Electric Unicycle Mobility - Past, Present & Future w/ Hsiang Lin // EVlution Ep 05 | evX
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Local NYC electric unicycle rider Hsiang Lin drops by the podcast studios to discuss his version of electric unicycle history- past, present & future. The guys talk about his progression of wheels, tech, how EUCs impact society and what the future may hold. He's known on his channel for wheel reviews, tech reviews and a love for riding all over NYC. As an architect, he sees life on these devices through a unique lens.
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- About The EVlution podcast: From electric cars to electric longboards to electric unicycles, Mickey Micklos is an EV youtuber on top of his game. Best known for his channel "EVX", he creates some of the most stunning cinematic content in the EV scene. But he's now putting down the cameras and picking up the mic to talk about all types of electric vehicles. Everything from EV trends, EV news, and of course, talking to EV drivers & enthusiasts.
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Thanks for going into detail on the patents, the technology, the history. I've been surprised how limited the info is on the eVolution of the EUC models, brands, etc. This show (when we get video again 😆) is the Joe Rogan Podcast of the EUC community (Before JRE sold out to Spotify)
Wow wow! High praise. Thanks fir the kind words. Glad you’re diggin the content.
Thanks for sharing. Keep them coming.
Thanks for listening!
One of the best podcasts I've heard in quite a while! Both you guys are great personalities with a deep passion and insight into EUCs and their culture, hence the high enjoyment factor in listening to this lengthy discussion. Who actually needs video when you have conversation like this? Thanks for a very enjoyable and informative 2 hours. 😁👍
Good Interview EVX.Had to assemble a drawer and this was much better than music
Inside of the mind of Hsiang. He is one of the EUC communities gems. The education provided made me appreciate the EUC even more. I had no idea of the finer details that gave birth to what I know and love. A EUC archivable edition must have that will be referenced for the next generations to come.
All hail EVX and Hsiang!
Another Legend makes an appearance!
True story!
What a fantastic session...Thanks so much and congratulations to both of you .You two guys just nailed it this time: Complete 360° perspective on our beloved world of EUC's, touching all the aspects, technical,historical, expectations, troubleshooting, regulations..just about everything at least surfacing all the subjects to be aware of.No need to point out that this could have led to a much,much longer conversation but your chemistry with Hsiang managed to sum it up superbly in and amusing way.I love this guy,too...! We're definitely catching this wave and you guys are seriously helping.
Good interview! Love that fur seat!
Ha! Yeah John Angel loved all my fur too.
Definitely a interesting podcast. My favourite so far.
Yes a wider roughly 1800 wh kingsong s18 with a front roll cage that is 100v is what we want! Love the podcast's I'm watching em all! Appreciate that shout out!
In terms of general podcasting, this was an amazing podcast. Not just for an EUC podcast or in likeness of other popular podcasts. This episode held its own amongst all podcasts in general. Amazing job Mickey, Hsiang was a wealth of information for the EUC subculture. Instant sub, will go back to the previous episode ✌🏼
Just came across euc's about 3 days ago and I feel blessed to listen this one podcast and feel like I know everything going on in the industry and what pathway to take to get into "gliding"....
Yo you need some new merch 😉
Coming soon. 🥳🥳
Yes.
really nicepodcast again Mickey despite the video was not working👌🏻. i think Segway were selling there product 5000$ was enough to get the people from not buying. and give the room for ninebot euc market to grow up at an appealing below 1000$. i am glad it create other company along the way so be ended up with safirr and better product still not
perfect!
Really enjoyed the interview Micky. V interesting point re. benefits of slower (lighter? more portable?) devices and how they can easily interact with other pedestrians. 😎👍🙏
This pod really resonated with me because I was an original Segway V1 early adopter, then went to V2, Mini-Pro and now EUC for a couple of years. Really enjoyed revisiting the history and rationale behind Segway's ultimate demise. Great info - thanks a lot!
Oh, and I think that "the future" of EUC's may be the addition of lateral balancing to radically shorten the learning curve. Just one schmucks opinion. Cheers guys!
Yah man, thanks for listening. I heard Kingsong is working on this. In fact i know they figured it out due to how many hints they are dropping. Seems they are going for a very beginner market where inmotion is now after the experienced riders. Fun times to be alive!
@@evXNYC I think you're quite right in that it'd be a beginner wheel. Full balancing would likely open rental markets too if the learning curve were short enough - and that could be a game changer. Again - Mickey that was one of the best EUC pods I've heard - it really covers the history of the sport and should be listened to by anyone interested in it. It's great hearing an intelligent conversation about this stuff. Hell, about anything these days... Two thumbs up.
Love this talk with you guys, I learned a lot about the EUC universe, Hsieng is a very nice guy, thanks for the podcast!
As Hsiang mentions, everyone in the company needs to integrate, from the designer to the assembler.
Would be good if China adopted the Japanese manufacturing philosophy of "Kaizen", the belief that continuous, incremental improvement adds up to substantial change over time.
Chris would be a great guest to have on one day, thanks.
The Chinese are not overly fond of the Japanese for historical reasons. The west have imported japanese production philosophies ("Lean" the Toyota idea) and turned it into a religion. tis a laff really. The cost of Japanese efficiency is: No Freedom, lotsa suicides and now health workers in the west are compared with Japanese assembley workers, how sick is that? If you treat the workers with respect then you might get better products? Communists respects nobody.
@@FinnBjerke Private prisons in the USA are run for profit, charging the US government/taxpayer to provide the service. Prisoners work to produce goods such as furniture, paints, military hardware etc. Prisoner wages can range from $0.23 to $1.15 per hour.
The three strikes policy means mandatory imprisonment of 25 years to life, regardless of the nature of the third crime.
Kevin Weber stole four chocolate chip cookies in his third crime, and was sentenced to 26 years jail.
Young black males are disproportionately jailed in high numbers.
A cynic may view there is an incentive to jail people and profit from their cheap labour.
Technically not slave labour as they receive a minute wage.
Didn’t realise this was released as a podcast too - just subbed. Easier to consume in audio form for me, so thanks for that. Hsiang is awesome BTW 😎
Thank you for sharing. Interesting conversation Mickey and Hsiang!
You two make a good team and have excellent rapport together. More teamups.
Really enjoyed and appreciated the two of you on this podcast. Cheers mate👍🏾
Part of the Veterans appeal, much like the ninebot z10. Is Design, it looks rugged manly, not like a toy all plastic appearance. Another thing that can't be under sold, Is that rugged tire. So vastly different with its huge knobbed appearance really has a striking presence as a unit, vs plastic smooth tire gotways.
Excellent podcast. A real education. Thanks gents, looking forward to more of these. 👍
Great discussion, really appreciate you both for doing it. A few rapid fire points. Audio is always more important than video (your audio was very nice and clean). In fact, video distracts from great conversations, (obviously you can do both in one recording). I'm sure you know about the brick wall room echo, not really an issue, didn't bother me and I listened on two different sets of speakers (one being a pro set) to judge what I thought of it, and in fact may have given a bit of depth to the conversation. If it bothers you or your listeners, you can treat the space. There are tons of videos on this for ideas.
On the discussion itself there was lots of stuff I could opine on but I wanted to limit to one for the moment. I'm not a EUC enthusiast on the level of you two but it is not casual for me either. I use my wheels (have three now) for commuting and work. The wheel has radically altered my transportation and work flow as a transportation industry professional (used to be an audio tech hence the comments on that). My opinion is that anyone who needs to transport themselves a lot in a few mile radius of work or home is going to find a wheel a life changing machine.
A EUC is far more portable than any other form of transportation with the exception of a kick (non EV) scooter and far more powerful than that kind of scooter. I've already gotten at least a dozen people at work and home intrigued enough by the wheel to ask me about it which I enjoy talking about. And of course plenty of strangers to. As long as we are all great ambassadors I think the future is the wheel but I'm very conscious of people who will get upset and complain resulting in very unwanted legislation. This is why I've always made a point to warn NYC riders about this when they are pushing far past the limits in traffic, you know who you are... I slow down drastically around pedestrians, acknowledge their presence and thank them for moving over, etc etc.
Okay thanks again!
Yea that's kinda the thing. The device is awesome, but the person on it decides how other people think of it. Me on my V8 , i always slow down a bit for other people and stuff like that.
At least I used to, 2 years ago the police stopped me, and that has been the end of my awesome life. German rules are just way worse in this regard
@@lefotografion Sadly Germany is going through quite a bad period (in my view) for authoritarianism. That said your experience is why I always make a point to bang the drum about being a good will ambassador around others. The wheel is new and potentially very threatening to others because we can and frequently do operate on side walks. It also won't help if we operate on streets in ways that upset automotive drivers. This is one of the reasons I advocate for and wear high visibility gear.
@@kmg501 the police actually apologized to me for stopping me, they said the love this kind of thing. But they are forced to stop me, because if they don't, and there is an accident, the state can charge them for not stopping me.
21:32 nice analogy 😂😂😂
"Don't lie to me. What do your parents call you when you were first born?"
Great question to start off the conversation. LOL
Bahaha! Hsiang’s my boy. He always avoids this question. Haha
I just ordered the EXN, with the honeycomb pedals, i cant wait for some nice weather. nice podcast!
I like the way Hsiang speak intelligently well! Well spoken and very politically correct as well.
This podcast episode was bad ass!! Awesome discussion ....and no worries here about the lack of audio. I think most people are cool with listening while doing mundane tasks or even riding....I know I do
See that’s what i thought. But so many people whined when i first started and demanded i shoot video too lol
Higher volts just means you can use lower gauge wires. It's not a measure of power.
EVX needs to go find Kuji in Yunaan and do an interview while riding around Shangrila.
I’ve asked. He wants nothing to do with the American EV community.
@@evXNYC wonder why.....
@@Deuce_Allan I think he has his own ideas of what he is doing. The fact he makes videos in english and on youtube means he is interested in the global PEV markets.
I have both the FM OneWheel Pint and an Inmotion V8F, assuming both are limited in speed to 15mph, the V8F is really much safer. Getting off if something goes wrong at slow speeds is much more intuitive on the V8F. Speed makes the EUC unsafe without serious gear.
The V8F can hit 21.7mph. But it’s probably the best beginner wheel. Thanks for listening.
@@evXNYC My point was that the riding stance of the EUC if coupled with slower speeds is, in IMHO, inherently safe. You can just step off. Also, I have been enjoying your podcast. Keep up the good work. & PS, my V8F will not do 22 mph with me on it, I've limited it to 16mph in the app.
Ah yea. Def easier to run it off than a sideways stance. I skated for year’s and every fall suuuuuucks.
I get the impression this conversation could be endless - perhaps... just continuing a podcast with you two? Even just two or three times a year moving forward
edit: this discussion is orders of magnitude more interesting than the average EUC discussion
edit: the floating noodle deliver scene is from Fifth Element, not Blade Runner
it sure is, but didnt have the heart to correct him. He was so happy lol.
@@evXNYC
Yet you want him to say Adan Adamn Adamned name correctly. Adam and Eve.👌
More please! Thank you so much for your efforts to put this, and the other content you create, out here for us. Good times. Good pick on guest again. Very interesting chatter
I really don't think my NineBot One E+ is not safe because it is more than 3 years old. Slow, yes, range OK not a lot, but it is as safe as anything, probably partly for those very reasons.
Clever relevant conversation from 2 intelligent guys: Are you sure you are from New York?
Were you really born in New Jersey? Or Sweden?
There is a EUC firm in Korea btw......
It's easy, power equals tension in Volt multiplied with the current in Ampère so P=U X I
To have te same amount of power but with less current ( thus smaller section of wires can be used) the Voltage need to be raised.
This is basic formula for direct current. For alternating current it's similar but the formula is getting more complicated and not needed for the explanation 😁
I am not green (don't agree) with Hsiang statement that the first wheel will determine your riding style for every wheel.
Because you have to relearn every wheel. Some wheels will not work with a specific stands. So either the rider change or the rider chooses a different wheel. And of course if needed the wheel can be modified.
Interesting talk. On the whole interacting with people thing.
I still struggle with having changex to full helmet from open bike helmet even though it is convertible. Open helmet just seems to make people comfortable and less intimidated.
Going fast down the road you need to protect your chin of course and I do keep wondering if that helmet with a chin bar Sean wears might be enough.
If you look at Chooch videos, I can't help thinking if he didn't have quite so heavy face gear he would get less aggro.
You can purchase a modular helmet with one click you can open the front part
@@claudiablasi9480 Seen these. But the ones I've seen are full motorcycle helmets. A bit too much enclosure when down and too heavy. I like the mtb style which is still relatively open.
@@ZuberB4 look at the Nolan N70
Thanks I really enjoyed the podcast with Sean! A weee bit many interruptions of Sean but otherwise I felt captivated the whole time and not having video wasn't really a huge bother for me.
Seriously someone needs to get Elon Musk on an euc I bet if he learned he would for sure make one and if I could see anyone pulling it off, it would be him. Maybe integrate some sort of in car charging system so you could take it along. Pop it in the trunk where a spare tire would otherwise be or something.
Also I can't help but wonder whether euc's will go the route of esk8 's with diy/open-source builds becoming the most popular. With diy/open source seems to me you could more easily have euc's that have parts from all over rather then primarily from China.
Also be sick if you could get Kuji on via webcam or something.
I’ve asked. He wants nothing to do with the American EV community.
@@evXNYC dang.....
bought a used 16x and ready to move onto a better EUC but with better production quality. Seems like the only viable quality EUC at the moment is a sherman, but I don't want a sherman. and it needs to be 100v too
Stay tuned as 2021 has some exciting wheels coming that might be right up your alley!! Can’t say anymore but hold off a bit longer.
I hear that load and clear Mr EVX, still enjoying my Z10 but looking forward to spring 2021 when maybe an S18-R or V11-F
hit the market. Then I'll up grade 👌🏾
The Fifth Element
Yep, I am green, that wasn't Blade Runner. Ruby Roth rules.
Valerian is a great spiritual successor to The Fifth Element.
Would the assemblers of Chinese unicycles be paid less than any other Chinese factory worker? Like the ones that make your iPhone or the networking hardware that makes watching this youtube video possible? Many of them come from poor, rural towns and consider themselves lucky to have obtained relatively high-paying jobs in the city. By US standards, the working conditions can be dismal, but if they were assembled in the US or another country with a similar standard of living, they would cost a lot more. I've worked in Chinese and Malaysian factories and know first hand what the conditions are like.
Keep in mind that the CEO of Segway died when he accidentally drove his Segway off a cliff!
oh damn. shouldn't be laughing but that's just ridiculous.
Epic podcast but you guys scared me a bit..... Will the result of china's actions in regards to disregard for limiters and such, is it possible that we see restrictions on imports soon similar to cars? It may be possible based off the rapid increase in popularity and tech growth unregulated so fast!? Just food for thought. I'm waiting on the Sherman suspension wheel just for durability in there design? Or should I just get an Ex and start destruction proofing it lol
Are bicycles safe. No. Yor are going to crash at some point in time.
Is skiing safe? You are going to fall at some point.
Nice podcast
If the Chinese communists aren't going to respect individual intellectual property rights....neither am I...
This guy is little bit wierd :) but funny..... 🤓
Veteran cant climb hills
It’s not designed to...
@@evXNYC its a chill long distance euc. Paying that kinda price should be a machine that can do long distance, cruising, comfortable, climbing hills, off roading etc i think. But for a first wheel ever made by them its pretty awesome. Hopefully the next wheel they can make it lighter.
Well, It can climb a hill, not a 45 degree hill, but hills are unique experience. I take mine up 10-15° slopes all the time. It’s fine.
@@evXNYC yes it can but not Marty's hill test 😂
@@andyl2991 his hill test is bullshit lol. Ride any wheel that slow and it’ll struggle on a hill. Also if any normal human was riding a hill and it didnt sound right, they would just walk it. That hill proves zero.