How to Get Your Render to Stay on the Wall - KB#8
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- How to render over breeze blocks with James King. He tells us all about his mix, tips and the materials used in Part 8 of King Build.
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It's good to see a bunch of INTELlIGENT tradesmen who think about their job and stay abreast of developments in tools and materials. I bet the guys who criticise you Roger, are the old stuck in the mud types who've been doing it all the same way for 30 years while the trade has changed completely around them.
rendering in the rain go home mate
jeeeez wot shit you talk, iv been plastering for 40 years l use all known materials new and old, as for roger he is the twat how said plasterings not a trade, l would love him to plaster a 4 bed inside and smooth render outside see how he gets on, bet he won't put that on youtube.plumbing, electrical, chippy work is all done by manufactured materials just put together with a bit of know how.
@@dccowell56 wow.
I guess Im randomly asking but does anybody know a trick to log back into an instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me
I really like your videos with James, he's got such a nice manner about him. Lucky clients, to have a builder like that!
He's great. What a nice guy he is
Great to see a tradesman taking real care, touches like leaving the final screws out until the end are small things but set apart the good guys from the great. This will be great when finished.
Bloody nice job, James @James King
Cool video guy's, it's coming together, all the best Tony
I love Roger's videos, he doesn't constantly shill like some other guys.
Thanks for these vids, and also the tradesmen for their comments. If I don't understand, I read the comments. Excellent channel
I just want to say I love your channel. Keep up the good work. Keep well Rodger.
“So I’m not really doing this” that comment made me spit my tea out, pure comedy, loving this king build good stuff 👍🏻
Thanks for the vidieos Roger and James, Love the technical info and tips and supplier leads, much appreciated.
Always enjoy a catchup with these guys.
Thanks, it has been a while now with the lockdown but they have managed to keep working
What a pleasure to watch. Thanks gents for very generously taking the time to share your knowledge with us 👍
I like this guy
Nice to see a master craftsman at work! Appreciated. Cheers
Quality tradesmen, keep em comin
More to come! A couple of really nice guys/
Ask half a dozen plasterers for an opinion and you’ll get a dozen different answers. I agree with you Roger about waterproofing too.
Thumbs up. Hope you are staying safe and well Roger!
Great video Roger 👍. Hope you’re all keeping safe. All the best mate. Jim
Thanks, you too!
Great video Roger thanks
I was laughed at a few times for reading books in a portakabin at lunchtime, says more about the person doing the laughing than anything else.
Conrad
I have known many people who wear their ignorance like a badge of honour. Pol Pot had that approach of bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
Skill Builder Paul potts was on the X-factor you know.
Roger roger roger, with the message about waterproofer i was creasing up 😅 the other guys face
3:27 Before retiring, I was in telecommunications. Customers would try to "help" by sealing outdoor JBs with silicone. As one wise arse in the office said, it works so well, the water can't get out.
Great job guy's! Thank you for the video
Great video guys
Thanks so much Dean. Pity it doesn't have more views.
grate job done there keep up the good work men
Is your mate Rick Moranis twin brother he forgot he had 😄😄. Watching you two having a yak just takes me back to my younger self employed days, working with many different builders on many extensions. They were good old days.
Nice work Buddy
Only thing is the customer must be prepared to pay loads more for the sbr coating and the render meshing
All good if they want it done properly
But Just to apply the sbr by brush is a job in itself it ruins clothing driveways and anything it touches
Its also expensive and to be quite honest it seals the blocks surface as it’s waterproof
You are meant to apply your render over it whilst it’s still wet and this is very time consuming and stops you getting into a rhythm
By using the mesh you are sandwiching the render on that’s the only reason that your scratch coat will hang on to the dried sbr , the small cement Particles mixed in with the Sbr are barley dust the render will not key to this unless it is still wet
I use rendermesh on internal plastering that needs reinforcing , cracks etc and I always skim on tacky pva adhesive after I have first applied a sealing coat the previous day
Render mesh is great but also slows the entire process down your infact putting 2 scratch coats on and cutting all of the mesh
Loads more money !!!!
I read Books and have been A Plasterer for 37 years
I’m not a Jack of all trades I’m a specialist in this field
Good vid though
Hi. Thanks so much for the reply. I am keen to give it a go over a couple of door ways I have just blocked up. One needs dashing and the other needs rendering. Do I need to put this reinforcing netting into it as I have seen an landscaped wall with this which looks like it has leprosy. All peeling away from the top to the bottom. Thanks for the reply and advice
I do enjoy these videos. :)
Rendering in the rain LOVE IT lmao the mesh on the corners of windows are stress patches
Good!♡♡♡
Thanks for your videos. Did you use plastering sand or sharp sand?
Are they using a mix of soft and sharp, or purely plastering sand ?
The reason we put waterproofer in the scratch coat is to stop the suction so you can get a decent amount of top coat before you pebble dash.When rendering in just sand and cement I wouldn’t put a waterproofer in any coat,especially the scratch coat unless you wanted to hang around all day to rub up
Handy when its a hot day tho 👍🏻
Man of many talents James . I like how the mesh was applied so it’s sandwiched in 👌🏼. Fair play for leaving the “trickle vent “ in the video 😂. Lucky it’s rendered it would have been a bugger to fix if it was facework .😬.
Look forward to the next one . Stay safe boys 😷🧱👍🏽
I was so annoyed with myself when I came to putting the frame in but as you say it’s just as well it being rendered! In fact I only filled in the outside skin and it’s left a nice little recess to put a roller blind above the door.
you use wavy lines because its more surface area for the top coat to bond to
No you don't it's because of cracking.
Bit of a Jack of all trades this bloke 😂
scratch coat is so nice, that you could do the finish coat the same and I would be happy
Gear looks lovely very neat scratch do you feel that is enough key I use the marshalltown scratcher looks a better key to me it's all about being confident tho nice job
I use marshmallows in my hot chocolate
Nice work, maybe try hp12 base coat ,
Wan King . Lol.
Brilliant upload guys sweet as a nut 👌🏻✌🏻
Hi, does the sbr and cement mix go on with a brush then? Could you tell us the mix you use for scratch coat and top coat? Thanks. Excited for more videos
Yes, it’s brushed on. Mix I use is 5 sand, 1 cement, 1 lime.
On a single skin breeze block shed would you use waterproofer AND Lime ?
Is it ok using breeze blocks on an out side leaf of a single storey extension?
Check out the Winkhaus autolock
. Locks as soon as the door closes
The thing is if you don't put the waterproof in and the damp gets in the customers will have you for not putting in. At least if you put it in you can say. We'll I put the waterproof in it 😂😂😂👍👍👍
going to try and render a wall,what length and width of trowel should i get,cheers
Hi there,
If you’re trying it for the first time I’d recommend a 14” trowel. It’s also worth having a straight edge about 3-4 feet long which can use to rule off the render that you have just spread on to show up any low or high spots in the render.
I was taught to do straight scratch lines because moisture can sit in the dips of a wavey lined scratch and cause issues - I have never had an issue with straight lines.
You are right about the moisture but wavy lines are much better for relieving stress from shrinkage of the cement.
That scratch is ace, what does the mesh do?
It stops the aircrete blocks cracking.
What’s my best option for rendering a single skin shed and making it water tight ?
I could really use some advice in regards to applying Weber tyrolean system to a wall which has poorly fitted windows (fitted unlevel) where I cannot use conventional render profiles. Kind regards.
Amateur question.
When using fiberglass reinforcement while rendering, lets say I want to continue the next day. Where do I pause the work? Will the rendering hold nice the next day?
Roger why didn’t you insist on lime in that mix! 😂 love a bit of lime in the mix!
Zed Man lime is the secret ingredient.
First, great channel
So will the door meet building regs spec for energy efficiency? (Sorry can’t remember what part letter it’s in)
No Skills it doesn’t, but weirdly our building control officer doesn’t seem too bothered about anything, just random stuff like doubling up the hip rafter and additional locks on windows and doors!?! It’s good in some ways as we know what we’re doing and can just get on with it but worrying in others as he could let some proper dodgy stuff go on other builds. This is a door and frame chosen and bought by the client, it’s their house and their choice so they are lucky to have the BCO that has been assigned to the job. P.s I think it’s part L.
Part L, is correct, and new controlled fittings (windows n door) should provide the correct U-value. Even if he signs it off, it don't comply and might get questions if they sell the house. 🤔
Roger, fancy coming to watch me work tomorrow.? Ive got a set of sink taps to change in a top floor flat 🤣
If your name had been Simone then I might have thrown caution to the wind but I am social distancing.
Skill Builder don’t worry I’ll keep you 2 metres away with my large level! I’m back to work son. Dripping taps, leaky baths, pin holes in waste pipe! Keep our tenants safe and sound. Hardly emergency work but hey ho....they who pays the money....
Don't ever change the formula, it's fucking brilliant :)
Pat Butcher!
Chris James 😂😂😂
No waterproofing - No adhesives - good key - use H2o - Don't read Books, they're always contradictory and ONLY ever 'one Man/Woman's Opinion' ...... Keep it Natural - Play Safe - Do it Properly ..... Just a thought :-) ......
Always work in the rain if possible and it won't get away from Ya ;-)
Hi. interesting video. Thanks for sharing. Was this render going onto thermalite blocks? If yes, how do you get the time to spread it on the wall without the blocks sucking the moisture out as soon as it touches the wall? And, are you saying you don't need to use waterproofer in the 1st or 2nd coat?
Hi Lee
When rendering onto Thermalites you always need to apply a slurry of cement and SBR with a little bit of sand thrown in. You could use Rendaide as an alternative. You need a good key and a suction killer and these products do both. There is no need to use waterproofer, it locks moisture in. The reason plasterers use it is to give them more working time.
There's a haulage truck I see on the M5 with the name SHEDDICK adorning the side I can't imagine the mind boggles at how that name came about
James reminds me of a character in the comedy Benidorm....
Hows the in growing toe nail getting on?
Yes we need an update on that
Hi roger is there any problem with starting a 8 metre wall and joining it because I wouldn’t be able to finish in one day,
It is difficult to diguise a day joint. When the sun shines you will see it. Most plasterers get some help so they can get the whole elevation done in a day
Wailing on the commenters today Roger 😉
Yes, some days I just lose patience with all those people. Moaning about people moaning. I should stop it.
First comment 😂...great job guys!
i like sbr in scratch, water proofer in final coat. i find if i put water proofer in scratch i find it doesnt key as well and takes an eternity to go off.
Just my preference, every one likes there way.
I do the same thing. What quantity of SBR do you mix in? It is a waterproofer in its own right.
@@SkillBuilder I couldn't tell you off the top of my head as we are not doing it every day. I just go with the ratio to cement it gives on the back of the tub. I just have much more confidence in the S B R. Might be in my head but I feel like the finish coat bonds a lot better to the scratch coat with it rather than render add mix.
Keep those scratches wavy, up and down and left to right, or the one directional grab will crack the render within weeks.
Fair dues,For two lads they don't half get through the work .
That is the power of Yorkshire tea
That's not a mistake, thats what we call a fuck-up 😀😀
So much has changed since the filming of this video, physical contact and many point on the video and the hand shake at the end. We are social beings - the ‘new norm’ is going be be strange and unnatural. Keep up the good work. I do prefer these videos, Over the videos which seen to be heavily sponsored. That said I know you can not rely on Adsense for steady revenue!
Should the scratch been multi-directional?
It helps to have a wavy line to help the sideways pull as the render shrinks.
Here's a question wonder if anyone in the SB community can help me. I've picked up a workshop extension for free. It's a prefab concrete unit with approx 50cm x 80cm panels. I'm wanting to render it up to match an outdoor kitchen and seating area I want to make in the garden. The other option is bolting battens and cedar cladding.
Has anyone successfully rendered using suitable skrim and flexible render over prefabs or has anyone had bad experiences?
I was told Smith is common because black smiths where the only ones able to get chastity belts off!
I like that idea back in the days of smash and grab.
4-1 is a bit Strong, 6-1-1 sand cement and lime is much more forgiving.
pbysome 7.1.1 for the finish coat then?
Will that not be a bit weak
👍
Jesus, like he said I'd be happy with that scratch coat!
I’ve used the mesh and plug option. Does this work what he’s using or not???
Just looks like it’s floating in the render to me. 🤷🏻♂️
That is the idea. It gives the render some tensile strength.
What are the thoughts on ems sheets then?
Do you put Feb in render mix?
Just lime
Is this lithomix render ?
Watch out roger, them keen plasters and renders will be out on ya again. More bullet dogging
Brendan
The thing is that you can't dodge bullets, all you can do i skeep your head down but where is the fun in that?
That gap at the top of the door !!!
Easier to fill a gap than create on.
You mean the letterbox
It was a genuine mistake, that part of the building was built on an existing foundation but I took one course of bricks out too many when I took the old building down. However, it has actually been a blessing in disguise, we have only filled in the outer skin on top of the door frame and as it is an inwards opening door it has left a perfect recess for a roller blind which won’t interfere with the door opening.
Got to laugh at that door, all them locks with a big piece of glass and a 10mill plywood panel! Kick kick
Broken foot!
We all miss JK how about a update Rodger
What are breeze blocks?
It is a bit of an archaic term now but still comes up high in the search rankings. It is really a building block with air in it. They used to be made from flyash from power stations and cement. The problem is they were quite acidic and corroded the wall ties. The new variant is an aircrete block made by Thermalite and Celcon, to name but two.
This involves throwing a handful of zinc filings into a mix sloppy mix of cement and sand. The zinc reacts with the cement and causes bubbles like in an aero chocolate bar and this produces a lightweight block with very good insulation values.
Was that guy making windows in the garage?
Nobody knows what he is making in there. Ian was self isolating before the phrase was invented. Give him some wood and some tools and you can leave him in there for months.
always funny to watch - " level on the scratch coat "....
Nowt like your top coat sliding over your scratch because of crap waterproofer. You don't need waterproofer in a mix
Won't render pebble dash wall do go straight over it with a scratch coat
Whys he rendering in the rain? 😂
Try watching the video and he'll tell you why. Makes sense really doesn't it.
@@craigsadler8794 I think you will find Mr Walklate 84 was joking. I said somebody would ask so he asked.
Oh dear, Craig. Too quick on the typing there.
wouldnt it have looked better with a plumbed bead on the edges
Great tradesmen
That multi point locking mech
Is pointless really considering the door is more glass than wood 😂
Who has been beating those blocks
There is a lot of it around South London. Men coming home from the pub late at night and taking it out on the walls.
love how these advertisements are getrting more frequent and longer untill yuo can skip screw you YT
Monster G.
If we imagine for the craziness of it that you owned Google and you bought UA-cam, what would your strategy be ? I am genuinely interested because I don't meet a whole lot of people who don't like jam on their bread.
@@SkillBuilder soon it will take 30 min to watch 5 min of one video as it is on sky. It’s bull and you know it. You will soon realise as less and less people watch. It’s just wasting people’s time end of. And given the type of channel this is I can’t see many builders watching countless advertisements. It’s not just your videos don’t take it wrong way. I remember watching you tube and there was no advertisements. Better of just getting stuck I. And teaching yourself instead of sitting in front of the tv.
@@monsterg4603 O.K I accept that adverts are often tedious but there is a subscription option that gives you ad free content. That seems entirely reasonable. What I find difficult to understand is why people expect something for nothing yet they do nothing free for anyone else.
Pretty funny, multi point lock, glass door. Lol. Cut the glass
You should work in the rain if you can
Cat shit in the sand.... is that where sticks like shit to a blanket came from? It was an additive before fiber glass mesh was invented?
Idiot question coming up :- Why the mesh and scratch coat?
I sorta thought the mesh replaced the scratchy
No such thing as an idiot question. The mesh is there to help prevent the cracking that occurs with aircrete blocks.
The scratch hold the next coat. If you had concrete blocks or brick you might not bother with the mesh but would still have the scratch coat.
Hiya why do you now have annoying advertisements before your videos start to play
We monetise our videos because we find poverty pretty annoying. We don't control the ads, that is Google.
You really need to research exactly why a wavey is better than straight line, derrrrrr