I don't know what it is, but somehow Dinosaurs are surprisingly effective casual archetypes in both Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic, and I am totally here for it because they're cool as fuck. Two of the people in my group like politics and control. Myself and another like to break out decks like these and just try to fight everyone all at once.
@@Carwinley Dinosaurs were tier 1 in Yu-Gi-Oh for a while. Dinosaurs have perhaps the single strongest support card ever printed in that game too in Miscellaneousaurus
@@Y00bi I'm pretty sure they were considered rogue at best; the incredible thing about Dinos was just how *affordable* they were - the Structure Deck has everything you need for a competent Dino deck, the rest is just gravy. Unfortunately, we've since had Drytron, Tearlaments, Kashtira, so I stand by my assessment of Dinos as a "Casual" archetype - they were certainly something to consider the possibility of facing in the meta around 2020 (Master Rule '5'), whether Rogue or tiered, but nowadays aren't going to see competitive success.
I met my first fellow Isshin Player a few weeks ago at my LGS. We were both shocked to see an actual Isshin player in real life, both of us never having met another. We were both shocked to see how differently we had gone. His deck was a themed like a go tall voltron deck with tons of equipments, auras and supporting creatures. Mine is a Monarch themed Samurai/Dragon deck with lots of big Myojin, spirit dragons and all the Mardu relevant Samurai, including Konda, Lord of Eiganjo. After our games we sat down for 30 minutes and admired each others piles of cards. I havent seen him since, no one remembers him, and now im convinced he was but a spectral, fleeting spirit.
This has to be a conspiracy, I've never seen an Isshin player either. Someone is trying to gaslight the community into thinking it's a popular commander for some reason
vince got his data from edhrec. edhrec is totally fucked up when it comes to its data collection. just check decklists linked to those popular commanders. it counts the same decklists multiple times even if they differ only by few cards and come from the same account. also people theorycrafting a deck does equal the representation of actual plays. i have a few isshin lists but i have never played any of them. we have only one person actually playing isshin in a group of almost 50 people. this means one isshin deck in a few hundreds decks. i expect this is more accurate depiction. people just like to build isshin because it's interesting open ended comnander and samurai is considered cool.
It’s funny you mention how different your decks were, because my roast to isshin players is that “they all think that they have the secret sauce tech that everyone else is sleeping on” But I can’t judge; my pet deck is Alexander clamilton with the the full text basic lands.
During the summer of 2020 I was playing on SpellTable against a Korvold player who was so stoned he could barely speak, could barely play. He still won.
>Mentions how it sucks that Riku of the Two Relfections is power crept out and forgotten. >Wizards gives someone a free preview of a new Riku that is exactly the type of commander that Vince complains about. Hilariously relevant.
I was confused by that too but then I was even more confused when I checked edhrec and every commander in the top 20 was mentioned except Nekusar but I think thats just because it has switched with Arcades since he recorded this
I also have never played against a Isshin deck. I suspect that what has happened is that everyone and their mother made an Isshin deck on Archidekt and Moxfield and whatever when he first came out, they poke around at it every few sets, and they never bring it to the table because they don't want to keep track of all the doubled triggers.
Pretty much nails what happened to me, it can easily turn into what is basically an Auriela/many extra combats deck and is not all that interesting of a mardu commander.
@@drmajalis1583 it’s nothing to be ashamed of. There’s a good side and a bad side to everything. Every card’s gonna have hate I’m a dirty elf main player. I love elves.
Commie Commander here, Love it. You should do this every, single time new commanders like this are released. I feel bad for making a budget jodah deck a couple years ago for christmas event. ;D
My buddy has a krenko deck ive used muxus to win 4 of the 6 games i borrowed his deck still havent lost with krenko but muxus takes me an entire rotation of the table to set up properly with goblin grandee and what not its a fun but unfun card at the same time
Isshin was actually the first commander I liked enough to continue tweaking my deck with him. I would assume he’s incredibly easy to abuse with certain hyper specific attack triggers, but piling a bunch of equipment onto him is just nourishing for the soul.
Please keep doing this. I was feeling superior, because I've got no commanders on this list, but I have two in the next 10 and need taking down a peg or two
As a self proclaimed nooblett, i dont have an issue with a counterspell or target destroy. I have issues with the "you cant play the game" decks. Counter 3 spells in 3 turns im out. I sat down to play, not hear no on repeat. If that was the case id ask my wife for some "fun time" over and over.
The only one I have is Voja, but that's only because one of my buddies said you HAD to run both tribes to have him be good. First game Wolf tribal was a 1v3 before turn 5.
I was typing out a quote from this video to send to a friend to get him to watch it, then there was another and another, and another. If I wanted a highlight reel of quotes from this, I’d need the full transcript. Well done good sir.
Yuriko is my favourite go-to for whenever people are asking for more high-level games. Of all the CEDH staples, Yuriko is the kind of immediately effective gameplan I like running. You don't need a whole lot of maintenance or specific pieces to make her work and that's how I like it. When the chips are down and pod tells me "I'm going for the throat", I don't want to wrestle with my own deck. I can leave complicating my gameplan to my opponents. Plus, with the amount of evasive bodies and potent draw-power in Dimir colours, you can just swap a couple of pieces, switch your commander to Satoru Umezawa and there you go, you have a casual build for nights you wanna play jank for fun.
@@TeamKatastrophe It's just the nature of the format, it's better to have something for every game. Usually I tend to roll up with more than 1 deck anyway, because vibes are different with different pods. Don't wanna get caught with my pants down or catch someone else like that either. Most of my decks aren't the strongest, because I don't put too much money into Magic at one time and I'm just not super good at deckbuilding anyway. Yuriko is my one deck, where I've put all the stops to make it strong, because there are going to be times when people just ask if they can go all-out or try some cEDH for a day.
Haha. I remember building Yuriko back when she came out, because the card got me excited to collect a bunch of ninjas, and she ended up being my very first tribal general, as I couldn't get caught up on dragons enough to care at the time, with zombies and elves looking boring. Now I have 3 different elf decks, with a currently unfinished and unsleeved Viconia (Drow Apostate)//Raised by Giants brew on the way. I figured people get targeted for playing Lathril, so I put her in the 98 instead, and I get to focus on a different method of running Golgari elves. MonoG Ezuri ended up in the 99 of my Varis (Silverymoon Ranger) dungeons (and elves).
Gishath was my first commander ever. As a kid I was a huge dino-fanatic, so how could I not build a deck that appeals to my inner child? Love that you deemed it significant and relevant enough to put on this list. Thank you.
My favorite commander is Pippin guard of the citadel. No one expects him to kick their ass but then he does and its the funniest thing ever. Nothing better than giving protection from creatures to a body of knowledge while I have 50 cards in hand and swinging for the win. Best deckbuilding you can do is using your commander as a boost to your main strat rather than as the lynchpin of it.
@mopanda81 nah the trick is to always have a bigger threat/problem which for pippin is not that hard. Also lots of protective effects like mother of runes and counterspells. It also helps to have that ward 1 as it just further wastes resources so people are even less likely to target him. He's got some awesome wincons tied to him but the deck has a lot more wincons than just him. As i said he is not the lynchpin of the deck, hes just a great effect i can have from turn 2.
@@Zarbon000 Oh no just saying "popular on EDHREC" means they made a list somewhere, not that they played it. I think it's just a Commander with a more fun than average thought experiment brew
@@Zarbon000 I'd say to the contrary, Prosper opened a new door with monetizing impulse, for which there are SO many pieces out there and every set adds more as it's such a generic thing to do. It is a fun deck, but as pointed out in the video, can make for some long turns.
In total there is one in here that I want to build and one maybe. I always had a thing going on with angels, and Giada was the first time WotC printed something that made it worth playing so it would be neat to have even if I will likely keep my Azami as my forever pet deck and Mr. House and an Elas il-Kor/Lurrus build as my main ongoing passion projects. The Go-Shintai is made more boring by generic enchantment synergy, true, but building around the sheer jank of the OG shrines just seems incredibly funny to me.
The Edgar Markov kebab bit is so viscerally familiar. It's almost like that exact thing happened to me in a distant dream I had after passing out in a game against 3 other Edgar decks. I was piloting Edgar as well.
I played shrines before go-shintai but I can honestly agree that while the concept of a shrine that makes shrines made the deck actually playable, it definitely feels lazy. I love my go-shintai deck but it's very linear. Ramp to go-shintai, play draw shrine, play more shrines, hope for onboard clear, OTK with extra triggers and turns. Essentially, it's not a grind them down deck with mediocre shrines, it's a shrine enchantment tribal turbo deck.
Y'know, it makes me happy that Henzie doesn't show up. He's popular enough to beat most objectively inferior Commander's that don't say "Blitz a thing", but Hipster enough to fly under the radar. Jundom roolz!
Henzie is my favorite commander to actually play, he has multiple lines, some clever stuff to do, and words on the card that discourage other players to immediately kill him as soon as he enters.
totaly agree, my absolute favorite, if you like to play creatures, henzie is your man, the perfect part is, you can build EVERY theme with creatures around him. Dragons? easy. Aristocrat, perfect. Cheat out stuff, no problem. Going wide with tokens, he will do it. Chuck all commanders you normaly play as his followers, works great. It`s just hilarious, you could get into each match with a different strategy and it wil work decent. And screw blue and white, Henzie is my perfect commander
I think the only reason I'm not bored of my Korvold deck is because I specifically built it to avoid treasure tokens as much as possible and instead it's filled with "value when this dies"-creatures and cards like Demonic Lore that have big ETBs, but equally big downsides if they aren't removed. "Korvold the sac outlet" is a much more fun deck to play imho than "Korvold the coin eater".
Pretty fair judgments. I have a few commanders here. I still play them primarily because I'm too busy to build new decks with commanders I'm actually interested in
I feel very good about my Atraxa deck now - I made sure it has no +1/+1 counters, planeswalkers or infect in it. Everyone expects that and so I run all sorts of other silly counters on stuff.
I've played decks for 6 of these. I've taken apart Edgar, Krenko, and Shorikai. I have Prosper and Wilhelt precons that I've upgraded but don't play anymore despite still being sleeved up. I have a budget (around $25 usd according to Moxfield) Jodah deck that I enjoy in moderation. My favorite deck of all time is my Miirym clones deck.
I do have an Esika deck, but every other card is Unfinity dice-rolling and attractions, and I plugged in the card-for-card mana base of the Pain-bow precon to slow it down.
I haven't seen anyone make a johda deck the way I did, I built it with the concept of all the "partner with" creatures from the commander precons and battle bond sets
I think something that would be cool is to see you do a top 10 (or 20) commanders based by set (past sets to current) I personally love your "tounge in cheek" quite frankly, frank way of reviewing cards!
Me and my brothers started the same time in Ravnica returned. I got the Gruul riot deck, and he got the azorius detained deck. I still have Vietnam PTSD from that.
Tfw you manage to escape the roast because your commander isnt popular enough, but only because no one wants to welcome you to their table for playing Eriette of the Charmed Apple or Xanathar, Guild Kingpin
My prismatic bridge deck is a Superfriends decck I call super jank because I just shoved in a bunch of proliferate random planeswalkers and extra upkeep cards
The owners and regulars at my LGS were only able to scrounge up one copy of Isshin between the lot of them to lend someone for his mardu samurai deck for standard. wouldn't be surprised if that was the only copy of him in the country.
The reason why I don't play any popular commanders is that the deck building experience is the same, often with all of a certain cards in a commander deck being the same, I like commander's like oskar rubbish reclaimer as he does something that doesn't seem powerful but can ignore timing restrictions, so cool!
I'm with you on Isshin decks. Never seen one but keep hearing about them. Conversely, everyone I know has or regularly plays against Jon Irenicus but no list
It's a very fun commander to brew around, I started with a samurai tribal and ended up with 6 different builds (samurai tribal, Voltron, ups all myriad, everything is goaded, 1v1 budget and just high power staples) I ended up building only the last 2 and I'm pretty happy, I might end up building the others just to be able to play him on casual tables
Glad the worst I can accused of being is boring with my Giada deck... I had to build her, though, because my baby's first attempt at building a commander deck back in 2013 was trying to make Mikaeus the Lunarch angels and knights deck. It.... was terrible. But after Giada was announced (and shortly after Sidar Jibari) I had to build both of them for the nostalgia... and because of all the good knights and angels still in my collection.
I tend to stay away from popular things and don't have any of these commanders. The only one that I have is Giada, but she's in a Sephara deck that was made for my MTG club's budget challenge (with our commanders chosen by someone else). It's kinda hard to make a mono-white flying deck without it having angels in it because they make up the majority of the high end white fliers. Also, my favorite commander right now is Yidaro
I used to pretty exclusively talk crap on this channel. Ive never subbed, you just end up on my feed all the time and you used to bum me out a lot. Today i am here to say: You look very pleasantly healthy, im glad you actually seem happy for once, and your content gave me feelgood vibes today. Some content bleeders run dry, others refine their juice into a sweet cocktail. You apparently bleed absinthe. Stay chill, man. Your blood pressure thanks you.
See this is why i made my angel deck white red so i can do more than sit there. I love attacking twice, and with helm of the host potentially infinite combat with helm of the host
I was tempted to claim that Giada is boring and Sigarda is the 'Spicy' Angel commander, but that's like saying that mayonnaise is spicy in comparison to milk.
The Commander I use for CEDH is Heliod Sun-Crowned. Of course I also have walking ballista and triskelion...and Tudors. Smothering tithe, esper sentinel., and other bs.
Let the anger flow through you Kenobi! Don't hold back so much, This kind of stuff is always fun and I doubt anyone takes it seriously. Bring the heat, we can take it.
I think if they were going to retrain Gishath, they should have had it be like Enraged Focus, where Once each turn if it’s dealt damage you can search your deck for Dinosaurs up to the amount of damage it was dealt and put them onto the battlefield.
I play Atraxa Super Friends and Atraxa Charge Counter Artifacts. One is done to hell and back Infinite times, and one is a little more niche. Some people do Level Up counters, though, and that ACTUALLY sounds creative and unique
@@CptSteiner i think I've come across this card once or twice and considered it, adding white means I can run pollenbright wings amongst other things. It's not a power based decision honestly, considering saprolings is NOT the way to go if you want something powerful lol
@@bryceosborne4357 Oh for sure, purely a suggestion. I wouldn't be playing Xavier for power reasons. I just think he fills a similar role that Atraxa would, but is more fun to play with and is less-commonly played--imo of course. Happy brewing!
Man last time I checked the top 20, Muldrotha and Atraxa were practically tied. They each used to hold the number 1 slot for a couple days or so and then the other one would come up and dethrone it. Now Muldrotha isn’t even in the top 20? What happened?
I’m still keeping my Voja deck together because I’ve wanted a Naya Wolf commander since I cracked a Wolf Pack in Portal Three Kingdoms. If they’d just print an emblem like commander for my favorite tribe I’d swap it out in an instant.
I once bought a Commander Anthology Box that came in to my LGS because I wanted to keep the boring commander players from buying it for thr Atraxa deck and the other rare deck pieces in the box. I've kept those decks together as they were from the box and use them occasionally for fun commander
Pretty sure Yuriko is at least a whole tier higher than Winota in cEDH at this point. Bowmasters meta hurts the little hatebears a lot and Yuriko can always thoracle consult whereas boros has no solid win cons besides combat.
Korvold asks you to sac so many guys you would think he works for Hasbro.
Best comment 🎉😂
Tragedy + time = comedy 😂
@@brendans1983not much time…
Boom. Roasted
Oof
>PK tries to roast Gishath
"It's big. It's dumb"
>Gishath players
"That's... why I'm here"
There is no subtlety to the card.
I don't know what it is, but somehow Dinosaurs are surprisingly effective casual archetypes in both Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic, and I am totally here for it because they're cool as fuck.
Two of the people in my group like politics and control. Myself and another like to break out decks like these and just try to fight everyone all at once.
Easiest way to get a fourth for commander that doesn’t want to play
@@Carwinley Dinosaurs were tier 1 in Yu-Gi-Oh for a while. Dinosaurs have perhaps the single strongest support card ever printed in that game too in Miscellaneousaurus
@@Y00bi I'm pretty sure they were considered rogue at best; the incredible thing about Dinos was just how *affordable* they were - the Structure Deck has everything you need for a competent Dino deck, the rest is just gravy.
Unfortunately, we've since had Drytron, Tearlaments, Kashtira, so I stand by my assessment of Dinos as a "Casual" archetype - they were certainly something to consider the possibility of facing in the meta around 2020 (Master Rule '5'), whether Rogue or tiered, but nowadays aren't going to see competitive success.
I met my first fellow Isshin Player a few weeks ago at my LGS. We were both shocked to see an actual Isshin player in real life, both of us never having met another.
We were both shocked to see how differently we had gone. His deck was a themed like a go tall voltron deck with tons of equipments, auras and supporting creatures. Mine is a Monarch themed Samurai/Dragon deck with lots of big Myojin, spirit dragons and all the Mardu relevant Samurai, including Konda, Lord of Eiganjo.
After our games we sat down for 30 minutes and admired each others piles of cards. I havent seen him since, no one remembers him, and now im convinced he was but a spectral, fleeting spirit.
This has to be a conspiracy, I've never seen an Isshin player either.
Someone is trying to gaslight the community into thinking it's a popular commander for some reason
vince got his data from edhrec. edhrec is totally fucked up when it comes to its data collection. just check decklists linked to those popular commanders. it counts the same decklists multiple times even if they differ only by few cards and come from the same account. also people theorycrafting a deck does equal the representation of actual plays.
i have a few isshin lists but i have never played any of them. we have only one person actually playing isshin in a group of almost 50 people. this means one isshin deck in a few hundreds decks. i expect this is more accurate depiction. people just like to build isshin because it's interesting open ended comnander and samurai is considered cool.
There are literally dozens of us!
this level of disassociation with reality is expected of all people suffering from “isshin is real syndrome”
It’s funny you mention how different your decks were, because my roast to isshin players is that “they all think that they have the secret sauce tech that everyone else is sleeping on”
But I can’t judge; my pet deck is Alexander clamilton with the the full text basic lands.
During the summer of 2020 I was playing on SpellTable against a Korvold player who was so stoned he could barely speak, could barely play. He still won.
😂
lol nice
Luck and fortune are with the stoners xD
that korvold knew that was the only way to play the deck and survive the experience, heavy sedation is necessary
Ooof sounds like a stones nightmare to me, I’d me missing alllll the triggers
>Mentions how it sucks that Riku of the Two Relfections is power crept out and forgotten.
>Wizards gives someone a free preview of a new Riku that is exactly the type of commander that Vince complains about.
Hilariously relevant.
Just be like me and use Riku to make mill vaguely slightly viable
@@katesullivan6949it was funny one time when I triple cast Tasha’s hideous laughter in a riku deck
He talks about how boring Atraxa is, but let's not overlook that #5 was so boring that he didn't even bother to mention it in the video.
I was confused by that too but then I was even more confused when I checked edhrec and every commander in the top 20 was mentioned except Nekusar but I think thats just because it has switched with Arcades since he recorded this
I laughed out loud after Vince said "I shouldn't say daddy either". The look of contemplative disappointment on his face was hilarious.
Putting TheAsianAvenger on blast!! 🤣🤣🤣 He knows what he did…
If casting a Batman parody with Magic creators, Crim is the Joker.
He's da joka babeee@@billberndtson
I also have never played against a Isshin deck. I suspect that what has happened is that everyone and their mother made an Isshin deck on Archidekt and Moxfield and whatever when he first came out, they poke around at it every few sets, and they never bring it to the table because they don't want to keep track of all the doubled triggers.
Pretty much nails what happened to me, it can easily turn into what is basically an Auriela/many extra combats deck and is not all that interesting of a mardu commander.
It’s one of my favourites lol and I play it whenever i can
My favorite Commander is Hogaak, so take that
So fucking based
The internet is going to love Not-So-Pleasant Kenobi, I can just feel it in my Tinybones.
quality banter Vince, I would enjoy about one of these a month :)
As an Isshin player, you’re right I don’t exist….. outside your walls
Kaalia is Alesha but for cowards who think that master of cruelties isn't safe in the graveyard
As an Alesha player... thank you for speaking the truth
@@drmajalis1583 it’s nothing to be ashamed of. There’s a good side and a bad side to everything. Every card’s gonna have hate I’m a dirty elf main player. I love elves.
Someone has been bullied by Kaalia.
I can't believe my boy Riku caught a stray while Kaalia was getting roasted 😂😂😂
The only deck I have built of these is Arcades.
I'm a cool commander player!
Oh god yes. This is exactly what i needed today. Thank you so much the the laughs. This really brightened my day
Commie Commander here,
Love it. You should do this every, single time new commanders like this are released. I feel bad for making a budget jodah deck a couple years ago for christmas event. ;D
Happy to see the EDH roasts return, keep 'em coming!
This gives me life. The only commander deck I've built in the last few years isn't even in the top 1000 on EDHrec.
This is one of my favorite series from you. My favorite commander is Muxus because I was tired of my Krenko being properly removed.
My buddy has a krenko deck ive used muxus to win 4 of the 6 games i borrowed his deck still havent lost with krenko but muxus takes me an entire rotation of the table to set up properly with goblin grandee and what not its a fun but unfun card at the same time
Isshin was actually the first commander I liked enough to continue tweaking my deck with him. I would assume he’s incredibly easy to abuse with certain hyper specific attack triggers, but piling a bunch of equipment onto him is just nourishing for the soul.
it’s objectively better to go wide with multiple creatures with strong attack triggers but isshin voltron is so much funnier
Great vid. I want more roasting of the types of players drawn to these commanders or drawn to the archtypes of decks possible.
Please keep doing this. I was feeling superior, because I've got no commanders on this list, but I have two in the next 10 and need taking down a peg or two
As a self proclaimed nooblett, i dont have an issue with a counterspell or target destroy. I have issues with the "you cant play the game" decks. Counter 3 spells in 3 turns im out. I sat down to play, not hear no on repeat. If that was the case id ask my wife for some "fun time" over and over.
I love fishing counters with an op commander so nxt turn i can drop a ghalta and my entire hand of bic boi dinos :p
The guys over on Distraction Makers call Korvold and Chulane style cards "everything bagel" designs and I think we should all adopt that term.
The only one I have is Voja, but that's only because one of my buddies said you HAD to run both tribes to have him be good. First game Wolf tribal was a 1v3 before turn 5.
I was typing out a quote from this video to send to a friend to get him to watch it, then there was another and another, and another. If I wanted a highlight reel of quotes from this, I’d need the full transcript. Well done good sir.
I didnt know i needed the "new toy for dredge" joke but holy its been awhile and it got me 🤣
Yuriko is my favourite go-to for whenever people are asking for more high-level games. Of all the CEDH staples, Yuriko is the kind of immediately effective gameplan I like running. You don't need a whole lot of maintenance or specific pieces to make her work and that's how I like it. When the chips are down and pod tells me "I'm going for the throat", I don't want to wrestle with my own deck. I can leave complicating my gameplan to my opponents. Plus, with the amount of evasive bodies and potent draw-power in Dimir colours, you can just swap a couple of pieces, switch your commander to Satoru Umezawa and there you go, you have a casual build for nights you wanna play jank for fun.
Nice of you to carry a spare power-down commander
@@TeamKatastrophe
It's just the nature of the format, it's better to have something for every game. Usually I tend to roll up with more than 1 deck anyway, because vibes are different with different pods. Don't wanna get caught with my pants down or catch someone else like that either. Most of my decks aren't the strongest, because I don't put too much money into Magic at one time and I'm just not super good at deckbuilding anyway. Yuriko is my one deck, where I've put all the stops to make it strong, because there are going to be times when people just ask if they can go all-out or try some cEDH for a day.
Haha.
I remember building Yuriko back when she came out, because the card got me excited to collect a bunch of ninjas, and she ended up being my very first tribal general, as I couldn't get caught up on dragons enough to care at the time, with zombies and elves looking boring.
Now I have 3 different elf decks, with a currently unfinished and unsleeved Viconia (Drow Apostate)//Raised by Giants brew on the way.
I figured people get targeted for playing Lathril, so I put her in the 98 instead, and I get to focus on a different method of running Golgari elves.
MonoG Ezuri ended up in the 99 of my Varis (Silverymoon Ranger) dungeons (and elves).
I’m an Arcades player. This is my boi and I love him so much. Thank you for the non roast ❤
Gishath was my first commander ever. As a kid I was a huge dino-fanatic, so how could I not build a deck that appeals to my inner child? Love that you deemed it significant and relevant enough to put on this list. Thank you.
That Charcoal Grill reference hit deep, Keskins is the only kebab shop that I'll risk my life with
Angels is my favorite tribe, Giada is my commander. My daughter's name is Gia. She has a pretty good win rate.
Don't make me feel bad. I was so gentle with Giada already. 🤣
good on your daughter for being such a good fighter honestly her MMA career is long and prosperous
There is nothing wrong with angels or playing Giada as a commander, magic players are just a little immature.
This was absolutely hilarious and very accurate when you mentioned the ones I have. Great video and it was great to laugh, thank you
My favorite commander is Pippin guard of the citadel. No one expects him to kick their ass but then he does and its the funniest thing ever. Nothing better than giving protection from creatures to a body of knowledge while I have 50 cards in hand and swinging for the win. Best deckbuilding you can do is using your commander as a boost to your main strat rather than as the lynchpin of it.
Do you play the deck against the same players a lot? Seems like itd just devolve into shooting pippin at random
@mopanda81 nah the trick is to always have a bigger threat/problem which for pippin is not that hard. Also lots of protective effects like mother of runes and counterspells. It also helps to have that ward 1 as it just further wastes resources so people are even less likely to target him. He's got some awesome wincons tied to him but the deck has a lot more wincons than just him. As i said he is not the lynchpin of the deck, hes just a great effect i can have from turn 2.
Seeing multiple of my favorite commanders on this list makes me think I must be doing something right~
Isshin is a lightning rod for brewers who want to create a deck for him they'll never build.
What makes the deck never come together?
@@Zarbon000 Oh no just saying "popular on EDHREC" means they made a list somewhere, not that they played it. I think it's just a Commander with a more fun than average thought experiment brew
@@dynamicsporadic I’m thinking about making Prosper Tomebound. It’ll be hard to brew around but I’m sure I can get it to work if I try hard enough.
@@Zarbon000 I'd say to the contrary, Prosper opened a new door with monetizing impulse, for which there are SO many pieces out there and every set adds more as it's such a generic thing to do. It is a fun deck, but as pointed out in the video, can make for some long turns.
Feel like ice winddale could be a good transition to have some double fun without being a lighting rod:)
In total there is one in here that I want to build and one maybe.
I always had a thing going on with angels, and Giada was the first time WotC printed something that made it worth playing so it would be neat to have even if I will likely keep my Azami as my forever pet deck and Mr. House and an Elas il-Kor/Lurrus build as my main ongoing passion projects.
The Go-Shintai is made more boring by generic enchantment synergy, true, but building around the sheer jank of the OG shrines just seems incredibly funny to me.
12:30 i thought i was watching sneaky for a second lol
Honestly the only one I have a deck for is go-shintai. I love enchantments, and I like shrines. So the moment I saw the card I made the deck.
have you tried rarely played enchantment finisher “divine visitation”? scryfall it and thank me later ;)
The Edgar Markov kebab bit is so viscerally familiar. It's almost like that exact thing happened to me in a distant dream I had after passing out in a game against 3 other Edgar decks. I was piloting Edgar as well.
I'm convinced your want to play Edgar after how deep you went. That passion was suppressed
I just like Kebabs
I played shrines before go-shintai but I can honestly agree that while the concept of a shrine that makes shrines made the deck actually playable, it definitely feels lazy. I love my go-shintai deck but it's very linear. Ramp to go-shintai, play draw shrine, play more shrines, hope for onboard clear, OTK with extra triggers and turns.
Essentially, it's not a grind them down deck with mediocre shrines, it's a shrine enchantment tribal turbo deck.
You never lived until you got Ghalta for Gishat, attack With one damage to player, Gishat for etali, Etali getting exactly the card you need to win
Y'know, it makes me happy that Henzie doesn't show up. He's popular enough to beat most objectively inferior Commander's that don't say "Blitz a thing", but Hipster enough to fly under the radar.
Jundom roolz!
Henzie is my favorite commander to actually play, he has multiple lines, some clever stuff to do, and words on the card that discourage other players to immediately kill him as soon as he enters.
totaly agree, my absolute favorite, if you like to play creatures, henzie is your man, the perfect part is, you can build EVERY theme with creatures around him. Dragons? easy. Aristocrat, perfect. Cheat out stuff, no problem. Going wide with tokens, he will do it. Chuck all commanders you normaly play as his followers, works great. It`s just hilarious, you could get into each match with a different strategy and it wil work decent.
And screw blue and white, Henzie is my perfect commander
"Every set has something that benefits Prosper."
>looks at new Plot mechanic
Yup, accurate.
I think the only reason I'm not bored of my Korvold deck is because I specifically built it to avoid treasure tokens as much as possible and instead it's filled with "value when this dies"-creatures and cards like Demonic Lore that have big ETBs, but equally big downsides if they aren't removed. "Korvold the sac outlet" is a much more fun deck to play imho than "Korvold the coin eater".
Pretty fair judgments. I have a few commanders here. I still play them primarily because I'm too busy to build new decks with commanders I'm actually interested in
I feel very good about my Atraxa deck now - I made sure it has no +1/+1 counters, planeswalkers or infect in it. Everyone expects that and so I run all sorts of other silly counters on stuff.
As a Kaalia player since day one, I love that she still commands some level of attention, over a decade later.
"I cannot roast this commander and its getting off (borderline) scot-free." Is the biggest roast.
I've played decks for 6 of these. I've taken apart Edgar, Krenko, and Shorikai. I have Prosper and Wilhelt precons that I've upgraded but don't play anymore despite still being sleeved up. I have a budget (around $25 usd according to Moxfield) Jodah deck that I enjoy in moderation. My favorite deck of all time is my Miirym clones deck.
I do have an Esika deck, but every other card is Unfinity dice-rolling and attractions, and I plugged in the card-for-card mana base of the Pain-bow precon to slow it down.
I haven't seen anyone make a johda deck the way I did, I built it with the concept of all the "partner with" creatures from the commander precons and battle bond sets
Glad we got to roast Andover as well.
I think something that would be cool is to see you do a top 10 (or 20) commanders based by set (past sets to current) I personally love your "tounge in cheek" quite frankly, frank way of reviewing cards!
I like videos like this. You should do a video roasting the Top 3 Commanders from that last 10 sets. Boom, there is your 30 in 1 video.
Me and my brothers started the same time in Ravnica returned. I got the Gruul riot deck, and he got the azorius detained deck. I still have Vietnam PTSD from that.
Tfw you manage to escape the roast because your commander isnt popular enough, but only because no one wants to welcome you to their table for playing Eriette of the Charmed Apple or Xanathar, Guild Kingpin
My prismatic bridge deck is a Superfriends decck I call super jank because I just shoved in a bunch of proliferate random planeswalkers and extra upkeep cards
great tier list video vince, love the format
A. Pushed commanders
B. Hand-holding
I think ive completed the MTG cycle of "This is word salad,.this mskes sense, this is word salad again" like 3 times now and its exhausting
Honestly, the only videos I like before watching! Always a great time!
Oh wow, nothing else tickled your fancy?
The owners and regulars at my LGS were only able to scrounge up one copy of Isshin between the lot of them to lend someone for his mardu samurai deck for standard. wouldn't be surprised if that was the only copy of him in the country.
God, I love angels.
Nice. Can we also get a pep talk of the least played (but actually somewhat interesting) commanders?
lady orca was right there in the video fam what more do you need
The reason why I don't play any popular commanders is that the deck building experience is the same, often with all of a certain cards in a commander deck being the same, I like commander's like oskar rubbish reclaimer as he does something that doesn't seem powerful but can ignore timing restrictions, so cool!
Seriously, how did we get like six Aragorns and a doctor to fill 4 color but still only have atraxa.
The funny thing is the crazy side of me would love to see an atraxa deck where all you do is sticker cards since Tickets can be proliferated
20+ minute roast session? 🧐🧐🧐
I'm with you on Isshin decks. Never seen one but keep hearing about them. Conversely, everyone I know has or regularly plays against Jon Irenicus but no list
It might be one of those guys that everyone builds but never buys, so EDHrec picks them up(?). Idk tho.
My lgs has people that have and play this deck. It's pretty gross.
It's a very fun commander to brew around, I started with a samurai tribal and ended up with 6 different builds (samurai tribal, Voltron, ups all myriad, everything is goaded, 1v1 budget and just high power staples) I ended up building only the last 2 and I'm pretty happy, I might end up building the others just to be able to play him on casual tables
I held my breath and glanced nervously at my defender deck when Arcades was first 😅
Glad the worst I can accused of being is boring with my Giada deck...
I had to build her, though, because my baby's first attempt at building a commander deck back in 2013 was trying to make Mikaeus the Lunarch angels and knights deck. It.... was terrible. But after Giada was announced (and shortly after Sidar Jibari) I had to build both of them for the nostalgia... and because of all the good knights and angels still in my collection.
Loved this. Please do more.
Excuse me, *my* Atraxa deck is different. Not only is it planeswalkers and infect, but it is also battles tribal.
A reverse proliferate ability would be sweet, now that I think about it.
Watching Kenobi while high is an experience how does this man talk this fast.
I tend to stay away from popular things and don't have any of these commanders. The only one that I have is Giada, but she's in a Sephara deck that was made for my MTG club's budget challenge (with our commanders chosen by someone else). It's kinda hard to make a mono-white flying deck without it having angels in it because they make up the majority of the high end white fliers. Also, my favorite commander right now is Yidaro
I used to pretty exclusively talk crap on this channel.
Ive never subbed, you just end up on my feed all the time and you used to bum me out a lot.
Today i am here to say:
You look very pleasantly healthy, im glad you actually seem happy for once, and your content gave me feelgood vibes today.
Some content bleeders run dry, others refine their juice into a sweet cocktail.
You apparently bleed absinthe.
Stay chill, man. Your blood pressure thanks you.
Man really pulled the MakeMeBad35 banana video for audio clips. You love to see it.
See this is why i made my angel deck white red so i can do more than sit there. I love attacking twice, and with helm of the host potentially infinite combat with helm of the host
I was tempted to claim that Giada is boring and Sigarda is the 'Spicy' Angel commander, but that's like saying that mayonnaise is spicy in comparison to milk.
The Commander I use for CEDH is Heliod Sun-Crowned. Of course I also have walking ballista and triskelion...and Tudors. Smothering tithe, esper sentinel., and other bs.
Speaking of Chulane: i literally have a deck themed around telling stories that he's not good enough to go in 😂
Speaking of Shorikai, I don't run it as a commander but that's exactly who Chulane got replaced by 🤣🤣🤣
Anime mechs are part of stories, doods.
Let the anger flow through you Kenobi!
Don't hold back so much, This kind of stuff is always fun and I doubt anyone takes it seriously.
Bring the heat, we can take it.
I think if they were going to retrain Gishath, they should have had it be like Enraged Focus, where Once each turn if it’s dealt damage you can search your deck for Dinosaurs up to the amount of damage it was dealt and put them onto the battlefield.
Didn’t even realized how much I missed those!
I play Atraxa Super Friends and Atraxa Charge Counter Artifacts. One is done to hell and back Infinite times, and one is a little more niche. Some people do Level Up counters, though, and that ACTUALLY sounds creative and unique
I think atraxa saprolings would be cool. Goodway to stack up spore counters a little faster
You'd probably be better off playing Xavier Sal... unless you really wanted to include white for whatever reason
@@CptSteiner i think I've come across this card once or twice and considered it, adding white means I can run pollenbright wings amongst other things. It's not a power based decision honestly, considering saprolings is NOT the way to go if you want something powerful lol
@@bryceosborne4357 Oh for sure, purely a suggestion. I wouldn't be playing Xavier for power reasons. I just think he fills a similar role that Atraxa would, but is more fun to play with and is less-commonly played--imo of course. Happy brewing!
I feel no shame or negative emotions or adverse effects playing Edgar Daddy. He brings me great joy
Man last time I checked the top 20, Muldrotha and Atraxa were practically tied. They each used to hold the number 1 slot for a couple days or so and then the other one would come up and dethrone it. Now Muldrotha isn’t even in the top 20? What happened?
1600 Legendaries were printed.
You haven't lived until you have resolved a Weird harvest for 7 and then play the Tempting Wurm you just tutored.
I’m still keeping my Voja deck together because I’ve wanted a Naya Wolf commander since I cracked a Wolf Pack in Portal Three Kingdoms. If they’d just print an emblem like commander for my favorite tribe I’d swap it out in an instant.
It was labelled hipster because they all make artisanal bottle openers or whatever at the local crafting coop.
I once bought a Commander Anthology Box that came in to my LGS because I wanted to keep the boring commander players from buying it for thr Atraxa deck and the other rare deck pieces in the box.
I've kept those decks together as they were from the box and use them occasionally for fun commander
Pretty sure Yuriko is at least a whole tier higher than Winota in cEDH at this point. Bowmasters meta hurts the little hatebears a lot and Yuriko can always thoracle consult whereas boros has no solid win cons besides combat.
Also we say Kindred now - not typal
The few times I've played against Jodah, it's always been "oh shit, they've got +10/+10".
Whew, my boy Vorinclex (MR and Vanilla, I’m not a savage) finally escaped a 20 Worst Commanders list alive.