Very good analysis! Firefly is related to the stalleron hunters, we know this because Sam was the companion that apparently betrayed her in the dreamscape. Also, robin's voice suggests that sparkle has replaced her from the start. Because sparkle is not a skilled singer, it is likely that she cannot replicate robin's voice to its fullest.
If Sparkle did replace Robin from the start, how did the body stay intact up until we see her? Wouldn't it been splatted already when you're dead like Firefly? If she died in the real world, how could her body in dreamscape make it and die if Robin already died during the beginning?
Been waiting for your take on Penacony. I was waiting for your thoughts on Misha bc I also have a theory around him being connected directly to Watchmaker. (Like he could be the "Watchmaker's legacy"). He has so many clues around the concept of time. Even his iris is a keyhole. "A Child's Dream" map is like a whole idea of him. How he seems to be ignored by others except the MC. And how he is aware of the darkness in the dreamscape (proof via his e-mails). There's still a lot of things to unfold. I felt so sad seeng the To be continued screen. Cannot wait for the next parts.
Yes! I was actually thinking about including Misha in this video, however I chose to not talk about him yet because I wanted this video to be a 2.0 "recap with some explanations" But his role and connection with the watchmaker and the True Dreamscape is undeniable :)
I actually think Acheron is the Emanator of Nihility, due to the new relic set. If you look at her drip marketing, you’ll spot some red flowers, which are the exact same ones as the flowers on the armor of the "Pioneer Diver of the Deep Waters" relic set. Now, this relic set talks about Frebass, who was a young Nameless and had "a friend with a long sword whose past was unknown". You can connect the dots here, as in the 2.0 trailbraze quest, Acheron said that the TB reminded her of an old friend. Now the " friend" of Febrass encouraged her to search a path deeper than Akivili's, which resulted in them diving into some black hole, which the "friend" confirmed was into IX themself. My theory is that this friend was Acheron, and since the only story we have of her is seemingly related to the Nihility, Acheron herself is an Emanator of Nihility. Genius move by Hoyoverse by hyping her to be Finality tho lmao
During 1.6 livestream Owlbert says Acheron follows the path of the hunt, and he said so for each of the penacony character for example Preservation for adventurine, Remembrance for Blackswan, Destruction for sam, Elation for Sparkle and so on
@@iAmPrice remember that she said everyone calls her that but the truth says otherwise. She is definitelt the emenator of finality . her eyes have the finality logo
@@Auramaki_ path of a character and playable path is different from what i can tell, Jing Yuan is termed as the general of the hunt but he is an Erudition character
Imagine if there was a third Masked Fool that sent the invites and made the Something Unto Death kill specific targets just to mess with everyone and make the whole thing a joke to him/her
Another weird thing about aventurine during the conversation with Ratio is that he claims to have met acheron who introduced herself as a galaxy ranger. But acheron introducing herself as a galaxy ranger only happens once he leaves your room. I don't know if this means anything or if this is just an oversight, but you pointing out the really obvious parallels with sparkle reminded me of that
for me the most sus is misha. the floating text in the dreamscape mentioning a mikhail, which is the formal form of misha. more likely for a kid to be called misha than mikhail, unless the other person wasn't close to him at all. and he doesn't exist only in the dreamscape & is the same both there and irl so i doubt any exists-only-as-dream-memory-bubble deaging shenanigans is going on 🤔 if they make mikhail and misha separate people i will be so fucking mad it's literally like if there was a bob and a robert and they invented a different guy to be robert
On top of that, Misha is canonically known to repair watches Misha’s grandfather is implied to have been a Nameless, and Firefly theorizes that the Watchmaker was a Nameless. Also, a readable in the Child’s Dream part talks about continuing something that a grandfather started.
Also it weird because no one acknowledges Misha. When you first meet him, March doesn’t say anything. When you rescue Acheron and Misha, no one acknowledges him besides Clockie. Misha is also surprised when you tell him that you remember him.
I saw a video theorizing that misha could be a descendant of this Mikhail. We were told by himeko before we even got to penacony that we may find descendants of the nameless that stayed on the planet.
my personal theory is that the watchmaker and his legacy is connected to akivili and the astral express considering the invite and express members who decided to stay on penacony
Firefly is part of the Iris Family. "The Family" is actually made up of 5 other families: iris, oak, bloodhound, nightingale and alfalfa; Sunday for example is part of the Oak Family. When the game says "The Family" it could be... any of those 5 families.
"Firefly: There are things... I'm hiding from you... Firefly: I'm not a local, and there's a reason why the Bloodhound Family is after me... I also have my own purpose for joining you on your journey..." her dialogue after the altercation with sampo(sparkle) seems to me shes not local, do you think theres a good reason for her lying in that part?
@@nar1768 Yes she might not be local. But she also sais that she was adopted by "the family". Penacony was a penal colony (a jail) it had many non-local people. EDIT: also from those dialogues i understand that the families are not on good terms with eachother.
regarding the robin voice, i did hear alot of talk that the robin we met at the start was actually sparkle, as well as the sampo we met with firefly, the backing to this would be that, during the tb mission, sampo's voice is clearly much deeper, but during the sparkle mission, specifically at the end, his voice was normal, as well as the fact that sampo left penacony before the tb mission started signaled to by the end of the sparkle mission, do you think this could work?
Idk if you saw it clearly but it's very clear that the MC never saw the real Sampo so far. We, as players only saw him in Black Swan's companion quest. All Sampo that we see with trailblazer is actually Sparkle. It's not just even his voice but at how Sampo talked was wrong. Sparkle also mistaken Firefly as March 7th bc she didn't know what she looked like.
She is a puppet from the Everflame mansion, remember the trailer Puppet. Oh i dont believe Ifrit is dead. We have been told you can impriosn Energy Lifeforms but not kill them. Okay maybe an Emenator is able, who knows.. they made a mystery thriller and it has 3 episodes, we started just now :)
Firefly is Sam. The way she is very descriptive about Sampo’s features, kind of seemed “Roboty” like when Sam scanned Acheron and Black Swan in the fight. And I have a feeling that Acheron is somewhat a traitor. When she keeps apologizing when Firefly died saying “I have no choice”.
My theory is that we have never actually met the real Robin and it was Sparkle all along because her voice was "off" even in reality. Because Robin's first line in the quest: "He said you are the most dashing person in Penacony how interesting?". (When Aventurine compliments Sunday) Which in my opinion is really off because Robin is not really in good terms with the family (we can learn this from Singlers world quest) so I don't think Robin would even follow Sunday kinda everywhere in the Reverie. Also when the Aventurine and Sparkle scene happens when they talk about Sunday, I don't really think Sparkle would have followed Aventurine everywhere, so she would only know these if she was with Sunday and Aventurine in the Reverie. I also do belive Sunday knew Robin is not Robin at the begining the reason why he didn't turn her off because it would've been too much trouble and rather confronted her after the quest. I could still go on why but this comment is already to long hehe.
1:30 "all of the illusions are talking about events that haven't happened yet" How do you know the BS/Sparkle dialog did not happen before we entered Penacony? Also, the Sunday/Robin discussion about her voice. Only the Ratio Ave dialog looks like it may be in the future.
@@MrLoreAddictthe dialogue between sparkle and bs was in a dream bubble, so it could’ve happened before we arrived. also, in the dream bubble the real sampo was with them but when we arrived he seemed to have already left penacony
It's funny how Misha wasn't really mentioned in this video despite being released, having a similar-looking pin to the nameless and no lines of dialogue with any of the cast that isn't us and the dream-created sentient beings. not even the socialite that March 7th acknowledged his existence which brings into question, is he the same "thing" that Clockie is? Is that what when he was saved along with Achereon no one said anything to him that wasn't us or Clockie? Also, what was up with that dreamscape that was clearly built around his experiences in the past
Regarding the death of firefly. I am really unsure if she is really dead since we know that the material of the dreamscape isnt real(firefly pointed this out during her tour where she said you can review cars but they have to be shipped in the real world). So why would an attack in the dreamscape actually hurt the person? The Trailblazer dropped into the dreamscape as well but seemed to be unharmed afterwards. Whats even more confusing is why robin is concidered dead even by her brother. We found her corpse in the dreamscape as well so we dont know what actually happened to her body.
Robins voice was wrong because it wasnt Robin, Robin was dead already and Sparkle was filling in for her, we can assume this to be true from her dialogue with Sunday at the very end of the quest, Sparkle was ALWAYS Robin every time we saw her, which means Robin probably died way before
If Acheron is an Emanator of Finality and she keeps talking about how Trailblazer reminds her of an old friend she lost, doesn’t this mean she might be the Mei from the HI3 universe? Mei might’ve stolen the power of Finality from Kiana to save her from her fate
I hadn’t even considered Sparkle being with the Annihilation Gang. Everything seems to point to her being with the Stellaron hunters, but that could be a red herring.
I don't think Aventurine is Sparkle talking to Dr. Ratio. Then we would have to assume that she was also in the MC room, because Aventurine says that he just met Acheron. And I'm not sure that she is able to find out who the "real" Aventurine has already come into contact with. She didn’t even know what March 7 looked like, although she could at least ask Sampo the color of her hair.
Yeah I really doubt that being the case as that would imply that sparkle was the one we meet in the beginning as well since aventurine talks about his stuff (cornerstones etc) being taken away when he speaks to ratio. Also the fact that he initially seems put off by the comment ratio makes about him essentially being a slave before putting on a poker face again, it wouldn't make much sense if it was sparkle and the theory kinda takes away from aventurine as a character imo
Black Swan warns the player, twice, that people can lie. She even includes herself as potential liar, with caveat that Remembrance cannot lie. We can not, and should not, assume a characters dialog is true or true exposition to the players. Characters may have limited knowledge, or limited perspective of the knowledge they have. We all must wait for the adventure to play out.
you forgot a why so serious when trailblazer hands dan heng his letter and why was robin in ex adventurines bathub the room i traiblazer was supposed to be in as we got attacked by death memory zone meme
Assuming Firefly didn't lie. She is a member of the family. The Iris family, just as Robin is from the Oak family. Both fall under the collective "The Family"
@ohhpingpong5554 everyone and their dog knows that. I'm talking about the comment in the video about what faction she belongs to. Did you watch the video before responding to my comment or did you just want some attention?
Okay so idk why no ones talking about it, but during the 1.6 livestream when all the characters from penacony were getting teased, Owlbert says Acheron follows the path of the hunt. Does that not mean she in an Emanator of that path??
The Galaxy Rangers follow the path of The Hunt. But thanks to the illusions showing the future in her dreamscape, the changing red text and her weird behaviour, it's assumed that she is lying about being a Galaxy Ranger and is instead linked to Finality (or Nihility according to some).
Yes, there might be a chance that someone can rescue there memory inside the dream im the future but basically they're dead at this point until they reveal if its possible
@@zasshu.7240 Sam is an Iron Knight of the Republic of Glamoth. If you want to go the "JARVIS" route then, yes it could be possible. The Iron Knights were build and controlled by their empress to fight The Swarm. There is no evidence however that Sam can or cannot have free will. He could be controlled by Firefly but then again, he could also be controlled by Elio - The leader of the Stellaron Hunters. What i said earlier is proven in game; how Sam functions is all speculation so far.
Have you guys done the Lesley Dean mission? My theory is that they used the collective memories of the Stellaron Hunters to create a memory of the armor to aid Firefly in her role for Penacony for Elio's script.
Very good analysis! Firefly is related to the stalleron hunters, we know this because Sam was the companion that apparently betrayed her in the dreamscape. Also, robin's voice suggests that sparkle has replaced her from the start. Because sparkle is not a skilled singer, it is likely that she cannot replicate robin's voice to its fullest.
If Sparkle did replace Robin from the start, how did the body stay intact up until we see her? Wouldn't it been splatted already when you're dead like Firefly? If she died in the real world, how could her body in dreamscape make it and die if Robin already died during the beginning?
Good catch on the Dr. Ratio conversation, I completely missed that
Been waiting for your take on Penacony. I was waiting for your thoughts on Misha bc I also have a theory around him being connected directly to Watchmaker. (Like he could be the "Watchmaker's legacy"). He has so many clues around the concept of time. Even his iris is a keyhole. "A Child's Dream" map is like a whole idea of him. How he seems to be ignored by others except the MC. And how he is aware of the darkness in the dreamscape (proof via his e-mails).
There's still a lot of things to unfold. I felt so sad seeng the To be continued screen. Cannot wait for the next parts.
Yes! I was actually thinking about including Misha in this video, however I chose to not talk about him yet because I wanted this video to be a 2.0 "recap with some explanations"
But his role and connection with the watchmaker and the True Dreamscape is undeniable :)
Thank you for this! I love going back and looking at everything for things I may have missed in the lore and story!
I actually think Acheron is the Emanator of Nihility, due to the new relic set. If you look at her drip marketing, you’ll spot some red flowers, which are the exact same ones as the flowers on the armor of the "Pioneer Diver of the Deep Waters" relic set.
Now, this relic set talks about Frebass, who was a young Nameless and had "a friend with a long sword whose past was unknown". You can connect the dots here, as in the 2.0 trailbraze quest, Acheron said that the TB reminded her of an old friend. Now the " friend" of Febrass encouraged her to search a path deeper than Akivili's, which resulted in them diving into some black hole, which the "friend" confirmed was into IX themself. My theory is that this friend was Acheron, and since the only story we have of her is seemingly related to the Nihility, Acheron herself is an Emanator of Nihility.
Genius move by Hoyoverse by hyping her to be Finality tho lmao
During 1.6 livestream Owlbert says Acheron follows the path of the hunt, and he said so for each of the penacony character for example Preservation for adventurine, Remembrance for Blackswan, Destruction for sam, Elation for Sparkle and so on
@@iAmPrice remember that she said everyone calls her that but the truth says otherwise. She is definitelt the emenator of finality . her eyes have the finality logo
@@iAmPriceyeah I never understood this... For example, sparkle follows the path of elation, but is a harmony character. Huh?
@@Auramaki_ path of a character and playable path is different from what i can tell, Jing Yuan is termed as the general of the hunt but he is an Erudition character
We have a whole quest of setting up murders. With Sparkle. Robins death was likely a set up as well.
This! Red Herring and all ;)
Imagine if there was a third Masked Fool that sent the invites and made the Something Unto Death kill specific targets just to mess with everyone and make the whole thing a joke to him/her
Tbh that would be funny af, good for them
Aha himself trolling his own followers is so on brand honestly
"Nah i'd win"
Duke Inferno
Du/ke
Another weird thing about aventurine during the conversation with Ratio is that he claims to have met acheron who introduced herself as a galaxy ranger.
But acheron introducing herself as a galaxy ranger only happens once he leaves your room.
I don't know if this means anything or if this is just an oversight, but you pointing out the really obvious parallels with sparkle reminded me of that
wow you're a true detective...!! 🕵Thank you so much!!
this mf knew Firefly was a stelaron hunter all the time
for me the most sus is misha. the floating text in the dreamscape mentioning a mikhail, which is the formal form of misha. more likely for a kid to be called misha than mikhail, unless the other person wasn't close to him at all. and he doesn't exist only in the dreamscape & is the same both there and irl so i doubt any exists-only-as-dream-memory-bubble deaging shenanigans is going on 🤔
if they make mikhail and misha separate people i will be so fucking mad it's literally like if there was a bob and a robert and they invented a different guy to be robert
On top of that, Misha is canonically known to repair watches
Misha’s grandfather is implied to have been a Nameless, and Firefly theorizes that the Watchmaker was a Nameless. Also, a readable in the Child’s Dream part talks about continuing something that a grandfather started.
@@awesomeperson5150 OH! named after a family member, that would track too
Also it weird because no one acknowledges Misha. When you first meet him, March doesn’t say anything. When you rescue Acheron and Misha, no one acknowledges him besides Clockie. Misha is also surprised when you tell him that you remember him.
I saw a video theorizing that misha could be a descendant of this Mikhail. We were told by himeko before we even got to penacony that we may find descendants of the nameless that stayed on the planet.
my personal theory is that the watchmaker and his legacy is connected to akivili and the astral express considering the invite and express members who decided to stay on penacony
You have one of the best. If not the best explanation of PEAKony. Good Work!
Firefly is part of the Iris Family. "The Family" is actually made up of 5 other families: iris, oak, bloodhound, nightingale and alfalfa; Sunday for example is part of the Oak Family. When the game says "The Family" it could be... any of those 5 families.
"Firefly: There are things... I'm hiding from you...
Firefly: I'm not a local, and there's a reason why the Bloodhound Family is after me... I also have my own purpose for joining you on your journey..."
her dialogue after the altercation with sampo(sparkle) seems to me shes not local, do you think theres a good reason for her lying in that part?
@@nar1768 Yes she might not be local. But she also sais that she was adopted by "the family". Penacony was a penal colony (a jail) it had many non-local people.
EDIT: also from those dialogues i understand that the families are not on good terms with eachother.
Waiiit! So Dr. Ratio was actually speaking with Sparkle?! Holly shet...
I didn't even realize 😮
As much as I don't trust Firefly, I want her to still be with us.
I trust Acheron…i felt like she and Firefly are the only genuine ones in Penacony aside from our Astral Express gang
regarding the robin voice, i did hear alot of talk that the robin we met at the start was actually sparkle, as well as the sampo we met with firefly, the backing to this would be that, during the tb mission, sampo's voice is clearly much deeper, but during the sparkle mission, specifically at the end, his voice was normal, as well as the fact that sampo left penacony before the tb mission started signaled to by the end of the sparkle mission, do you think this could work?
Idk if you saw it clearly but it's very clear that the MC never saw the real Sampo so far. We, as players only saw him in Black Swan's companion quest. All Sampo that we see with trailblazer is actually Sparkle. It's not just even his voice but at how Sampo talked was wrong. Sparkle also mistaken Firefly as March 7th bc she didn't know what she looked like.
OMG Sparkle is impersonating Adventurine in the beginning? That's dope
She is a puppet from the Everflame mansion, remember the trailer Puppet. Oh i dont believe Ifrit is dead. We have been told you can impriosn Energy Lifeforms but not kill them. Okay maybe an Emenator is able, who knows.. they made a mystery thriller and it has 3 episodes, we started just now :)
Firefly is Sam. The way she is very descriptive about Sampo’s features, kind of seemed “Roboty” like when Sam scanned Acheron and Black Swan in the fight. And I have a feeling that Acheron is somewhat a traitor. When she keeps apologizing when Firefly died saying “I have no choice”.
His detective skills are impeccable. Aged incredibly well.
My theory is that we have never actually met the real Robin and it was Sparkle all along because her voice was "off" even in reality. Because Robin's first line in the quest: "He said you are the most dashing person in Penacony how interesting?". (When Aventurine compliments Sunday) Which in my opinion is really off because Robin is not really in good terms with the family (we can learn this from Singlers world quest) so I don't think Robin would even follow Sunday kinda everywhere in the Reverie. Also when the Aventurine and Sparkle scene happens when they talk about Sunday, I don't really think Sparkle would have followed Aventurine everywhere, so she would only know these if she was with Sunday and Aventurine in the Reverie. I also do belive Sunday knew Robin is not Robin at the begining the reason why he didn't turn her off because it would've been too much trouble and rather confronted her after the quest. I could still go on why but this comment is already to long hehe.
Good catch man rhat was definitely sparkle and i dont think anyone else noticed
1:30 "all of the illusions are talking about events that haven't happened yet"
How do you know the BS/Sparkle dialog did not happen before we entered Penacony? Also, the Sunday/Robin discussion about her voice. Only the Ratio Ave dialog looks like it may be in the future.
The dialog between Black Swan and Sparkle occured after the Penacony main quest. You can see the chronological order of quests in Fate's Atlas.
@@MrLoreAddictthe dialogue between sparkle and bs was in a dream bubble, so it could’ve happened before we arrived. also, in the dream bubble the real sampo was with them but when we arrived he seemed to have already left penacony
It's funny how Misha wasn't really mentioned in this video despite being released, having a similar-looking pin to the nameless and no lines of dialogue with any of the cast that isn't us and the dream-created sentient beings.
not even the socialite that March 7th acknowledged his existence which brings into question, is he the same "thing" that Clockie is? Is that what when he was saved along with Achereon no one said anything to him that wasn't us or Clockie?
Also, what was up with that dreamscape that was clearly built around his experiences in the past
Regarding the death of firefly. I am really unsure if she is really dead since we know that the material of the dreamscape isnt real(firefly pointed this out during her tour where she said you can review cars but they have to be shipped in the real world). So why would an attack in the dreamscape actually hurt the person? The Trailblazer dropped into the dreamscape as well but seemed to be unharmed afterwards. Whats even more confusing is why robin is concidered dead even by her brother. We found her corpse in the dreamscape as well so we dont know what actually happened to her body.
Only thing breaking down is our hearts
Robins voice was wrong because it wasnt Robin, Robin was dead already and Sparkle was filling in for her, we can assume this to be true from her dialogue with Sunday at the very end of the quest, Sparkle was ALWAYS Robin every time we saw her, which means Robin probably died way before
If Acheron is an Emanator of Finality and she keeps talking about how Trailblazer reminds her of an old friend she lost, doesn’t this mean she might be the Mei from the HI3 universe? Mei might’ve stolen the power of Finality from Kiana to save her from her fate
I hadn’t even considered Sparkle being with the Annihilation Gang. Everything seems to point to her being with the Stellaron hunters, but that could be a red herring.
I don't think Aventurine is Sparkle talking to Dr. Ratio. Then we would have to assume that she was also in the MC room, because Aventurine says that he just met Acheron. And I'm not sure that she is able to find out who the "real" Aventurine has already come into contact with. She didn’t even know what March 7 looked like, although she could at least ask Sampo the color of her hair.
Yeah I really doubt that being the case as that would imply that sparkle was the one we meet in the beginning as well since aventurine talks about his stuff (cornerstones etc) being taken away when he speaks to ratio.
Also the fact that he initially seems put off by the comment ratio makes about him essentially being a slave before putting on a poker face again, it wouldn't make much sense if it was sparkle and the theory kinda takes away from aventurine as a character imo
amazing
1:24 i hope its me caelus 💍 i only trust black swan
Black Swan warns the player, twice, that people can lie. She even includes herself as potential liar, with caveat that Remembrance cannot lie.
We can not, and should not, assume a characters dialog is true or true exposition to the players. Characters may have limited knowledge, or limited perspective of the knowledge they have. We all must wait for the adventure to play out.
Can't even trust Pom-pom at this point man.
you forgot a why so serious when trailblazer hands dan heng his letter and why was robin in ex adventurines bathub the room i traiblazer was supposed to be in as we got attacked by death memory zone meme
Assuming Firefly didn't lie. She is a member of the family. The Iris family, just as Robin is from the Oak family. Both fall under the collective "The Family"
yeah uh no she literally said she was a stowaway
and fire fly is sam
@ohhpingpong5554 everyone and their dog knows that. I'm talking about the comment in the video about what faction she belongs to. Did you watch the video before responding to my comment or did you just want some attention?
wait, maybe the trailblazer observing the bodies makes them dissapear?
why tho
and they disappeared in different ways (firefly burst into water, robin turned into bubbles)
Okay so idk why no ones talking about it, but during the 1.6 livestream when all the characters from penacony were getting teased, Owlbert says Acheron follows the path of the hunt. Does that not mean she in an Emanator of that path??
The Galaxy Rangers follow the path of The Hunt. But thanks to the illusions showing the future in her dreamscape, the changing red text and her weird behaviour,
it's assumed that she is lying about being a Galaxy Ranger and is instead linked to Finality (or Nihility according to some).
@@MrLoreAddict oh welp that makes more sense now if her identity as a galaxy ranger is been called into question
I feel like a character dies every update this game might kill Trilblazer once more.
When firefly said his steps are strong but barely audible, I knew he was Sampo. "I HAVE A SPECIAL WAY OF WALKING CALLED INVISIBLE SNOW WALKING"
NL?
Firefly is Stelleron Hunter SAM
Do we really know if dying in dream is actually dying in the real world?
Yes, there might be a chance that someone can rescue there memory inside the dream im the future but basically they're dead at this point until they reveal if its possible
Firefly is sam
no she is not. in the quest she literally talks with "somebody" that she calls "MECH". Is there any other mech in Penacony?
@@cerebrus_gachaIt's possible she's the pilot but Sam themself is just an AI in the suit or something
Like some JARVIS to a Tony Stark style thing
@@zasshu.7240 Sam is an Iron Knight of the Republic of Glamoth. If you want to go the "JARVIS" route then, yes it could be possible. The Iron Knights were build and controlled by their empress to fight The Swarm. There is no evidence however that Sam can or cannot have free will. He could be controlled by Firefly but then again, he could also be controlled by Elio - The leader of the Stellaron Hunters. What i said earlier is proven in game; how Sam functions is all speculation so far.
Have you guys done the Lesley Dean mission? My theory is that they used the collective memories of the Stellaron Hunters to create a memory of the armor to aid Firefly in her role for Penacony for Elio's script.