
Right, this will force ADCC to change, how you cant see this is a good thing for the athletes is beyond me, they all still have the choice too, if they want the prestige of ADCC go do that, if you want to go for the million do that, gives them more choices.
Xande, if you were still a competitive top-level grappler, you and your brother would be singing a very different tune.
What a walking contradiction. He is on the adcc payroll 💯
Regardless of what ADCC has done for the sport, it does not make what they’re not doing right. It’s fucken sad that it’s takes Craig to get them to try and make changes when they have been around for a long time. So there is no better time since they had so much time to do something and Craig is all about taking care of the athletes while they aren’t.
The woman are literally making double because of Craig. He’s already increased how much ADCC pay people. Everyone is a winner here. More matches for fans, more pay for ADCC athletes, even more pay to show up and win for CJI Athletes.
#1 this is business, nobody owes nobody. #2, how are athletes ever gonna really get paid without something like this. Alot of fighters will make nothing but will dedicate their whole lives to training. The fact a hot dog eating champ can make more than an ADCC champ is bad. What Craig is doing is possibly changing the future of the sport for the athletes for the better. ADCC will die possibly if they dont start really paying their athletes. These guys are the best in the world, a medal is great but wont help you in the real world when you need to take care of your family.
What i took away from this was. He didnt get paid well coming up and now he doesnt want others to benefit like he didnt.....aaaaaand The CJI is raining on his hall of fame speech 😂
Adcc points system blows. The shiek can sale off one of his Falcons. Adcc was a play toy to watch people for a few shieks to gamble and watch people fight for crumbs.
CJJ blows adcc out of the water
If you believe in business the you believe in the free market.
Right?.....right????
Xande clearly missed the point or he's just trying to defent the status quo.
Dang. I liked him, too. A hero of the sport. It's a shame he doesn't want us to get paid to compete. Real sad.
He doesnt want to get it. Mo just offered 2500 to show up
Yes but …. mo said himself “ do it yourself if you think you can”. 😏 well He got his Wish … and Olympics always treats athletes right too but it’s a Show not about $ … these athletes aren’t promised seminars or $ off ADCC Wins don’t = millions unless you have Fan Base • Gordon Don’t Need $ these big names won’t need $ but other ppl need $ to feed family - ADCC could do 10k each person and 100 k each bracket but they spending $ on fireworks and Giant Arena but claim “ I’m not making $ “. CJI is doing the right thing dude just admits “ I paid 2 mill to train and do events I’m not making $ back “. Well CRAIG IS trying to change that shit and you’re shittin on it ..
There is nowhere near the same amount of draw that BJJ has when we talk about other sports. So comparing it to Karate or Wrestling makes little sens.
Hysterical. He understands why he's done it and then argues he should have done it another weekend. ADCC gold 2024 is worth leas than 22, the bronze guys are moving up from trials. CJI 24 is worth more than ADCC 24. Period
A stunningly bad take 🤦♂️
By definition adcc is not treating the athletes correctly if the top prize winner gets 10,000 and they pay 2 million for an arena, and they pay the bongo drum players more than 10k. I like xande, but that makes no sense. They don't pay the athletes enough, they insult the athletes with the amount they pay them, the athletes put their lives on the line and most of them make no money. Craig Jones is basically right and I don't mind if he makes adcc suffer. ADCC will become better based on the CJI's competition.
Xande is an established bjj icon, so he has forgotten what it is like for the young bjj star who can beat everybody but has to deliver pizzas to keep a roof over his head.
Viajou bonito. Doidera ein
Dudes totally missing the point
Xande coming across as salty and contradicts himself a bunch of times.
What he's upset about was he competed his whole life for the achievements alone and barely got paid, now the scene is undermining the organizations he built his legacy in (IBJJF and ADCC) and pay is going to go way up across the board. This is probably just the start of his bitter feelings.
Xande's take is so wrong here. Just because grapplers in America dont get well compensated doesn't mean they dont deserve it. Top division Sumo wrestlers make six figure salaries plus bonuses. ADCC has long been funded by shady middle eastern guys. Why criticize CJI for having an unknown backer? Really seems like he's immature and pissed that some guys will become millionaires on the his "big day"
PLEASE STOP COMPARING ADCC TO THE OLYMLICS IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO OLYMPIC ATHLETES WHO TRAIN CLEAN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES COMPARED TO THE STEROIDS OF JIU JITSU ADCC
Most all top performers in the olympics use PEDs it is just as steroid ridden
😂😂 you think Olympic athletes “train clean their entire lives”?
@@Villanforsome you think adcc is the Olympics of grappling ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Explain how it isn't
Clean?
Insane take because other martial arts are hyper centralized and athletes don’t get paid our sport should also not get payed how dare guys want money and to do something different
Craig built his old platform ya 🤡
He’d wouldn’t have the name he has without ADCC, that’s the point he was making
@@Sorted906 another 🤡
@@888DFINITY Nope, it’s called a rational explanation, use your brain cells 😁
@@Sorted906 awww saw 🐱😂
@@888DFINITY 😘😂
Legend, but he does not get it He is not from this new wave era of grapplers. Respect Xande, but you are not from this generation. Where there are promotional fights, UFC etc etc. Why would you do four superfight, earn nothing from it, and possible lose the interest to do those fight in any other promotion that actually pay you. Respect for the legend, but hes wrong about CJI.
Massively off the mark on this
Love this guy but damn, the shit that is coming out of his mouth is toxic. Rich sport? Then why haven’t they taken care of all the athletes? People have life’s to live after competition and in between.
Somebody go educate Xande.....SMH.....I'm one minute in and I'm done listenting to this nonsense.