You will always get water in your hydraulic fluid due to condensation, even if your shifter boot is perfect. There's no way to avoid it. That's why you use the proper Universai Tractor Hydraulic fluid (UTF) that contains, among other things, lots of rust prevention additive, and change the fluid every two or three years.
I had an uncle who back in the day farmed with three 8N tractors. He would always fill the hydraulic reservoir with diesel or kerosene and then run up and down the road while raising and lowering the 3PH. Really gave it a good flush out.
Just pulled the plugs on my friends 50 8n. Straight black tar. It's every bit of an inch and half thick sludge and the nastiest oil I've seen with my eyes so far. Hasn't been changed in at least 30 years that he knows of. Disappointing, the lack of maintenance.
I don't know anything about a 2 N. We have a 1940 model 9N. It is painted solid Gray. Has Yours been repainted, or did they change the Color on the newer models?
@@billstmaxx For a couple minutes, won't damage anything. It's better than run dry and it's a common practice when the oil gets milky and needs to be cleaned out.
@@billstmaxx My uncle farmed with three 8N's for many years and he always flushed them out with kerosene and sometimes diesel. Running it for a short time to flush it out won't hurt it. I mean, what's it going to do... wear the pump? That pump has already seen 80 years of wear. :-)
Good luck with the old Tractor give it some old T:LC and that alone will help it a lot! I work on a lot of older tractors! Seen a lot of people neglect any equipment they have and then complain about it not being built right when it starts to break down on them because parts starts wearing out! Seen that a lot even in people's vehicles too! Well good luck with the old 2n it is in good hands now that will give it some tLC! Take Care up your way and maybe the snow will stop about June for you up there! Be safe too up there!
I do have to ask, I had my 9N apart to put in a new clutch and ring hear. When I was reassembling it, I noticed those cotter pins on the bottom, it seems they do anything. Are they just breathers or pressure release area's and the cotter pins keep dirt out?
BILLSTMAXX yes sir been doing it for many years and my dads has a tractor repair business for 40 years. The oils base in the fuel will flush all the “milk” out. Once it’s drain fill back up with oil and run it around a bit and flush it again
Need to cycle the lift also the lift piston still has that oil in it from we’re you still have the disc holding the arms up. Just think of it as a flushing a engine you drowned out in water I always drain it fill it up with diesel crank it up a few seconds then drain
That looks like hydraulic oil with engine oil, not water. put a sample in a mason jar. leave it to settle for 24 hrs the water will sink, and you will see it, if its oil/oil there will be no separation.
If that oils old and had water in it for a while it might not separate out so much anymore. I've seen that happen in old tractors i work on here, it kinda stays that color.
Thanks for another update, the old girls like some tractors I've had here in my collection, probably hasn't had a decent service since the warranty ran out ! That smaller plug more in the side of that plate you pulled out could be for external pressure off the pump to add a loader or hydraulic feed for implement cylinders . Thats the Ferguson system hydraulics that caused the fall out between Harry Ferguson and Henry Ford. it's been about 25 years since I've seen one on a grey Fergie 20 but pretty sure that's where the feed pipe comes out on them for loaders .
Haven’t gotten that far yet. But hopefully yours looks better than the fluid I drained out of my allis chambers b last week. Good old milkshake. Anddd yours is worse. That sucks.
A request: Please put on protective glasses when draining hydraulic fluid, it strips paint, just think what it could do to your eyes.:-(. I can't think of anything you could wash the hydraulic fluid/water out of the tractor with, other than more expensiive hydraulic fluid :-(
I'm just an old farm boy but you better look at the shifter boot because that's where the water is coming in
just bought a 1950 8N.....thanks so much for this! and thanks to the commenters below for extra tips!
That plug on the side by the exhaust is actually for a auxiliary hydraulic line mine is equipped with one
the small one is the hydraulic test port, not a drain plug.
snow in may?? hoooollly
I would put some diesel fuel in the rear and run it around then drain it off and put some new hydraulic oil in it.
you cant do that with the internal pump
You will always get water in your hydraulic fluid due to condensation, even if your shifter boot is perfect. There's no way to avoid it. That's why you use the proper Universai Tractor Hydraulic fluid (UTF) that contains, among other things, lots of rust prevention additive, and change the fluid every two or three years.
Fill it with Diesel fuel, drive it and drain it, and repeat until all the gunk is cleaned out
I had an uncle who back in the day farmed with three 8N tractors. He would always fill the hydraulic reservoir with diesel or kerosene and then run up and down the road while raising and lowering the 3PH. Really gave it a good flush out.
Just pulled the plugs on my friends 50 8n. Straight black tar. It's every bit of an inch and half thick sludge and the nastiest oil I've seen with my eyes so far. Hasn't been changed in at least 30 years that he knows of. Disappointing, the lack of maintenance.
Flush that out with diesel feel that had moisture in it I know from experience
I don't know anything about a 2 N. We have a 1940 model 9N. It is painted solid Gray. Has Yours been repainted, or did they change the Color on the newer models?
Yes the 2n was gray as well. This was repainted
consistency of Elmer's wood glue.
Awww that's cool you had snow on my birthday lol
Wouldn't be a bad idea to fill it up with diesel, run it for a while including the 3pt, then dump that crappy stuff out again.
wish i could but its really hard on the pump inside the tractor.
@@billstmaxx For a couple minutes, won't damage anything. It's better than run dry and it's a common practice when the oil gets milky and needs to be cleaned out.
@@billstmaxx My uncle farmed with three 8N's for many years and he always flushed them out with kerosene and sometimes diesel. Running it for a short time to flush it out won't hurt it. I mean, what's it going to do... wear the pump? That pump has already seen 80 years of wear. :-)
That's gear oil and water. If you don't put the 80/90 gear oil back in that transmission you will burn the pump up in the transmission.
Good luck with the old Tractor give it some old T:LC and that alone will help it a lot! I work on a lot of older tractors! Seen a lot of people neglect any equipment they have and then complain about it not being built right when it starts to break down on them because parts starts wearing out! Seen that a lot even in people's vehicles too!
Well good luck with the old 2n it is in good hands now that will give it some tLC! Take Care up your way and maybe the snow will stop about June for you up there! Be safe too up there!
Put a smear of grease on the new gaskets, as they will lock up overtime...
Wasnt it a 8N? I thought we looked it up in a video
I do have to ask, I had my 9N apart to put in a new clutch and ring hear. When I was reassembling it, I noticed those cotter pins on the bottom, it seems they do anything. Are they just breathers or pressure release area's and the cotter pins keep dirt out?
Cream colour = water/moisture in oil.
Need to top it off with diesel fuel and run it around and drain it again
you cant do that with the pump inside and the valve body
BILLSTMAXX yes sir been doing it for many years and my dads has a tractor repair business for 40 years. The oils base in the fuel will flush all the “milk” out. Once it’s drain fill back up with oil and run it around a bit and flush it again
Need to cycle the lift also the lift piston still has that oil in it from we’re you still have the disc holding the arms up. Just think of it as a flushing a engine you drowned out in water I always drain it fill it up with diesel crank it up a few seconds then drain
@@billstmaxx how many times lol do you need to reply the same answer lol - people obviously dont read comments
I’d remove the pump and give it a good cleaning/rebuild. Most probably it’s full of gunk from sitting in the bottom of the case.
Put two or three gallons of diesel pick the back end up and let it run in gear to clean it all over it should get a lot out
you cant do that with the pump inside and the valve body
Oh I was thinking the back where the rear tires were at it would be ok
Put A tarp on it wIl,
That looks like hydraulic oil with engine oil, not water. put a sample in a mason jar.
leave it to settle for 24 hrs the water will sink, and you will see it,
if its oil/oil there will be no separation.
If that oils old and had water in it for a while it might not separate out so much anymore. I've seen that happen in old tractors i work on here, it kinda stays that color.
Thanks for another update, the old girls like some tractors I've had here in my collection, probably hasn't had a decent service since the warranty ran out ! That smaller plug more in the side of that plate you pulled out could be for external pressure off the pump to add a loader or hydraulic feed for implement cylinders . Thats the Ferguson system hydraulics that caused the fall out between Harry Ferguson and Henry Ford. it's been about 25 years since I've seen one on a grey Fergie 20 but pretty sure that's where the feed pipe comes out on them for loaders .
Well, there is your 3 pt issue right there. Milky oil and actually low oil. I'm sure it will be after with a fresh oil.
only around 2.8 gallon left in it.. should be just under 5
Haven’t gotten that far yet. But hopefully yours looks better than the fluid I drained out of my allis chambers b last week. Good old milkshake. Anddd yours is worse. That sucks.
I THINK YOU COULD HAVE Insulated your shed 5 times over for all the money you spent on your toys,
I’d drop the rear pan ewww what a mess
Hey Bill, take a small magnet and run it through the sludge from the caps to see if it metal shavings.
Poor girl shameful when the hydraulic oil looks like butter scotch pudding it’s bad
i love the tractor
A request: Please put on protective glasses when draining hydraulic fluid, it strips paint, just think what it could do to your eyes.:-(.
I can't think of anything you could wash the hydraulic fluid/water out of the tractor with, other than more expensiive hydraulic fluid :-(