Is This The Best Sim Racing Wheel? Precision Sim Engineering GPX
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Today's video takes a look at what I think may be the best sim racing wheel available today - the Precision Sim Engineering GPX.
The GPX is, without shadow of a doubt the best sim racing wheel I've ever had the chance to use. Though with the uncompromising nature of the design, materials, components, construction and finishing perhaps that's not so much of a surprise.
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I have no doubts it performs as it is advertised but at £2400, its way over my budget!
It must be straight out of a F1 car at that price
You can sell these for 1000 easy.
The "quality" obviously just comes from buttons and shifters.
The body, it's so cute how all these companys say they are all carbon, which is straight up bullshit.
@@CHRISrnbWORLD it does have a thin carbon layer tho
Farouk Musa It's a yoke. A yoke!!!
Carbon isn't as expensive as you think.
Electronics cost like 50 bucks and a full carbon body maybe 200 if you make it really thick (here they even say it's not full carbon).
The full body here is simply 3d printed. Just a little carbon looking aluminium plate on top. Knobs and switches can cost like 10 a piece if they are metal, okay................ These here are just simple plastic ones you can buy everywhere.
Quick releases like this range from 50-150
All the sim stuff is heavily overpriced. 2500 is a complete joke.
@@obotish1981 an F1 wheel costs 50-100k pounds
Absolute wheel porn. Thank Chris for showing us the amazing piece of engineering marvel.
My thoughts entirely - but I couldn't use that word in the title without enraging the algorithm ;)
In 2017 a Formula 1 wheel costs $50,000 - $100,000. So at £3000 I'd say it's a bargain! Now all I have to do convince the wife it is. Wish me luck.
Tell her it was on sale. ;)
@@RVRCloset her words were "£3000 for a steering wheel?!..... ...if it were a Gucci Sylvie handbag I'd understand. But for a Toy?!" - now.... I wonder how much I can get for this wedding ring.
@@jaysoncrichton-stuart9727 Man leave that wifey, if she doesn't support your hobby, better leave the house you call home!!!!
50k? I don't believe that. The Porsche GT3 R wheel is less than 5k Euros.
@@Leynad778 seems atrocious I know. But compared to Regular racing wheels a F1 wheel is bespoke so is uniquely designed for each driver. It's shaped to fit Their hands perfectly. Not to mention a F1 cars wheel needs to be lighter and has more functions. Energy recovery, tyre modes, Radio, clutches, pit lane, engine modes, suspension, drink, DRS to name a few. It needs It also needs to be much smaller to fit in the confined space where the driver sits whilst still having a display as there's no dashboard like a regular car. AND it needs to be waterproof. Hell. It's basically an engineering marvel.
Here I am with my G27 hoping to upgrade to Fanatec one day :/
ikr? I almost made the fanatec switch a few years ago, but they didn't have their xbox compatible wheel yet and that was a factor for me at the time. Now I just don't think its worth the upgrade with the limited time I put into it, but now in PC only, I find the compromises made in g27 kind of lacking though...
The G29 is really Nice!!!
Same here
Meanwhile i still saving to buy g29
@@andrevieri1804 I can send u mine next month if u pay sending:)
What a wheel! Looks amazing, would love to own such a great piece of gear for sim-racing!
Me too - it was a tearful goodbye when I had to box it up to send it back :)
This thing belongs in a sim racing art museum. Wow, I'd love to own one of these.
Me too, giving it back was emotional ;)
indeed, why would you need a screen on your wheel in 2019... belongs in a museum.
@Daniel Walder vr makes these things useless and wheels get expensive for no reason... also, we have huds in racing sims, something that real life drivers don't... they need and have to adapt to these wheel screens... we don't.
@@aledmb then it's just a wheel and like me, I don't like VR it makes me motion sick so the wheel is perfect
Quality of your videos are just amazing. You should have way more subs
There is no way this underrated channel manages to make quality videos on par with MKBHD. Respect.
If you can afford it,get it lol. Looks amazing. If you intend to use it a lot. Really not a big deal. Not the same but wifey went ape when I spend £500 on an authentic Nhl jersey,not the cheap ones,import taxes too. 3 years later,she admitted defeat. Wear it nearly every day and love it still. You really only need a couple of wheels. Go big,if you can. Way out of my budget but maybe one day. I've just got enough for a sim2 pro and some spirit pedals.
Thinking more and more of buying this. Thanks Chris for the video, very few did have their hands on this.
Amazing piece of kit, obviously. Totally out of my reach and more expensive than my whole set up. LOL, thanks for the review, Chris. It's like watching Top Gear when they drive hyper cars. :)
It's literally modelled after the Mercedes F1 steering wheel, absolutely fantastic!
£2,650 when you add the dual clutch paddles - is it worth £1,360 more than the Formula CSX wheel?
Dave Coe if you ask you don’t ‘need’ this. ’
absolutely nope
Am I supposed to know what a csx wheel is
@@jasondavies6220 No, but you should have the ability to copy & paste the words into youtube's search box and find out.
I, and a few other guys I race with, have had the conversation on the PSE wheels, and do tend to agree that having a "funky" switch on a Sim wheel is pretty important in a Sim compared to an IRL car. Sufficiently so that if someone had the money to burn on this, they may look at an Ascher or Cube instead.
Not to say it's necessary by any stretch, but definitely is SO handy to have available.
Such a well produced video, thank you Chris. Very entertaining and informative - too.
3 months of social security for me. More $ than my entire set up. Good review Chris, points on price well made. Beautiful isn't it?
I enjoyed this so much I bought one, Thanks for the review
Very well done reviews Chris! Pleasure to watch.
Chris your videos are top quality! The aesthetic is simply superb, visually you are the best sim youtuber hands down. Keep the excellent work! 🙂
Wow what a high quality review, thanks for that!
I had the pleasure of trying out this wheel late last year and it certainly lived up to my expectations. It's solid as anything and the injection-moulded grips feel sublime, along with the shift paddles. One thing I found myself doing though was accidentally activating the top rotary if I moved my thumb to try and get some extra purchase or open my grip up a bit. I guess it's a bad habit of mine, and obviously modern F1 wheels are not designed for your grip to move in the slightest. I may one day look at buying this wheel, although the price is a bit hard to justify. The Lm-pro wheel that Max Verstappen uses is just as well made but half the price (after AU import duties) thanks to the less complicated layout and lack of a display; it makes more sense if you're in VR as well. Something like that might be what I ultimately end up going with when I go direct drive in a few years.
Would love to see you try the cube controls CSX 2. Crazy wheel though!
the B roll in this video looked really damn nice
im sorry i didnt see the title i just clicked, your videos are really good, cheers Chris!
Excellent video as always, improving day by day
Hi Chris, at 3:17 you explain the possibilty to switch between 3 display modes (F1, LMP and GT3); i just recieved my GPX but i can’t find any information/software to do this ! Thx for your attention and, keep up the good work ;)
I have the base level racing gear. I just need a wheel, my old G27 wheel broke. I was just about to start upgrading my sim to a high end one, but a hiccup in my life has put that on hold. I am a hobbyist but I like high-end parts just because I do, I enjoy custom made wheels like this, and as cool as F1 games are getting I want a dedicated F1 wheel. So I will add this to my wish list for later.
2400 is only a lot of money if you aint got it. If you amortize the cost over how many years you will use it for plus its resale value, im sure its more than worth it
Totally agree. I've got a guitar that's of a similar value that I've had for years, and will likely keep for the rest of my life. It's value is stable right now, but will likely appreciate... as long as I don't 'enjoy' it too much ;)
The grey part of the wheel - seen either side of the carbon centre plate - is a laser sintered part made from carbon reinforced PA12. It is clear from the appearance of the part shown in this video that the geometry is not optimal for the process & that the process has not been well controlled.
A Peace Of Art. Speechless.
There is absolutely no way in hell I would ever need this wheel....but I still want one!
Same looooool
Clarkson used this music for an Aston Martin take. I always loved this piece, now to watch video.
The rim looks fantastic! What is expensive or not - easily can be judget by checking what similar we have on the market on better price!:)
Just look up what a Santa Cruz V10 in it’s best spec will run you. You could get a pretty good car for those shekels. My point is, some people wants to ride bikes as a hobby, some people wanna sim-race. Some people won’t settle with nothing but the best, and if you are a dentist or whatever, you can afford it. Good for you!
IMO,. a 2400 wheel for 20k rig are quite reasonable..
What would stop a wheel like this being used in an actual vehicle, with a more sturdy connector of course, after doing a bit of research into wheels like the AIM Formula wheel I can’t see a reason why this couldn’t be used for actual racing, maybe some vibration problems perhaps?
Good point. It has a standard bolt pattern, so fitting it to a racing car would be simple... and with a hub adaptor you could fit one to your road car ;)
I’d pay that price if my life was streaming auto racing.
This is the type of high-quality product I'd personally buy even at a higher price. Its that good. However, like many promising products, it fails short with those cheap stickers around the buttons. Just cheap and horrible. Even if they decided not to laser-etch the commands on the wheel for customization's sake (though that could work through a bespoke program and a symbolic fee), at least recessing the areas beneath the stickers would have helped a lot to maintain the premium theme as well as protect the stickers from peeling off. The wheels is brand new yet some stickers show signs of coming off already. Such a let down for what could be described as the sexiest wheel on sale today.
Your presentation, however, is just as magnificent as all the other videos you create. Thank you Chris.
But that is also exactly what the F1's use as well.
How ever I agree that I would not be happy if they started to wear out or come off after a year or so.
@@NicolaosSoldal In Formula 1 you have a team of up to 1500 in a single team dedicated to do whatever lasts for 45 minutes only. They change the tires in 1.9 seconds and the entire front crash structure in 30 seconds. Reliability isn't their concern but whatever does the job for 45 minutes. Would you really be satisfied changing the stickers (or any other part/accessory every session on your sim rig? hell, even once per month? The only way for the stickers to be protected is, again, by being placed 'inside' a recessed area (like a sunken dish) so that the movement of your finger tip never touches the edges of the stickers or by painting/laser-etching them so they last for the longest time. As much as I adore this wheel, it is still an unfinished product, especially given the price it dictates.
@@kolokolok No I am aware about F1 stats, but I would be happy with high quality stickers, and if they provide replacements, even better. That's my personal opinion though. I've used wheels with stickers on them in the past, both in my Rig and In a track car. This was never really an issue for my self, which is why I highly doubt the stickers are going to come off or wear as much as you believe, unless you are consistently rubbing stuff on it. The grips will wear before the stickers. This is always my first concern with high end rims.
Sure is a beauty! And a topnotch presentation!! :)
I would rather spend that monay on another shifter though.. :D
with VR becoming more prevalent, these costly LCD screens will become irrelevant on wheels. Wonder how much that would reduce the price
Depends on the VR experience/environment you're in. Like this video shows, he's in a VR simulation but doesn't require the goggles covering his eyes.
I do imagine a non-LCD screen would knock off several hundreds of your currency.
You would be surprised at how cheap LCD panels are, I can assure you that, that is not one of the most expensive parts
karlpc200 but the software the have on it I’m sure costs a good bit.
@@telefon72 oh so true LCD screen are quite cheap, its the circuit board to run it all, the cnc machine time that would cost a fortune on this wheel
@@telefon72 exactly, its the r and d
All componets and software would cost like 100bucks at most
Beautiful!
and Utterly unaffordable! :(
Bit of a non sequitur but - I'd love to hear of the difference between the two F1 rims for the Thrustmaster T300 / T500 wheels 🤞 (no one's covered it yet AFAICT)
Again awesome video, short and informative. £2400 and then not able to cover the shifter wires ? really ?
What do you think about Thrustmasters upcoming F1 Wheel?
Thanks for the video, it's very interesting! It seems this product has a huge scope problem. As you said, PSE is coming from pro market and tries to target the general public. But even in the pro market, "uncompromising" is a synonym of over-budget, badly targeted product, and that will be of course even more obvious in the general sim market (which is not very large). Most people will look at this as an awesome product but the price will simply not meet their utility, and we know what that means, it will not sell much.
For example, using top materials ("aero-space grade aluminium", which rather sounds like meaningless marketing term, and single-pieced body) for parts that would already have been perfect with ordinary materials and a common assembly process is unnecessary. Likewise, what is the use of such a high-cost display when it is duplicated on the screen... and more readable on screen actually, since the users don't have to change their vision's field depth - for the few who aren't simply in VR in the first place.
Finally, what makes a racing wheel great is the motor base, the wheel is only a small fraction of the perceived quality. So overall, they have spent a lot of money in irrelevant features.
really good review. any thoughts on the GT1 steering wheel by precision sim
looks good + reliable + convenient no wonder it's that expensive
It's built like a tank too!
@@ChrisHaye yup as long as something can survive for years, it's justifiable to shell that kind of money on it, if one has it of course
The price is spare change for guys like max verstappen. But damn it is a good looking wheel.
Very NICE, thank YOU!
Yeah I need that wheel for the Mazda787 on Spa!...
It's worth 6 seconds a lap mate ;)
In that case Chris... I'll buy it off you for 6 secs... if that's what it's worth! Make that 10 secs... you gotta have some profit chap!
So much compromise to cut down on cost though. The cable is fixed with a cheap cable gland. The button shrouds are 3d printed and not very well you can see the layer lines. The button labels are just stickers. The cables from the shifters on the back are out in the open. I could go on... And for that price its absurd.
I love this wheel so much that I have to stop my self from buying it
Great video Chris. What a wheel!!!
Hello Chris, what about the LCD size? Is it 4.3" or 3.5" inc?
Any idea who makes encoders like this. They are so cool looking.
Am I the only one to whome the music at the beginning seems familiar? Wasn't it used in some Top Gear/Grand Tour episode?
Does it work on fanatec clubsport base v2
??? Asking for a friend...
I just hope you learn to take the corners better when the next wheel comes around.
This is a real professional sim wheel period. These are the wheels on million dollar professional setups
Hello, good video, great wheel. Simple question for you Chris, how do you change the dash display on the wheel? I see you use the Page+ and Page- buttons but those seem inoperable on my received model. Is there something I'm missing or did I somehow receive a defective wheel? Thanks in advance.
Hi Chris, you mention that the buttons and the rotary switches are swiss made. What is the name of the company that made the buttons and the rotary switches ?
And here I am thinking the new fanatec direct drive pro gt was expensive....
great vid.. take a breath every now and then though :)
there is a dude on the iRacing forums builds them way better than this and theyre cheaper but about £1200, completely carbon fibre he did a replica of vettels and kimi's and absolutely nailed them
It's beautiful!
Answering the OP question. Hardware wise, Yes. Software, no. It’s weird that such a top wheel at such a price has very little flexibility on the Dash and uses Fanaleds to program the LEDs. At that price point one would expect a dedicated software to come along that gives high flexibility when programming the Dash and LEDs
Time to manufacture my own )))
Cool wheel!!
But..
The cable is ridiculous, no quick release??
Price is Bananas..
Its a direct copy of the mercedes F1 steering wheel. Besides from the rotary buttons at the buttom
No its mclaren
It’s very cool but tbh you can buy pretty much the same wheel but it will be from the Ferrari SF1000. It has the the screen and a lot of buttons that are on the actual Ferrari SF1000. And it just costs 350€ or something. Yeah it’s just a wheel add-on but if you compare to this one that costs more than 2000$ then I’ll pick the Ferrari one.
That wheel is more attractive than my wife!
😂
Probably more cost effective long-term as well ;)
@@ChrisHaye No Chris, she has more money than me... So I have to tell her how beautiful she is for a few days is if I want anything sim related!
@@frankjames4573 Damn! lol
Can I pick one of these up at Game?
It is modeled identically to the Merc AMG W11's wheel
bruh that wheel costs more than my entire pc setup
Does it come with a wheel base or is it compatible with fanatec?
This wheel was designed with the RSS 2019 Formula Hybrid, so how does it work with that car and AC?
Go back and watch the RSS video.
Yeah Chris, I admit it is good - but I think MY wheel is the best - it is called the Logitech Driving Force GT, and it is a WINNER!!! ;P
P.S. But I did have to save up for ages - as it cost me a whopping $60....
I would have felt a lot less nervous about blowing so much money on a new-in-box Driving Force Pro in 2004 if I had known it would still be going strong 15 years later. Credits to Logitech for making such a sturdy product, and continuing to support it today. (They have Windows 10 drivers for the thing!)
What a superb bit of kit!
Worth every penny in my opinion even though I am about 239,500 pennies short 😂
Thanks!
Isn't this identical in design to tm open wheel?
Sorry for the noob question. What kind of wheel base this wheel accept?
Does it have an air bag ?
What is the wheel base for this steering wheel ?
How do you change the displays?
Does it work on Sim Cube?
I really like the fact that it is NOT alcantara, all my alcantara wheel end up slippery becuase the alcantara gets crushed into a solid flat piece of cloth. yes i can clean it and it comes back a bit but always gets ruined quick, and yes i use gloves.
with witch motorbase are compatible these wheels?
GT3 and LMP wheels looks awesome but can I put it on Fanatec wheel base?
No
They would make even more money if they make them compatible for consoles.
While you could make them fit console compatible wheelbases, I think the difficulty would come from the software needed to run the LEDs and the Screen.
@@ChrisHaye do they use their own wheelbase on PC?
Question for the sim racers here. Which game is he using. Is it the official F1 game or something else more high end? I have the 2019 version which I love but always looking for the best experience.
Assetto Corsa.....the car he is driving is the RSS formula hybrid 2019
Value proposition for non pros is extremely low. Most of us wont use the wheel to its potencial or for what it was made. For that price I can buy a fanatec dd wheel with the bmw rim and their formula v2 rim and a set of csl pedals with loadcell. Te difference in quality will not be that noticeable for most of us and you will be just as well served. Sure that one might "feel" nicer in your hands but it is not worth 10x the price of a fanatec rim (I stree again that this is for us bot for professionals. For pros it is another argument). I struggle to think of a situation where I have $2400 to spend and ai decide to spend it on a single rim. I could do a full day track day with an lmp2 car for that ammount of money and that will be a lot better.
I get where you're coming from dude. But, there are plenty of people out there that spend £5000 on a set of golf clubs, or a custom shop Stratocaster. To each their own and all that.
Have to agree. Value proposition is not the right term. Its a fine piece of engineering but doesn't really hold value for sim racing.
@@ChrisHaye i would spend 5k on a fender faster than this because I could hope to be good enough to use the fender for its intended purpose. Further, I will spend about that value on sim racing gear in the near future (that is how I had the cost of the fanatec dd wheel rim and pedals off the top of my head) I just think that this particular item does not give you better performance (we can argue that nothing sounds like a fender stratocaster) and will not provide you with a better experience than a 10th of the price fanatec rim. Thar is my point. If i was a pro sim racer or racer and spent 10 hours a day using the simulator to improve myself and access to all that telemetry on the fly was of paramount importance to me, then such wheel might be justifiable. As is, I just don't think there is anything there for the average joe.
Ok, tl:dr, besides the "I want to have one factor", there is nothing appealing about this rim. It doesn't perform better than the competition and the average simracer wont use it nearly ebough to justify the industrial rade cobstruction.
Of course this is my opinion and I could be wrong.
Are they real Cosworth shifters or did they make a replica of them?
Does one quick release work with every wheel base?
Works on ps4 ?
It looks the real deal
Well after seeing it's 2400 pounds have decided to continue with my Logitech dfgt
includes this only the wheel or also a Wheelbase?
3:45 only if the game steering wheel screen was on the actual steering wheel
I'm fine with my g29....
(It's a g920 tho I just wanted to make it rhyme)
It has a cable sticking out at the back, there are better options.... that's a nobrainer!
When your sim wheel has more buttons than the in game wheel