How to Lighsaber Fight (Realistic)!!! - It’s Olympic Saber!!!
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:32 Why you don't need two hands
2:34 "Real Lightsabers" vs Replicas - Differences
4:03 Lightsabers are "Really fast"... But!
5:24 about Damiensaber Lightsabers
7:44 Fast hands are useful, fast feet even more.
8:40 How people would fight with a "Real Lightsaber"
9:40 What other Content Creators sudgest to do (Not ideal)
11:32 How I would approach the fight
13:13 General Tactics
14:28 Lightsaber and Olympic Saber (Without ROW)
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You expect us to take lightsaber advice from a guy who can't even deflect a simple blaster shot? Where are the backflips? The mind control? The force choke? ... I mean... do you even use the Force?!! 🤣
LoL!!
He uses the fior(c)e
I don't know. Lightsaber "blades" have enough physical presence to behave like a solid when they contact something sufficiently resistant (another lightsaber, certain metals like beskar and phrikite, etc.). That suggests that "friction" when cutting and wind resistance would still be a factor. It might even mean there is some appreciable mass involved. The mass and balance of the assembly itself is indeterminate (how much do kyber crystals weigh; how dense are the components that generate the containment field, etc). There are also indications that the phenomena that make generating a lightsaber possible have an effect on balance and handling (like the Darksaber getting "heavier" if not used appropriately). With all of that in mind, edge geometry may not matter to a lightsaber (other than the atypically shaped Darksaber), but I expect good, supportive cut body mechanics still would.
Yeah I know there are various lore thingy to motivate how the sword behaves. But to me most of them do not make sense. Yeah maybe there’s a little air drag made by whatever magical force field keeps that plasma (or whatever) in its place, but the mass would be negligible or zero. As plasma is really hot gas (and so with mass x volume really low).
No crossguard.....
Kylo Ren has entered the chat
LoL! But his cross guard can’t catch anything because its base is made of “handle” and not of “laser” ;-)
@@FedericoMalagutti If you were to cut into that part of the handle, there is "laser" underneath. They are vents for the main "laser" (actually plasma), which is generated further back in the handle. Think of the entire blade portion as being shaped like a T. That being said, I feel like there should be more lightsabers with beskar crossguards (or similar lightsaber resistant metals like phrik and cortosis.) Sorry, I'm a huge nerd.
@@chaos_omega exactly my thoughts too. Beskar is very rare and expensive maybe that's why it isn't used. But that's what I would make my lightsabre with
Thats the first thing my 10 yrbild said when she saw Kylo's lightsaber "thats stupid, if its pushed on it'll cutb his hand"
The cheapest option is they should have even a plain metal handle under the laser ports. That way, if an enemy is pushing down on the crossguard, the metal will atleats protect his hand.
2nd option, a Beskar crossguard...
3rd (and best) option, make the crossguard from Cortosis ore...
@@dunedainmom There's already metal there to protect his hand...?
Would like to see your reaction to Corridor-To The Death
I will check it out!
@@FedericoMalagutti Oh yeah, that's a good one! More realistic lightsaber combat.
Go for the half-swording Fede!!
Ahahahahahah!
You don't have to touch it, you can use the force. Hehehe.
Hello Federico!
interesting take here,
If I had to come down to visual media regarding lightsabers... I would say that fencing with lightsaber is almost similar to most of KENDO schools (correct me if I'm wrong here) actually, where you need to "smack" your opponent instead of "cut" at all.
So my approach would be more like kendo in this way, or handling a katana.
one thing to point out, Kaku Michio did a panel on one of Conventions some time ago and explained that if sabers were to "hum" or behave like they do in movies... it should be indeed PLASMA with a hot core.
cheers!
Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Yes the first examples of fights were based on Kendo, especially episode 4.
Kendo would be a good option but still I would go for a one handed approach with that weapon (Even if I prefer two handed swords to one handed one as you can easily understand by watching my channel lol).
But yeah, I agree ;-)
The approach to power generation, attack and defence in kendo is very kiri-otoshi oriented: a strong downward stroke which "cuts through" your opponents attack. This works quite well of your opponent is concerned with power generation along their central axis. It works less well if your opponent is using a first blood duelling style.
Of all the years I've known SW, this is the only interpretation that make sense to me, I only wish I knew this a decades ago. If anyone is aware of a similar idea before this video let me know.
Thanks ^^
@@FedericoMalagutti Have you thought about it only recently or for a very long time?
@@siegebug it’s years that I think this, but I never had the occasion to make a video about it because it’s not the subject of the channel.
Wow cool! Can't wait to see you play with the double-bladed lightsaber!
Great video I like the saber app to mute my saber during teaching if I accidentally turn the saber on. Our club also incorporates cane and some stick techniques to train students to look out for hand snipes
Makes a lot of sense!
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I use it like a 2 handed single stick!
This was far more interesting than I thought it would be.
One question please: You say cuts are more deadly with the Contained Plasma Beam but would they? They would all be instantly cauterized it seems to me.
Thanks ^_^
You cut through a chest like cutting through butter. Longsword cuts to be really damaging need to reach the arms, neck or head. While a lightsaber no matter which part of the body is, it goes through, it would be like cutting air.
Bleeding is comparatively not relevant when you can divide in half a person from top to bottom with basically zero effort.
@@FedericoMalagutti Well, when you put it that way. Thanks for the reply.
In SW "lore" the blade does have weight. Otherwise a great video! 😉
Oh shit. You got the clickbait title.
Ahahahahahah! Just for once, but as you can see it doesn’t really work for me. LoL
Am I the only person in the world that likes swords and HEMA but dislikes lightsabres? I enjoyed them in SW (when they were white and not coloured neons sticks), I liked them well enough in the other two movies, but from the sequels onwards they look dumber and dumber and these days I actively dislike them.
I think that they were supposed to be lightsabers in the idea that you can turn them off and thus not have to carry them when you don't need them. That was supposed to be the advantage, not all the nonsense I saw it devolve to over the time. They looked convenient and made sense in the setting of a SciFi fantasy universe, but the blaster was still supposed to be the superior weapon, and they were just supposed to have the role of a real 1800 or 1900 bladed weapon (when officers also started to carry a hand gun).
And the thing is that they would make sense to be used as sabres (quick one-handed slashes) or as rapiers, small-swords, foils (as the video suggested), but the two hand (longsword) use makes the least amount of sense.
I tend to agree with what you say. As much as I still like them for how they are portrayed by not thinking too much at how fighting looks like (That's the only way in which I can enjoy fighting in tv-series and films honestly XD), I agree that, well, blasters whould at least be better than how they are potrayed, they are worst than a nowadays pistol basically lol!
@@FedericoMalagutti And a point to make is that being worst that today's pistols, being used badly and all that detracts from the cool factor of the lightsabers. There's no valour in defeating an opponent that doesn't know what he's doing.
And I'm going to commit sacrilege on a HEMA channel and say that katanas are better, because watching Shogun, I was mesmerised by the acting and immersed so much in the 1600 Japan, that in the few scenes they showed a katana they meant business. They didn't look like some kids waving glow sticks at a rave party.
To apologise for my katana comment, I would like to say that in Captain Alatriste, the rapier duel felt visceral to me. I don't know Destreza enough to weigh in on the technique, but my body flinched at the stabs (because we all cut ourselves at some point, in the kitchen or elsewhere, so we can relate innately). I think that realism is needed when one wants to portray swords on screen, and I don't feel like that with lightsabers.
@@FiliiMartis Well, to put it bluntly, HEMAists who can't appreciate a katana, and are going berzerk about the subject, belong to yesterday's world and a whole different, kind of rudimentary narrative. There might be still misconseptions about their durability and force of their blade, as with the swords in general, but so what? In history they were admired in Europe for their beauty as well as their build...
Now, I find it kind of silly that people who learn european historical martial arts are basicly complaining about the pop culture version of a historical eastern sword that doesn't have anything to do with european swords. Why? The whole thing is so silly. Do they think they are learning some pop culture historical martial arts instead of real? What does it matter if someone in the internet thinks katana can cut steel and launch fireballs?
Well, this light saber sillyness might suit better for these kind of rhetorics. I'm sure there are people who are SERIOUS about light sabers, as with pop culture swords and pop culture in general. But I would rather be serious about training, becoming a better swordsman and a teacher etc., and even that is not serious, but a seriously fun thing to do.
@@puliturchannel7225 I made that statement more in jest. The only serious part is that representing a sword in media, movies, games in a subdued but realistic way has a greater impact (at least on me) than making a sword an uber weapon.
I don't dislike lightsabers, but they're not the same thing I like about historical weapons and fighting with them. HEMA is a deep, interesting subject to study and train and experiment with, lightsabers are just a fun cool space sword. I agree that their use got sillier and sillier the more movies were made. Nowadays I see lightsaber choreography as some kind of short hand for "And then they fought and fought mightily and with great skill". It's like how people die in operas. No one sings a death aria for five minutes, just like no one jumps around like a squirrel on amphetamine waving a glow stick when they fight. It's simply form of stage language used to communicate action and emotion to an audience. The real disconnect comes when Star Wars fans don't understand that the choreography is an allegory but try to interpret and use those moves as part of a sport. It's a naively literalist failure to understand what they've been watching.
14:43 Really? Stopcuts to the cuff are not possible in sport sabre?
The only requirement is that there is only one light.
They are theoretically possible but ROW makes them really complex to pull out in a counteroffensive way. Otherwise cutting to the arm in many other conditions is just fine!
Notice that by theory they are indeed possible, but it depends on how judges interpret the rules, especially the row itself, and apply it.
@@FedericoMalagutti Perhaps you understand this differently than I do, in which case I hope you do explain.
The technical approach to stopcuts which I was taught almost relies on RoW. In sabre, fall shorts are your bread and butter, you will spend almost as much time training those as you will the lunge, but more than you will the parry-riposte. Mechanically a stop cut is an extension of the arm into the opponents advance followed by an immediate retreat with the feeling of a fall short. Since it is not an attack into preparation there is no RoW decision to be made thus the requirement that there is only one light. The opportunity for a stop cut is when the opponent has RoW and is content ot march down the piste and you cannot pull an attack from them to fall short.
Where I suspect we understand this differently is that HEMA seems to have its' own RoW which is seldom acknowledged as such. In essence RoW is a rule for how to handle doubles, foil and sabre grant it to the attacker, epee a point to each (first blood duel: honor has been satisfied), and HEMA seems to grant it to the defender. This is an unfotunate trade off between suicidal attacks and suicidal defence. Do we prefer the attack without a closeout, or the riposte without a parry? Should we reward high commitment or high tenacity in the attack and defence?
Perhaps stopcuts are structured differently in your fencing due to these considerations.
@@Ianmar1 it may be so, for sure.
@@Ianmar1 i searched through various counterattack videos right now and I have to say you are completely right.
I was of the idea that the weapon on line countered this actions but I’ve seen that when the lunge is landed and the defender steps backward on tipe hitting the arm the attacker is not considered anymore on the attack. I’ve seen some uncertainty or even weird judgement when both swords make contact, but not when the counterattack with fall short lands!
My bad!
lightsabers defy physics, i dont understand why this is a conversation in the hema community at all honestly
It’s just for fun man. It’s not a discussion in the HEMA community, I simply wanted to make a video on the subject
@@FedericoMalagutti This discussion is interesting to me for understanding Chinese Han Dynasty swords, modern historical reproductions to be found in LK Chen's line including his Flying Phoenix. Like the lightsaber, Han swords have long, light blades, long handles and no appreciable hand guard. The stances and techniques are lost to history - so your discussion of hand and arm positioning, and footwork is helpful.
@@Michael-yf1wo well by the description you made I think that this fighting approach can at least partially fit the weapon ;-)
Hi, I'm average hema guy. I don't like fun at all. Only serious hema. It's my life. The only thing I live for. So much so that I can entertain the idea of fantasy because I can't suspend my disbelief and just play with laser swords for fun because it somewhat translates to my serious hobby
@@malingrant5794 gne gne gne!!!! XD