"Confutatis Maledictis"

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  • Amadeus, es una película estadounidense de cine de época del año 1984, dirigida por Miloš Forman, vagamente basada en la vida de los compositores Antonio Salieri y Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
    "Copyright Disclaimer Bajo la Sección 107 de la Ley de Propiedad Intelectual de 1976, se tiene en cuenta para el" uso justo "para propósitos tales como crítica, comentario de noticias, la enseñanza, el estudio y la investigación.
    Yosias Warhola

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  • @Maggbba
    @Maggbba 11 років тому +1397

    One of the greatest scenes of all time.

    • @FreddieBluk
      @FreddieBluk 4 роки тому +4

      MagBa you are totally right

    • @rodolfoleyva5157
      @rodolfoleyva5157 4 роки тому +4

      Academy Award worthy

    • @stoker1931jane
      @stoker1931jane 4 роки тому

      Even the writer of 'Amadeus' Peter Shaffer agrees with us, on this scene being the best in the movie ✌🏻 ua-cam.com/video/qmBHo_RlSxE/v-deo.html

    • @markusmuller6173
      @markusmuller6173 Рік тому +1

      It's already an open secret that Salieri made Mozart suffer in order to gain fame with his Requiem before ultimately killing him... Nowadays I would like to know what happened to Clemens Arvay recently. Why hasn't his hair been examined for (unwanted) substances like those of Beethoven? How many swamp creatures are there in Vienna and the surrounding area these days?

  • @MigPlz91LivestreamOnly
    @MigPlz91LivestreamOnly 7 років тому +1575

    one of the most iconic scene's in the film. Salieri now understands how Mozart's mind is and how insane it is

    • @JohnMoore-qv4vn
      @JohnMoore-qv4vn 5 років тому +59

      Only insane if you consider the sublimity of the ineffable insane.

    • @rontiemens2553
      @rontiemens2553 5 років тому +90

      The mere mortal was overwhelmed as he tried to channel the divine inspiration.

    • @freethrice
      @freethrice 5 років тому +25

      Insanity is quite brilliant, the sane will ever be paid for their inability to understand, let alone help this condition. It doesn't need help. It's perfect! The world's greatest artists are exactly who they are supposed to be. If doctors get to close to understanding a condition which is much needed, this could be a perfect world and Everyone would see eye to eye. Nice thought, although not feasible. God doesn't allow us all understanding. If that happens, it's over. God controls the End. Amen!

    • @albertus7516
      @albertus7516 5 років тому +2

      freethrice
      ...world without end...

    • @Xeno87
      @Xeno87 5 років тому +95

      It's even better. Remember the beginning? Salieri asked god to become his vessel, to write gods music. And he got all angry at god because that didn't happen and that "god chose Mozart" instead. Well, in this scene Salieri literally becomes what he asked for. He becomes his vessel and wrties the music.

  • @kellypickard5509
    @kellypickard5509 6 років тому +523

    I think what makes this scene so brilliant is that it's the one where they speak the most plainly with each other. The whole movie has been gossip, secrets, and two-faced speech up until this point, and in this one scene the practical need of composing music puts them in the position of speaking without masks (for the most part).

    • @danielechebarria8733
      @danielechebarria8733 4 роки тому +23

      Well said. Two men who are masters at their crafts finally just working on music together. I know it's fiction but for the one and only time, Salieri is simply trying to help create beautiful music which was his passion.

    • @maxcarren112
      @maxcarren112 4 роки тому +27

      @@danielechebarria8733 Salieri spent the whole movie despising Mozart for his genius. But if he had spent all that time just being his friend, and learning from him, while accepting his own limitations, he could have found greatness. But he let stupid worldly squabbles and "prestige" ruin him. Mozart came off like an asshole because he just didnt care what people thought of him. He was too busy.

    • @hopesonmakokha5217
      @hopesonmakokha5217 4 роки тому +4

      That's what music does, it brings us together

    • @luckyspurs
      @luckyspurs 2 роки тому +1

      I feel like that seen more encompasses their true life relationship.

    • @sulmahaney9568
      @sulmahaney9568 Рік тому

      So true so insightful that’s what transitions a movie from another piece and raises it up to artwork in it’s purest form.. little details like that is what puts it on the top 100 movies of all time

  • @funnyfarce
    @funnyfarce 10 років тому +2008

    I have watched this scene something like one million times.

  • @Isabelle-xn1xp
    @Isabelle-xn1xp 8 років тому +928

    Exceptional actors, exceptional scene, exceptional movie for an exceptional Man Mozart !

    • @dorcasmalahlela2805
      @dorcasmalahlela2805 7 років тому +26

      In the interviews, Tom Hulce said he purposely skipped bits of dialogue, to convey that a genius like Mozart would skip some details, assuming it would be crystal clear to Salieri, where it actuallty isn't. Abrahams keeps up with him, and Salieri's glee when he catches up is him only getting a peek of such intense genius.

    • @stardaggerrihannsu2363
      @stardaggerrihannsu2363 6 років тому +1

      He was not a MAN, he IS A GOD!

    • @khaledfaiz491
      @khaledfaiz491 5 років тому +3

      Tom Hulce should have won the oscar

    • @guillaumeferaud4008
      @guillaumeferaud4008 4 роки тому

      not for an exceptional man. for a Genius

    • @wallpaper2a551
      @wallpaper2a551 4 роки тому +1

      @@khaledfaiz491 Both of them should have won the Oscar!

  • @gregthebaritone
    @gregthebaritone 4 роки тому +172

    I always loved at 2:26 how Salieri somehow manages to guess all of the changes in the progression that he hasn't heard yet, including the cadence with the octave drop. 😃

    • @alphhs5260
      @alphhs5260 4 роки тому +30

      He's a genuis too

    • @Spanner249
      @Spanner249 2 роки тому +22

      That was the point of the scene. He finally understands how Mozarts composes and for these moments he was an instrument of the “voice of God.”

    • @a33795
      @a33795 Рік тому +3

      He is not just guessing.
      He already wrote the vocals, the trombones, the trumpets, which lay a musical foundation, and being a musical genius as well, he could infer the violins part as well. With a bit of cinematic dramatization.

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 5 років тому +474

    One of the most memorable moments in the movie. So brilliantly written.
    And sadly complete fiction.
    Mozart did not live to add any of the orchestrational bits that he dictates to Salieri here. No bassoons and no trombones, no trumpets and timpani.
    He did finish the vocal lines and the bass line and the counter melody in the strings when the soprano sings. That is all that was written in his manuscript. The rest was added by Süssmayr later.

    • @christinemusselman5499
      @christinemusselman5499 5 років тому +80

      There was a lot of fiction in this movie. But it did convey Mozart's genius. It's a pity that the filmmakers had to libel Salieri in order to make Mozart look great.

    • @leporello7
      @leporello7 5 років тому +10

      You are right. The manuscript lacks these parts. But perhaps the lost "Zettelchen" did that Süßmayr later got from Constanze? In any case the movie depicts only how the old lunatic Salieri (a fictional character himself) remembers this moment.

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 5 років тому +4

      thanks I kinda thought so

    • @Kris9kris
      @Kris9kris 5 років тому +30

      @@leporello7 Robert Levin says in one of his lectures that a notion like that displays a complete misunderstanding of Mozart’s working methods. Mozart didn’t need cues of sketches to complete the orchestration because to a genius like him it was so obvious that he would know 1 year, even a decade later how it should sound. Levin and a few other musicologists proposed since Schumann called the Requiem “wholly inauthentic except for a few measures” that Mozart left detailed instructions and sketches to Süssmayr that him and Constance later destroyed and, he lied deliberately about the Sanctus, Benedictus and the Agnus Dei thus somewhat legitimising his contribution to the Requiem after the infamous controversy. Mozart would not have used “trumpets and timpani” or such heavy-handed orchestration Süssmayr utilised in the Confutatis because it diverts attention from the main theme and the ostinato, hence very few modern completions actually fill in these parts. I think anyone who’s a devoted fan of this timeless masterwork would readily admit that the Lacrymosa’s continuation (after measure 8 which is supposedly by Süssmayr) is just too good to have come from Süssmayr’s pen. Süssmayr likely knew about the Amen sketch leaf too but he didn’t bother because to a second-rate composer like him, a complex choral fugue would have been too much to handle. Musicologists proposed the sketch theory simply because of the immensely varying degree of compositional quality within a given movement. And it’s not just a minuscule difference, it is humongous. Take the Sanctus, for example, it displays both a thematic unity with the Dies Irae incipit and the Hosanna fugal theme with the Ricordare. After examining all of Süssmayr’s extant works musicologists found that S. never exploited the use of thematic transformation in any of his compositions. Why would he use that now? And there is that parallel fifth problem already in measure 4, which is obviously S.’s clumsy writing! The Benedictus is completely sound and convincing in thematic material except for the basso continuo and the bridge sections? It’s so obviously from a choral sketch it’s not even funny. All is well, then the Hosanna fugue is stupidly reprised in B flat major which is completely at odds with 18th-century church music practice. The Agnus Dei’s Bass part is the Incipit of the Introitus yet displaying another case of thematic unity. After listening to this piece for the 100th time, I can (or anybody for that matter) exactly pinpoint what is Süssmayr and what is Mozart. Süssmayr said that they even worked through the movements together by singing the voice parts! There is no way the Mozart, who was a master of improvisation, didn’t hint something that wasn’t necessarily on the sheet music paper. Of course, this is all conjecture, but a better explanation already than what Süssmayr conjured up as testimony.

    • @leporello7
      @leporello7 4 роки тому +4

      @@Kris9kris Thank you very much for the detailed and very insightful comment! It sounds very convincing. I know Levin's completion, have even sung it in concert, as well as Franz Beyer's. But to be honest, none of them has satisfied me completely. You have made me want to go deeper into the matter again now.

  • @janeyrevanescence12
    @janeyrevanescence12 5 років тому +253

    This is my favorite scene because of how everything is broken down. You hear each part on its own and it doesn't sound like much, if at all...but then you hear it altogether...and you understand the true genius of Mozart.

    • @randalllayton7452
      @randalllayton7452 4 роки тому +4

      Guy could write harmonies

    • @luckyspurs
      @luckyspurs 2 роки тому +1

      Although he still sounds damn good even broken up.

    • @ZelineZed
      @ZelineZed Рік тому +1

      It doesn't sound like much? Man it's hard to impress you

  • @mrog5481
    @mrog5481 5 років тому +145

    The Requiem in D Minor is absolutely badass. So somber and so beautiful.

  • @DGdescendant22
    @DGdescendant22 5 років тому +85

    Even though Salieri wanted him dead and was going through with his plan perfectly, I think this scene was what filled him with guilt the most. He understands how much of genius Wolfgang was by seeing it first hand come out of his mouth and noticing how flawless it was, even at the end of his rope it was flawless. Death was right around the corner and Mozart knew he was about to die but still gave everything he had to finish his masterpiece. Salieri couldnt deny the brilliance, and I think he finally understood God was absent, it was just a very talented man whos life he took from everybody.

    • @minotaur55
      @minotaur55 4 роки тому

      I haven't seen the movie. Did he poison him?

    • @alexrowdyrodrigues9716
      @alexrowdyrodrigues9716 4 роки тому +12

      @@minotaur55 No Mozart overwhelmed himself trying to compose his orchestras and the requiem of which Salieri secretly requested him to compose for money since he had gone broke dressed up as a dark menacing figure to resemble Mozart's dead father which gave Mozart much grief but it seemed as though he had some sort of popular illness typhoid fever or plaque or something like that and died before he could finish it like in real life and was buried in an unmarked grave along with multiple people because he couldn't afford a proper burial

    • @Spanner249
      @Spanner249 2 роки тому +5

      I disagree. I felt that in this moment he finally got to experience what it was to be the voice of God. He finally understood how Mozart composed and in those shared moments of dictations he began to anticipate the composition as that voice moved through him.

  • @belindasmith774
    @belindasmith774 4 роки тому +142

    In the director's cut version of this film, in the special features, there's nearly an hour documentary on the making of this film. Tom Hulce, F. Murray Abraham, the director Milos Forman, and many of the actors were asked to share their memory of the making of this film. F. Murray Abraham was filming "Scarface" at the time Amadeus was being cast. As he said, the character of Salieri was the most sought-after part in the english speaking language; every actor wanted the part. But he auditioned. And he got it. He has said that on the Scarface set, people started treating him differently once word got out that he had been cast as Salieri. But what is the most interesting, is that in the scene when Abraham, as Salieri, says, "I don't understand" it's because Hulce was confusing him on purpose, and skipping lines of dialogue. His frustration is not as Saieri, but as Abraham, because he is genuinely lost. Milos, saw what Hulce was doing and being the director that he was, kept it in, because it added to the depth of the scene. As I understand it, at the time they filmed this scene, there was only Hulce, Abraham, Forman and the camerman on set during the scene. The actors wore earpieces so they could keep time to the music, which was done later. Absolute genius. This is my second favorite film of all time. When I heard that Milos Forman had died I wept like a baby. I recognize Requiem every time I hear it because of this film. And that is what film is supposed to do.

    • @dankhnw8
      @dankhnw8 4 роки тому +3

      More impressive that he didn't break the scene

    • @mikaku
      @mikaku 3 роки тому +5

      Well, now I want to know what is your first favorite film of all time.

    • @santiqueen19
      @santiqueen19 Рік тому

      It is too my second favourite movie of all time. Just behind Some like it hot. Which one is yours?

    • @FreedomFighter2112
      @FreedomFighter2112 Рік тому

      Amadeus is my Favorite Film of All-Time...what is yours?

  • @bevy814
    @bevy814 5 років тому +127

    "Do you have it?" "you go too fast" "DO you have it? " I cried at the end of this movie!

  • @mzytryck
    @mzytryck 4 роки тому +9

    This is the first and last time Salieri fully connects with Mozart. After an early life of idolising him for his gifts, and a later life of hating him for them, he finally gets to share in them.
    Salieri is the only character apart from Mozart who we see listening to music just by reading it (something the real Salieri could also apparently do,) and so is probably the only man who could hear the divine music flowing out of the dying Mozart's croaky voice.
    It's beautiful and grotesque that Mozart's would-be murderer is also the only person who could share this moment with his victim; neither Mozart's musically-illiterate wife, nor his composer father were as good as Salieri, and this gives the greatest and second-greatest composers in Vienna a level of intimacy they never have with anyone else.

  • @HeWhoHasRisen3500
    @HeWhoHasRisen3500 7 років тому +585

    "G#?"
    "Yes, of course!!"

    • @537CH
      @537CH 7 років тому +23

      Randall Flagg G#. There's no D# in the key of A harmonic minor.

    • @HeWhoHasRisen3500
      @HeWhoHasRisen3500 7 років тому +19

      Good catch!!! I didn't know it was the G# that actually was the magic note that made it an A Harmonic!! BRAVO!!!!! let me amend...

    • @HareBra1n3d
      @HareBra1n3d 6 років тому +3

      537CH Haven’t looked at the score, but maybe secondary dominance?

    • @Froboy1100
      @Froboy1100 5 років тому +9

      In any minor scale the 7th is raised to fit the harmonic need of the dominant (and leading tone) triads to collapse properly to the tonic triad or submediant triad respectively. The "minor scale" they teach you in school with b3, b6, b7 is actually purely modal and doesn't function as well as the harmonic minor does. In any classical work in a minor key, you'll find the leading tone is always raised and will ways resolve upwards to the tonic pitch.

    • @evanjazzista
      @evanjazzista 5 років тому

      @@Froboy1100, so this explains that. At last! Thank you.

  • @rickym6301
    @rickym6301 2 роки тому +12

    I first saw this scene around 10 or 11 years old with my dad. I didn’t understand a lot of this movie but this is one of the few scenes I got the premise of - that Salieri was writing the music for Mozart.
    I remember vividly being moved almost to tears when he says “let me see it” and the scene cuts to the horse carriage as the piece plays. Something clicked in me. I think I finally appriciated how brilliant, intricate, and profound music was. That cut always hits me now.

  • @froggofood2307
    @froggofood2307 10 місяців тому +2

    literally one of the best film scenes of all time

  • @ondradvori
    @ondradvori 6 років тому +11

    I am from Czech. I am very glad that Milos Forman is my compatriot. Rest in peace Mr. Director. Thank you for your life´s work.

    • @Gerwent47
      @Gerwent47 5 років тому

      w czych, znam tylko Kundera i Karel Gott

  • @AdderTude
    @AdderTude 5 років тому +55

    I love this scene for how much Mozart teaches Salieri about the way Mozart's musical signature plays, especially when he gently explains to him the relationship between the different parts. Take the early exchange when writing the instruments.
    Mozart: "Now, trumpets and timpani."
    Salieri: "No..."
    Mozart: "Trumpets in D, t-- Listen to me."
    Salieri: "No, no! I don't understand!"
    Mozart: "Listen. It goes with the harmony."
    Salieri: (understands)
    The sound mixing in this film, especially this scene, is phenomenal.

  • @jdrace12
    @jdrace12 4 роки тому +30

    One interesting about this is how frantic Mozart is to get this on paper as quickly as possible. All musicians know how important it is to record your musical idea while it's still in your head, before you forget it completely.

    • @bunnybird9342
      @bunnybird9342 2 роки тому +2

      I hate whenever I dream of nonexistent music that is very good and then right before I could write it it disappears

    • @Helix751
      @Helix751 Рік тому +1

      Or before he dies...Which he sadly did precisely while writing this Requiem... Salieri did indeed finish it.

    • @bunnybird9342
      @bunnybird9342 Рік тому

      @@Helix751 not in real life though

    • @jonahrosen6173
      @jonahrosen6173 Рік тому +1

      @@bunnybird9342 In real life Salieri didn't finish it, it was a student of his who did but he did in fact die while writing the Requiem that part is true

    • @bunnybird9342
      @bunnybird9342 Рік тому

      @@jonahrosen6173 I already knew that Salieri didn't actually complete the requiem. Although Amadeus is a great movie it isn't a reliable historical source.

  • @TheTsar1918
    @TheTsar1918 4 роки тому +5

    Jesus this scene is brilliant. To break down one movement of a legendary piece and then to have it performed at the end...chills. If Tom Hulce had won an Oscar for this film, this scene would've done it.

  • @mattb711
    @mattb711 6 років тому +11

    This movie does a fantastic job of showing how a great musician/composer can "literally" hear his music without any instruments. Countless times we are placed in their minds and hear the music, when in actuality there is no music but for what is plying inside of their minds. Incredible acting and directing.

  • @curtbarnes4294
    @curtbarnes4294 6 років тому +11

    The brilliance of this script is that Salieri is made a good enough composer to recognize genius when he hears it, and this scene puts him inside the mind of that genius if only briefly. God "mocks" him by letting him write the notes that he can fully appreciate but could have never conceived. Salieri has dared to insert himself into Mozart's life, becomes his amanuensis, but in return is forced to face his "mediocrity" all the more acutely. A psychological tragedy.

  • @Schrodinger_
    @Schrodinger_ 7 років тому +194

    In physics grad school I had a friend who was more brilliant than I could ever hope to be. This scene is what I imagine it would be like if my friend met and spoke with Richard Feynman. He could never dream of discovering what Feynman had discovered, but he would fully grasp it the moment it came out of Feynman's mouth.

    • @billboardbraggins1443
      @billboardbraggins1443 7 років тому +7

      Epoxygleu His friend is salieri, and he is the emperor. Now it is sad.

    • @shadowjuan2
      @shadowjuan2 5 років тому +3

      Schrodinger
      You don’t need to be brilliant at music to understand Mozart’s dictation. Anyone can do it with a few courses in solfegge, ear-training and music theory.

    • @mozartjpn137
      @mozartjpn137 4 роки тому

      It was Freedman Dyson, a student without Ph.D.

  • @jmk1966
    @jmk1966 3 роки тому +7

    The way this scene was written, the way the actors embodied their roles, the musical directory of this scene & also the cinematography; hands down THE BEST scene from this movie EVER!

  • @lucaainfante
    @lucaainfante 10 років тому +611

    as well as Van Gogh expressed his suffering with his paintings, as Mozart did musically. This is art.

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 7 років тому +31

      Beethoven told you what it was like to be Beethoven. Mozart told you what it was like to be human. To be music itself. Thus, I slightly disagree.

    • @ezandman6804
      @ezandman6804 7 років тому +6

      Always nice to see somebody bring van Gogh to the party... But Van Gogh was very 'weird' compared to Mozart imho wasn't he? difficult to compare the two of them.

    • @ezandman6804
      @ezandman6804 7 років тому +9

      Mozart wrote funny stuff (sometimes), Van Gogh didn't paint funny stuff, or did he? I don't know. Please tell me what is funny about 'the potato eaters'... lol

    • @patrickoneillmcfinnigan7664
      @patrickoneillmcfinnigan7664 6 років тому +10

      I though van Gogh similarly more like Beethoven than Mozart

    • @TheTheode
      @TheTheode 5 років тому +9

      Retro Workshop
      Bach was the clockwork universe
      Mozart was our vision of god
      Beethoven was the heart of passion
      Chopin was the subjective experience

  • @celticjay2306
    @celticjay2306 7 років тому +40

    This movie took me by total surprise. I fell in love with it. Just blown away. INSPIRED. I get it... Now i know what they knew... They being those who love Mozart and classical music... This movie began a wondorous journey for me. One that hasn't ended yet

  • @RedKing64
    @RedKing64 4 роки тому +5

    The strongest part of the movie and about Mozart's life its that he was buried in a common grave... One of the most gifted musicians and composers, if not the best, musical prodigy with a rare talent, not really apreciated in his time, that could even see and feel music, died in poorness, buried next to the butcher, the begger, the farmer, the thief....

    • @kebabmega6349
      @kebabmega6349 2 роки тому +2

      The begger was a poor man that suffered in life and was denied his right to life, the thief is a poor man of circumstances, that butcher feeds, the farmer makes food... And Mozart makes music. Do u seriously think making music no matter how good puts you above the people that feed you? The farmer and the butcher are way more important than mozart.

  • @sllaveq
    @sllaveq 5 років тому +1

    As a history student I had classes in latin language. I was full zero, as a speaker of slavic language I found it very difficult to understand the construction of the latin. So, I went to my final exam knowing absolutely nothing, I was sneaky, ready to cheat. Buut.. I didnt know I will have to speak.
    The night before I watched "Amadeus" and got really interested in confutatis. It seems that learning new things before going to sleep actually helps remember thr new information because I somehow knew the lyrics. And as you can guess I started reciting the confutatis.. Of course I got 3 out of 6 (2 meaning not passing), but my teacher liked me remembering this piece of art so much that he let me pass.
    Anyways, this movie is brilliant... One of the best I've watched in my life. The atmosphere, the insanity, the pure God's hand in Mozart't brilliance... Everything.

  • @stevenwatchorn9816
    @stevenwatchorn9816 7 років тому +47

    One of the great films I have seen. I saw it for the first time when I was 13, and this scene in particular changed the way I listened to music from then on. The way they broke the Confutatis down in that part, and then put it back together, was an inspired way of showing how Mozart could sort out the sounds in his head, and gave me a new appreciation of how good music can weave together (in all genres).

  • @juliusjauga3057
    @juliusjauga3057 8 років тому +306

    1:48 Me When Teacher Tries To Explain Something...
    And you dont understand :^)

    • @dmmchugh3714
      @dmmchugh3714 5 років тому +4

      Also Salieri is trying to understand the zeitgeist of Mozart 's genius.

  • @Vort317545
    @Vort317545 Рік тому +2

    Most people fail the realize how much of a musical genius Mozart was. Many of his original sheets of music still survive to this day. They are first drafts with very very few corrections. So much so he didn't need any more drafts or revisions. Mozart was six when he wrote his first full Opera!

  • @Rybr2
    @Rybr2 10 років тому +122

    Amazing! Showing how Genius feels and translate the music from his mind... amazing

  • @dorcasmalahlela2805
    @dorcasmalahlela2805 7 років тому +667

    It makes me sad how Mozart can barely sing the "Voca me" parts, as though he knows he's going to die, and is begging acceptance into the afterlife.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 6 років тому +31

      Oh, he doesn't die. The guy appears in the making of Amadeus after many years, and he is just fine :)

    • @stevecarpenter7735
      @stevecarpenter7735 5 років тому +3

      nicely put

    • @phillipleblanc7823
      @phillipleblanc7823 5 років тому

      @@stevecarpenter7735 yeah if you understand it.

    • @WillCWilson
      @WillCWilson 4 роки тому +2

      @@u.v.s.5583 He was talking about the CHARACTER, not the actor.

    • @lintangp3826
      @lintangp3826 4 роки тому +6

      @@WillCWilson r/woooosh

  • @MOMOTAROtheHERO
    @MOMOTAROtheHERO 8 років тому +632

    Confutatis maledictis,
    flammis acribus addictis,
    voca me cum benedictus.
    Oro supplex et acclinis,
cor contritum quasi cinis,
gere curam mei finis.
    When the accused are confounded,
    and doomed to flames of woe,
    call me among the blessed.
    I kneel with submissive heart,
my contrition is like ashes,
help me in my final condition.

    • @marcosPRATA918
      @marcosPRATA918 5 років тому +2

      O trecho irônicamente serve à maldita confusão Mozart-Salieri, fomentada por um folhetim de época, e aumentada pelo interesse público em fofocas, e ampliada ainda mais por obras baseadas em tais folhetins. Salieri foi um professor de muitos famosos da época, entre eles Beethoven.

    • @nancyayers6355
      @nancyayers6355 5 років тому +24

      Beautiful ... Gorgeous. Classical music and classical Latin are a marriage made in heaven. Thanks for the translation of the Latin, by the way!

    • @leonardopistolato9775
      @leonardopistolato9775 4 роки тому +7

      Although the translation into English is not precise nor as powerful as the original, it sure conveys the general sense of what Mozart meant.

    • @faku4009
      @faku4009 4 роки тому +4

      Nancy Ayers You realize most music is composed in Ecclesiastical Latin and not in Classical Latin, the pronunciation differs and the structure is simplified to a certain degree and it adopts some Italian elements.

    • @thecoolman9617
      @thecoolman9617 4 роки тому +2

      Cum benedictis*

  • @andreakuropmarques654
    @andreakuropmarques654 4 роки тому +3

    A cena desse filme me impressiona por diversas razões, uma delas é como o ator consegue transmitir conhecimento musical e impulsionar o que quer compôr! Parabéns ao grande trabalho do Diretor

  • @Alfazri57
    @Alfazri57 4 роки тому +12

    Why am I so obsessed with this scene?
    Salieri - "I don't understand ,not to fast!!"
    Yeah, me to Salieri.

  • @archerpiperii2690
    @archerpiperii2690 5 років тому +13

    A brilliant scene in a movie filled with brilliant scenes. It is no wonder this movie won best picture.
    Peace.

  • @blackiemittens
    @blackiemittens 4 роки тому +3

    The banquet of great story, exceptional script, phenomenal acting, and immortal music. We’ve been starving for this level ever since! 👏🏻

  • @johnsy4306
    @johnsy4306 7 років тому +29

    I was able to sing this with my son when he was in high school for his school's community choir. What a thrill it was. We were both basses.

  • @calvinchandra5573
    @calvinchandra5573 4 роки тому +4

    I sang the whole Requiem with a choir back in 2016. I was in the bass section. Had I watched this movie before it, I would have been able to appreciate the songs more. Brilliant.

  • @DUFMAN123
    @DUFMAN123 Рік тому +2

    I just watched the film for the first time and while I can't say I really loved it overly much, this scene was an absolutely spellbinding and masterful culmination.

  • @jeremyphelps5140
    @jeremyphelps5140 10 років тому +267

    Amazing. I actually like the version that they played in the movie. It's a bit faster than the score usually plays but I think it adds more fire to it :) I loved this scene because, though it's fictional, it shows the genius of Mozart. I just wish he would have been able to finish it, though süssmayr did a good job IMO.

    • @hertzair1186
      @hertzair1186 5 років тому +2

      Jeremy Phelps : Sussmayer was an unsung hero

  • @MrYougotcaught
    @MrYougotcaught 6 років тому +7

    I was a kid watching this movie. This part of it made understand the whole concept and complexity of Classical Baroque

  • @frankposada8590
    @frankposada8590 5 років тому +4

    Siempre, las luces que brillan mas que las demás, duran la mitad del tiempo; pero el recuerdo de su belleza es inmortal. Gracias Mozart, donde quiera que estés

  • @kevnar
    @kevnar 4 роки тому +31

    Tom Hulce doesn't get enough credit for reciting the music in this scene exactly on key.

  • @houndmother740
    @houndmother740 7 років тому +11

    It's been years since I sang in a choir, but always, Mozart. Always. My favorite.

  • @corner559
    @corner559 9 років тому +294

    This is an amazing scene but even more powerful when you know what the words mean.

    • @FairyFellersMasterStroke
      @FairyFellersMasterStroke 7 років тому +60

      Corn Fed And even more powerful when you were an alto at the music university, and had to sing the whole Requiem for an exam.

    • @EdwardAivazovsky
      @EdwardAivazovsky 7 років тому +89

      Rodney Lamonge, Mozart's Requiem-Confutatis,
      Confutatis Maledictis (when the accused are confounded) - Flammis Acribus Addictis (and doomed to flames of woe) - Voca Me (call me) - Voca Me Cum Benedictis (call me among the blessed) - Confutatis Maledictis (when the accused are confounded) - Flammis Acribus Addictis (and doomed to flames of woe) - Voca Me Cum Benedictis (call me among the blessed) - Voca Me (call me) - Voca Me Cum Benedictis (call me among the blessed) - Oro Supplex Et Acclinis (bowed down in supplication i beg you) - Cor Contritum Quasi Cinis (my heart as though ground to ashes) - Gere Curam (help me) - Gere Curam Mei Finis (help me in my last hour)

    • @synthfan
      @synthfan 6 років тому

      Edward Aivazovsky that pretty right on in regards the lyrics being translsated. Sometime I need to print out next my living room because it’ amazing that doc

    • @anjpoteat
      @anjpoteat 5 років тому

      Exactly! Makes perfect sense to a musician. ❤🎵

    • @nuria6358
      @nuria6358 4 роки тому

      @@EdwardAivazovsky thanks!

  • @stevebranch7817
    @stevebranch7817 4 роки тому +3

    Mozart's brain worked faster than anyone could write or even follow. This scene eloquently shows something that is beyond genius. Way way beyond genius. It's tortured brilliance. Some things are just beyond measurement.

  • @BenjaminSteber
    @BenjaminSteber 7 років тому +10

    This is such an outstanding scene because the way it is written, the way it is performed even how it has been shot and edited demonstrates the commanding genius of Mozart and how Salieri struggles to keep up with the dictation of work that is so far out of his league. Equus proved that Peter Shaffer was the master at writing hate-boners between two men at odds with one another and Amadeus is obviously no exception. This scene in particular, some of it improvised, capitalizes on the hard script to reveal the essence of these two men, even as all the dialogue is consistent entirely of music theory jargon. The orchestration, however reveals the fiery emotions of the two men and makes the jargon have meaning. The layering of the soundtrack is a stroke of brilliance in editing and as we, the audience, and Salieri watch as a masterpiece is being composed part by part we vicariously experience what Salieri has felt for the entire film: Mozart's genius, and how far beyond mediocrity he was.

  • @cvader7
    @cvader7 7 років тому +142

    I have seen this movie nearly sixty times. My favorite movie. No doubt

    • @theguywhoisaustralian1465
      @theguywhoisaustralian1465 6 років тому

      Cool, I think it's fantastic and one of the greatest of all time. I just don't think it has a lot of rewatchability

    • @arthurlecomte8950
      @arthurlecomte8950 5 років тому +1

      Yes, absolutely. My father showed me this movie when I was 10 and I liked it. But when I grew up I understood more and more about this film. I am now a history and musicology student, so it has become my favorite too

    • @therealconniefrancis
      @therealconniefrancis 5 років тому +1

      Milos Forman ❤😢

    • @phillipleblanc7823
      @phillipleblanc7823 5 років тому

      That's nuthin'. I've seen it nearly 70 times.

    • @bellmeisterful
      @bellmeisterful 4 роки тому

      @@phillipleblanc7823 Ive got you both beat. I just eclipsed 100 this morning after a breakfast of sausages and pancakes with elderberry syrup.

  • @bmxultra2333
    @bmxultra2333 4 роки тому +7

    Even as he lay dying of renal failure, he continued to compose some of the most brilliant music the world has ever known.

  • @justind7211
    @justind7211 4 роки тому +6

    This entire movie is a masterpiece, easily the best film I've ever seen.

  • @Amy-vq5by
    @Amy-vq5by 4 роки тому +4

    Two of the best actors I’ve ever seen.

  • @willkirkoff1333
    @willkirkoff1333 6 років тому +2

    I fell in love with Mozart when i was 11 years old I was completely obsessed with his genius and the time period he lived in. What i would give to live in his time...

    • @willkirkoff1333
      @willkirkoff1333 6 років тому

      Jack Xiao Jack Xiao that would be the case if I had the limited knowledge they had but I don't so I would definately live a pretty long life. I didn't say be born in that time but live there as I am now.

  • @clivedytor2069
    @clivedytor2069 2 роки тому +2

    Mozart was simply a genius…not possible to analyse, just adore his sublime gift.

  • @sergiobollana
    @sergiobollana Рік тому +1

    A "Masterpiece" in this case is not enough. What they did is bring Mozart to all generations after this movie. Well deserved Oscars for both and for the movie. I saw F. Murray Abrahams get surprised these past few days when he saw people cheering for him in an awards ceremony, and it seemed a little sad to me. He shouldn't be surprised. He played one of the most iconic parts in any movie from the last 50 years. Well deserved praise for the rest of his life.

  • @rontiemens2553
    @rontiemens2553 5 років тому +13

    "No...no! Now for the REAL fire..." - great line

  • @tatersrose
    @tatersrose 5 років тому +5

    I don't think I'll ever tire of this scene.

  • @safespacebear
    @safespacebear 5 років тому +3

    I would love to know a moment as intimate as these two men crafting a song together. It's beautiful

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 4 роки тому

      Watch some jam sessions.

  • @jesuseduardoramirezrodrigu201
    @jesuseduardoramirezrodrigu201 7 років тому +1

    Poderosa e imponente pieza, escucharla es un erizamiento de piel seguro.

  • @Innuband
    @Innuband 8 років тому +15

    Memorable scene and crazily difficult to shoot! Thanks for posting!

  • @patshomeandgarden3304
    @patshomeandgarden3304 4 роки тому

    One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies. Thanks!

  • @slavprince4603
    @slavprince4603 4 роки тому +1

    I remember watching this when I was like 8... such a masterpiece, made a life long impression on me. Best part of the movie.

  • @luckyspurs
    @luckyspurs 2 роки тому +2

    You can feel the energy Salieri's getting from realising how serious Mozart is about his actual music.
    For all the fooling around.

  • @chrisstultz6335
    @chrisstultz6335 5 років тому

    OMG I have to watch this movie again... it’s been years. I have forgotten how glorious it is and how Mozart was one of the most gifted humans ever!!!

  • @angelhuezorocks
    @angelhuezorocks 4 роки тому +3

    I’ve had moments like this with other musicians. They are awesome.

  • @eduardosantos5078
    @eduardosantos5078 4 роки тому

    JÁ ASSISTI ESSA CENA MIL VEZES....ELA É BRILHANTE...UM GÊNIO COMPONDO UMA OBRA DE ARTE.

  • @ryans7570
    @ryans7570 Рік тому

    This scene perfectly demonstrates the significance of the gap between the two. Salieri is struggling to keep up with Mozart as he frantically writes down the composition all while he asks him question after question to try and understand. Salieri’s inability to see the best progress for the piece as Mozart does frustrates him but he can’t help but be in awe as it finally begins to make sense. There is also two big moments in this scene that really makes Mozart’s genius stand out that I think goes unnoticed. The first being at 2:10 when Salieri states “that’s all”. This displays how his mind works as a composer, he gets a point where the piece is good but never thinks to push the envelope to enhance it even further. This is ultimately why he was never an innovator and could never reach the artistic levels of the peer he so despised. The second being Mozart’s constant ask for affirmation that Salieri is in fact following as he ask “do you have it?” several times. Mozart was the only one who could see a vision of true musical masterclass and he know it…. He knew Salieri could never see it in his own

  • @radinsyah1574
    @radinsyah1574 5 років тому +1

    This is a wonderful scene of a great composer breaking down his composition. I don’t think there are scenes like this one in any other movie.

  • @snaganaroda2291
    @snaganaroda2291 4 роки тому +4

    the saddest and most sublime scene in the film

  • @ThePatriotsway
    @ThePatriotsway 7 років тому +5

    One of my best all time movies!

  • @alexconaghan3486
    @alexconaghan3486 4 роки тому +2

    The sit there and get schooled by the Master yet contriving to hasten his death through this Machiavellian ploy to have Mozart finish this composition haunted by the spirit of his dead father is both horrific and ironic. It's my favorite scene.

  • @teeds88
    @teeds88 7 років тому +81

    i've seen this (the whole movie actually) with a live orchestra and choir. now, THAT was epic, let me tell you! not that this scene would need any more epicness ...

    • @wrenegade6283
      @wrenegade6283 6 років тому +7

      LIVE orchestra!? Dude, where!?

    • @paulinekivach2216
      @paulinekivach2216 5 років тому +3

      Teed...the Cleveland Orchestra will be doing this in February 2020 and as I am watching this I am getting.goosebumps just thinking about how the composer himself will be telling my orchestra, the Cleveland Orchestra, what to play. Is it really that epic? I know it will be but I want to know I am not the only person who thinks that too

  • @sjkdec18
    @sjkdec18 7 років тому +4

    One of my favorite scenes in all of movie history

  • @TheErikRamone
    @TheErikRamone 6 років тому +4

    One of the best movies, Epic actors, Epic history, thanks Amadeus

  • @jonathanhos6031
    @jonathanhos6031 4 роки тому

    I watched this wonderful film when I was a university student in Hong Kong Academy for Performance Arts . Love it very very much !!!

  • @nilswestman4013
    @nilswestman4013 4 роки тому +2

    This piece of music makes me get goosebumps. It's so profoundly deep and emotional.

  • @doyoulikedags3534
    @doyoulikedags3534 7 років тому +7

    What's even more great is that the interaction between Hulce and Abraham was almost entirely improvised on spot...

    • @mariekano9730
      @mariekano9730 5 років тому

      Get out no freaking way!!

    • @rockroll6332
      @rockroll6332 4 роки тому +1

      @@mariekano9730
      ....Tom Hulce explains it in the "making of"...which in itself is a wonderful appendix to the movie.👍🏻
      👋🇩🇪

  • @lenthisgoldstein9553
    @lenthisgoldstein9553 4 роки тому +1

    This is the BEST scene in the film well worth waiting for.

  • @jmehawk1988
    @jmehawk1988 5 років тому

    True genius that few if any could comprehend. Writing in the language of the universe.....music. Brilliant.

  • @LeGsLoVeR1000
    @LeGsLoVeR1000 7 років тому +40

    I liked a lot about the way salier character performance. no envy, only the way worship about music

  • @JASalam
    @JASalam 4 роки тому

    Es una Pieza hermosisima... Siento que tiene un contraste entre la urgencia del momento y los rostros angelicales contenidos en esa atmósfera aparte tan humana, dentro de la sublimación de lo terrible, en esa paz a la que se dirige el cuerpo.

  • @mauroantunes6662
    @mauroantunes6662 6 років тому

    Estupendo! Escena inolvidable... Felicitaciones... Saludos desde Brasil!

  • @daviddegiorgio1399
    @daviddegiorgio1399 6 років тому +2

    A truly outstanding scene in cinema history!

  • @luckyspurs
    @luckyspurs 2 роки тому +3

    I like how Salieri can write Mozart's compositions without error.
    He can interpret Mozart's work perfectly, he just can't create it fully formed.

  • @hubertmeens5326
    @hubertmeens5326 7 років тому +1

    formidable moment du film, ou Mozart , à l'agonie, se fait aider par Salieri pour terminer son Requiem. Extraordinaire !.....

  • @neshkavirdure8289
    @neshkavirdure8289 7 років тому +39

    I Do Not Understand ANY of the Musical Terms, But LOVE how the Music Sounds😊😊😊

    • @desoliver9712
      @desoliver9712 4 роки тому +2

      Well, as a composer I do understand all of the terms, and I can tell you that you're not really missing much, and there is a bit of the conversation that doesn't really sense from a technical standpoint. However, I'm sure you got the most important parts of this exchange-that's what matters. :)

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 4 роки тому +2

      - Trombones.
      - I don't understand.
      - Those long brass implements that get pushed back and forth.
      - Yes, I have it. Trombones what?
      - Trombones with the tenors.
      - Do what? Make love?
      - No, they play.
      - Really? Amazing. What do they play?
      - The same melody.
      - I don't understand.
      - (dies)

    • @sandsalamand3763
      @sandsalamand3763 4 роки тому

      @@u.v.s.5583 As far as understood it, Salieri knew what Mozart wanted him to write, but he couldn't understand how it would sound good until it was sung out loud. That said, as a skilled composer, he should have been able to hear it playing in his head without Mozart's assistance.

  • @amirsanjaricomposer
    @amirsanjaricomposer 4 роки тому +1

    Best use of music in a scene

  • @Meatwaggon
    @Meatwaggon 7 років тому +5

    Scenes like this are why Amadeus is my favorite movie of all time, and I'm usually a sci fi, action, and fantasy movie type.

  • @TarkovskyTarr
    @TarkovskyTarr 9 років тому +32

    Esta escena es de las mejores escenas de la historia del cine. Ahí lo dejo.

  • @lothariobazaroff3333
    @lothariobazaroff3333 7 років тому +37

    "Lacrimosa" was my favourite part of Mozart's "Requiem". It changed when I watched this film and this particular scene. From then on, I prefer "Confutatis [maledictis, flammis acribus addictis]".

    • @comicbutserious263
      @comicbutserious263 6 років тому +3

      Lothario Bazaroff it s funny cause the lacrimosa is supposed to be the part mozart actually left the most uncomplete and therefore the one that needed the most to be completed by his students (from what i remember)

    • @runokati3668
      @runokati3668 4 роки тому

      You should listen "Dies Irea" From Mozart's Requiem . It is a masterpiece too

  • @DelacruzAman
    @DelacruzAman 5 років тому

    Its like a studio engineer helping a friend lay track after track and bit by bit hes seeing how FIRE the recording is.

  • @ur-l4328
    @ur-l4328 2 роки тому +1

    My one of favorite scenes in this film. Very touching. Can't stay without tears. Love Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart!

  • @WoolStory
    @WoolStory 7 років тому

    Fantastično! Svaki put iznova oduzima dah!

  • @TheSMPStudios
    @TheSMPStudios 5 років тому +1

    I still get goosebumps watching this!! Love Motzart’s Requiem!

  • @abelstrd
    @abelstrd 5 років тому +29

    I can't imagine having a mind like this.

    • @fogonpr
      @fogonpr 5 років тому +1

      Study music and you'll have it.

    • @a.t.v3519
      @a.t.v3519 4 роки тому +10

      El Fogon Del Buen Gusto Not quite

  • @dr.christopherdiaz4473
    @dr.christopherdiaz4473 4 роки тому +1

    Eternally grateful to Professor Tam for making us sing this.

  • @Troels_T_Kjoeller
    @Troels_T_Kjoeller Рік тому

    I’ve just come home from watching Amadeus as a play at The Royal Danish Theatre. This scene wasn’t in it, but it was a moving performance. I had to look this up as I’m winding down.

  • @brandonchristopher9657
    @brandonchristopher9657 5 років тому +4

    Wish they'd make movies like this again.

    • @GormSim
      @GormSim 5 років тому +1

      Brandon Christopher Hollywood phoning in like: “What’s that?! The people want us to remake ‘Amadeus’?! Get to it!!”

  • @chakib4391
    @chakib4391 2 роки тому

    This IS the first Movie when there are two major actors and the both deserved an Oscar