Matek F405 Wing - FCB for planes - Awesome!
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2018
- Banggood purchase link - bit.ly/2LvjXzy
Serious iNav flight control board dedicated to fixed wing. Oh yes, the future has arrived! Overview and initial setup of this amazing FCB with 7 powered servo outputs, 6 UARTs (that's where you plug other stuff like GPS, reciever and sensors in), 4 separate onboard BECs: 5v 5A for servos (or 6V or 7.2V) , 9v for FPV gear, 5V for board power.
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I been considering getting this for a while.. seems very well tought and saves tons of wiring and external stuff compared to older APM setups
Another very informative and helpful video, many thanks Andrew
Love this FC. I am getting another one
Just pulled the trigger on the f405 to put in my Bae hawk 4s build. Thanks for the video!
Oh that will be cool
Great video, must have one of those FCs
was thinking about using a quad FC but the matek 405 makes sense. Thanks Andrew!
The Wing range of board is excellent, all the BECs and filtered power you need.
Thanks Andrew, Just came across this board, low and behold, you have vids on it, you legend!
Timing! It's such a well thought out board
Thanks again Andrew for a very clear and precise "how to" and review!
It is a massive help to me as I am currently putting together a SW28 and I am extremely keen to get it right!;
Thanks again!
Cheers
Robert
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I stupidly lost my login password. I would love any tricks you can offer me
@Reuben Marcellus Instablaster :)
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Thanks so much, you really help me out !
@Reuben Marcellus glad I could help :D
You have made my life better right now.
It is revolutionary, love it
Ive been using the Omnibus F4 v2 as well for Inav in wings....with great success, I might add. However, after watching this video, and reading a bit about it, I'm beginning to believe that this is the route I need to be on. Thanks Andrew! I appreciate you and your videos.
Yes this makes it a lot neater and easier to setup
Andrew Newton Im glad. As said really looking forward to your experience and flight review. Funny remmeber a time when you had no experience with them now the everyday mans go to. Reason as basically its your fault Im flying! ;-)
Haha, happy to be at fault
ha ha ha ha....sometimes its good to be the "guilty party"
Hello again, Andrew! I've been dragging my feet on this but, after reading some more about this flight controller and watching some more videos on it, I've finally got one ordered. I have a rather large plane that I'm going to be installing this flight controller in. Thanks for all the videos and reviews that you do!!!
Thanks Brian I will do. I am about to purchase a new flight controller that uses inav. I just wanted to make sure I didn't need even more parts and cables to connect the two!
Regards Robert
i love mine. I have it in a mini talon and it's great
How did you go with the talon set up Im about to set up a Nano Talon
Hi Andrew,
It's about time a dedicated airplane FC arrived. :-)
Yeah, I agree
Fixed wing flight controllers have been around for years
Brian S , true, but not with enough uarts to get everything on a plane. And before you ask; telemetry, GPS, air speed sensor, Bluetooth, s.bus
Matek makes good stuff.. Check their 5/12V PDBs for that Omnibus F4 Pro so the wiring looks nice and clean.. ;)
Found it , done,thanks
Nice one Frank. Well done.
One is on its way, so mush cleaner
New subscriber here. Great show. Very informative and easy to watch. Will definitely check that fc out.
Thanks and welcome
So far I ‘m using 3 of this fc, no issue n no more pixhawk in the future build....
Same here, I have 3 and F411
Great you have this. I have yet to get set mine up as I've been playing with nitro.
I'm sure you'll do good things with it and sure I'll copy fairly closely. Ha ha. Fun for us to have.
Make sure you check out Matt and Pawel's videos too (Linked in my "Worth Watching" side bar). I learn all this stuff from them.
Andrew Newton. I first found Pawell from his review of it. Love his involvement in iNav. Yeah, Matt is a treasure trove.
I got one last week. Maiden tomorrow in a Skywalker Smart twin motor. Easiest inav build I have ever. Hardest bit was soldering all the pin headers - shame it doesn't come pre-soldered. To be honest the board is great but the Smart is iffy, so fingers crossed.
Good luck, I'll have to check out the Smart
Maybe give it a miss until I try. S1100 at the moment seems a much better twin engine wing. I had a hell of a time making COG and had to add 70 grams of nose weight even with a 3000 mah 4s. Space is very very tight and impossible to get a big enough battery in it to make COG. Mind you the S800 is the same unless you add a brick sized HD camera in the nose and that is an OK wing.
Can't send pics or words with youtube so this is specifically for you ua-cam.com/video/O497lNtWWXM/v-deo.html
Andrew, would love to know how to set up a single servo in INAV to control a camera, rotation only. Fixed Wing, have everything else sorted. Only via SBUS and the FC. I know I can do it via a RX that has both SBUS and PWM. FrSky has forgotten about us FW guys, all their new stuff does not have PWM.
Glad to see someone putting some time into INAV Fixed Wing, thanks for your work.
Easy with iNav 2.0 Peter. Just did exactly that yesterday. I'll do a video on it.
Thanks Andrew, looking forward to it.
Hi@@AndrewNewton had a look at your vids, but couldn't find a review on the Matek F722. Have you done one yet?
If so, appreciate a link. Cheers 👽
G'day mate. Have you set the f405 up with the R9m with the Mavlink or s-port working? As new to these trying to work out how connect s-port. I do realise your using Inav but hoping you may have tested Arduplane.
O just got my first Bixler 3 today looks great. Hope we can flags in soon when lockdown finishes.
None of the above, just straight iNav for me
Andrew, get yourself the new Matek-F411-Wing FC, BG has them in stock. I have a F405 in a StratoSurfer and love it, but the F411 is way smaller and perfect for wings or other planes that don't need all the UARTs.
On the list, thanks
Hi Andrew, I've got one of these in my Nano Talon and it performs great (well it did until I decided to experiment with Inav 2.0 releases candidates lol) Next step is to do the flat wing conversion and try again with a more stable version. Matek seem to be on their game at the moment, I wonder when they will bring out an F7 version? Love your videos, keep up the good work.
F7 is already here I believe
Hi Andrew, I'm running a Matek F7 STD in my Ranger 1600 and it's great but it requires a separate PDB. I'd like to see the F7 in a single board format like this one.
Thanks for all your videos and help,while soldering pins to my f405-wing for the gps with build in compass, I think I damaged tx4 and tx6 I see no traces going to either port, is it possible to use tx6 and rx6 instead and everything still work? Thanks again
Yes you can put GPS on any spare UART. 1,3,5 and 6 are available.
very nice board indeed. I've colour coded every pin which was a pita getting all aligned properly. next board will just put em on in one go.
what I don't like is that inav won't let us use/resource s2
You mean that you can't use S2 for a servo? You can use S2 for a second motor. I agree that it would be nice to be able to utilize the S2 pad for an additional servo, but this is with any iNav FC.
exactly. would like to see the resource function move over to inav. makes alot of sense for fixed wing
Andrew thank you for posting this video. i have this fc and been working great with sbus protocol connected to an immersionrc ghost atto receiver. Did an upgrade to the latest and now it will not connect. Was wondering if you have any info to share on this. Thanks.
Upgrade to the latest INAV?
@@AndrewNewton yes. iNav 3. Sent immersionrc email for support and posted on Facebook. No word yet.
Hi Andrew, I want to get into this iNAV for fixed wing stuff and I have obtained a Matek F405 from Banggood following your link, plus GPS and other bits. However, I now realise I may have a problem as I fly all my planes with a Spektrum DX8 G2 transmitter and compatible receivers, none of which have Sbus. I do actually have a Futaba T6K and some receivers with Sbus that I could fall back on but I would prefer to use the Spektrum. Any ideas?
Thanks Mike. DSM2 is mentioned on the Matek F405-Wing page, but I know nothing about Spectrum
I have just noticed that Spektrum have a couple of what they call serial receivers (SPM 4648 and 4649T) for quads, which are designed to interface with flight controllers and DX transmitters. Perhaps they can also be used for fixed wing in iNAV? I guess I need to study iNAV a bit more and I will give Spektrum support a call. Will keep you posted. Keep up the great work Andrew.
Hello again. Sorry. One more question. Can you communicate to the FC during flight via Mac Link? Thanks heaps again. CP
Mav Link? Never tried it sorry
does this also have autopilot? Or only flight stabilization? I have a couple other OSD/Autopilot controllers from way before race quad flight controllers and those all include an autopilot that will engage when you lose radio signal, video or feel lazy about flying back. Just curious if this has that feature or if I should spend a little more for something that has autopilot.
iNav AutoPilot
hi will this work good if you want to use the tango2 crossfire even for a fixed wing setup?
Will work with any SBUS receiver
Hi Andrew. I have ruined the solder pads on S1 motor connections. Is it possible to use the S2 pads with only one motor?
Yes I'm sure that will be OK
Hello Andrew. Can you help me. Which gps and vtx should pair with this fc. Thanks
Suitable GPS units are linked in the description and my FPV gear is there too.
Hi Andrew. By using an s.port receiver with the F405 (and additional sensors), would I be able to view / listen to the telemetry data on the transmitter ? Alternatively, can older D8 Frsky telemetry receivers (or compatibles) be used instead ?
I believe you can use SPort with the F405 but I haven't yet. Oscar Liang has a page about it on his blog. Probably not D8 receivers
@@AndrewNewton I'll have a look at Oscar Liang's page. Thanks again for your help, and your excellent review!
Pawel shows how ua-cam.com/video/-cu8gO9px8M/v-deo.html
@@AndrewNewton Thanks very much for the helpful link ! 🙂
Hey friend how do you trim the servos with that flight ✈️ controller? I can’t with the radio.
Adjust the push rod length first, that's all I have ever needed to do. There is AutoTrim in iNav but I have never used it.
It is cheaper to get these from a supplier in the UK than it is to get them from Banggood don't know what has happened to there prices.
link?
very nice I have an idea why don't you review a micro plane like you did the train star if you type up on eBay micro rc planes a bunch will come up and why don't you review one?
I have a tbs unify pro 5g8 that is max 5v input. would it still work on this board? looks like its only 9v?
Can use any of the other 5V pins
Hi Andrew , i'm looking for a flight controller for my mini talon , would this be any good for it and what GPS would you use on it ?
Perfect FC for the Mini Talon, this is the best of them all. Recommended GPS units are linked here github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/Getting-started-with-iNav. I have used both of them and they are equally as good. The Beitian is smaller and has a more flexible cable.
I have the Maytek F722wing FC. The problem I’m having is in manual mode my control surfaces glitch and stick when I test them. I haven’t been able to fly my plane. I’m using analog servos and the FC is in my mini Skyhunter. Any idea when I should check?
Only in manual mode? Very strange. Setting the servo frequency above 50Hz might do that
Andrew Newton thank you very much. I will look into it.
To many questions friend, do you know how tump from 9 v to 12 on the board? For the video tx.
Very easy to find the answer to that Frank. I'll let you do some basic homework.
What a good video, he sent you my like and I subscribe. I would like to ask a newbie question. How can I use flaps and pan and tilt at the same time with the matek 405? is that when 4 servos in the wings and 2 in the tail there is only one left to move the camera. or is not it?
I haven't tried anything that complex but you could put flaps on a Y lead, leaving 2 PWM outputs for a gimbal.
@@AndrewNewton Thkyou!
Hello Andrew. Will this work on glow or gas planes? Thank you..
I think the vibrations might cause problems. Maybe ask on the Inav Fixed Wing Facebook group
It has enough outputs for a quad plane. Could be interesting. A nano talon quadplane could be fun.
Ha, mad scientist!
What pads do I connect my microphone to? I looked on Matek website and their wiring diagram doesn't show a microphone.
Connect to the VTx maybe?
@@AndrewNewton thank you mate I'm new to this.
Andrew am I missing something here. Most of my vTXs run on 12 volts. The vector and Storm flight controllers have always output 12 volts to the camera and vTX.
My 1.2ghz gear will only work with 12 volts. I know I can run a separate BEC but I am really surprised with the 9 volt rail ?
I'm no expert with these matters Neil. 9V is good for all my gear, but why not 12 indeed?
Oh just remembered, it's 9V or 12V via a solder bridge. That have thought of you
Andrew Newton Ah thanks Andrew. That's good because 9 volts would not give me the 1.21 jiga watts I use on 1.2ghz
Hi Andrew. Is this better to buy than the cheaper Arduplane on Banggood? Is inav better?
Ardupilot and INAV are free to download. I prefer INAV, much simpler.
So you take one of these boards and a GPS unit you can connect your ESC and receiver and have RTL and gyro's, is there anything else needed or is that it?
That's all, apart from a PC for setup
wow nice to know. Thanks for the video and the reply! A question, do you have any experience with the Frsky S6R receiver? I can't get ailerons to work on separate channels. If I use a Y cable they work fine.
Looking forward to more, one question will ezuhf ppm work with this board?
Beyond my knowledge I'm afraid. I have only used SBUS
Yes it is work with my ezuhf reciever.
Thanks for the heads up, I was able to get working with the ezuhf after changing a few settings.
Just about to start work on my board. I see you have connected G, 5V, TX4 and RX4 for the GPS, but not SCL or SDA - why is that?
That's the magnetometer or compass and for fixed wing it is not needed, in fact the iNav Wiki advises against using the compass.
I'll leave those unconnected, cheers.
On the video you just plugged in the board and it came right up. I’ve spent 4 days trying to get the same result and can’t get past the “Failed to open serial ports” error in iNav. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thx
Yes the frustrating first step. Have to install the correct driver on your PC or Mac. Links are on the first window of iNav configurator. If you have already done that then you should try a different USB cable.
New cable worked thx
@@bobalbright2084 Excellent, great to hear it worked Bob.
What do you think of the Matek F722 wing?
I have not tried it yet. But I'll add it to the list. Thanks for prompting me.
Hi Andrew please forgive my brain fade moment but you do still require a normal 2.4ghz receiver to run with this flight controller? And also how would you connect the two?
Thanks
Cheers
Robert
Yes you still require control looks like you need to do some reading of the iNav or ardupilot wiki depending on what software the flight controller is running.
You will need a receiver that supports SBUS and a GPS unit like this bit.ly/2go05vX. What radio are you using?
Hi again Andrew I am using a flysky radio given to me by my son. I am uncertain of the model number but I appears to be a Flysky F6i6s with touch screen.
Sir what about the Furious-f35 lighting flight controller
The Matek-F405-Wing is half the price, the newer Matek-F411-Wing is 1/3 the price. Find it hard to spend $100 on an FC.
Can you show how pins are installed onto board?
You have to solder them to the board, need to have a good small tip soldering iron.
I got this FCB and having trouble getting it to work. I have an S6R receiver. Do you think it might need a different receiver?
You need a receiver that does SBUS, like the X4R, X6R and X8R
Ok thanks. I have it setup for S-Port at the moment and its not working. Do you have any experience with the R9 receivers?
@@sams9716 S-Port and SBUS are different. R9 works well with the Matek board. ua-cam.com/video/q8nXAsiatkY/v-deo.html
Sorry, that was actually L9R, not R9.
Andrew, Mark here. Looking into using a Drone for bird 🐦 pest control. Can the Matek be programmed to fly within a GPS "box" to accomplish such? Secondly, how would you suggest to do this. Does matek have a design/build contract house? Thanks in advance!
INAV and Ardupilot can fly a waypoint mission. Something like this that will take off and land might work - ua-cam.com/users/AndrewNewtonAustraliasearch?query=H-Wing
Had one for a while now...designed for iNAV and aircraft....Disappointed they didn't include some holes for screws to mount it though.
The 3 pinouts for Camera and VTX do not have power on the centre pin, so watch which way you plug them in....Design error, right there.
Yes that will cause some heart ache, that's why I'll use the outer G and a 4 pin plug
Oh, that's a good idea...All my vtxs and Cameras have standard 3 pin plugs on them though....lol..Cant believe they goofed on this one. All they had to do was copy a standard F4 board.
I saw your safeguard solution, Im going to copy that idea for sure.
Hopefully arduplane will soon have a build for it. (Edit). Arduplane already has a build for it apparently. Just go to the Matek website www.mateksys.com/?portfolio=f405-wing#tab-id-7 and select the Arduplane tab for instructions.
Thanks for the update Stephen
Could you please buy send me a link to where you buy your 4 pin servo connectors. Best regards
www.ebay.com.au/itm/1450Pcs-Connector-Kit-2-54mm-PCB-Pin-Headers-Box-Packaging-For-Arduino-Dupont-GK-/372037314339?hash=item569f26e723
@@AndrewNewton Thank you for the link. Here is a link for gps that I have been using for 3 months with very good results. Its small and very, light excellent for gliders. Im using it with omibus F4 v1,v2,v3 boards. us.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-Dual-BN-220-GPS-GLONASS-Antenna-Module-TTL-Level-RC-Drone-Airplane-wp-Usa-1208588.html?rmmds=myorder
Excellent, thanks for that. I'll put it in my wish list.
Neat board. Should be much easier to setup a fixed wing on this one compared to the omnibus
Definitely
Would you recommend a beginner use this board to learn to fly a fixed wing
An stabilizer would be easier to setup for a beginner. Have a look at Eagletree Guardian or hobby eagle a3 super 3.
No, bad idea. Too much extra stuff you would have to learn
Horizons planes come with SAFE and stabilization installed. It would be far less expensive to learn that way.
No flight controller is the way to learn to fly.
True, but if he's determined to use electronic aids to get in the air, Horizon is cost effective.
Hey I wana make new thingermabob
Are this FC easy to setup ?
Not really, watch my iNav play list and see what you think.
Andrew Newton do you have the link to you inav playlist?
I have the f722 wing cant flash the board.
Does it show in iNav Configurator at all? Did you push the DFU button to flash?
Andrew Newton sorry what is the DFU button?
Andrew Newton is that a button on the board ? I found it, how is the process?
Hold in the button, then connect to your computer, and it will be in DFU mode. Then you can flash new firmware.
Andrew Newton thanks a lot, it was that and the drivers now I have all up and 🏃♀️ running, totally new with this board but I am pretty exited, I also have a vector FC but is way to expensive. Anyway keep up the good work my friend.
We sure are moving towards controlling small satellites
May I suggest you include the word "control board" in the title? I thought you were reviewing a wing... :)
Oops, didn't think of that. I'll edit the title