I have a set of michelin crossclimate2 on 255/35/20. Not the smoothest ride but can't beat the peace of mind it gives me in wet and snow. It's my 3rd set now from the crossclimate range.
Uniroyals are very good for rain, mud.. had them on 4WD cars in the past, even in snow they performed decent. It is asymmetrical thread and might not work well with some cars due to suspension design. I had asymmetrical 205/45R17 Toyo T1-R. Tires, grip and steering is good but.. the threads/blocks wear uneven.. fast. After 8000km the rear ones sound like a fighter jet. Car is perfectly aligned (every year alignment with new tires) so can not be the problem. So suspension design+tire combo. Straight cut to me is still preferable. For this summer I will switch the proven concept Michelin Pilot Sport 4 or 5. For 120 Euro's each not cheap. Have not heared of good alternative that is "cheaper". Dunlops are OK when new, smooth ride but wear fast, humming noise from all season tires after 7000km (especially 120kph+), rebalanced 10 grams each. I have them for winter 205/55R16 in V model, stiffer sidewall. Would not recommend to use year round. They were "cheap" at 300,- four including fitment. They also have problem putting power down of my 2.2 diesel in corners when I floor it. All in not bad tire, but for demanding driver no go. NOTE Michelin Crossclimate even worse, expensive POS, uneven thread wear is ridiculous.
Grip and efficiency are opposite sides of the coin; you can either have sticky, grippy high rolling resistance or slippery but efficient. And it's worth repeating that here in the U.K. summer tyres are best for summer (April->September) whereas _all season_ are best in winter (except possibly Scotland).
Have used Rainsports (would come as the slightly different tread pattern Rain Expert in higher profile sizes) several times over the decades, presently fitted to our classic Merc, always reliable wet grip and better than most other summer tyres in winter conditions, they also come with over 8mm new tread, where too many new tyres now have 7mm or less, i'm simply not buying anything with under 8mm again which immediately knocks many of the premium makes out of the running no matter how fashionable they might be, Goodyear excepted of which several versions come with 8mm or slightly over. Have Falkens on a Forester XT for summer set, they came with only about 7mm tread but were a bargain price on special offer 4 years ago, despite gripping very well they've worn quite quickly and now cost over twice what i paid for them so won't be buying again. Have always had good experiences with Vredesteins too, whether summer, all season or winter tyres, Quatrac all seasons kept daughters safe in all weathers when they were youngsters, replacing Mich Pilotes with Vred Sportracs improved a previous warm hatch in all aspects, Wintracs proved unstoppable in snow and gripped really well on cold set roads. Have Cooper winters on the Forester presently, must be on their 8th season now and barely worn (had them on a previous Scooby), good in snow and torrential rain but can be skittish on damp salted warm roads, if i was replacing them i'd probably go back to Vreds or Uniroyal winter or all season, having said that those pesky Coopers will probably see the car out used solely in winter and kept fully inflated in a dark garage the rest of the year. Forester has a rather expensive 215/55 x 17 summer size, allowed alternative is 215/60 x 16 which is what i'm using for winter set, two sets means the summer wheels never see salt so still look new, the other benefit of higher profiles is they tend not to get kerb or pot hole damage. Yokohama G015 all season ATs on our Landcruiser, these have proved superb in all weathers, solid grip in all conditions, fairly soft rubber so benefit from increasing the pressures by 5psi all round in hot weather, would definately buy again.
Try Michelin CrossClimate 2. Amazing wet weather braking and grip. Pricey though. Supposed to be ok in the snow as well if that is a consideration even though they are all season and not winter tyres.
I have a MK6 Golf GTI, run the 18” Monza’s summer (repainted now rather than having them diamond cut anymore) and 17” Monza’s in winter. Don’t understand why on earth find the 18’s a pain?? Find a noticeable difference feel and better grip than the 17”. I have run Toyo TR1’s over the years but now Rainsport 5’s brilliant wet or dry be it road plus few track days a year not just a wet day performance tyre.
ive used the rain sport 3 and 5 for the last 10 years they wear very fast , but great in the rain, i now run them at 40 psi this gives me better tire wear and i never felt and downside at this psi
I went for the Continental premium contact 7s on my A3 sports back with 16inch rims. Don’t regret it, much better than the primacy 3s I’ve run it on in the past. But intrested to hear how you get on with the rainsports,
They were chosen for summer driving & track days, a bad decision as the weather has turned very wet and I had them for much longer than I intended and used them mainly on wet roads.
I've used the Rainsport 3 for 4 years and they did brilliantly in the wet. Also the lifespan was quite long . The only downside in comparison with my current ones (Bridgestone T005) was the noise and the fuel consumption. They might have improved this in the 5.
So far it's really good and I have been hammering them. They start off at 8mm which is a little deeper than most and they still seem to be around the 8mm mark but I'll be posting an update video as time goes on. Friends have said they lasted a good long time so I have high expectations for these.
Something that's not been mentioned is one of the central tread patterns is actually partially hollow inside so that when it wears down it becomes exposed and creates a second wet channel to help give the tyre a bit more grip as it wears down
Which country UK i'm guessing? Are you after performance or better economy or an all rounder? The Eagle f1 or Potenzas are probably my top shortlisted tyres at the moment after the rainsports if you want more of an all round tyre.
on the daily kia i run nokian hakkapelliita 11's at the moment, best winter tires i've ever used hands down! For the summer i have a set of goodyear efficientgrip's. and on my tuned caddy i have continental viking contact 7's for the winter, and for summer some old ass bf goodrich g-force of some sort that needs replacing before next season. Thinking about going for some nankang ns2-r's. Several mates run them on their tuned cars and they are very happy with them
I had turanza t005 and they were very good all around and easily gave my car 1.5-2mpg increasse from only 2 of themmbeing fitted let alone 4 (audi a5 diesel) that blew me away they were very good in the wet but need longer to wear in took a good 300 miles to get into their stride zero wet grip on day 1. The uniroyal start off well and get even better unmatched wet grip and anti aquaplaning and the same levels of grip in the dry as the turanzas...the turanzas though are the quietest most efficient and more comfortable than most sport tyres. My t005 came with no rim protection though. I have pirelli powergys on now do not touch these with a barge pole they corner om in the dry and sort of ok in the wet but acceleration or braking in the wet is abysmal forget the reviews they are crap they let go all the time. I would go back to turanzas and rainsports great all round tyres for the money without going pilot sports.
Hey man can I pick your brain on this please? I’ve a BMW 530d that a bought 6 months ago. The Car came fitted with Premium run flats. I drive on country bumpy roads so wanted to go away from runflats as the ride was way too uncomfortable I just got these Uniroyal Ranisport 5’s fitted on the rear of my car yesterday. The front still has the Runflats as not worn down enough to replace yet. I’ve driven about 100km yesterday since getting them fitted. The weather and road surface was dry the whole time. I’ve noticed the handling of my car has greatly disimproved. I drive quite hard and above the speed limit tbh just to test out the tyres and the back end of the car feels way to playful. Almost feels like I’m gonna lose it when power through a bend. Never actually lost traction just feels like there’s a lot more movement and body roll. Even driving fast in a straight line the back was a bit twitchy and overall it’s not giving me as much confidence driving. A friend of mine said that after a day or 2 they should feel normal as they are worn in etc. the fitter also said that because I was used to the harder sidewall on the run flats that it feels weird for me driving, but tbh it feels a bit more than that it kinda feels dangerous at times. Final my question for you is, once you got these tyres fitted, did they feel similar to this for you and did they take a bit of driving before they started performing well? I’ve read nothing but positive reviews in these tyres and the fitter recommended them to me that’s why I’ve got them fitted
They did take a week before I felt they bedded in, once the colour bands vanish they should be at their optimum. The cornering felt a little vague at first but it digs in nicely now for me. You are also comparing a runflat which has a very hard solid sidewall with a normal tyre with very flexible sidewalls, so they are going to feel quite different, but you'll grow to appreciate them I'm sure. The runflats are quite forgiving when driven hard as there is no flexing, but the skill you need to hone now is progressive throttle and steering to wring out the best on these. I bet you can drift much better and more controllable on these. As an aside, it is worth you checking they are correctly mounted (tread direction) and the pressures are correct, you may be dealing with an underinflated or overinflated tyre here. Bear in mind that these are wet weather tyres, they are at best average in dry hot summer conditions, but in the wet oh boy do they grip well.
Man its not good to have runflat mix with the new RS5 Put them all round and use mpre 0.2 and 0.3 bars on the Rs5 than they ask on thr door. Its a great tyre and in my case Tramlining i have on my BMW goes away So totally different case than yours
I have a set of michelin crossclimate2 on 255/35/20. Not the smoothest ride but can't beat the peace of mind it gives me in wet and snow. It's my 3rd set now from the crossclimate range.
Uniroyals are very good for rain, mud.. had them on 4WD cars in the past, even in snow they performed decent. It is asymmetrical thread and might not work well with some cars due to suspension design. I had asymmetrical 205/45R17 Toyo T1-R. Tires, grip and steering is good but.. the threads/blocks wear uneven.. fast. After 8000km the rear ones sound like a fighter jet. Car is perfectly aligned (every year alignment with new tires) so can not be the problem. So suspension design+tire combo. Straight cut to me is still preferable.
For this summer I will switch the proven concept Michelin Pilot Sport 4 or 5. For 120 Euro's each not cheap. Have not heared of good alternative that is "cheaper".
Dunlops are OK when new, smooth ride but wear fast, humming noise from all season tires after 7000km (especially 120kph+), rebalanced 10 grams each. I have them for winter 205/55R16 in V model, stiffer sidewall. Would not recommend to use year round. They were "cheap" at 300,- four including fitment. They also have problem putting power down of my 2.2 diesel in corners when I floor it. All in not bad tire, but for demanding driver no go. NOTE Michelin Crossclimate even worse, expensive POS, uneven thread wear is ridiculous.
I also live in the U.K.,,about a month ago I went for four brand new nexen nfera su1’s and I have to say they are awesome especially in wet conditions
Grip and efficiency are opposite sides of the coin; you can either have sticky, grippy high rolling resistance or slippery but efficient. And it's worth repeating that here in the U.K. summer tyres are best for summer (April->September) whereas _all season_ are best in winter (except possibly Scotland).
Uni royal Rainsport 3 or 5 whats better. 3 seems to cost a little more than 5
Have used Rainsports (would come as the slightly different tread pattern Rain Expert in higher profile sizes) several times over the decades, presently fitted to our classic Merc, always reliable wet grip and better than most other summer tyres in winter conditions, they also come with over 8mm new tread, where too many new tyres now have 7mm or less, i'm simply not buying anything with under 8mm again which immediately knocks many of the premium makes out of the running no matter how fashionable they might be, Goodyear excepted of which several versions come with 8mm or slightly over.
Have Falkens on a Forester XT for summer set, they came with only about 7mm tread but were a bargain price on special offer 4 years ago, despite gripping very well they've worn quite quickly and now cost over twice what i paid for them so won't be buying again.
Have always had good experiences with Vredesteins too, whether summer, all season or winter tyres, Quatrac all seasons kept daughters safe in all weathers when they were youngsters, replacing Mich Pilotes with Vred Sportracs improved a previous warm hatch in all aspects, Wintracs proved unstoppable in snow and gripped really well on cold set roads.
Have Cooper winters on the Forester presently, must be on their 8th season now and barely worn (had them on a previous Scooby), good in snow and torrential rain but can be skittish on damp salted warm roads, if i was replacing them i'd probably go back to Vreds or Uniroyal winter or all season, having said that those pesky Coopers will probably see the car out used solely in winter and kept fully inflated in a dark garage the rest of the year.
Forester has a rather expensive 215/55 x 17 summer size, allowed alternative is 215/60 x 16 which is what i'm using for winter set, two sets means the summer wheels never see salt so still look new, the other benefit of higher profiles is they tend not to get kerb or pot hole damage.
Yokohama G015 all season ATs on our Landcruiser, these have proved superb in all weathers, solid grip in all conditions, fairly soft rubber so benefit from increasing the pressures by 5psi all round in hot weather, would definately buy again.
Try Michelin CrossClimate 2. Amazing wet weather braking and grip. Pricey though. Supposed to be ok in the snow as well if that is a consideration even though they are all season and not winter tyres.
I have a MK6 Golf GTI, run the 18” Monza’s summer (repainted now rather than having them diamond cut anymore) and 17” Monza’s in winter.
Don’t understand why on earth find the 18’s a pain?? Find a noticeable difference feel and better grip than the 17”.
I have run Toyo TR1’s over the years but now Rainsport 5’s brilliant wet or dry be it road plus few track days a year not just a wet day performance tyre.
ive used the rain sport 3 and 5 for the last 10 years they wear very fast , but great in the rain, i now run them at 40 psi this gives me better tire wear and i never felt and downside at this psi
I went for the Continental premium contact 7s on my A3 sports back with 16inch rims. Don’t regret it, much better than the primacy 3s I’ve run it on in the past. But intrested to hear how you get on with the rainsports,
I'll keep you posted, I'm taking notes as I go so I can compare them.
My Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2 cracked JUST like that too on a 235/45/18. Very disappointing. Replacement Michelin have been perfect.
The tread pattern on those Dunlop's looked as if they would be a poor choice for rain even when new, no sipes in tread blocks.
They were chosen for summer driving & track days, a bad decision as the weather has turned very wet and I had them for much longer than I intended and used them mainly on wet roads.
I've used the Rainsport 3 for 4 years and they did brilliantly in the wet. Also the lifespan was quite long . The only downside in comparison with my current ones (Bridgestone T005) was the noise and the fuel consumption. They might have improved this in the 5.
i used the 3 and the 5 , i found they wear quick, but agree with the rest i found a higher psi works best at 40 psi
Treadwear rain sport 5?
So far it's really good and I have been hammering them. They start off at 8mm which is a little deeper than most and they still seem to be around the 8mm mark but I'll be posting an update video as time goes on. Friends have said they lasted a good long time so I have high expectations for these.
Something that's not been mentioned is one of the central tread patterns is actually partially hollow inside so that when it wears down it becomes exposed and creates a second wet channel to help give the tyre a bit more grip as it wears down
What’s the best tyres for a vw Passat with 18 inch rims?
Which country UK i'm guessing? Are you after performance or better economy or an all rounder? The Eagle f1 or Potenzas are probably my top shortlisted tyres at the moment after the rainsports if you want more of an all round tyre.
@@torquecars I am in the uk I currently use hankook tyres all weather
I use Continentals and gotta say they have been very good for me at least.
Which Tire/Tyre brands do you prefer? What's on your car at the moment?
on the daily kia i run nokian hakkapelliita 11's at the moment, best winter tires i've ever used hands down!
For the summer i have a set of goodyear efficientgrip's.
and on my tuned caddy i have continental viking contact 7's for the winter, and for summer some old ass bf goodrich g-force of some sort that needs replacing before next season. Thinking about going for some nankang ns2-r's. Several mates run them on their tuned cars and they are very happy with them
I use hankook for my vw Passat all weather tyres
what is your daily driver?
I have an Audi A3 150hp, nothing too exciting, I'm at that practical stage of my life now!
@@torquecars I am driving a 2002 golf 1.8t auq 180hp myself the 1.8t is great engine
Drizzling rain is the most common condition in the UK. No brainer choice
The Uniroyals are the best tyres for wet roads and against acquaplanning, but they are average on dry riads.
Roads
Put more pressure and they good
I had turanza t005 and they were very good all around and easily gave my car 1.5-2mpg increasse from only 2 of themmbeing fitted let alone 4 (audi a5 diesel) that blew me away they were very good in the wet but need longer to wear in took a good 300 miles to get into their stride zero wet grip on day 1. The uniroyal start off well and get even better unmatched wet grip and anti aquaplaning and the same levels of grip in the dry as the turanzas...the turanzas though are the quietest most efficient and more comfortable than most sport tyres. My t005 came with no rim protection though. I have pirelli powergys on now do not touch these with a barge pole they corner om in the dry and sort of ok in the wet but acceleration or braking in the wet is abysmal forget the reviews they are crap they let go all the time. I would go back to turanzas and rainsports great all round tyres for the money without going pilot sports.
The best ive had dry and wet
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Hey man can I pick your brain on this please?
I’ve a BMW 530d that a bought 6 months ago. The Car came fitted with Premium run flats. I drive on country bumpy roads so wanted to go away from runflats as the ride was way too uncomfortable
I just got these Uniroyal Ranisport 5’s fitted on the rear of my car yesterday. The front still has the Runflats as not worn down enough to replace yet.
I’ve driven about 100km yesterday since getting them fitted. The weather and road surface was dry the whole time.
I’ve noticed the handling of my car has greatly disimproved. I drive quite hard and above the speed limit tbh just to test out the tyres and the back end of the car feels way to playful. Almost feels like I’m gonna lose it when power through a bend. Never actually lost traction just feels like there’s a lot more movement and body roll. Even driving fast in a straight line the back was a bit twitchy and overall it’s not giving me as much confidence driving.
A friend of mine said that after a day or 2 they should feel normal as they are worn in etc. the fitter also said that because I was used to the harder sidewall on the run flats that it feels weird for me driving, but tbh it feels a bit more than that it kinda feels dangerous at times.
Final my question for you is, once you got these tyres fitted, did they feel similar to this for you and did they take a bit of driving before they started performing well?
I’ve read nothing but positive reviews in these tyres and the fitter recommended them to me that’s why I’ve got them fitted
They did take a week before I felt they bedded in, once the colour bands vanish they should be at their optimum. The cornering felt a little vague at first but it digs in nicely now for me.
You are also comparing a runflat which has a very hard solid sidewall with a normal tyre with very flexible sidewalls, so they are going to feel quite different, but you'll grow to appreciate them I'm sure.
The runflats are quite forgiving when driven hard as there is no flexing, but the skill you need to hone now is progressive throttle and steering to wring out the best on these. I bet you can drift much better and more controllable on these.
As an aside, it is worth you checking they are correctly mounted (tread direction) and the pressures are correct, you may be dealing with an underinflated or overinflated tyre here.
Bear in mind that these are wet weather tyres, they are at best average in dry hot summer conditions, but in the wet oh boy do they grip well.
Man its not good to have runflat mix with the new RS5
Put them all round and use mpre 0.2 and 0.3 bars on the Rs5 than they ask on thr door.
Its a great tyre and in my case Tramlining i have on my BMW goes away
So totally different case than yours