She says "I'm not the best video cameraperson, sorry!" .... And proceeds to film basically a masterpiece of filmmaking as she puts the camera on exactly what the audience wants to see for the entirety of the video. Kudos to her!
@ GripHisKnob - Masterpiece? Huh? She shakes the camera constantly My video is a masterpiece compared to this. Looks like all of them are Jerry's Kids..
So it is clear, Greg and I were the ones who did first aid until EMTs showed. Greg was in first wave of Marines in Afghanistan and I was a ruffneck for 8 years. We only had basic first aid training and weather we did right with everything or did a few things we could have done better, we still banded together and lifted the vehicle to extract her and managed to keep her from slipping too far into shock for over an hour until the bird landed to fly her to Junction. Don't knock us. We were bystanders who wanted to help and did what we could. Heather is a wonderful person btw.
You guys did a nice job getting her out of there. I wouldn't have been so comfortable being under the buggy with it upside down though. Hard to tell how stable it was with the camera angle.
@G B Apparently it was a degloved hand and there was alot of blood. But was an artery pumping? Was it enough blood to warrant a tourniquet? I doubt it but I wasn't there and I don't have military medical training. These guys admit they didn't either. Just trying to help. So I don't fault them for that. Where they DID fuck up SINCERELY was going out into a remote area to take on a KNOWN dangerous activity with apparently NOONE who WAS medically trained around with plenty of emergency gear on hand. Movie sets have emergency responders ON SET when they KNOW there is a dangerous stunt involved for a reason. It's called logic. I know it's more fun and less expensive to just run off into the desert and play. But that's also called being unprepared for the worst case scenario.
@@cra2cra226 At least these days Hell's Revenge isn't that remote. You probably have cell reception on most of this trail and if you carry a SPOT or other satellite device you can get one of several off-road tow services and varying degrees of medical attention in probably 30 minutes but usually with the number of people on this trail you're more likely to find someone that knows what they're doing so you stay out of trouble. Not exactly my definition of remote. Most of the Moab area isn't that wild these days, especially compared to 11 years ago when it was substantially less crowded and the hospital had yet to open (Feb 2011). Kind of pointless judging people 11 years after the fact. I thought this was Hell's Gate but apparently it is Escalator, which is followed by Tip-Over, so it seems like if they were experienced enough to choose one of the harder obstacles on Hell's Revenge they should have been fully aware of the tip over risk and discussed those risks ahead of time.
I was a Marine and career Firefighter, and I carry a paramedic level first aid pack everywhere. Proper patient assessment is critical, beginning with ABC’s; airway, bleeding, circulation (pulse). If bleeding, control with direct pressure, and if bleeding continues, place a tourniquet above the injury. Note time tourniquet was placed. Check LOC (level of consciousness), does patient know name, place and time; Monitor any changes to LOC. Stabilize head/neck and wait for first responders. The bystanders did their best, and responded without hesitation. Good job, however, anyone on scene that’s involved and has formal training with first aid, advanced first aid, paramedic, nurse or Doctor, should take charge until Fire Rescue arrives on scene.
@@JonAlycia We all "learn" it but forget to apply it during panic. Watch more Hell's Gate and Hell's Revenge videos and you'll see a dude sticking his arm out onto the rock trying to keep himself from flipping! You'll see another guy put his arm out onto the door to hang on while his vehicle rolled over. It happens all the time even though we've all heard not to do it.
To all of you who say she's overreacting, she's not. She got her hand/arm crushed between the rock and truck when it rolled. This is why you gotta learn to keep your hand inside in such situations.
WTF is with the dude with the baby?? Standing under a rolled vehicle with your baby in hand? I mean seriously? It's not like the guy was providing any aid either. There were lots of people there.
Did they think the DOM cage and safety belts were for looks? Could have been a simple roll over had someone told her to keep ALL body parts inside - period. Her being hurt could have easily been avoided...
As Heather later wrote: The accident crushed, broke, fractured or dislocated all of the bones from my wrist to my fingers. The rollover and subsequent dragging of my hand down the rock, degloved my hand. As of January 2012, I had ten surgeries on my hand. I had an external fixator installed, multiple pins and wires inserted and all later removed. Multiple surgeries were performed for reconstruction of my hand. This included a bone graft, using bone from my hip, to rebuild my wrist.
Eriksson Tord Damn, that was an awful injury Heather! I’m sorry you had to experience that. A lot of these people that have written their ignorant posts, don’t understand that putting your hand out is your bodies natural reaction! If you Trip, the natural reaction to protect your head, the hand instantly goes out!
@@reubenromero7722 yes it's a natural reaction which is why you use window nets or wrist lanyards. They didn't even have anything more than lap belts on and no helmets so clearly safety wasn't a top priority for them. That's why people are clowning on them.
@gravesfiend138 I wouldn't exactly call myself a drama queen. I not only broke a bone; but I crushed my wrist, broke, fractured, or dislocated most of the bones in my hand & fingers. The rollover de-gloved my hand (tore all the skin off) and I have lost all my tendons. I have spent more than 5 weeks in the hospital & have had 9 surgeries. To date, I still have no use of my left hand. But, I'm glad to hear that you were such a man about your broken bone. I hope they set it & it healed correctl
You shouldn't have been driving in the first place.... put someone with no experience behind the wheel of an extremely powerful vehicle, without the first step of safety training for off roaders... you are lucky it wasn't your head or neck sticking out. It's no different than giving the keys to a 5 year old and saying, "Go for it."
@@PureChivalry She had the right line at 0:50 but he told her to go "passenger". It was the passengers fault. Plus he shoudlnt have even been spotting. Someone should have been in front. IMHO she would have been better off just driving alone.
@johnnytorres277 yeah, a child tells a driver turn right while on a bridge, are you going to listen? Lol. The main thing is she shouldn't have been driving in the first place, uneducated on physics, the vehicle, it's power, grip, traction, momentum, pivot points and angles.... not something you throw ANYONE into.
Because it's a roll cage. When a cage rolls, bits of you can hit it, and your arms can come out and be crushed as the vehicle moves. That's why I always hill climb with the windows slid closed.
Ok, I am a paramedic and first of all it is tourniquet, not turnicate. lol and it is not required for this. Some of you are correct, it is used ONLY! in severe bleeding. Pretty much only when an arm or leg is cut or orn off. Direct pressure, elevation, pressure points would be appropriate. If u can slow the bleeding the vessels should clot and stop the bleeding.
Remember that they make safety nets to go in place of your window opening for those that forget to keep their hands in but also because sometimes centrifugal force will just fling your arm out. Think Nascar or road racing. Every racing shop can provide these for fairly affordable prices.....and seatbelts!?
Nice rig, hope the arm healed up alright. I'm sure everyone after the fact can pick apart what went wrong. 1:20 you can see the rear wheels climbing the wall and starting the tip and unfortunately 1:28 you can see her arm outside when it does. I hate to say it was a painful lesson but you need to keep your hands on the wheel or covering your face in these kinds of situations. Great video and hope others can learn what to do and what not to do.
This is exactly what happened when you Don't sit down and explain to a new driver. What can happen before they get in a rig?. I blame everybody else except that driver for their injury. It's like going to a gun range and not knowing gun safety and no one explains it
It also looks like neither of them was wearing a seatbelt. Maybe a lap belt but nothing over the shoulder and certainly not a 5 point. Not trying to be critical, but to anyone watching, just note that professional drivers always wear their seatbelt.
@@nickvanhorn681 I agree with you to a degree, but at the same time she is an adult. If I went to a gun range for the first time as an adult, I would be asking questions. She is not a child. She is equally responsible for her safety. However, because the more experienced people did not tell her even if she did not ask, I fault them as well.
I fault the person guiding her. They have no judgment or understanding on guiding her correctly. I seen this happen before I watched it. The guide should have been able to get a brand new driver up that without this happening. He should’ve had her turn to her left & keep the right front tire from pushing the jeep over. If the right tire wasn’t so far up above the left & being able to see that is Obviously the Only Way the jeep could’ve rolled so Why let the front be leaning to the rolling direction. That’s all the weight being used wrong. If anything he should’ve had it lean opposite.
Happier moments when she drove up at first, so pretty. Mistakes like these are costly ! When I was a kid I rolled our little lawn and garden tractor down a gully. I rolled away as fast as I could, no harm done. Could of been fatal. Hope Heather heals well !
This video has been added to the "What NOT to do when offroading in the middle of nowhere" archive. Lets put a tourniquet on that not bleeding crush injury...
Here's what you don't do. You don't take a little baby down by a hurt person or a half rolled over buggy in a ravine. Come on people. I have two little girls and as a parent you keep them safe priority number 1
Saw an old man do the same thing on double whammy. Probably lost his left hand from how badly it was crushed. Rookies are the only ones that make this mistake, thinking they can stop the roll with their arm. Why they react like that, I couldn't guess. I've rolled on occasion and it's a loud and violent experience. But I grabbed tightly to the steering wheel and said hang on we're going over. That was for my co-pilot's benefit. ;)
To the rescuers and people in the video, never be on the downside of gravity with a 2000+lb. machine directly above your head. That buggy definitely, 110% should have been immediately secured with a couple of heavy duty winch cables- at least! I was shocked to see several people casually walking around and even hanging out directly below a lot of potential energy. I hope the driver is all healed up! Keep hands inside at all times!
@@AudioFreqx Yes- I recently did Hell's Revenge. It was a lot of fun but it is no joke. You realize that from the very start of the trail- literally just off the parking lot it gets real in a hurry. Very steep and narrow hump. I avoided all the optional obstacles (like this one- Hell's Gate, The Escalator & Hot Tubs) very intentionally. I see zero need to take unnecessary risks- especially at my age. You can enjoy the area safely and still have an amazing time.
Not saying this to be judgy, assume whatever personal risks you want, but by the very nature of these activities it is to be expected some people are not exactly placing self preservation as their top priority
@@yodaguy6956 The difference is, some enjoy these activities for 20+ years without as much as a scratch. Others get severely injured their first year out. Which would you rather be. Tour operators run these trails several times a day for years without a single accident. A little safety IQ and common sense goes a long way to staying in one piece, while still having much fun.
@@MOAB-UT yup, I have no problem with that. As long as people arent doing something that endangers others against their will I'm fine, and all those spectators know what's up. It's interesting to see an activity that pushing past the edge literally means flip you on your ass. I'd totally be down as a spectator, just not looking to drive my stock 2001 GMC 1500 up those particular routes
A good lesson for all here, you live and learn, when you're out on the trail, safety first, I don't think the derogatory comments on here are warranted, this could happen to any of us who actually go wheeling, the worst happens when you least expect it quite often on a simple section of trail, not that I'm saying this section of trail was simple but it would be considered relatively easy for that buggy.
I’ve got 30 years experience playing in the sand dunes and racing in Baja. I hate rocky and hard boulder ground just because of so many terrible accidents and damage to vehicles. You’re going to do what you want but you have to live with the fact that you hurt somebody unless you know exactly what you’re doing. So many things wrong here, many have already mentioned Nets, shoulder harnesses, wrist restraints, helmets etc. Try to do your homework before you think you know everything. It’s all fun and games till somebody gets hurt grandpa used to say. Never stand in front of a car when someone is trying to start it. Never stand in line of the fan blade area when someone is revving their engine. Don’t run with scissors! Never carry a little baby back-and-forth underneath of a rolled over rock crawler that could have fallen at any f-ing second. It’s not these vehicles or the sport that should be banned, it’s our own thinking. Have a nice day and stop thinking you know everything. Otherwise great video job And thanks for sharing so that others might learn what not to do or how easy it is to get hurt. God bless us all that we might keep each other safe in Jesus name
Have you ever tried it? I like hiking,backpacking & offroading. Sometimes you need to do some serious offroading to get to the best trailheads. But to answer your question, the point is that it's fun!
Couple of mistakes: 1. Simple 5 minute prepping/training on how to go up would have made her informed on how to drive up and stopped her from placing her arm out the buggy 2. THE LOOK OUTS!!!! There should have been lookouts to help direct the buggy and up close to tell her to back down when she started going up 3. Proper medical training from someone on the trail would have been wised, not totally necessary but when you have the potential for flipping over cars, it would have been smart
That is the number 1 way people get hurt on these things, rollovers are normally fine but so many people stick their arm out as a reflex and then they get hurt.
Depends, if it was smashed under the vehicle there could be massive internal bleeding that has to be stopped. It can also help with swelling, and possibly pain. I would venture to guess, if it was smashed under the frame, it probably crushed the bones, and severed a few things in there.
Guess 4 point harnesses are just for the cool factor. Seems like no one actually uses them. I have to wonder if wearing it would have kept her in the seat and therefore saving her some agony?
Props to her for trying. Like everyone else said, get out from under the buggy, and never hold onto the roll bar. That's what grab handles are for. Now you'll have to sell the buggy to pay for the heli ride......
@05Flatline Yup another roll over CAUSED by rear steer. I have not ssen too many people use it to their advantage. It almost always gets them into trouble.
observation: This video has been re-up-loaded. The comments are never good rightfully so. "rear steer" had nothing to do with this. I got 50 bucks that says Heather has f-d up something else since then. Like a car wreck from texting.
tourniquet is a great way to lose and arm that didnt have a problem in the first place. First thing you learn in first aid is that it is a last resort.
Another reason to use Arm restraints, on track days (I don't do off road, but safety is similar) they are a requirement for open cars. Also, HELMETS...you only have one head, people, please don't cite "I have don't this X times.." it does not eliminate the possibility of tragedy.
Wow! That sure looks rough and painful. It's no fun getting hurt out on a trail somewhere far from quick help. I've done it but luckily not that bad. Sure hope she recovers well and rock's on some more!
"Should I Call 911?" ... Yes! That's what it's there for. Easy to pick on these situations on video but over-all I noted far more positive action than negative. ... baby will grow up to become medic!
that rear steer is what caused it to roll. if the rear had been straightened, the rear would have stayed under it. Natural reaction is to put a hand out to try to stop it. that never works. hope she is ok
love all the arm chair medics around... "dont move her dont move her!..." she doesnt have a neck or back injury you need to move her to help prevent shock and more injurys... laying her out flat was the smartest thing they did, and yeah that tourniquet was the dumbest idea ever!
Someone who was there commented saying she was bleeding badly. Also, not sure if autocorrect, but it's a "tourniquet".. a "turncoat" is a term for a traitor.
I don't know what to say...the fact that this video made it on here and stayed is a good thing. A valuable lesson is learned, and people are human, we do reactive things which is why repetitive training is needed to do the right steps like keep your limbs inside. I hope she will be ok. God bless
its a dangerous reflex putting your hands out to think you can hold anything on distance from your body,hard to learn never to do this but the best way not injured in the middel of nowhere.i drive twenty years a tippy Suzuki SJ413 and rolled it hard three times in trialsport. i hate rollovers with my car. i think its good i have the chance to learn before i can lost three fingers like a friend does when he grab around his rollcage and hitting a tree!
THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU ONLY GO WHEELING WITH A TRUSTED GROUP!! WHERE THE HELL WAS THE SPOTTER FOR THE NEW DRIVER?!! THIS IS ALSO WHAT GIVES THE SPORT A BAD NAME!!!
Or have common sense and use some safety equipment when doing something inherently dangerous if you're not okay with ending up in the hospital. Helmets, 5 point harnesses and maybe some window nets or wrist restraints and everyone would have been laughing it off.
The ding-a-ling down there exposing a newborn/toddler to the situation should have his head examined regardless of his or the kids connection to the individual. Foolishness on too many levels.
Damn, looked like no big deal really, then shit got real!! Goes to show EVERY wreck needs to be attended to quickly. Good job guys, some cool and calm heads were present for sure. Side note, and maybe a silly question, but whats the process of getting a Chopper out there? A simple 911 call with the request and location no different than calling an Ambulance??
I hope you heal well! Don't listen to all these ignorant people, who have nothing better to do than criticize you on pure speculation. I'm someone who has been in offroad rollovers, and I know how stressful it is. I'd like to see some of these people in a roll, at the last split second before rolling think to themselves, hey my hands need to be here, and hey my legs should be here. Right... You can practice for that but, unless it's a slow motion flop good luck of being aware of those things.
As a paramedic i would have made the same damn call. I can keep people breathing in a long transport in an ambulance, I can't keep blood circulating to a hand that has no skin and multiple fractures. Life over limb sounds good, but 30 mins with out blood in the fingers results in tissue death and most often amputation. If it was you would you rather i drive you nice and slow? or would you rather fly and you keep your hand?
To all watching: Please do not apply a tourniquet for a wound that is not gushing out blood and can be controlled with strong pressure. You could cause the person to lose the affected limb! Over 90% of all bleeds (even very severe ones) can be controlled with brisk pressure.
She says "I'm not the best video cameraperson, sorry!" .... And proceeds to film basically a masterpiece of filmmaking as she puts the camera on exactly what the audience wants to see for the entirety of the video. Kudos to her!
+Gripnok
Yea, but she was extremely annoying ..
All she needs to do is stfu and point.
@ GripHisKnob - Masterpiece? Huh? She shakes the camera constantly My video is a masterpiece compared to this. Looks like all of them are Jerry's Kids..
I'm sorry, but our definitions of a "masterpiece" appear to be vastly different. 😁
So it is clear, Greg and I were the ones who did first aid until EMTs showed. Greg was in first wave of Marines in Afghanistan and I was a ruffneck for 8 years. We only had basic first aid training and weather we did right with everything or did a few things we could have done better, we still banded together and lifted the vehicle to extract her and managed to keep her from slipping too far into shock for over an hour until the bird landed to fly her to Junction. Don't knock us. We were bystanders who wanted to help and did what we could. Heather is a wonderful person btw.
You guys did a nice job getting her out of there. I wouldn't have been so comfortable being under the buggy with it upside down though. Hard to tell how stable it was with the camera angle.
@G B Apparently it was a degloved hand and there was alot of blood. But was an artery pumping? Was it enough blood to warrant a tourniquet? I doubt it but I wasn't there and I don't have military medical training. These guys admit they didn't either. Just trying to help. So I don't fault them for that.
Where they DID fuck up SINCERELY was going out into a remote area to take on a KNOWN dangerous activity with apparently NOONE who WAS medically trained around with plenty of emergency gear on hand. Movie sets have emergency responders ON SET when they KNOW there is a dangerous stunt involved for a reason. It's called logic. I know it's more fun and less expensive to just run off into the desert and play. But that's also called being unprepared for the worst case scenario.
U guys did very good! 💪
@@cra2cra226 At least these days Hell's Revenge isn't that remote. You probably have cell reception on most of this trail and if you carry a SPOT or other satellite device you can get one of several off-road tow services and varying degrees of medical attention in probably 30 minutes but usually with the number of people on this trail you're more likely to find someone that knows what they're doing so you stay out of trouble. Not exactly my definition of remote. Most of the Moab area isn't that wild these days, especially compared to 11 years ago when it was substantially less crowded and the hospital had yet to open (Feb 2011). Kind of pointless judging people 11 years after the fact. I thought this was Hell's Gate but apparently it is Escalator, which is followed by Tip-Over, so it seems like if they were experienced enough to choose one of the harder obstacles on Hell's Revenge they should have been fully aware of the tip over risk and discussed those risks ahead of time.
I was a Marine and career Firefighter, and I carry a paramedic level first aid pack everywhere. Proper patient assessment is critical, beginning with ABC’s; airway, bleeding, circulation (pulse).
If bleeding, control with direct pressure, and if bleeding continues, place a tourniquet above the injury. Note time tourniquet was placed. Check LOC (level of consciousness), does patient know name, place and time; Monitor any changes to LOC. Stabilize head/neck and wait for first responders. The bystanders did their best, and responded without hesitation. Good job, however, anyone on scene that’s involved and has formal training with first aid, advanced first aid, paramedic, nurse or Doctor, should take charge until Fire Rescue arrives on scene.
Keep hands and feet inside of the vehicle at all times?
basic day 1 first thing to learn. seems odd to have such a built rig and not keep your arms inside
@@JonAlycia We all "learn" it but forget to apply it during panic. Watch more Hell's Gate and Hell's Revenge videos and you'll see a dude sticking his arm out onto the rock trying to keep himself from flipping! You'll see another guy put his arm out onto the door to hang on while his vehicle rolled over. It happens all the time even though we've all heard not to do it.
Yeah and ur pops was supposed to pull out of ur ___ dumpster and he didn't now your here.
To all of you who say she's overreacting, she's not. She got her hand/arm crushed between the rock and truck when it rolled. This is why you gotta learn to keep your hand inside in such situations.
WTF is with the dude with the baby?? Standing under a rolled vehicle with your baby in hand? I mean seriously? It's not like the guy was providing any aid either. There were lots of people there.
Damn tourists.......
he's got serious grip on those shoes. I couldnt walk it in my running shoes last week...
Dumb A$$! Really? Get outta there with a baby!.....
Grow up little boy and stop spewing filth in public. You're pathetic.
Darwin is selecting out the stupid
Did they think the DOM cage and safety belts were for looks? Could have been a simple roll over had someone told her to keep ALL body parts inside - period. Her being hurt could have easily been avoided...
As Heather later wrote:
The accident crushed, broke, fractured or dislocated all of the bones from my wrist to my fingers. The rollover and subsequent dragging of my hand down the rock, degloved my hand. As of January 2012, I had ten surgeries on my hand. I had an external fixator installed, multiple pins and wires inserted and all later removed. Multiple surgeries were performed for reconstruction of my hand. This included a bone graft, using bone from my hip, to rebuild my wrist.
Eriksson Tord
Damn, that was an awful injury Heather!
I’m sorry you had to experience that.
A lot of these people that have written their ignorant posts, don’t understand that putting your hand out is your bodies natural reaction!
If you Trip, the natural reaction to protect your head, the hand instantly goes out!
@@reubenromero7722 yes it's a natural reaction which is why you use window nets or wrist lanyards. They didn't even have anything more than lap belts on and no helmets so clearly safety wasn't a top priority for them. That's why people are clowning on them.
@gravesfiend138 I wouldn't exactly call myself a drama queen. I not only broke a bone; but I crushed my wrist, broke, fractured, or dislocated most of the bones in my hand & fingers. The rollover de-gloved my hand (tore all the skin off) and I have lost all my tendons. I have spent more than 5 weeks in the hospital & have had 9 surgeries. To date, I still have no use of my left hand. But, I'm glad to hear that you were such a man about your broken bone. I hope they set it & it healed correctl
Just seeing this video from 10 years ago. I do hope that you are ok.
Wow! So sorry to hear. Such bad luck. I hope your hand got close to normal eventually
You shouldn't have been driving in the first place.... put someone with no experience behind the wheel of an extremely powerful vehicle, without the first step of safety training for off roaders... you are lucky it wasn't your head or neck sticking out. It's no different than giving the keys to a 5 year old and saying, "Go for it."
@@PureChivalry She had the right line at 0:50 but he told her to go "passenger". It was the passengers fault. Plus he shoudlnt have even been spotting. Someone should have been in front. IMHO she would have been better off just driving alone.
@johnnytorres277 yeah, a child tells a driver turn right while on a bridge, are you going to listen? Lol. The main thing is she shouldn't have been driving in the first place, uneducated on physics, the vehicle, it's power, grip, traction, momentum, pivot points and angles.... not something you throw ANYONE into.
Lol here comes heather there goes heather😂
This is a good lesson to be learned. Keep your hands inside the buggy at all times even when upside down!
And wear a seatbelt. Doesn’t look like either on hand anything more than a lap belt.
@@curtsellers8921 Agreed...and a window net would prevent this. Overkill? Maybe. You don't need it until you need it!
Because it's a roll cage. When a cage rolls, bits of you can hit it, and your arms can come out and be crushed as the vehicle moves. That's why I always hill climb with the windows slid closed.
Ok, I am a paramedic and first of all it is tourniquet, not turnicate. lol and it is not required for this. Some of you are correct, it is used ONLY! in severe bleeding. Pretty much only when an arm or leg is cut or orn off. Direct pressure, elevation, pressure points would be appropriate. If u can slow the bleeding the vessels should clot and stop the bleeding.
MY heart goes out to this woman who was injured. I hope she has recovered.
here let me come down with my baby (on the down hill side) and try to help with one arm...
Remember that they make safety nets to go in place of your window opening for those that forget to keep their hands in but also because sometimes centrifugal force will just fling your arm out. Think Nascar or road racing. Every racing shop can provide these for fairly affordable prices.....and seatbelts!?
Good call! Safety netting was the first thing that I thought of when viewing this accident.
Where was the spotter?
Nice rig, hope the arm healed up alright. I'm sure everyone after the fact can pick apart what went wrong. 1:20 you can see the rear wheels climbing the wall and starting the tip and unfortunately 1:28 you can see her arm outside when it does. I hate to say it was a painful lesson but you need to keep your hands on the wheel or covering your face in these kinds of situations. Great video and hope others can learn what to do and what not to do.
This is exactly what happened when you Don't sit down and explain to a new driver. What can happen before they get in a rig?. I blame everybody else except that driver for their injury. It's like going to a gun range and not knowing gun safety and no one explains it
It also looks like neither of them was wearing a seatbelt. Maybe a lap belt but nothing over the shoulder and certainly not a 5 point. Not trying to be critical, but to anyone watching, just note that professional drivers always wear their seatbelt.
@@nickvanhorn681 I agree with you to a degree, but at the same time she is an adult. If I went to a gun range for the first time as an adult, I would be asking questions. She is not a child. She is equally responsible for her safety. However, because the more experienced people did not tell her even if she did not ask, I fault them as well.
I fault the person guiding her. They have no judgment or understanding on guiding her correctly. I seen this happen before I watched it. The guide should have been able to get a brand new driver up that without this happening. He should’ve had her turn to her left & keep the right front tire from pushing the jeep over. If the right tire wasn’t so far up above the left & being able to see that is Obviously the Only Way the jeep could’ve rolled so Why let the front be leaning to the rolling direction. That’s all the weight being used wrong. If anything he should’ve had it lean opposite.
" Don't worry honey , you got this "
it looks like she was gonna go the right way at first , then she went straight up the damn wall?
keeponkeepnon - ur comments dude lol !! I laughed so hard
Happier moments when she drove up at first, so pretty.
Mistakes like these are costly ! When I was a kid I rolled
our little lawn and garden tractor down a gully. I rolled away
as fast as I could, no harm done. Could of been fatal.
Hope Heather heals well !
This video has been added to the "What NOT to do when offroading in the middle of nowhere" archive. Lets put a tourniquet on that not bleeding crush injury...
Here's what you don't do. You don't take a little baby down by a hurt person or a half rolled over buggy in a ravine. Come on people. I have two little girls and as a parent you keep them safe priority number 1
Saw an old man do the same thing on double whammy. Probably lost his left hand from how badly it was crushed. Rookies are the only ones that make this mistake, thinking they can stop the roll with their arm. Why they react like that, I couldn't guess. I've rolled on occasion and it's a loud and violent experience. But I grabbed tightly to the steering wheel and said hang on we're going over. That was for my co-pilot's benefit. ;)
To the rescuers and people in the video, never be on the downside of gravity with a 2000+lb. machine directly above your head. That buggy definitely, 110% should have been immediately secured with a couple of heavy duty winch cables- at least! I was shocked to see several people casually walking around and even hanging out directly below a lot of potential energy. I hope the driver is all healed up! Keep hands inside at all times!
and the baby.. sheesh
@@AudioFreqx Yes- I recently did Hell's Revenge. It was a lot of fun but it is no joke. You realize that from the very start of the trail- literally just off the parking lot it gets real in a hurry. Very steep and narrow hump. I avoided all the optional obstacles (like this one- Hell's Gate, The Escalator & Hot Tubs) very intentionally. I see zero need to take unnecessary risks- especially at my age. You can enjoy the area safely and still have an amazing time.
Not saying this to be judgy, assume whatever personal risks you want, but by the very nature of these activities it is to be expected some people are not exactly placing self preservation as their top priority
@@yodaguy6956 The difference is, some enjoy these activities for 20+ years without as much as a scratch. Others get severely injured their first year out. Which would you rather be. Tour operators run these trails several times a day for years without a single accident. A little safety IQ and common sense goes a long way to staying in one piece, while still having much fun.
@@MOAB-UT yup, I have no problem with that. As long as people arent doing something that endangers others against their will I'm fine, and all those spectators know what's up. It's interesting to see an activity that pushing past the edge literally means flip you on your ass. I'd totally be down as a spectator, just not looking to drive my stock 2001 GMC 1500 up those particular routes
A good lesson for all here, you live and learn, when you're out on the trail, safety first, I don't think the derogatory comments on here are warranted, this could happen to any of us who actually go wheeling, the worst happens when you least expect it quite often on a simple section of trail, not that I'm saying this section of trail was simple but it would be considered relatively easy for that buggy.
1) Always wear a helmet.
2) Don't bring a baby to a wreck.
3) Dial for help if there is any doubt.
Literally bulletproof buggy and can't keep her hands inside. It can't happen to any of us with common sense
And Bronco did Climb that trail with no trouble. Ford has done an awesome job at engineering.
Here comes heather... There goes heather lol
GOOCH2655 😂💀
Lmao
That’s why u hold the steering wheel when I rolled my steering was bent from me holding it
I’ve got 30 years experience playing in the sand dunes and racing in Baja. I hate rocky and hard boulder ground just because of so many terrible accidents and damage to vehicles. You’re going to do what you want but you have to live with the fact that you hurt somebody unless you know exactly what you’re doing. So many things wrong here, many have already mentioned Nets, shoulder harnesses, wrist restraints, helmets etc.
Try to do your homework before you think you know everything. It’s all fun and games till somebody gets hurt grandpa used to say. Never stand in front of a car when someone is trying to start it. Never stand in line of the fan blade area when someone is revving their engine. Don’t run with scissors! Never carry a little baby back-and-forth underneath of a rolled over rock crawler that could have fallen at any f-ing second.
It’s not these vehicles or the sport that should be banned, it’s our own thinking.
Have a nice day and stop thinking you know everything. Otherwise great video job And thanks for sharing so that others might learn what not to do or how easy it is to get hurt. God bless us all that we might keep each other safe in Jesus name
oh and btw they were wearing belts. we had to cut them to get her out. FYI
Have you ever tried it? I like hiking,backpacking & offroading. Sometimes you need to do some serious offroading to get to the best trailheads. But to answer your question, the point is that it's fun!
full screen at 1:21 you can acually see the buggy drag her arm across the rocks and im assuming the man grunt at 1:45 is them lifting it off her arm
where's the spotter?
Exactly!
what happened did her arm get severed or just scraped up
You play you pay, you have to be ready to pay.
Couple of mistakes:
1. Simple 5 minute prepping/training on how to go up would have made her informed on how to drive up and stopped her from placing her arm out the buggy
2. THE LOOK OUTS!!!! There should have been lookouts to help direct the buggy and up close to tell her to back down when she started going up
3. Proper medical training from someone on the trail would have been wised, not totally necessary but when you have the potential for flipping over cars, it would have been smart
What happened to Heather's hand ? Did she go RoboCop ?
in case of roll over always grab your seatbelt with both hands. its easy to swing one arm out of the vehicle.
see anyone seatbelt?
That is the number 1 way people get hurt on these things, rollovers are normally fine but so many people stick their arm out as a reflex and then they get hurt.
Perfect place for a baby
+йордан маринов Right? haha
+йордан маринов Yea I saw that guy walk below the rolled buggy with a baby thinking wtf... so much stupid.
This is what happens when u drink and crawl
as long as he is male...
@@JayElement13 wait... you don’t drink and crawl?
How did she get hurt if she had a roll cage?
What about the guy walking up and down slippery steep rocks with a 2 year old in his arms??? WTH
That's exactly what I was thinking, WTF is wrong with people, good lord someone smack some sense into him!
I see a preschooler, a toddler, and a baby with their parents.
Drives expensive custom crawler, doesn’t know the first rule of what not to do in the event of a rollover
Did she stick her arm out of the vehicle?
Knew from the get go that lady should not have been driving this obstacle
how is she doing now?
Depends, if it was smashed under the vehicle there could be massive internal bleeding that has to be stopped. It can also help with swelling, and possibly pain. I would venture to guess, if it was smashed under the frame, it probably crushed the bones, and severed a few things in there.
Wait, what is the tourniquet for?
err hands and feet in the truck at all times?
im confused how is the hurt?
Guess 4 point harnesses are just for the cool factor. Seems like no one actually uses them. I have to wonder if wearing it would have kept her in the seat and therefore saving her some agony?
Props to her for trying. Like everyone else said, get out from under the buggy, and never hold onto the roll bar. That's what grab handles are for. Now you'll have to sell the buggy to pay for the heli ride......
So did she lose her hand or was they able to save it?
Guess on a roll over, hanvg on to steering wheel both hands keep all hands and feet inside buggy or jeep
How did she brake her arm on that?
Waldys off road estuvo aquí,y UA-cam me recomendó este
I always tell riders if we roll hugg yourself until the buggy stops moving!!
@05Flatline Yup another roll over CAUSED by rear steer. I have not ssen too many people use it to their advantage. It almost always gets them into trouble.
Just out of curiosity, did you wear seat belts? Not flaming, not starting a piss contest, just a straight up question from a fellow wheeler.
observation: This video has been re-up-loaded. The comments are never good rightfully so. "rear steer" had nothing to do with this. I got 50 bucks that says Heather has f-d up something else since then. Like a car wreck from texting.
So what the roll bar failed or did she put her hands out when it rolled>?
Kenneth Phillips she put her hand out thats why she screamed
+Kenneth Phillips What do you mean so what... The video is called roll over and she got her hand degloved, do you know what that means...
why was everyone running away? can it explode or something?
looks like they where getting out of the way of the other buggy
no but can roll unpredictably
tourniquet is a great way to lose and arm that didnt have a problem in the first place. First thing you learn in first aid is that it is a last resort.
whats up the dude holding the baby at the scene?
Hope she was ok ...... This could happen to anyone , glad there were people around to help ...
Another reason to use Arm restraints, on track days (I don't do off road, but safety is similar) they are a requirement for open cars. Also, HELMETS...you only have one head, people, please don't cite "I have don't this X times.." it does not eliminate the possibility of tragedy.
Wow! That sure looks rough and painful. It's no fun getting hurt out on a trail somewhere far from quick help. I've done it but luckily not that bad. Sure hope she recovers well and rock's on some more!
from the look of the beginning of the video i would say not but that is just assuming tehy would have 5 points in that buggy.
"Should I Call 911?" ... Yes!
That's what it's there for.
Easy to pick on these situations on video but over-all I noted far more positive action than negative.
... baby will grow up to become medic!
How is she doing?
that rear steer is what caused it to roll. if the rear had been straightened, the rear would have stayed under it. Natural reaction is to put a hand out to try to stop it. that never works. hope she is ok
love all the arm chair medics around... "dont move her dont move her!..." she doesnt have a neck or back injury you need to move her to help prevent shock and more injurys... laying her out flat was the smartest thing they did, and yeah that tourniquet was the dumbest idea ever!
Why was he using his belt like a turncoat? That's for heavy bleeding not broken arms
Someone who was there commented saying she was bleeding badly.
Also, not sure if autocorrect, but it's a "tourniquet".. a "turncoat" is a term for a traitor.
Good save, calm head in any situation will work.secure vehicle and stabilize is key.hope foe speedy recovery👍🇺🇸
No skid lid?
the stock jeeps are like hurry up get out the way lol
Where do you see a jeep i see only Toyota's and buggies?
there are standing so many cars around...sit her in one of them and drive her to a hospital.
She must have had a instinct to reach up when she rolled her hands were inside when she was driving
I don't know what to say...the fact that this video made it on here and stayed is a good thing. A valuable lesson is learned, and people are human, we do reactive things which is why repetitive training is needed to do the right steps like keep your limbs inside. I hope she will be ok. God bless
What did she injure
Pewnie wystawiła rękę jak się przewracał, i efekt, a czy była zapięta w pasy?
its a dangerous reflex putting your hands out to think you can hold anything on distance from your body,hard to learn never to do this but the best way not injured in the middel of nowhere.i drive twenty years a tippy Suzuki SJ413 and rolled it hard three times in trialsport. i hate rollovers with my car. i think its good i have the chance to learn before i can lost three fingers like a friend does when he grab around his rollcage and hitting a tree!
@blueduster74 like everyone else, asked, why no spotter?
THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU ONLY GO WHEELING WITH A TRUSTED GROUP!!
WHERE THE HELL WAS THE SPOTTER FOR THE NEW DRIVER?!!
THIS IS ALSO WHAT GIVES THE SPORT A BAD NAME!!!
Or have common sense and use some safety equipment when doing something inherently dangerous if you're not okay with ending up in the hospital.
Helmets, 5 point harnesses and maybe some window nets or wrist restraints and everyone would have been laughing it off.
7:44 they send a chopper for her? Hospital bill must be crazy high. How long back to civilization from this trail?
This is probably 20 minutes from the end of the trail but it is technical driving over rough terrain.
Whats helo response time way out there?
The ding-a-ling down there exposing a newborn/toddler to the situation should have his head examined regardless of his or the kids connection to the individual. Foolishness on too many levels.
Where's her helmet?
what exactly happened?
Are they ok
Don't ever apply a tourniquet unless the person is gushing blood!
That was really bad in so many ways.
How did she get this far
without seat belts?? It was crazy
2nd mistake of the day. Leave your baby at the bottom of the hill. 2:25
Damn, looked like no big deal really, then shit got real!! Goes to show EVERY wreck needs to be attended to quickly. Good job guys, some cool and calm heads were present for sure.
Side note, and maybe a silly question, but whats the process of getting a Chopper out there? A simple 911 call with the request and location no different than calling an Ambulance??
I hope you heal well! Don't listen to all these ignorant people, who have nothing better to do than criticize you on pure speculation. I'm someone who has been in offroad rollovers, and I know how stressful it is. I'd like to see some of these people in a roll, at the last split second before rolling think to themselves, hey my hands need to be here, and hey my legs should be here. Right... You can practice for that but, unless it's a slow motion flop good luck of being aware of those things.
As a paramedic i would have made the same damn call. I can keep people breathing in a long transport in an ambulance, I can't keep blood circulating to a hand that has no skin and multiple fractures. Life over limb sounds good, but 30 mins with out blood in the fingers results in tissue death and most often amputation. If it was you would you rather i drive you nice and slow? or would you rather fly and you keep your hand?
There is a reason all professional sports run window nets.Why rock crawlers don't use them and helmets is beyond me.
Agreed!
To all watching:
Please do not apply a tourniquet for a wound that is not gushing out blood and can be controlled with strong pressure.
You could cause the person to lose the affected limb!
Over 90% of all bleeds (even very severe ones) can be controlled with brisk pressure.