Niki & Donna Recall The Early Days of Working w/ Madonna!!

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  • @JB-pl1iu
    @JB-pl1iu 10 місяців тому +58

    God they were so good. They both complimented Madonna perfectly during her earlier tours.

  • @dama5053
    @dama5053 10 місяців тому +32

    These two icons MUST make an appearance on the current tour. THEY MUST!!!!!!!

    • @TheMrCarterShow
      @TheMrCarterShow 10 місяців тому +4

      I went to the show last month in Brooklyn and these two were the only thing that was missing!!

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому +4

      Yes and they are all in NYC this week- going to my 3rd Celebration this Monday

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому +3

      I was at the shows too

    • @Lillipod1
      @Lillipod1 10 місяців тому

      She doesn’t want to share her stage. Only one near her age she lets on his Jean Paul Gaultier.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      yes@@Lillipod1

  • @Cloudetower
    @Cloudetower 10 місяців тому +32

    They deserve their own documentary!💖💥

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      OMG yes

    • @scottgarbo1288
      @scottgarbo1288 10 місяців тому

      Yes! I'm sure they have incredible stories to tell of their entire careers, not just working w/ Madonna

    • @GorgeouslyStupidThing
      @GorgeouslyStupidThing 10 місяців тому +1

      @@scottgarbo1288 I'm sure they don't.

    • @scottgarbo1288
      @scottgarbo1288 10 місяців тому

      @@GorgeouslyStupidThing LOL. You sound like a miserable person.

  • @albertramirez9770
    @albertramirez9770 10 місяців тому +14

    Donna speaks so eloquently of her initial experience auditioning for THE Queen of Pop and seems very humbled when speaking about how it all began 🎙️👍🏼 - she’s a lovely person both inside and out❣️👑🎵🙏🏼

  • @scottgarbo1288
    @scottgarbo1288 10 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this interview. I'm a lifelong fan of Madonna's and always wondered how Donna and Niki came to work with her. They are both super-talented in their own right. Niki and I used to go to the same church here in LA. She sang a few times and, let me tell you, I'm surprised the roof didn't blow off. She was just amazing. Powerful and soulful, which we rarely got to see when she toured w/ Madonna. She was also very sweet and kind. And Donna is such a great dancer and singer who makes it all look so easy.

  • @beachstreet101
    @beachstreet101 10 місяців тому +4

    Loved these Niki and Donna conversations. Thank you for doing this. :). I'm glad you asked Niki about clarifying a bit deeper that she hadn't heard of this Madonna in 1987 that she was asked to audition for. And nor was she aware she was this major superstar. I just find that hard to believe especially if she was in the Music business. Bill Medley her former boss knew Madonna.
    Even if you didn't listen to that kind of music, there's almost no way you could not have heard or seen her. She was everywhere on every magazine all over the news. You go to record stores in those days her image was everywhere. MTV was massive for the music industry her videos were being played 24/7.
    I know who Britney Spears is even during the height of her pop stardom. And I've never listened to a Britney Spears song and never been a fan, I could careless. It's not my kind of music, but I'm aware of how popular she is. Yet, Madonna was a hundred times that by the time 1987 rolled around so it's hard to believe she had no knowledge of her. I primarily listen to rock music, but I know Madonna.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      You are welcome and tons more vids w Niki and Donna posted

    • @CircusInto
      @CircusInto 10 місяців тому +1

      True… it’s not that plausible. Madonna was a phenomenon

    • @doesu-hm3sp
      @doesu-hm3sp 9 місяців тому

      May we ask - what is YOUR opinion, sir. True journalism is opining honestly.

  • @bweb6
    @bweb6 10 місяців тому +14

    Omg! I remember watching them perform alongside Madonna on The Drowned World Tour. They were both so impressive and complimented Madonna so well. The tour ending when Niki introduced Madonna and they all performed the big Holiday/Music finale was so iconic to me!

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому +2

      Same
      Tons more videos w Niki and Donna posted
      Feel free to check ‘em out

  • @nikkix2896
    @nikkix2896 10 місяців тому +6

    They both aged so gracefully and tastefully. That’s so rare today

  • @watsonaqua4560
    @watsonaqua4560 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing women!!!! Awesome that they were featured so well on videos and in concert.

  • @Guy-lo3ld
    @Guy-lo3ld 10 місяців тому +3

    Omg, this is a really interesting discussion about when they initially started rehearsing and touring with madonna. There is so much history there.

  • @tmalone2530
    @tmalone2530 8 місяців тому +1

    Donna & Nikki were forces to be reckoned with. Madonna’s first 3 world tours wouldn’t be anything without them.

  • @tinasilvercat6923
    @tinasilvercat6923 10 місяців тому +1

    Holy sh&t! I love these ladies!!!!! Such a huge part of my teenage years!!!

  • @danielhennessey4282
    @danielhennessey4282 10 місяців тому +10

    Okay Niki, you never heard Like a Virgin or Material Girl and didn’t even know who Madonna was despite her already being the biggest female star in the world by then 😂

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      LOL

    • @veloztony
      @veloztony 10 місяців тому +4

      This is like the 3rd interview I see where she says this. I just don't believe it.

    • @Lillipod1
      @Lillipod1 10 місяців тому

      She wasn’t into pop. Different genre she was in. Madonna couldn’t sell 10000 tickets in Leeds. I lost interest after Huday. Just a lowlife with that SEX book. Talks about young boys in it. They are well away from her.

    • @gaylefranklin
      @gaylefranklin 10 місяців тому

      @@Lillipod1 you’re such a fan it’s hilarious😂😂😂😂

    • @sahasrarachakra1
      @sahasrarachakra1 9 місяців тому +3

      Niki, I like, but even my grandma in Nicaragua knew who Madonna was.

  • @benbelzer8303
    @benbelzer8303 11 місяців тому +6

    I'll always be a fan of Open Your Heart (with the boy and the men at the peep show video) and Candy Shop "Sticky and Sweet" tour in Buenos Aries/Argentina in 2008.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  11 місяців тому +4

      right? I have seen The Celebration Tour twice in Brooklyn already - am going next week in NYC and then I am doing a bunch of dates in LA in March. Am I obsessed?

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  11 місяців тому +1

      and Open Your Heart on this tour is so so good

    • @benbelzer8303
      @benbelzer8303 11 місяців тому +1

      @@behindthevelvetrope Open Your Heart is a CLASSIC! And I'll always love the interview Ruby Wax did with Madonna years ago, so good! 😁

    • @benbelzer8303
      @benbelzer8303 11 місяців тому

      @@behindthevelvetrope Yes, you're obsessed 😀

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  11 місяців тому +1

      oh yes it was great - I am glad to have had Niki and Donna on - I have not seen any good interviews with them recently and was like why are they being overlooked during this EPIC tour so here we are - I have some vids coming later for you with them also - mixed in all day @@benbelzer8303

  • @greeneyedwarlock882
    @greeneyedwarlock882 10 місяців тому +5

    They were both fab-you-luss on tour with Madonna and in the classic masterpiece that is the Vogue video! However, years ago, Niki spoke at my church here in metro Detroit and she sho' was a mess! Flustered, ill-prepared and couldn't for the life of me figure out why she was there! And did I actually hear her just say "I didn't know who this Madonna person WAS"⁉⁉⁉🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @jameslee3980
    @jameslee3980 10 місяців тому +2

    Love them !

  • @rdbarne
    @rdbarne 10 місяців тому +3

    I would love to know who Nikki and Donna replaced on the Who’s That Girl Tour. The third lady from that tour didn’t make it to Blond Ambition.

  • @DonLaPierre-ho8ng
    @DonLaPierre-ho8ng 9 місяців тому +1

    Donna is the background Star ⭐️ End Of

  • @SlyRedfoxx85
    @SlyRedfoxx85 10 місяців тому +1

    Good get!! I remember them!!

  • @Labsluv24
    @Labsluv24 10 місяців тому

    QUEENS!!!

  • @thevalkyrie8
    @thevalkyrie8 10 місяців тому

    I don’t understand… the apple and Spotify version are audio only yet you have video? Why can’t I watch whole video? Where do I watch it?

  • @brockbaby
    @brockbaby 9 місяців тому

    What tour are they taking about? Who’s that girl? Cause they were doing backup on TrueBlue a year before that tour.

  • @bodylanguage70
    @bodylanguage70 10 місяців тому +18

    how can even somebody say "I had no idea who that Madonna person was"? In 1985 she was on anyone's lips for months, she was on heavy rotation on every radio, not to mention MTV. I don't believe her.

    • @thevalkyrie8
      @thevalkyrie8 10 місяців тому +2

      I know… that tall dancer from blonde ambition also says the same in interviews… that he’d never listened to her… but she was a global star even by then… sigh

    • @shutupandfkoff
      @shutupandfkoff 10 місяців тому +6

      Such a liar. That's why I don't dig into her. She doesn't even have respect.

    • @FranklySpeaking.
      @FranklySpeaking. 10 місяців тому +3

      @@shutupandfkoff dont forget niki's comments regarding the re-invention tour. "im not interested in the regurgitation tour'.
      bish was salty AF cuz she wasnt asked to join Donna on that (& following) tours
      since that comment i have ZERO respect for her. shes part of M's PAST..
      now shes using M's resurgence to get HERSELF more press (while acting aloof & 'annoyed' about it).
      again... girl please.

    • @thevalkyrie8
      @thevalkyrie8 10 місяців тому +2

      @@FranklySpeaking. remember in Christopher Ciccones book too when he said that Madonna was going to sack Niki quite early on… on Who’s That Girl tour… imagine seeing nikis face when she read that line ouch

    • @shutupandfkoff
      @shutupandfkoff 10 місяців тому +2

      @FranklySpeaking. yup. All madonna fans need to drop her. Why do they even keep bringing her?? She has no respect. Just let her go and do her 'jazzer' thing. If she was that much great, let her have her own audience not associated with madonnas fans. And stop talking about Madonna to get more clicks.

  • @glamnesianouveaux2039
    @glamnesianouveaux2039 10 місяців тому +1

    Part 2?

  • @doesu-hm3sp
    @doesu-hm3sp 9 місяців тому +1

    Apologies. Late to convo. Truly - is there one decent reason Madonna didn’t crouch-down, while performing at MSG/NYC, a few months ago - have 2 mikes ready…and have N & D reunite with a brief but oh-so- beloved few bars of “Rain” ??????? OPPORTUNITY MISSED. Chose “Kelly” to hop on stage instead. 99.99% would have adored the former. W H Y 😫

  • @zapasowe1
    @zapasowe1 10 місяців тому

    who cut those files?

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      Hello
      Full chat here
      Click below
      podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-velvet-rope/id1496557812?i=1000642619173

  • @gregwoolliscroft6255
    @gregwoolliscroft6255 10 місяців тому +1

    ''THIS IS DAVID AND I'M SO CAMP'....

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      THANK YOUUUUUUUU!! More vids w Niki and Donna posted. Check ‘em out

  • @robert_nyc
    @robert_nyc 16 днів тому

    Madonna not inviting them on her Celebration tour was truly a big mistake. What a way to celebrate the legacy of what they created.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  16 днів тому +1

      And I was close to them in the audience one night so she easily could have

  • @ivanhobotov6366
    @ivanhobotov6366 10 місяців тому

    Such a great podcast. Thank you for that. I wish Niki wasn't so passive aggressive though. She has so much negative energy towards Madonna.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      You are soooooooo welcome!!! More videos were posted also

    • @roxanemontegna9867
      @roxanemontegna9867 10 місяців тому

      She may have good reason. I'm the age of Madonna and though I love her she has a record for taking credit for others' work and using people than throwing them away. Still love her❤

    • @doesu-hm3sp
      @doesu-hm3sp 9 місяців тому

      LOVE LOVE ALL OF THEM! That being said - I CAN’T…anymore. Let’s be real - Madonna is a NPD’r. (Primary victim: Brother Christopher Ciccone.) As talented and amazing she is for us to adore and be entertained by …..Nikki and Donna got-a-taste of Madonna’s Narcissism. If either of them were ‘overdue’ M made sure she manipulated. (Shed have Nikki’s Mike shut off; purposely have her costumes made too small etc…) When Donna did those last few tours alone without Nikki - the replacement was fawned over by Madonna, on stage - just to keep Donna down.

  • @keydestiny
    @keydestiny 8 місяців тому

    Nikki not knowing Madonna back then is surprising, even if one is into a different genre of music. Madonna is already in the league of Whitney Houston and Cyndi Lauper even before the Blond Ambition tour.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  8 місяців тому

      Love Cyndi

    • @keydestiny
      @keydestiny 8 місяців тому

      @@behindthevelvetrope Please interview Joan Collins. She’s dynamic and witty.

  • @kumada84
    @kumada84 10 місяців тому

    7:43 I Can't Help Myself in Like a Virgin 👀 Little me acting out the show in my bedroom could never remember which hand it was either... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jartober
    @jartober 10 місяців тому +1

    Everyone thought Baby Love by Regina was Madonna

  • @atrocchia
    @atrocchia 10 місяців тому +4

    When I first heard Holiday, I thought Madonna was a Black woman.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому +1

      Same with Everybody
      Yup
      #agreed

    • @Zahra-lc3mj
      @Zahra-lc3mj 10 місяців тому

      She has said Black radio was first to play her music on the radio because black radio programmers thought she was black because Everybody was very R&B.

  • @KoalaBeer.
    @KoalaBeer. 10 місяців тому

    The best 😂

  • @thedarthflagger
    @thedarthflagger 10 місяців тому

    They BOTH need to be on RuPaul's drag race 😊

  • @crypticvinforever6350
    @crypticvinforever6350 10 місяців тому +1

    37 years strong...i. w.a.s. t.h.e.r.e.

  • @jartober
    @jartober 10 місяців тому +2

    First of all, these two not working with Madonna shows what M has lost. Her tours without these two have never been the same and never will. Look at what M has now... no live band and countless dancers on the Celebration tour. What a mess.
    I don't buy that NH didn't know who Madonna was at the time.. but i do think she wasn't very familiar with her . Her background was Anita and many soul singers. She was a jazzer but COME ON.... She didnt know Like A Virgin.. that's "sus" lmao.
    Madonna losing D and N is still a huge loss to her career. And she did lose them. Yes they've moved on and it was a job... and the only reason they ride on her coattails is because that's what they are most famous for.
    That will be their biggest legacy: they worked and sang with M. They talk about her because everyone interviewing is going to ask. I could see M and NH ending a friendship but if you lose Donna, you need to look inside yourself lol. Because Donna is a very kind and gentle soul.
    I wonder what both of them really think about M now.. considering she's so insufferable.

  • @ATLcentury334
    @ATLcentury334 10 місяців тому

    The home of the “you guys” drinking game.

  • @twebster9498
    @twebster9498 10 місяців тому

    Loved them with Madonna but aren't they tired of talking about her?

  • @skyfitsheaven
    @skyfitsheaven 10 місяців тому

    There’s no way in hell Niki didn’t know Madonna at the time

  • @doesu-hm3sp
    @doesu-hm3sp 9 місяців тому

    Sorry - can’t… I’ll leave …. But before I go ( or get deleted/blocked by OP:
    LOVE LOVE ALL OF THEM! That being said - I CAN’T…anymore. Let’s be real - Madonna is a NPD’r. (Primary victim: Brother Christopher Ciccone.) As talented and amazing she is for us to adore and be entertained by …..Nikki and Donna got-a-taste of Madonna’s Narcissism. If either of them were ‘overdue’ M made sure she manipulated. (Shed have Nikki’s Mike shut off; purposely have her costumes made too small etc…) When Donna did those last few tours alone without Nikki - the replacement was fawned over

  • @johncengiz6351
    @johncengiz6351 10 місяців тому +7

    Niki really? Didn't know who Madonna was?

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому +1

      She didn’t

    • @MegaJake1971
      @MegaJake1971 10 місяців тому +3

      she's obvs lying@@behindthevelvetrope

    • @ITHINKDAFUCKNOTYOUTRICKASSBITC
      @ITHINKDAFUCKNOTYOUTRICKASSBITC 10 місяців тому +1

      @@behindthevelvetrope she lied, She knew Nikki has amazing voice but Nikki is full of sh!t

    • @veloztony
      @veloztony 10 місяців тому +3

      She knew who she was. Maybe she didn't listen to her music or it wasn't her taste but in 1987 everyone in USA knew.

    • @ITHINKDAFUCKNOTYOUTRICKASSBITC
      @ITHINKDAFUCKNOTYOUTRICKASSBITC 10 місяців тому +1

      @@veloztony YUNNO DATS RIGHT

  • @BryanPowell-b8k
    @BryanPowell-b8k 10 місяців тому +2

    This guy doesn't remember the first album. Funny really. Unless he's nearly 50.

  • @Mokiller1979
    @Mokiller1979 9 місяців тому

    Nikki i love you but i don't believe you didn't know who Madonna was. This was around the "true blue" era (the tour that followed and for wich y'all were casting was Who's That Girl World Tour), Madonna was already established as the biggest superstar, she was on her third album "true blue" that was a HUGE sucess. Even if it was before, she was globaly massive with her "like a virgin" album as well, America was crazy for her and she was everywhere, with ppl dressed like her and all the news abt her, notably her performance at the mtv music awards rolling in the floor dressed as a bride. You just couldn't NOT know who she was. She was a global superstar already. How could you be in the entertainment business (jazz or whatever) and not know who "this Madonna person" was? Sorry, but i don't really believe this.

  • @n.j.7848
    @n.j.7848 10 місяців тому +1

    I don't ever remember Madonna sounding black.

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому +1

      Everybody

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      That’s what everyone says is the song

    • @roxanemontegna9867
      @roxanemontegna9867 10 місяців тому

      Oh yeah. When She first came out people thought she was black until her videos on MTV. When I arrived in NYC the Summer of '84 all the girls had The Madonna look. Good memories.

  • @armandoavilez859
    @armandoavilez859 10 місяців тому +3

    They sound so dismissive.

  • @starsourcer
    @starsourcer 10 місяців тому

    Very awkward beginning.

  • @veloztony
    @veloztony 10 місяців тому +1

    Here we go again, Niki saying again that she didn't know "who this Madonna person was". LOL It was 1987 gurl, you knew.

    • @veloztony
      @veloztony 10 місяців тому

      Now I can believe she maybe wasn't into her style of music. That's fine. But even my grandmother who lived in a small town in TX knew of Madonna in 1985

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      Lol

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      Hmm

  • @howiet1971
    @howiet1971 10 місяців тому +1

    Nikki didnt know who Madonna was... BS, sorry.

  • @MegaJake1971
    @MegaJake1971 10 місяців тому +2

    Pure lies that she'd never heard of Madonna by 1987.. very hard to believe. she's quite disrespectful about Madonna now yet all she does is ride on her coat tales and if it wasn't for Madonna no one would know who she is... only Madonna fans know who she is really anyway.. always seemed a bit pushy to me and trying to overpower Donna all the time. hardly ever let's her talk..

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  10 місяців тому

      Love Madge so much

    • @JB-pl1iu
      @JB-pl1iu 10 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, I find it hard to believe she never heard of Madonna. You would have to be living in the woods as a hermit. I'm not really sure why they initially had a falling out. Maybe she's still sour over that?

    • @MegaJake1971
      @MegaJake1971 10 місяців тому +1

      that's not really the same thing is it. You're obviously of a certain age. back than Niki was young and so was Madonna and her face was all over the TV, newspapers and magazines.. @bubblemiix

  • @lee3171
    @lee3171 9 місяців тому

    I don't like the table, they need to be sitting on a couch or something, I don't enjoy that I never see these women face on

    • @behindthevelvetrope
      @behindthevelvetrope  9 місяців тому

      More vids w niki and Donna posted
      Feel free to check em out

  • @ghstbird3338
    @ghstbird3338 10 місяців тому

    And WHY is it, gay guys these days act and speak like this one on here❓ Can they just talk and act like regular folks. It’s always being - EXTRA.

  • @bunjijumper5345
    @bunjijumper5345 10 місяців тому +5

    Anita Baker is also incredible. I sure wish that Kate Bush toured on the scale that Madonna did. It seems that Madonnas lack of talent caught up with her finally, without her shocking people she cant get played on radio anymore. Whereas Kate Bush's talent lives on without her even giving interviews.

    • @shutupandfkoff
      @shutupandfkoff 10 місяців тому

      So lack of talent your favorite can sell out worldwide tours? Someone who stays for 40 years with that much success?? Rubbish. That's her talent that people still see her. Yet her backups singers still talk about her to get more attention. So shut your rubbish

    • @shutupandfkoff
      @shutupandfkoff 10 місяців тому +6

      Rubbish. Lack of talent is your favorite with very few hits.

    • @shutupandfkoff
      @shutupandfkoff 10 місяців тому

      So lack of talent your favorite can sell out worldwide tours? Someone who stays for 40 years with that much success?? Rubbish. That's her talent that people still see her. Yet her backups singers still talk about her to get more attention. So shut your rubbish

    • @traceyross8528
      @traceyross8528 10 місяців тому

      ​@@shutupandfkoffI loved madonna back in her hey day but it's like wtf she's a boring 65 year old slapper trotting out the same old crap trying to shock! It's seriously laughable now! In the digital age we are forced to live in, madonna is so second rate! It's like yawn to me. I find her granny antics incredibly boring, as do alot of people, we all get a good laugh outta her, so that's something! Whereas the legendary Kate bush doesn't need to tour at 80 years old...gyrating around like some washed up has been!

    • @shutupandfkoff
      @shutupandfkoff 10 місяців тому +6

      And I'm amazed to see these same old people still saying the same bullst about her. She's had the most top 10 hits ever for a female and 50 no.1 1s dance hit songs. Almost All of those songs were co written and produced by madonna. Her collaborators have praised her sense and talent with hard working. And she has one of the most massive catalogues in pop history and stayed in the business for 40 years with all the successful and huge tours, which have been acclaimed, set the bar for others to follow and changed pop culture. Is that easy for you?? Is that even possible with 'lack of talent' you dared to speak of? Then why cant others do it? Sure go ahead, tell your favorite to sing and dance and perform and put a dazzling production for over 2 hours every night around the world with 79 dates waiting. And get acclaimed.
      Show us how she's doing. Sell out with expensive tickets in those arenas. And tell me the talent.
      I wish your favorite could sing live move and dance just half of what madonna does at 65 now. That's a real talent with staying power.
      🙄

  • @humbertohernandez9889
    @humbertohernandez9889 10 місяців тому

    LOVE, LOVE LOVE ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤