You sir are the owner operators friend. If you did everything exactly right in the safest way possible, you're still going to get Flack from someone. Don't worry about the small stuff or the negative comments, keep doing what you're doing and giving us some great info. Thank you so much for your videos.
Loving these videos ! Never hurts to do any maintenance on your own rig! Huge savings versus having a shop do it! Brakes, Oil, Air, and suspension components add up when you DIY! Thanks for all that you do!
Gordon I am from England I love your videos, if people don't like your videos why are they watching them. You are straight honest person trying to help people it is admirable. Thank You
Gordon , years ago when most trucks had 5 spoke hubs , we put a block of wood at the fattest part of the side wall and rotated the tire to check for run out on spoke wheels , but the same principal holds true for bud wheels
G’day Gordon and greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺 improvisation is the mother of invention so bugger the experts if it works so be it, a lot of people like myself were self taught and it work like your brake job well done Gordon regards John
keep up the good work, have 3 of the exact trucks, we spend the weekends working on them, love your videos, me and my wife save so much money,thanks, God bless you.
Hey man. If it works, it works. Don't listen to these guys. If they knew how to change brakes, then why are they watching your videos in the first place? I like to watch your vidoes to learn different ways and to improve my skills as a tech. Also, when I teach someone how to change brakes, i send them videos so they can learn when not at the shop and to learn other ways. Keep on rockin'!
Thank you Sir. I do have a variety of other videos besides big trucks, have a look at the playlists on my channel. I'm still new here and don't have time to record everything but the collection's growing.
I've never actually pried on the slack adjuster to measure the travel. I've always just tightened em down until they stop and then backed em up a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn. I tap on the drum with the wrench. If it rings it's usually a little too loose, and if it has a dead thud it's too tight. I can tell by the sound. It's always worked well. Crazy as it might sound.
I love the videos!! Keep 'em coming! And don't let those keyboard-warriors who don't even so much as own a single socket much less wrench on their own stuff get to you - unfortunately, the internet is full of trolls like that. If you ever get a chance could you do a quick video on all components of an air brake setup, the governor, dryer, tanks, etc.? There really aren't any quality videos that cover an entire system on an actual truck. Thanks again for the videos!
I would have to study up on the air brake system to do a video on that, I only know what I had to learn doing my own repairs which at best is maybe 1/4 enough to do a decent video. I could think about doing something for DIYers to do some maintenance and minor repairs, good idea!
You are correct Gordon, not alot of big truck repairs on video, which is how I found you in the first place. Keep doing what you're doing, there's alot of us are thankful for the videos you put up. Keep doing what you're doing, there's always going to be people that talk smack. Pay them no mind
Appreciate the videos man they're very informative they'll save me a lot of money throughout my career. I'm a new driver I really wish I could find a guy like you to take me under his wing al give me his knowledge which would be better than any amount of money in the world.
great job ! I wonder if there is a spring tool you could get to make it a little easier ? Not that you have ti have it just that it saves you some time and knuckels . I wasn't ever shown how to check the distance on the s cam thanks for showing me !
Thanks Cody, I think there some special tools for that but once every 2 or 3 years, it's not worth it if it's not hard to do it without it, I do have all those brake tools for cars though.
What make of front axle was that? I used to work in a shop that made hundreds of thousands of different sized King Pins and Brake pins, such as the roller you had in your hand. Most went to Rockwell, now called Meritor. Also we produced for Eaton.
Can I make a few suggestions Gordon? The rollers that go next to the blue spring should go in first. Hook the shoes together with the blue spring and pick them up together. Hang them without the rollers by the orange springs on. This will allow you to put the orange springs on without needing tools. Pry the top shoe up and put that roller in. Pry the bottom shoe down and put that roller in. That’s the way I do them at work and it makes it a lot easier. Keep up the good work bud. It seems like you help out a lot of guys when I read the comments on your videos.
You’re welcome. I was thinking that on this video it wouldn’t have worked because you mentioned how the pins were seized in. That’s usually not a problem for us because we usually get new pins and bushings in the hardware kit when we do a set of drums and shoes. If you ever get another brake job try one side my way and see what you think. To me, it seems a lot easier. But you’d have to try it out for yourself to know for sure
The tia training class said anti seize reduces the clamping force when you're torquing the nuts. I see trucks with it on all the time but I wouldnt recommend using it. Just use a little 30 weight oil for the nuts and studs.
Hey Gordon ignore any negative comments from jealous trolls you make a great job and just like the saying " there's more than one way to skin a cat " you get the job done and do it well, and I appreciate your videos as I have an old western star with a 12.7L series 60 in it also and your videos including this are very useful to me as I can't afford to pay expensive mechanics to do all the work that I can do myself. Thanks again and keep up the great work, I subscribed to your channel a while ago and enjoy your efforts & time in sharing your knowledge. Cheers mate, Tim from Down under in New Zealand
Forget about the internet trolls that have nothing better to do in the little less interesting lives than to criticized someone trying to teach others how to do simple repairs on their heavy vehicles thanks.
Hello Gordon another good video.I have a question regarding the front wheel bearings,I had the inner one spin on me n wear the spindle abit, Freightliner wants $1300 for a new one plus king pin on top, do you have any tricks to repair a spindle without replacing it?
I can't be sure without seeing your spindle but you probably don't need to change the spindle at all, the inner race of the bearing should not spin on the spindle, that's what burned it up in the 1st place, only the rollers should roll on the inner race without the race moving at all. Put a new or different bearing on the shaft and see if it can rock from side to side noticeably, if hardly any movement can be seen or felt when twisting it left and right on the bad spot then your good to go, just replace the bearing, race and seal and you will be fine. Let me know how it goes.
Torque spex on the lugs are important for cars also... Aside from not being able to change a flat, too much can warp a rotor... which, to my surprise, magically fixed itself when I tightened it properly. Will big trucks use disk brakes eventually?
You're right, 60 ft. lbs. on big cars and I don't know on the little cars, 45 should be good, that's what it would be on 7/16 bolts. About disk brakes on trucks, you're late, I don't know when they came out but there are air disk brakes already.
I don't service this guys truck, but on mine, I would guess if it were a hand pump grease gun about 3 or so pumps. My grease gun is a bigger shop size one on wheels that uses air.
They don't seem too bad to change other than everything being heavy, I find these interesting since I have zero experience working on that type vehicle.
Are the adjusters for the brakes self adjusters. If so can’t you push the washer in that’s behind the adjustment nut and back the cams off. With out the sound of it killing the adjusters.
So many ways.... pop the front springs after backing off with a pointed bar.hang springs and rollers stretch shorties and with a chain and point bar roll ot over. Easy peasy
Looks just like mine. Won't the pressure from the air brake (parking brake) prevent you from backing off the shoes? Feels unsafe working under there with just jack stands and chocks.
How I take them off if you put your screw driver or prybar inside of the small springs you have hit it down with a hammer and the little springs just fly off
I k ow it’s an old video, but it’s easier to take the two smaller springs off first. Get a pry bar and a hammer. Put it on the smaller springs and hammer between the spring and the shoe to get it off. Then you can just pull/unfold the shoes toward the big spring. Putting them on is whatever is easiest for you. I’ve seen a few different ways.
Hello there, I Like your style. I am in central america, planning to get my first tractor, I already do a lot of fixing, and getting lots of your experience, very useful when on the road with not much much equipment to get things fixed, but I wonder, if some body asks me to change those breaks, how much is the rate to do that job, I really have no idea on how to put a price on hand of work matters. Thanks for reading.
I can only say that my rate varies from job to job depending on the clients ability to pay, and the need of the job (whether it is necessary to drive the truck, car or whatever it is) cosmetics or convenience (body and paint or power inverters etc.) are not so important. And then the economy in Central America is so different from here in the States that the rates needed here would be 2 or 3 times higher than where you are. My average rate would be somewhere around $50 Dollars an hour so the brake job would be $ 50. plus parts.
When you put new brake shoes on, shouldn't you also replace the drum? I need to do brakes all around and plan on new drums as well. All I need is time, sunshine, and money... The money part might be a while😣
It seems to me that some of the Keyboard Warriors don't know Jack or where Jack was last seen. Gordon, you do your work the way you do and let them get over it.
If it has sealed bearings I don't have a video on it, if it's the one with the little oil plug in the middle, here's a video on that, part 1 has removal ua-cam.com/video/XNbKKYDi-Ag/v-deo.html and part 4 has reinstall ua-cam.com/video/1uUxF70j_P0/v-deo.html if you have the sealed bearings it has a big hex nut cap in the middle. Let me know if that's what you have.
Gordon Robertson. Thanks buddy in the end, I ended up buying a 10 ton extractor to remove the hub, ended up using my big impact gun to tighten up the extractor, after 15 mins of impacting it finally popped off like a rocket 😂
Jajaja they can kiss ur ass for flack they give you i find them usefull i do a eeekley inspection on my truck & when came time to fix my brake i watch you video iam happy i did my own seal thx to you mr robertson
I know some guys that bought old hwy trucks from the 70's and put grain boxes on them in the 80's and they cut off all the front brakes because you didn't need them lol we will just say they don't see the road anymore.
Easier to pop those springs out at 5:40 on the j part put a flat head on the inside of the brake pad and pry up on it itlll pop out do that to both sides get the pry bar like you did on the other side and flip them over pads will come out way faster
You sir are the owner operators friend. If you did everything exactly right in the safest way possible, you're still going to get Flack from someone. Don't worry about the small stuff or the negative comments, keep doing what you're doing and giving us some great info. Thank you so much for your videos.
Thanks John.
Loving these videos ! Never hurts to do any maintenance on your own rig! Huge savings versus having a shop do it! Brakes, Oil, Air, and suspension components add up when you DIY! Thanks for all that you do!
Thank you Sir.
Ol school is the way to go. Loving these videos
Thank you for taking the time to make an informative useful video. No bullshit and straight to the point.
I really appreciate your videos they've helped me alot and saved me some money about to to some front brakes today on my 01 fld120
Thank you for showing step by step how to change brake shoes. Your video helped out a ton.
Gordon I am from England I love your videos, if people don't like your videos why are they watching them. You are straight honest person trying to help people it is admirable. Thank You
Gordon , years ago when most trucks had 5 spoke hubs , we put a block of wood at the fattest part of the side wall and rotated the tire to check for run out on spoke wheels , but the same principal holds true for bud wheels
Thanks for sharing. Always wanted to know how to change my own brakes. It damn near frightened me to take the challenge . Very informative. 👍🏿
Thanks for watching.
G’day Gordon and greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺 improvisation is the mother of invention so bugger the experts if it works so be it, a lot of people like myself were self taught and it work like your brake job well done Gordon regards John
keep up the good work, have 3 of the exact trucks, we spend the weekends working on them, love your videos, me and my wife save so much money,thanks, God bless you.
Hey man. If it works, it works. Don't listen to these guys. If they knew how to change brakes, then why are they watching your videos in the first place? I like to watch your vidoes to learn different ways and to improve my skills as a tech. Also, when I teach someone how to change brakes, i send them videos so they can learn when not at the shop and to learn other ways. Keep on rockin'!
Thank you for taking the extra time during the repair to make this video. The video is very useful. Good commentary.
Thanks for watching.
donot let some a holes disciorage you,you r the best,love your videos
Thank you sir.
Great job keep them coming your showing how to work with what you have you get the job done
You know your stuff Gordon, nice work mate.
Thank you sir.
Another great job sir! You make it look easy!😎👍
Thanks Anibal.
This video is super helpful. Biggest part of DIY is FIO (figuring it out).
Sir you video gives me the courage to change my brakes and drums my self for the first time. Thanks.
Gordon, I don't drive or work on these beasts but I love your videos!
Thank you Sir. I do have a variety of other videos besides big trucks, have a look at the playlists on my channel. I'm still new here and don't have time to record everything but the collection's growing.
Thanks GR! it takes time and effort to make videos like this.
Thanks for watching and subbing.
Awesome video
great job gordon keep it up you save me a lot money on my old truck
Thanks for watching, I'm glad to hear the channel is helping.
I've never actually pried on the slack adjuster to measure the travel. I've always just tightened em down until they stop and then backed em up a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn. I tap on the drum with the wrench. If it rings it's usually a little too loose, and if it has a dead thud it's too tight. I can tell by the sound. It's always worked well. Crazy as it might sound.
I know it's kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream newly released series online ?
@Samuel Kevin meh I would suggest flixportal. Just google after it =) -abel
@Abel Kairo Thank you, signed up and it seems like a nice service :D I appreciate it!
@Samuel Kevin happy to help :D
so you think brakes are setup properly when theyre slightly dragging? dumb
Like your videos been watching since you did the engine rebuild on your own truck
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thx for the video. Not sure why I love watching these, I don't even work on trucks lol. Maybe someday haha
Thanks for watching and subbing.
Thank you for the video. I think it's going to help me do my job.
Thank you sir.
Great job,thank you for your time
Gordon good work keep making it we all love your videos thanks
Thank you Sir.
Awesome videos sir I’m a mechanic also and I learn new strategies from your videos!
Thanks for watching.
Gordon keep up the good wrk i watch the video's for entertainment and it is refreshing to see you do the real thing to these heavy vehicles.
Thanks for watching Jesse.
thanks so much ...
I am old, my truck pretty dam old
thanks for your advice to keep us running .. :)
Thank you Sir for watching and subscribing.
I have like a couple million miles on a Mack/Renault MH model
Very "helpful" Mr. Gordon Thankyou
Your doing great sir!
Great video! Very helpful.
Thanks for watching Jeffry.
Thanks so much for this, nice and clear video and good explanation. I need to work on the front brakes on my MCI former Greyhound.
Glad to hear it helps. I have a lot more videos on brakes and other things I do on this old truck in my truck repair playlist. Thanks for watching.
I love the videos!! Keep 'em coming!
And don't let those keyboard-warriors who don't even so much as own a single socket much less wrench on their own stuff get to you - unfortunately, the internet is full of trolls like that.
If you ever get a chance could you do a quick video on all components of an air brake setup, the governor, dryer, tanks, etc.? There really aren't any quality videos that cover an entire system on an actual truck. Thanks again for the videos!
I would have to study up on the air brake system to do a video on that, I only know what I had to learn doing my own repairs which at best is maybe 1/4 enough to do a decent video. I could think about doing something for DIYers to do some maintenance and minor repairs, good idea!
Gordon Robertson thank you Gordon
You are correct Gordon, not alot of big truck repairs on video, which is how I found you in the first place. Keep doing what you're doing, there's alot of us are thankful for the videos you put up. Keep doing what you're doing, there's always going to be people that talk smack. Pay them no mind
Internet is definitely full of trolls! I think he does a good job.
best video ever, keep it coming
thanks.
Nice job been awhile great refresher
Thanks for watching.
You are doing a good job my American friend.
Appreciate the videos mate !
Glad you like them!
Appreciate the videos man they're very informative they'll save me a lot of money throughout my career. I'm a new driver I really wish I could find a guy like you to take me under his wing al give me his knowledge which would be better than any amount of money in the world.
Thanks for watching.
Wow, you really cleaned up that brake S cam assembly area
Thanks for watching.
Man that truck is rough!
Good video! I might have to do this to my dump truck if I decide to put it back on the road!
I hope it works out good for you.
keep em coming!
Thanks for watching.
Excellent videos!
Thanks for watching.
You keep going you'll be a pro in no time
This is my favorite channel
Thanks.
Gordon, America was built on self taught. Do not bother worrying about other negative comments.
great job ! I wonder if there is a spring tool you could get to make it a little easier ? Not that you have ti have it just that it saves you some time and knuckels . I wasn't ever shown how to check the distance on the s cam thanks for showing me !
Thanks Cody, I think there some special tools for that but once every 2 or 3 years, it's not worth it if it's not hard to do it without it, I do have all those brake tools for cars though.
That's the way we do it. We are small company and saving money is more important than being fancy. Good job.
Thanks for watching.
What make of front axle was that? I used to work in a shop that made hundreds of thousands of different sized King Pins and Brake pins, such as the roller you had in your hand. Most went to Rockwell, now called Meritor. Also we produced for Eaton.
Thanks for your video.
Thanks for watching.
Great job sir 👏
Thanks Darrin.
Can I make a few suggestions Gordon? The rollers that go next to the blue spring should go in first. Hook the shoes together with the blue spring and pick them up together. Hang them without the rollers by the orange springs on. This will allow you to put the orange springs on without needing tools. Pry the top shoe up and put that roller in. Pry the bottom shoe down and put that roller in. That’s the way I do them at work and it makes it a lot easier. Keep up the good work bud. It seems like you help out a lot of guys when I read the comments on your videos.
Thanks Sergio.
You’re welcome. I was thinking that on this video it wouldn’t have worked because you mentioned how the pins were seized in. That’s usually not a problem for us because we usually get new pins and bushings in the hardware kit when we do a set of drums and shoes. If you ever get another brake job try one side my way and see what you think. To me, it seems a lot easier. But you’d have to try it out for yourself to know for sure
Great tutorial! Thank you
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video it helped me a lot
Thanks for watching.
The tia training class said anti seize reduces the clamping force when you're torquing the nuts. I see trucks with it on all the time but I wouldnt recommend using it. Just use a little 30 weight oil for the nuts and studs.
Hey, great videos, I also have an automotive background, but I work on my own dump truck brakes etc. It is just bigger gear but the same principal.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Vicegrips on springs works perfect.
Love the videos
Thanks for watching.
Hey Gordon ignore any negative comments from jealous trolls you make a great job and just like the saying " there's more than one way to skin a cat " you get the job done and do it well, and I appreciate your videos as I have an old western star with a 12.7L series 60 in it also and your videos including this are very useful to me as I can't afford to pay expensive mechanics to do all the work that I can do myself. Thanks again and keep up the great work, I subscribed to your channel a while ago and enjoy your efforts & time in sharing your knowledge. Cheers mate, Tim from Down under in New Zealand
Thank you.
Forget about the internet trolls that have nothing better to do in the little less interesting lives than to criticized someone trying to teach others how to do simple repairs on their heavy vehicles thanks.
Hello Gordon another good video.I have a question regarding the front wheel bearings,I had the inner one spin on me n wear the spindle abit, Freightliner wants $1300 for a new one plus king pin on top, do you have any tricks to repair a spindle without replacing it?
I can't be sure without seeing your spindle but you probably don't need to change the spindle at all, the inner race of the bearing should not spin on the spindle, that's what burned it up in the 1st place, only the rollers should roll on the inner race without the race moving at all. Put a new or different bearing on the shaft and see if it can rock from side to side noticeably, if hardly any movement can be seen or felt when twisting it left and right on the bad spot then your good to go, just replace the bearing, race and seal and you will be fine. Let me know how it goes.
great job gordon
Thanks Eric.
What is the part number for the front shoes and drums, where did you get it and price
Torque spex on the lugs are important for cars also... Aside from not being able to change a flat, too much can warp a rotor... which, to my surprise, magically fixed itself when I tightened it properly.
Will big trucks use disk brakes eventually?
You're right, 60 ft. lbs. on big cars and I don't know on the little cars, 45 should be good, that's what it would be on 7/16 bolts. About disk brakes on trucks, you're late, I don't know when they came out but there are air disk brakes already.
I have disk brakes on my 2014 Cascadia.
How many shots of grease do you put in the S-cam when you service the truck?
I don't service this guys truck, but on mine, I would guess if it were a hand pump grease gun about 3 or so pumps. My grease gun is a bigger shop size one on wheels that uses air.
They don't seem too bad to change other than everything being heavy, I find these interesting since I have zero experience working on that type vehicle.
Not bad at all and I don't find the parts to be that heavy.
It doesn’t matter how you do it as long as you get the job done. And done safely
Are the adjusters for the brakes self adjusters.
If so can’t you push the washer in that’s behind the adjustment nut and back the cams off. With out the sound of it killing the adjusters.
Thank you sir
Thank you big help!
Glad to hear it helped. Thanks for watching.
Leverage. Its all about the leverage.
You do brakes the weirdest way I’ve ever seen but if it works for you, to hell with what anybody else says. Good video
You do brakes also?
So many ways.... pop the front springs after backing off with a pointed bar.hang springs and rollers stretch shorties and with a chain and point bar roll ot over. Easy peasy
umm, maybe the vice grips to remove the springs also?
Looks just like mine. Won't the pressure from the air brake (parking brake) prevent you from backing off the shoes? Feels unsafe working under there with just jack stands and chocks.
not on front brakes, the parking brake is only on the rear drive axle on most trucks.
How I take them off if you put your screw driver or prybar inside of the small springs you have hit it down with a hammer and the little springs just fly off
Mr where are your jack stands? Safty first. Safty glasses etc
good job sir
What does it mean If the clutch pedal get stuck down when you push it
U can use a hammer to top your screw driver in. The springs will pop out. After u pull your rollers out u can pull both shoes off
Stretch the spring with your pry bar prying on the bottom shoe against the axle as far as you can go down. If your using new springs that is.
I k ow it’s an old video, but it’s easier to take the two smaller springs off first. Get a pry bar and a hammer. Put it on the smaller springs and hammer between the spring and the shoe to get it off. Then you can just pull/unfold the shoes toward the big spring. Putting them on is whatever is easiest for you. I’ve seen a few different ways.
Hello there, I Like your style. I am in central america, planning to get my first tractor, I already do a lot of fixing, and getting lots of your experience, very useful when on the road with not much much equipment to get things fixed, but I wonder, if some body asks me to change those breaks, how much is the rate to do that job, I really have no idea on how to put a price on hand of work matters. Thanks for reading.
I can only say that my rate varies from job to job depending on the clients ability to pay, and the need of the job (whether it is necessary to drive the truck, car or whatever it is) cosmetics or convenience (body and paint or power inverters etc.) are not so important. And then the economy in Central America is so different from here in the States that the rates needed here would be 2 or 3 times higher than where you are. My average rate would be somewhere around $50 Dollars an hour so the brake job would be $ 50. plus parts.
Did you ever do a video on fixing the shifter slack
No I didn't. Sorry.
good man👍
When you put new brake shoes on, shouldn't you also replace the drum? I need to do brakes all around and plan on new drums as well. All I need is time, sunshine, and money... The money part might be a while😣
You don't always need to change drums, maybe every 2 or 3 brake jobs. Shoes only cost about $40 or $50 per wheel.
It seems to me that some of the Keyboard Warriors don't know Jack or where Jack was last seen. Gordon, you do your work the way you do and let them get over it.
"Don't know where Jack was last seen" I like that one. Thanks for watching.
What about some tricks removing the steer hub I'm having a hard time removing my steer hub, the bearings are trashed on my 99 fld
If it has sealed bearings I don't have a video on it, if it's the one with the little oil plug in the middle, here's a video on that, part 1 has removal ua-cam.com/video/XNbKKYDi-Ag/v-deo.html and part 4 has reinstall ua-cam.com/video/1uUxF70j_P0/v-deo.html if you have the sealed bearings it has a big hex nut cap in the middle. Let me know if that's what you have.
Gordon Robertson. Thanks buddy in the end, I ended up buying a 10 ton extractor to remove the hub, ended up using my big impact gun to tighten up the extractor, after 15 mins of impacting it finally popped off like a rocket 😂
Just bought a tri axle dump love the vids learning a lot keep them coming,and don't worry about the assholes and their stupid comments.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Gracias
Jajaja they can kiss ur ass for flack they give you i find them usefull i do a eeekley inspection on my truck & when came time to fix my brake i watch you video iam happy i did my own seal thx to you mr robertson
Thanks, good to hear you like them.
Use vice grips the same way you put them on.
My dads old cabover Mack never had front breaks ?
I've heard of that, the way people drive these days you need all the brakes you can get.
I know some guys that bought old hwy trucks from the 70's and put grain boxes on them in the 80's and they cut off all the front brakes because you didn't need them lol we will just say they don't see the road anymore.
This guy sounds like Johnny Cash for real
Easier to pop those springs out at 5:40 on the j part put a flat head on the inside of the brake pad and pry up on it itlll pop out do that to both sides get the pry bar like you did on the other side and flip them over pads will come out way faster
Basically start at 5:50 and the pads will come over taking the other side out is a waste of time
I don't know how many times I have seen people wrestling those wheels because they were to stubborn to go get something to leverage it up:)
I'm not weak but I'm not going to waste my back on something so easy to remedy.