1 of the Scummiest Ways to Win a BJJ Match (IBJJF DQ Controversy)

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  • @zachayman8900
    @zachayman8900 18 днів тому +68

    Didn’t expect to see myself in a chewjitsu in 2024 but here we are (guy who flew from australia)

  • @Skywalker96214
    @Skywalker96214 18 днів тому +15

    Someone tried to strip my SLX in tournament but accidentally forced a reap. His coach screamed “he’s reaping” to the ref and I got a DQ. The guy genuinely looked confused why the match was stopped so I don’t blame him. His scummy coach, however, went home without honor that day.

  • @jasonscott2289
    @jasonscott2289 18 днів тому +33

    On point overall. Great response. I think another aspect that really elevates how offensive this is, is that it happened at worlds. His opponent flew to Vegas from Australia then gets sent home immediately by a cheater. It's gross. No excuse for doing this at purple belt worlds. He should be banned for a year at least imo. The impact of his behavior is too big and for his opponent, expensive.

    • @skulls.n.guns.2357
      @skulls.n.guns.2357 18 днів тому +6

      @@ronaldinho5860 Why are you crying so hard over a harmless comment? 🤣

    • @skulls.n.guns.2357
      @skulls.n.guns.2357 16 днів тому

      @@ronaldinho5860 I don't see you replying to my previous taunt. Maybe you did, but your reply got auto-deleted for containing certain words. If your comment can't be found while logged out, then it can't be read by anyone. This will be the last time I tell you about your comments possibly getting removed.

    • @JD2jr.
      @JD2jr. 13 днів тому

      if it was in thee rules, he's not exactly a cheater. He should not be reprimande, but the rule should be addressed. Idk how best to solve it, but I think something like making the dq only happen if you placed your foot there yourself and/or if you used it to apply a dangerous submission would solve... 90% of it at least.

    • @skulls.n.guns.2357
      @skulls.n.guns.2357 12 днів тому

      @@ronaldinho5860 Have you stopped crying over that harmless comment yet?

    • @skulls.n.guns.2357
      @skulls.n.guns.2357 11 днів тому

      @@ronaldinho5860 But have you stopped crying over the top comment? That's the real question.

  • @cthulhu-jitsu7404
    @cthulhu-jitsu7404 18 днів тому +15

    For me personally, I think the bigger issue is that this actually has been addressed by the IBJJF. The Rules Specifically state that forcing someone into an illegal position is a severe faul and grounds for disqualification. The problem isn't the IBJJF rules, it is the IBJJF refs. I have been in several competitions where the refs made some seriously bad calls, and I mean things that even people who don't compete in the IBJJF know are wrong. I've seen people be awarded 4 points for a sweep, I have seen people win but their opponent gets theit hand raised,. I've seen people get awarded advantages for actions that are the literal example that the IBJJF gives in their own rulebok of when you would not give an advantage.
    The problem here is that none of these refs are going to have any downsides to making any of these bad calls. If there are no concequences, then the Refs can basically do whatever they want. This is the part that needs to change to solve this problem.

    • @glxblt-sd1ze
      @glxblt-sd1ze 15 днів тому

      Have you ever tried to ref even a friendly match in your gym ?
      The amount of focus that is needed to enforce sometime dumb rules is massive. It's obvious that you could never be perfect

    • @cthulhu-jitsu7404
      @cthulhu-jitsu7404 15 днів тому +1

      @glxblt-sd1ze I've reffed for tournaments, 8 hours long. And it doesn't have to be perfect. The example from Lachlan Giles is perfect here. They called out the mistake and even went to the videos to show the ref indeed made the wrong call. Problem is they didn't stop the progression of the bracket to wait and by the time it was cleared up, they had already sent the other guy to the next match, so it wouldn't be corrected anymore. THAT sort of thing should just not happen.

  • @rstonelee1311
    @rstonelee1311 14 днів тому +2

    Love that you told the story of how you "cheated" and were shamed. Shows your confidence in yourself and makes you a great example for younger competitors to aspire to.

  • @boss133749
    @boss133749 18 днів тому +26

    I’ll add my two cents to this. B Team literally grew to notoriety by losing. But they train hard, they have a jovial culture, and they grow.
    Winning isn’t everything. The journey is what is remembered.

  • @JamesIanGilliam
    @JamesIanGilliam 18 днів тому +10

    Love the message, and love the 2 camera angles.
    On the second angle, I can see you want to get the bookshelf in there. Consider a wider lens, or getting the camera more in front of 'you' so that you are still the focus but the books are in the background. Currently the viewer is drawn towards the meeting of the 2 walls (or you and the shelf) which is the dead space behind you.

    • @BarChordA
      @BarChordA 18 днів тому +1

      I was thinking this same thing - he has no leading space in that shot, so he’s talking to the edge of the frame. I do like that he’s been using multi-angle cuts though - adds more depth.

  • @JungWeezyBabay
    @JungWeezyBabay 18 днів тому +8

    I think that reaping dq rule enforces a bad habit. If you’re pulling the foot across for the reap dq, you might win in the competition, but doing that outside of the competition just puts you in a worse position

    • @JD2jr.
      @JD2jr. 13 днів тому

      Someone else mentioned that forcing your opponent is a DQ-able offense, so the problem was just the ref and the org's refusal to fix the problem once it was pointed out.

  • @schenksteven1
    @schenksteven1 15 днів тому +3

    In wrestling we award a penalty point for an illegal hold, that’s a simple solution to the problem. It matters, but it only rarely decides the outcome of the match.
    If you continue to grab illegal holds in a match you can be dq’d eventually.
    Wrestling also differentiates between grabbing an illegal hold (penalty point) and using the hold in an attempt to injure. (Automatic DQ)

    • @DBowTX
      @DBowTX 15 днів тому

      Difference being, you aren't using submissions in wrestling.

    • @schenksteven1
      @schenksteven1 13 днів тому

      @ I’m confused

  • @richardgallagher4880
    @richardgallagher4880 18 днів тому +10

    "Sweep the leg.
    No mercy"
    Sensai kreese.

  • @AoE2_Ice
    @AoE2_Ice 12 днів тому

    Im a lil white belt. I have like 3 competitions in my careeer so far. Ill throw my two cents in to say that I am so grateful for Chewy and his videos. I started watching him the week I started at my first gym, (and I'm still at the same gym), and he taught me so much about the culture. I didnt realize the non-verbal and verbal indicators I learned from Chewy until I started practicing Jiu Jitsu myself. He's an amazing man, and I'm so grateful for the culture he wants to flourish in our community. Keep up the great work Professor!

  • @meatheadcanada
    @meatheadcanada 17 днів тому +1

    Well said Mr Chewie! Happy New Year

  • @SpearheadTrainingSolutions
    @SpearheadTrainingSolutions 18 днів тому +3

    Traditional Brazilians are so scared of the reap and it’s just rediculous

  • @stevenkandro7453
    @stevenkandro7453 4 дні тому

    To that last point, some guys like Lachlan Giles never technically won a gold medal, but won in such spectacular ways with beautiful perfect jiu jitsu that they are extremely well respected and make big bucks. He’s also just a classy guy

  • @spearce10
    @spearce10 18 днів тому +5

    Spot on vid as always bud

  • @Martial-Mat
    @Martial-Mat 18 днів тому +3

    It's not the rules; it's the application of the rules. Gaming the system like that should carry a year long ban, then people would not attempt it except for the highest stakes.
    I've never never intentionally fought dishonourably in my life. I'd sooner lose and hold my head up.

    • @jcpbd1776
      @jcpbd1776 18 днів тому +1

      Every person competing is “gaming the system” because they’re gonna always take the most efficient path to victory even if it isn’t the most righteous and most exciting. The same way an NFL team will kneel the ball in the 4th QTR, or an NBA player will shoot into a defender to draw the foul. Trying to leave it to a refs discretion with intentionality will always slip ups so if we want a more concrete ruling then change the rules

  • @jefftmusic
    @jefftmusic 18 днів тому +3

    been training 10 years... still dont understand what it is about a reap that is so dangerous.

    • @kivekkulat5114
      @kivekkulat5114 18 днів тому +2

      So from my side I’d say I don’t view heel hooks as overly dangerous but do support idea of lower belts not being able to do them to mitigate risk of inexperienced people hurting themselves. Once you ban heel hooks, to me the same logic applies to banning reaping the knee. I’ve seen several guys tweak their knees fighting incorrectly when their knee is in compromised position being reaped where opponent is not technically heel hooking them. To me I think banning reaping the knees is an imperfect but necessary part of rules if you ban heel hooks.

  • @Warrior_Culture
    @Warrior_Culture 11 днів тому

    "I'm not a warrior because I always win. I'm a warrior because I always fight."
    I'll take losing 99 times and winning only once because I'm undeniably better than my opponent. Rather than win 100 times in ways that make everyone, including myself, question whether it was really a win.

  • @ianmcneil570
    @ianmcneil570 11 днів тому

    As much as "winning is winning", winning with your integrity intact is still important

  • @larslornothfloki5998
    @larslornothfloki5998 18 днів тому +5

    Can you do a technique video breaking down the fake reap vs an actual reap in that position. I'm not fully understanding how reaping would be a DQ vs a fake reap. I train jits at a gym that primarily focuses on grappling for MMA. I spit out my tea when you mentioned MMA being a different world cause that's spot on. Appreciate the humor you add even in this video cause it keeps a nice balance.

    • @mikeg8543
      @mikeg8543 18 днів тому +1

      It's not that complicated. Look up what a reap is on UA-cam now imagine someone shoves your leg across their center line to that position (usually grabs the foot off the hip and pushes it across the thigh)

  • @josephaubrey5752
    @josephaubrey5752 18 днів тому +13

    Over the last 5 years, I’ve trained several gyms, and I can tell you that several black belts have taught forcing the reap in a competition. This is not a new idea.

    • @Kramsay91
      @Kramsay91 18 днів тому +11

      Thats embarrassing

  • @addicted2anxiety559
    @addicted2anxiety559 14 днів тому

    The camera angle change is a nice touch

  • @maxanderson3733
    @maxanderson3733 18 днів тому +1

    Bro, I didn’t even know this was a rule.

  • @socialist-strong
    @socialist-strong 17 днів тому +1

    A great nuanced take. Good job!

  • @martialartsvocationalschoo3319
    @martialartsvocationalschoo3319 17 днів тому +1

    At the bottom of all of this is how our cultures see "winners" and "losers". Personally, I'd always chose a honerable, close, hard fought loss over an easy win. But most others won't. And never post anything when angry.

  • @USALibertarian
    @USALibertarian 18 днів тому +2

    If you reap yourself YOU CAUSED the reap. Therefore YOU broke the rule. This simply just a referee education solution unless the rules are written stupidly.

  • @ByronC900
    @ByronC900 14 днів тому

    If leg locks are allowed, reaping needs to be allowed. It's always been a goofy rule.

  • @jbdavis2933
    @jbdavis2933 15 днів тому

    Pan kids a cpl of years ago, kids were getting wins just for submission attempts even when they don’t have it. It’s ridiculous

  • @MikeMoreLike6Billion
    @MikeMoreLike6Billion 17 днів тому +1

    Bragging that you coached against your own student, and to his defeat. Disgusting. You can be upset with your student and stop helping him if you want, but actively working against him (and for his opponent) is such a ridiculous, absurd betrayal. I’ve never even heard anything like that before. What if his opponent had gained an advantage over him thanks to your coaching and then ripped a vicious submission, causing a lifelong or chronic injury to your student?
    Straight up, unsubscribing. This dude has lost the plot if he thinks that was a good story and made him look good.

    • @MikeMoreLike6Billion
      @MikeMoreLike6Billion 17 днів тому +1

      I normally read comments before I watch a video to get the vibe of the content, if it’s worth my time or not, and I just can’t believe that there is no active discussion about that little throwaway story of you flipping to coach the other side during a match. You have a duty as a mat-side coach to put your student in the best position possible. This isn’t soccer, people get seriously hurt in this game we play. I would leave your gym in a heartbeat if I ever even heard that you did this to one of my fellow students - and I pity anyone that goes in with you as their match coach without knowing and understanding you might flip and sabotage them. Unbelievable.

    • @StanleyPinchak
      @StanleyPinchak 15 днів тому

      You sound soft

    • @MikeMoreLike6Billion
      @MikeMoreLike6Billion 15 днів тому

      @ preferring my coach not help my opponent defeat me in a combat sport where I pay to play makes me soft? Competition is live, its 100% all go. Shit snaps and people send submissions with everything they’ve got. Go to a local BJJ comp and watch dudes get dragged off the mat even in white belt rounds. It’s real shit and being betrayed by your corner could easily cost you a limb when your opponent sweeps you and rips an americana thanks to your awesome coach.

  • @tekal85
    @tekal85 17 днів тому

    But regarding the reaping rule: if I am the guy actively pushing the foot beyond the midline l, I get the dq?

  • @ItsPandatory
    @ItsPandatory 18 днів тому

    I dont think we need a rule change here, forcing your opponent into a reap is already illegal. There were definitely some matches where it wasn't enforced properly but thats a different problem.
    If this happens in one of your matches ask the ref to have it reviewed and if that doesn't help go over to the head table and have them review it. They can change the result and put you back in the bracket as long as the next match hasn't run yet. I heard Lachlan's student's DQ was somehow held up under review, i'm going to ask about that at the next ref meeting I'm at.
    rule 6.2.3 D) When an athlete intentionally attempts to get his or her opponent disqualified by reacting in a way that places his or her opponent in an illegal position.

  • @shrimuyopa8117
    @shrimuyopa8117 9 днів тому

    Love the HOA analogy with the IBJJF lol.

  • @nikopipi-f3s
    @nikopipi-f3s 15 днів тому

    What beard balm do you use?

  • @BJJJUDO
    @BJJJUDO 18 днів тому +1

    Love the message

  • @CoachKevanKillsit
    @CoachKevanKillsit 18 днів тому +3

    I accidentally did this in my first ever comp match 😂 I was just trying to strip the foot off next thing I know I’m getting yelled at by the ref lol

    • @greatone6196
      @greatone6196 18 днів тому

      I have had someone in training force me to reap on complete accident doing the same thing lol

  • @RianG777
    @RianG777 17 днів тому

    Much respect Sensei, Osu!

  • @MannyC-w8r
    @MannyC-w8r 18 днів тому +6

    Personally, I don't like that style of play. But I grew up in the 90s, so let me give some old man wisdom.
    "Hate the game, not the player"

    • @rstlr01
      @rstlr01 16 днів тому +1

      Absolutely! Sucks for the other guy, but the outrage should be for the rule that allows such gamesmanship. Kind of like the grounded fighter rule the UFC has, many fighters have abused this with great effect to get the win.

  • @kwazadi138
    @kwazadi138 15 днів тому

    Change the rule! Instead of DQ, get the ref to stop the fight and untangle the legs, give a penalty and carry on.

  • @BigBWolf90
    @BigBWolf90 18 днів тому

    Didn't know about the fake reap, i thought this would be about the fake pain from a "slam" when it's clearly something legal or an accident

  • @adamatomant3381
    @adamatomant3381 14 днів тому

    BJJ is not immune to the Internet being the Internet.

  • @richardgallagher4880
    @richardgallagher4880 18 днів тому +9

    "Its not about whether you win or lose its about the friends you make along the way"
    Chewjitsu
    From the winners podium😂😂

    • @user-mi3fy5yh1q
      @user-mi3fy5yh1q 18 днів тому +2

      Yeah, that's like all those Black Belts that like to say, "It's not the belt that matters".... I call BS. I know they all slept in that belt after they got it, and they like to tell people they're BBs.

    • @NN-qj4sk
      @NN-qj4sk 18 днів тому

      @@user-mi3fy5yh1q How do you know that?

    • @veteransowhat5669
      @veteransowhat5669 18 днів тому

      Well they matter and they do not, as a business the belt color matters for live application the belt does not, what is the context of the question or statement?

  • @blackiechanx7
    @blackiechanx7 18 днів тому

    The reap charge is crazy 😂

  • @jims512
    @jims512 15 днів тому

    Do the refs not have the discretion to not call the pseudo reap?

  • @thedude4232
    @thedude4232 15 днів тому +1

    Literal false reap accusations

  • @Heezydoesit167
    @Heezydoesit167 15 днів тому

    The jiu-jitsu community is the absolute worst. It’s just a bunch of people looking for the next person to pile onto.

  • @frostytaco101
    @frostytaco101 18 днів тому

    podcast and video 😍

  • @kungfupanda431
    @kungfupanda431 18 днів тому +6

    Maybe I'm old fashioned but I think you should only comment things online that you would say to that person's face in real life.

  • @darylmckay
    @darylmckay 18 днів тому

    Wise words, Chewie 😊

  • @noahpendergrass9744
    @noahpendergrass9744 16 днів тому

    It should be done. It uncovers how stupid the rules are

  • @chriswalkin4952
    @chriswalkin4952 18 днів тому

    Right on, very well said.

  • @oramac7237
    @oramac7237 18 днів тому

    Wheaton's Law should be posted everywhere. It's so simple.

  • @jonahanderson2663
    @jonahanderson2663 18 днів тому

    Can someone explain this rule issue to me? So your opponent is going for a straight ankle and you do something to turn it into a heel hook and they get DQ’d?

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 18 днів тому

      No you put their leg right across yours instead of on your hip.
      This is band.

    • @NN-qj4sk
      @NN-qj4sk 18 днів тому

      In single leg X, if you pass your outer leg over their centreline, it's considered reaping and is banned.

  • @KazzArie
    @KazzArie 17 днів тому

    Switching camera angles during your monologue reminds me of coach red pill. Ima call you Coach Chew Pill.

  • @michaelcarter2767
    @michaelcarter2767 18 днів тому

    JJWL gonna take IBJJF off the map, comps are so much better, times don't change, free rash gaurd with sign up. You also get a free video of your match uploaded onto a public profile. It's dope

  • @PP_Derrick
    @PP_Derrick 18 днів тому

    What do you mean by, change the rule? Change to what?

  • @Bbookinn
    @Bbookinn 17 днів тому

    Just a typical case of ppl overreacting on the internet. The guy for sure fucked up and should not have done that and as you said, deserves to be called out for it. Ppl will take shit like this and literally send death threats to ppl online though.. like HUH? when was it ever that serious? 99.9% of these ppl would never say anything like that to these ppl's face but the internet makes ppl way to comfortable. As the saying goes, these types need to TOUCH GRASS

  • @thomasskrappy3250
    @thomasskrappy3250 18 днів тому

    It's a fight that they turned into a sport. It might get messy

  • @DefconUnicorn
    @DefconUnicorn 15 днів тому

    He should name him self the "Fake Reaper" and just own it. I am sure hes grown, its also better to fuck up young. :D

  • @LOLSNAPED
    @LOLSNAPED 14 днів тому

    Bro, just allow people to reap at this point

  • @darrellmcclain5697
    @darrellmcclain5697 13 днів тому

    Good stuff champ

  • @dyoder16
    @dyoder16 18 днів тому +1

    So stupid. Dealing is not inherently dangerous. There is a knee reaped in a wrestling match every week. Where are all these injuries from it.

  • @WakeUpUniverse66
    @WakeUpUniverse66 18 днів тому +2

    False Reap Accusations for real hahaha

  • @brian8861
    @brian8861 16 днів тому

    dont hate the player hate the game

    • @H33t3Speaks
      @H33t3Speaks 16 днів тому

      Not the attitude you want to go into a SPORTING event with. Self-defense, sure. Sport, nah u a dickhead fr

  • @MJSilverfang
    @MJSilverfang 16 днів тому

    I gave the video a thumbs up because of 4:50, lol

  • @alavanhe
    @alavanhe 14 днів тому

    "if you ain't cheating you ain't trying"
    Dirty ya but the rules created this loop hole change the rules , than this problem goes away to be replaced by the next loop hole .
    Ya it's shity but play the rule set like any competition.
    Signed a wristlocker

  • @ericmckinney8704
    @ericmckinney8704 18 днів тому +4

    why dont they just allow knee reaps. Problem solved.

    • @JungWeezyBabay
      @JungWeezyBabay 18 днів тому +1

      Supposedly it’s “dangerous.” I think the IBJJF is still just scared of foot stuff. Leg locks were really looked down upon until fairly recent in BJJ history.

    • @holden5478
      @holden5478 18 днів тому

      IBJJF says no

    • @ItsPandatory
      @ItsPandatory 18 днів тому

      Its legal at brown and black (adult no-gi) so this is only a purple or lower meme

  • @808BJJ_Black_Belt
    @808BJJ_Black_Belt 18 днів тому +1

    Cheating reapers 💩👎🏻

  • @asianfrenzy666
    @asianfrenzy666 17 днів тому +1

    false reap accusations, eh

  • @uipize
    @uipize 17 днів тому

    The rules are fine. Even the refs are fine. The system is just wrong. If you pay hundreds of dollars to enter there competition just to loose after 1 match like that, your money is wrong invested. There should be a video system for each mat (as far as i heard it was one system for multiple mats) und atleast 3 refs watching (one mat ref, one side ref and one video ref). Dont put all the pressure on one ref to see it all in real time after countless hours on the mat. Invest your money ibjjf!
    Also.. in a martial arts context.. all shame to the guys doing it. There is no excuse.

  • @veteransowhat5669
    @veteransowhat5669 18 днів тому

    The language is Portuguese.

  • @Heezydoesit167
    @Heezydoesit167 15 днів тому

    Ibjjf is still a shit show, just a semi well-run one.

  • @kumai77
    @kumai77 18 днів тому +1

    Comments on internet should never, ever ever matter. As matter of facts ignore even mine right now if it helps understand how not important that should be.

  • @rg2_029
    @rg2_029 18 днів тому

    Reap charge 😂😂😂

  • @bradlopez3681
    @bradlopez3681 18 днів тому +2

    This rule is why I don't even bother with foot locks. Comps are too expansive to lose to some cheesy shit.

    • @holden5478
      @holden5478 18 днів тому

      Footlocks are universally allowed everywhere now.

    • @bradlopez3681
      @bradlopez3681 18 днів тому +3

      @@holden5478 see the problem isnt the foot loc the problem is im afraid to go for one have someone move my leg into the reaping position and get dqed and I wasted my entree fee.

    • @holden5478
      @holden5478 16 днів тому

      ​@@bradlopez3681 oh gotcha! Geeze, you can tell I don't compete. lol

    • @bradlopez3681
      @bradlopez3681 16 днів тому

      @ 🤣 ok

  • @cahallo5964
    @cahallo5964 13 днів тому

    In my luta livre opinion, just allow reaping. lol

  • @johnnycaralta
    @johnnycaralta 17 днів тому +1

    It's wild that people still care about IBJJF. Easily the worst ruleset in the sport.

  • @JD2jr.
    @JD2jr. 13 днів тому

    I really love the "coaching the opponent of your student who was stalling" story. I definitely would never hold it against someone if they used a technicality to win something with a prize purse, or something where winning was more important than "competing". But taking advantage of dumb rules is lame. The rule needs to be a little too restrictive to avoid grey areas where someone gets hurt, but that's where they grey areas like this event occur. Just try not to be the "bad guy".

  • @spearce10
    @spearce10 18 днів тому +10

    Football mate 😉

    • @WakeUpUniverse66
      @WakeUpUniverse66 18 днів тому +8

      Nah dude its called Soccer. We don't live in Narnia

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 18 днів тому +3

      45 minutes? Jaffa cakes? Jumpers for goalposts? 😆

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 18 днів тому +2

      ​@WakeUpUniverse66
      Why you carry and throw the ball in american FOOTball bruuuuhh?😂

    • @spearce10
      @spearce10 18 днів тому +1

      @@richardgallagher4880 oooh isn't it

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 18 днів тому

      @@spearce10
      😂😂

  • @themaster-jp6sp
    @themaster-jp6sp 18 днів тому

    gaming the system. its legit. no beef with the guy. dont hate the player, hate the game

  • @user-mi3fy5yh1q
    @user-mi3fy5yh1q 18 днів тому

    You are going to have to repeat all that in Spanish for them to get the message.

  • @josediaz-ortega6405
    @josediaz-ortega6405 14 днів тому

    If you go for leg locks u should automatically be disqualified.

  • @MrGabrucho
    @MrGabrucho 17 днів тому

    Shaking a baby is a serious crime bro

  • @sanjuansteve
    @sanjuansteve 11 днів тому

    Dude, only Americans call is soccer. You embarrass yourselves in the eyes of the world every time you say the word soccer and every time you say football, meaning American ''football''.