SIMGOT EA500LM vs EA500 vs MOONDROP KATO!!! How did they compare? Watch and find out!!!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- This was going to be a normal review video of the new EA500LM, but it just kinda organically flowed into a comp video. Hope you like it. I learned a LOT from the LM and from the OG EA500 and of course my sentimental favorite KATO had some things to say as well. Oh and I did NOT end up nozzle rolling for this video. Each was tested using their "stock" components... aside from the ear tips. You will see why in the video! Enjoy!
Links to purchase at Linsoul Audio (Affiliate):
EA500LM
www.linsoul.co...
EA500
www.linsoul.co...
Moondrop Kato (if you want to go old school)
www.linsoul.co...
Ps. Thank you to Timmy Vangtan @Gizaudio for providing the graphs on squig.link
I have the OG and the LM. I’ll pick the new LM all day every day. It is really seductive with its polish and dynamics. I had the first reaction you had about the LM. Excellent comparisons and review.
Thank you! Took a minute, but I got it! ☮️
You nailed it sir, better than the OG, better than the Kato (1 that i enjoy as well), we'll be talking about this one in December. Thanks for the review and comparison.
Thank you! It was definitely an eye opening experience, especially since my first impression of the LM was not very positive. Turns out it absolutely is a great set!
holly cow! I had same feeling as you)) received them and was disappointed. kinda)) but warming and nozzle changing helped a lot.
I agree about metal measuring - if it plays metal it plays almost everything.
tool and Mastodon is the most favourites bands of myself btw))
Thanks for review. I've got Kato which i prefer more then my variations and ej07m kinda lava. I was thinking about LM and after your review im going to buy em.
500lm are my best balanced set. Embrace that open detailed and resolute treble. Stock tips are great. Eq +3 around 300hz for a little more heft in the notes. I pretty much eq everything as you can only do so much with physical tuning and I'm not turning down a free performance boost. I also have the Zeos render tips and can't find anything they sound good on. They change the sound sure but make better? Nope.
I really like the LM too. I will try your suggestion on Peace EQ & USB player pro. Appreciate that information! I’ve “grown out” of my Render tips. They are still on a few sets, but only due to fit issues I was having. Now that I’ve figured out my left ear canal is L and my right is M, I’ve made adjustments and ordered opposites of what I had.
Love the Dunu "buckets" (and the EA500LM)... But I wish the buckets had more sizes (ML and MS) because they need very precise fitting for long sessions (and I've discovered my right ear canal is a little wider than my left). Bucket size M is too small for my left ear, but L creates a little too much pressure after a while and starts to hurt.
Edit - I wrote the above just before hearing you say that your ear canal sizes differ.
If you are in contact with Dunu, please can you let them know we need more sizes. I've already written about this in the Dunu Discussion thread on Head-fi
Yes. I’m the opposite. It’s my left ear canal that’s slightly larger. The s&s mediums are simply too small. I have to use a L on the right and an XL on the left. Dunu would definitely benefit from more sizes on these as a bad seal is disastrous for them. Wish I was “in contact” with them, but hey, it’s worth a try!
Thank you for this review. You are making an already massive impact in this community! I had always wanted to spend on the Kato but I couldn't afford them. I am glad I can get better for cheaper if I decide to buy the LM.
Thank you for not throwing everyone into the 'I can get all the iems I want' bucket. This hobby can be expensive really fast for people at lower incomes around the world.
The Dunu buckets🤣 are a life saver. Helped the fit and comfort of most of my iems. Thank you for your contributions once again!
Well it’s early yet, but I think that’s just about the nicest thing anyone outside of my family has said to me all year. Thank you. Wow. This hobby is a bottomless rabbit hole and I’ve definitely jumped into it without much caution. But I recognize that and I’ve stemmed the flow of IEMs flying at me from mainland China until I get caught up - review-wise and financially. At some point I will get a TOTL set so that I have a “reference”, but my focus is on value. There’s a ton to be had for under or slightly over $100. And $75 and $50 and $20-$30. There really isn’t any need to overspend, especially if you shouldn’t. I definitely did, so if I can help other people to avoid the rabbit hole, then I’m doing exactly what I set out to do. It’s a wonderful hobby, with a ton of great options out there and you don’t need a kilobuck set, or 50 different budget sets to get full enjoyment out of it. Thank YOU for the kind words and encouragement. And don’t worry, even though I’m on a buying hiatus, I’ve got plenty of sets still to review. So I’ll keep going! ☮️
I like tuning on kato but even I prefer my sonus over the kato. Kato was good for its time but the competition has made it a relic now
Agree on the Sonus. I’ve been delinquent on reviewing that set. Completely underrated.
Artti T10 vs Simgot EA 500LM ?
Doesn't care about planar or DD
Need to know in terms of sound signature, musicality and tonality please
Am sensitive to treble and i don't like too much bass
Artti t10 with a dac amp dongle at minimum. The amp is mandatory, the t10 would sound lacking without it.
I’ve told myself that my next iem will be either a Planar or Multi Driver and as of now I’ve narrowed down my options to NICEHCK F1 pro or NICEHCK NX7. Which one will be more technically better?
They’re on pretty equal footing in techs. The F1Pro is the more balanced and cohesive of the two. The nx7mk4’s bass hits a little harder. I’d personally go with the versatility of the F1 Pro even though the nx7mk4 is a ton of fun.
@@BassDad8 F1 it is
Great review! I wonder which is closest to your tonality preference, Kato or Ulim or T10? To me it kinda sounds like one of those hits for you, like 7Hz Sonus hits for me. Or maybe it's just that first love magic kinda deal for both of us? :D
In order of preference it’s T10, ULIM and then Kato. But I like the natural tonality of the Galileo too, so…
Okay now I gotta break out my Sonus again… been a minute
And holy crap. I took the balanced cable off and put the single ended ribbon cable it came with on, and some render tips and wow! Good call!
For reference, where would the LM have ended up in your top 2023 list?
Yes. It would have replaced the OG EA500. For sure.
@BassDad8 Ahh I was wondering if it would have went up the ladder at all. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@ramyahoo It would have retaken its spot at #5 over the NX7mk4 in that ranking list.☮
Thank you for your content. What's your opinion on ea500lm vs t10 pls. Love from china
Depends on how much treble energy and extension you like. The EA500LM excels at that, but it might be too bright depending on your tolerance. The T10 on the other hand is much more smooth and natural sounding in the upper frequencies. It doesn’t seem to lack detail either. So I think they’re n pretty equal footing, but they differ in tonality. Which one is preferred is definitely a personal choice 😀☮️
@@BassDad8 thx mate for taking ur time, help a lot！😇
Any time! Love from the US!
In the end, did you find the LM suitable for listening to metal? Mastodon and Tool are great references cuz I'm mostly interested in this kind of music
This model has just stuck in my mind as the best value IEM in the context of maximisng performance without overspending. Guys like HBB and Jay Audio are really impressed by it and rank it as a best budget set. I would appreciate your comment on that in the context of heavy music. I want to enjoy my Meshuggah to the fullest for a reasonable price. I'm also planning to use just my Xiaomi Mi A1 phone with the Poweramp app, no dongles, dacs or amps. Is this an adequate plan?
They have to at least play Mastodon and Tool well for me to recommend them. And they do. Really well. Enjoy em!
@@BassDad8 thank you! What about my second comment? (I replied to the first one)
I found that melo death-black metal and similar are sound better on the EA500.
@@tkachenko9584 I’m sorry I missed your second comment. I can’t say I disagree with those guys regarding the LM and it does play metal well!
It turned out that I bought an EA500LM and my daughter an EA500. I listen to mainly extreme metal and she listens to indie rock, alternative music etc. Listened together on 2 players Hyby R6 and Hybi R3II. And by mutual agreement we exchanged headphones. I heard that the EA500 have a more dynamic and spacious sound when the guitar riff scratches your back and the sound from the drums flies directly into your brain)).
If you go for the balanced nozzle for each set both will be sillibant. The lm had more depth and resolution. The red silver lm nozzle is the most balanced but a bit of sillibance will show up on songs. Is the lm driver better than ea500. Yes but if you like a close sound stage the ea500 is a really good option. If you want nonsillbance go with thieaudio iems. Are the ea500 and lm good iems, yes but you have to accept sillibance. But if you cannot and really should not, they are total shxt set. So I am on the border they can be good but the sillibance they can be total shxt. i have over a dozen chifi iems and only s12 and ea500 have been sillibant. Is it acceptable with its treble tuning..reality no way. But thats the trend in an over saturated chifi sound.
Very well put! Totally agree on your assessment. I can handle the sibilant nature of both the ea500 and the LM. I do think the LM handles it better though. The only thing that really turns me off regarding treble is if there is not sufficient bass response to balance it. Or if it’s completely over the top, which some sets are… I was hoping ChFi was headed to a more natural sounding, polished place, but we will see…
what ear tips do you recommend generally for iems and specifically from kiwi ears melody(v-shape planar) ? i am looking for comfort for long hours and good sound quality?
The first that come to mind are the Divinus Velvet tips. They should do well with the Quartet I think as they are wider bore. But I will also add the Tri Clarion tips (rec’d by Hyjinx87), which I literally have in right now and damn are they comfy. Really livening up the triple DD Artti R1 as well. Couple of ideas for you that are definitely comfy and sound great. ☮️
@@BassDad8 funny enough i have the tri clarions i like the sound but not very comfortable, what size do you wearing now?
thanks for this
Aune Jasper vs EA500/LM vs Kato. Where does the old Aune stand among them?
So since I can’t comp them in person to the Aune Jasper, I went to squig.link and used Aftersound’s graphs to overlay all 3. The LM has the most bass of the 3. The Jasper and Kato are almost identical until you reach the treble extension. The Jasper has a pretty serious dip around 10K but rebounds around 14. It is a very curious tuning and actually overlaying all 3 kind of shows you the evolution that general tuning has gone through over the past several years. But I can’t hear it and graphs only take you so far. If the driver quality is as good as the marketing states, Im guessing it would hold up well against the two “newer” sets. But if we are going on bass response, the LM has the clear advantage. And the quality of its bass is very good as well. Wish I could be more helpful…
@@BassDad8 Thank you so much for your efforts and detailed analysis of the graphs. I bought it recently I am just hoping I can enjoy the tuning for day to day use with my messed up multi genre library.
I appreciate you 🙏
Hi.. sir can you suggest ear tips for 500lm that makes sound some more warmer... Or any other way to gain warmth sound
Yes. Definitely. So I think your best bet for ear tips would be the Final Type E, or Divinus Velvet. The type E has quite a small bore, so if the two, I think I’d take the velvet tips, but both will warm them up a bit. The best mod for warmth and taking the edge off the treble without sacrificing performance are the bronze Moondrop Kato nozzles. They can be purchased on their own for about $12. For me, they made the biggest difference and I use them with the LM 100% of the time now. That mod combined with the Divinus tips… yes that is my top recommendation. Hope this helps! ☮️
@@BassDad8 oh thank you so much... This is my biggest fear that you remove... I was worried about thin sound of 500lm.. it's really halp... Thanks again.. from Pakistan... I m just telling you BC you know your reach...
I m out peace be happy 💐😊
@@KashanArtist awesome! Thank you for letting me know! Be well!
Hi .. sorry to bother you, just tell me Kato nozzles have foam in it ??? I buy as you suggested, for mod the simgot EA500lm , but nozzles don't have foam in it.. is it ok?? Still waiting my LM's.
Hi .. finally I received ea500lm.. Kato nozzles work nicely... Thanks for suggestions and help 💐 GOD bless you 🙂
watching this with my em6l. Should I purchase ea500LM..?
I don't have the em6l to comp, but from what I have seen/heard it is the more balanced of the two and has a less spicy treble response. The LM is at the very edge of my treble tolerance, as is the Ulim, but I still enjoy both sets. I think that the consensus is that the em6l is the "better" of the two sets, but that depends on your treble preference and who you ask. I kinda wish I had both of those and not the EA500 OG and the LM for a bit more diversity, but that train has sailed...
It is nice to be able to mess around with the three included nozzles on the LM as well as the Kato Brass and Steel nozzles tho. So it has that going for it as well. The Kato nozzles can be picked up on HiFiGo and other webstores for around $12.
the ea500 have more details to listen to music right?
This or IE200 for the same price? I am sensitive to Higher pitch.
Oof. I don’t know if either set is gonna work for you. Something with a more natural timbre like the Letshuoer Galileo might be a better option. The ie200 is pretty treble oriented as well as being dry and clinical.
@@BassDad8 Thanks Man
Or the Tangzu x Divinus Fudu. That might work too. In the same general price range. I could pick up the ie200 for around $100 (work discount), but I just can’t get excited about it. Too many other IEMs ahead of it on my list…
@@BassDad8 Yeah so many choices at the same price 😭😭. I choose SENN because their distinctive look and felt for 100 dollar maybe it's really good value, but now I am rethinking everything haha.
Which eartips should I buy first for my LM?
Definitely something wide bore. Dunu S&S tips (they run small so order a size larger than your usual), Divinus Velvet, Azla Sednaearfit Xelastic, or JVC Spiral Dots. Any of those should set you up nicely ☮️
@@BassDad8hey, sorry, lm ate going to be my first iems, so I have no clue about difference in bore size. Could u please briefly explain the difference? I have like limited budget, so I found tangzu sancai wide bore tips on ali, They're cheap and have good reviews on them, do u think they'll be fine with LM?
oh man, i am just in a decision paralysis now. Like you my first IEM with decent money is the blue KATO, i decided on ARTTI T10 as an upgrade/sidegrade after your review, but realised they are not available in my region >_< so F1 Pro it was.
so what i gathered from your reviews is that ea500LM or F1 Pro are an upgrade to KATO, while at the same time costing way less than KATO. Then when i think about spending as much as kato the only options available in my region are Aful Performer 5, Chopin or Quintet. So now i am confused whether i sould spend less or more for an upgrade.
If i decide to spend more how much better is it going to be %wise compared to spending less. Also if i do spend more; out of chopin or quintet which would you recommend as a complement to kato in terms of sound signature (not considering performer 5 since you may not have reviewed it.)
Also since you already own kato, what would be the reason to justify buying an Ea500LM or would you buy one of the planers instead ?
lastly would rather buy 2 of the cheap ones rather than spending more instead ? if yes what would those be.
Sorry if its a bit long ended. hope you can provide some insights.😔
Okay so I’ve been exactly where you are. Which is why I own so many freaking IEMs. lol. Don’t do that!
Let’s start with a process of elimination. You can’t get the T10 so that’s out. The Kato as much as I like it is now pretty much obsolete, so that’s out. The Quintet is not as good as the Chopin, so that’s out. I don’t have the Performer 5, so I have no opinion on it. That leaves you with 3 IEMs to pick from. EA500, F1Pro, and Chopin. From there it’s going to be personal preference. The EA500LM leans bright, but has good bass to balance it. The F1Pro is a warm neutral, balanced and fairly natural sounding for a planar, and the Chopin is your true reference set, but with a lot of energy and dynamics. Price aside it’s the Chopin. My preference for an all rounder is the F1Pro. If you like thumpy bass & pretty bright treble it’s the Simgot. If it were me? I’d get the two less expensive ones to have some variety, but if you just want to walk away with one set from this and not have to worry about FOMO, get Timmy’s Chopin. From a technical standpoint it’s the best iem I own. From a personal enjoyment aspect, it’s second only to the T10 which you cannot get. But like I said, if it were me, I’d get the two less expensive options. And of those two the F1 Pro wins for me. Hope this helps!
@@BassDad8 thanks, for clarifying, it did help. Waiting for your next review of the triple dd iem. 🙂
EA1000 when on sale
what about ea500lm vs em6l ?
Well I have two issues with that . I don’t have the em6l and I was just doing a little single DD comp. I’ve heard many good things about it though. At some point I’ll probably have to pick it up… and the 1000 Fermat and the 2000 and the EW200 and so on. They’re a company on a roll. But until I get to the point where companies are sending me products to review, there are simply too many IEMs out there for me to actually purchase And I do want to stay married lol.
Try TRI Clarion eartips sir
I’m on it!
Got em! They are awesome!
@@BassDad8 yo sir glad you liked it
What laptop is it?
Asus Zenbook. Nothing crazy, but it is an EVO i7 and has an OLED touchscreen. About a year and a half old now. I love it. I don’t game on it though. Graphic card is shxt
They should've reduced the treble, instead they boosted bass to make it almost V.
Subbed 🎉
That’s awesome! Thank you!
Ea500lm va Chopin
I’ll go with the stock red gasket nozzles and do an a/b with the Chopin today and give you my thoughts. I have really been enjoying the LM with the Kato Bronze nozzles lately, but I think stock is more important for the comp
@@BassDad8 thanks
Eagerly waiting for your reply
@@shantanusahu9168 It is not as clear cut as I thought, but only because of a major modification to the LM. Stock vs Stock the Chopin is smoother, more resolving and more detailed, especially in the treble. That is vs the LM with the Red/Silver Nozzle. But I knew that was not all the LM had to offer. I had previously put the Moondrop Kato bronze nozzles in and the difference is remarkable. Gone is the sibilance. Gone is the little bit of shout in the upper mids. The LM becomes something greater than it was even at its best with that nozzle swap. The sub bass is more extended and the mid bass is more present as well. I don't know man. I feel like if I had to choose between the two, I would take the Chopin. But for $90 for the LM + $13 for the Kato nozzles, + $9 for the TRI Clarion tips I have on them... That's $112 for something I feel is nearly, and I do mean nearly as good as the Chopin.
@@BassDad8 so insightful, you have so much information
One last question,I think you can answer it best
Is Chopin worth the money over pa 02 ?
You were using eq wrong! What you did with the rolling of all the things, lol, that's the same way to use eq. Mods are cool you have something permanent but eq opens up tuning options to another level. Especially when you are stuck in budget world. I find gems with good drivers then I can mod if needed to in order to tweak the small nuances. Then you can tube with Eq to different IEMS with same driver configuration. It's amazing what you can do with a $5-20 iem!!