I inherited one and thought it was going to be junk, well it is junk, the seat is rusted gone it was stored uncovered in pieces outside and the outriggers are rust welded into the channels, I dug it out of a mass of undergrowth. Well I had some time and I like a challenge so I challenged myself to getting it running again. The little motor on mine is a Robin which was a surprise because they are good medium quality engines. I cleaned and rebuilt the carb and that was a no go so I bought a chinesium knock off carb and it started right up. I drained the hydraulic oil and replaced all the rotted rubber hoses, all the hydraulic lines were in still passable condition. I light sanded off the rusted surfaces of the cylinders with 2000 grit and oiled them and expected the seals to get ruined but was just looking to see if it would actually resurrect, never planned on keeping it, was seriously thinking of selling it for scrap weight. It ran good that little Robin engine and I replaced the hydraulic filter and the coupling that broke and gave her new engine oil. Both tires and rims were gone rusted thru so I replaced them with some I had that were close enough to work. Everything was a bear grinding and banging to get the rust off. I took it to an overgrown field and taught myself how to use it sitting on a flat plate welded to a piece of pipe. I cleared the field of small trees and stumps and leveled the ground it worked amazingly well I didn't expect it to be worth a dam but I still have it after fabricating a seat and use it here and there for small jobs. Not bad for what it is that's what was surprising. I'll keep it like it is but if something major fails I'll have a nice little Robin engine to use somewhere else. Took me the better part of a year to get the outriggers oiled and grinded and beat on to release from the channel and then grind some more so they would fit like they should. It basically cost me about $150 dollars in parts the most expensive being the 5 gallons of hydraulic oil.The Kid here makes a good video.
Yeah. Better than hand shoveling. But tbf, it's from harbor freight ie it's cheap china crap. You get what you pay for & id say its probably best to just save the money spent on this rig & invest in better quality equipment..
@@tmzz3609 stop what? Today harbor freight is selling that backhoe trencher for $2999.99 . Today Home depot is renting a 1.5/2 ton mini excavator that can dig to 6.5 feet for $369 a day. They give e you a break if you need longer period. But at the day rate buying the trencher works, if you have 10 more day long jobs . Yes there are better tools for the job posted, bobcat, excavator , pocket dozer….but I was only comparing costs for the machine at hand.
@@tmzz3609 About $300 for a Mini ex and $250 for a small skid steer per day. I just rented both last month. So $550 a day for both which means 6 days rental is more then $3000.
I've had mine for about 6 years now. I've dug water lines, removed overgrown fence rows and tree stumps. I did break a tooth off while trying to leverage out a stump. Do yourself a favor and replace those Bent Pins that go to the outriggers and axels. They tend to wallow out the holes from the motion. I went to our local Tractor Supply and got swivel handle hitch pins with a definite shoulder that sit level above the holes. I also got tired of getting stabbed and snagged on the ends of all the cotter pins and replaced all those with linchpins. A grease gun is your friend too. Great work!
@@drcovell when I grease mine I leave an extra dab of grease ovet the fitting then wipe it off right before the next greasing as it helps keep the dirt and corrosion from the grease fittings
@@Loan--Wolf Short answer, no. It has nothing to do with the HF backhoe. In my area there are a lot of people importing the mini excavators from China. There are enough that there is a bit of a Price War going on. You can buy a tracked excavator with bucket and backfill blade, in some cases for less than $4k. Id go that route now, just for the added ease of movement.
ive got a gas powered barrow on tank tracks that will move around and dump out almost a ton of dirt, and it climbs hills full. Combined with my backhoe im unstoppable! lol
@user-xi6yq8rp6e there's a store to get them right next to the doctors office. Maybe swing by and have them pull that stick out while you're in the area.
The beauty of the situation is that you came in without unreasonable expectations and the patience to let the machine show you what it is capable of. Win win all around.
These are extremely capable... However the weakest links are the pivot pins (main boom and cylinders) and bucket tooth pins(causing the teeth to fall off)and the swing pivot pin (as it wears out it will oblong the swing cylinder pin holes). Mine is 9yrs old already and has paid for itself numerous times over and has had all these issues... Also you must run zddp additive in the engine or it will eat its camshaft lobes as it is a flat tappet cam and lifter engine, also avoid ethanol in your fuel like it's a plague as the carb will fail rapidly if this isn't followed.
@@prairiefork I read the break in but decided to use my own procedure instead... (kept it under 3/4 throttle varying speed constantly for the first week of use)
Silly me - And I Thought That the OIL FILTER would actually capture all that manufacturing and milling chunks of debris you guys seem to find in your oil. In the past I learned from people who's work is to actually research breaking in engines that the reason to change oil early on the first change is to allow the rings, using single viscosity organic lube oil, to polishing the cylinder walls before heavy usage with better multi viscosity oil. You know, getting rid of the well known new engine high oil consumption from unpolished cylinder walls before changing over to multi-grade super slippery oil. Not really rocket science, eh?
@@joesinakandid528 Except for small engines like that one don't have oil filters. And on engines that do have an oil filter the oil goes through the oil pump (unfiltered) before it goes through the filter. So there is definitely very good reason to change the brake in oil at the recommended time.
@@joesinakandid528 Even cars have a shorter oil change interval for the first oil change for the exact same reasons. Same with full size excavators, backhoes, dozers, etc. You seem really confident for someone who seems to now know much about this.
This first oil change is important but not because of the oil. The purpose is to dispose of all of the tiny loose metal particles that remained after the machining and assembly processes. The theory is that these particles will be flushed into the filter by the new oil and disposed of during that first oil /filter change. There are also solvents and lubricants that are incompatible with the oil. These metal shavings and chemicals will cause accelerated wear if allowed to stay inside the engine!
Also important is that you do NOT do the first oil change before the manufacturer recommends. You actually need those little particles to break the engine in and seat everything.
@@toobad9946 Yeah there have been reports of high oil consumption, smoking, and other issues on units that haven't been broken in properly. I never change the oil the first time, on new units I service, until after what the mfg says. It's usually In the owners manual under maintenance intervals. It'll say change oil after 150 hours (or whatever) with an *. Then below it will say: " * - Change oil and filter after the first X hours." Small air cooled engines are usually 5 or 8 hours, but others are 25. John Deere diesels are 100 hours if I recall.
I recently redid a septic field by hand, partly because I'm cheap and partly because I find manual labor cathartic (I don't do much of it in my day-to-day work). But no question, if I had to do it again I would be using one of those! For the price, it doesn't seem like there's a valid criticism to be made.
I’m a service plumber and I’d love to have this for replacing water mains. I’d have to get another bucket and have it made more narrow tho. But like you said, much better than hand digging and cheaper than a rents over time.
Why not just rent a real backhoe or tractor with backhoe and probably get it all done in 2 days or less? $600-700 most likely to rent, but then you don't have any maintenance, and get to use a better machine that's faster. I hand dug down to my septic tank (40 hours by hand - rocky soil and I wasn't exactly sure where to dig). I then needed to expose more, so I rented a tractor w/ backhoe. I was amazed that I could have done in 30 min what I spent 40 hours doing. Now I own an old Case backhoe that I bought to do the dirt work for my shop. I got a quote of $10000 for the dirt work. I have about $8000 in the backhoe (I shopped around for months, and bought it in 2017). I spent a lot of time doing the work, but the backhoe paid for it's self if you don't count my time...before my kiddo I had plenty of time to spend doing stuff like that.
@@jameswalker590 Well, the main reason I did it manually was because I'm not technically allowed to repair the fields, so I had to do it on the down low, if you know what I mean! :) This seems like it would be quiet enough to slip under the radar of nosy neighbors where a real backhoe probably wouldn't.
I have owned one of these for about 4 years. I have done an INSANE amount of work on it. I have replaced so much stuff on it. It’s still running. I’m still digging on my 5+ acre property. Still taking down trees, digging up roots, moving stuff. It’s actually incredible the amount of work this thing has done. Only down said is that its a little slow and maneuvering is not the easiest either. But like you said there are some places where it works even better than traditional excavator.
@@viokosovan322I purchased my newest backhoe in 2005. I have over 2khrs on it. I have replaced a hose and a zerk fitting. Oh and of course oil, grease, and filters. But it cost a LOT more than one of these! I use it on a very rugged 40 acre timber lot. I can see the utility of one of these little tow behind units. I can see where it might be able to be used in a location too tight for a real backhoe, but in those situations, I would still rather rent a tiny excavator. As to these being better than a real backhoe or excavator? No way. That's justification, not reality! Compare the construction and size of the boom, dipper, rams, pivots, pump... but the most important difference is weight.
Ok to be clear. I’m very negligent. I have left it outside for it’s entire life. Almost 5 years and I live in WA where it rains 6 months out of the year. And the “things” that I replaced on it were regular maintenance things that all tractors require. Don’t tell me you’ve had a “real” excavator without changing the hydraulic fluid for 5 years lol… Because it’s actually impossible. You HAVE to replace a list of things including the hydraulic fluid as it has a limited shelf life. As for any real parts, the only thing that I replaced were the “arm legs” which were under $50 each. $120 including shipping and taxes shipped to my door. AND the only reason I believe it was broken is because I let some guys use it and they have not the slightest on how excavator mechanics work to ensure longevity. Like they break things first day the use it… While I been using it for years…
I made one of these 20plus years ago . Same configuration same controls . They are great. Dug footings, trenches etc.. I had plans and bought steel plate and square posts. Brings back good memories..
I bought an old towable backhoe (a Badger, seems to be made by Honda but so old can't get a lot of info). I replaced the leaky Hydraulics/some old lines, put on Predator engine, replaced pump... and so so so worth having. I almost bought the HF one but covid hit and it went on backorder. I am certain I'd be happy with the HF, the overhauled old digger is heavier (can use bigger buckets on it) and overall with repairs cost a little more but these towable diggers work and for ditch digging (what I mainly use it for, have dug over 700 feet of ditches) it is great. Has saved me many thousands at this point.
Ive done lots upgrades to mine Went to one Hydraulic got a 4 point 1 pump for mine not for speed but efficiency change seat Bigger return hose extra wheels I hang blocks off back to keep it from jumping around so bad Canopy on it for sun they are stronger than you think had mine for 4 yrs done everything with it
Love the video and the info. 💯 👍👍👍 For wearing a hoodie in the sun, people think I am an idiot for covering up in the summer. I wear hoodies and long sleeves and hoods/hats non stop. I don't mind the sweat and it actually cools you as you sweat into layers. And since I work outside EVERY DAY I think its a good thing to be careful about sun exposure
i absolutely love mine. I bent one of the hydraulic rams (found its limits trying to pull out a stump). I got another prolly 60 hours out of the ram after i bent it and just forced it to close which straightened it back out. Replaced the ram, and no problems whatsoever for years. Ive got an unstoppable tank tracked gas powered wheel barrow thing that'll go straight up crazy steep hills with almost a ton of dirt in it. With those two tools i can do almost anything with my ROCKY ass land.
@@manleynelson9419 look up US ExtremePower 6.5hp its the one that moves 1100 pounds (is what it says, it would do more if you could fit it, i suspect!)
Harbor Freight has impressed me the last few years. There really are some tools with quality and value. I also like the changes you've made to your video production. You'e getting it down.
i have been buying HF stuff or 20 years now! i dont think the electrical tools would stand up to every day contractor type work but for occasional use seem fine. i havent tried the new ratchets yet the old ones were just so-so for farm use but the sockets and end wrenches held up fine i used the 3/4 in drive sockets on our big disk blade gang nuts with 8 ft of cheater one the breaker bar sockets are just fine!!!!! wired our new shop with their 5000 lum led lites --LOVE THEM have fun all
@@frrapp2366 I did my garage with those 5,000 lumens daisy chain lights also. Very nice. It's handy being able to turn all of them on or just whatever light you want on.
I’m an excavation contractor, I really would never have a need for that. But we actually have a septic pumper locally that tows one behind his pumper truck. Seems like an awesome setup to me.
Years ago my boss and I seen a baby mini excavator and laughed until they ran it out the back of a pickup and dug up a telephone line in the middle of a drought, the ground was so hard a shovel wouldn't make a mark but it dug with no problem and then they put it right back in the pickup. They said at best it would dig 5 feet but doing phone lines it beats a shovel.
@@howlandexcavating they are more useful than most realize and while folded up fit inside a 5x10 utility trailer they can fit through a 4ft gate/fence opening and can be towed into remote areas via a yard/garden tractor, atv compact tractor, self walked in, or most any vehicle with a hitch. I upgraded to a 2inch ball coupler on mine so that my trailers under 5k lbs all hooked to a 2inch ball.
@@dodgeme1986truck nice. It wouldn’t be very useful for me specifically. I am lucky if I put 40 hours a year on my 8 ton. It’s just too small for my business. but I could really see these things being very useful. Especially for a small landscape contractor, planting shrubs and trees.
It’s s much faster way to uncover a septic tank cover. Using picks and shovels may look “Manly” but it takes time and will eventually wear out your shoulders!
That's what I'm buying and will pull it with my compact tractor around my property as needed. It is WAAAAY cheaper than the factory backhoe attachment that's available for my tractor.
I have two. A Yanmar and a John Deere. The serial number plate on the John Deere reads, "Manufactured in Japan by Yanmar", so technically I have two Yanmars lol 🤣😆.
Save yourself a hard fall, put grip tape on the platform for your feet. It gets extremely slippery when wet, or when walking from wet grass to your backhoe.
I'm not an engineer but I'll bet those axles are only designed to handle the rolling weight of the unit. The moment you start digging snd adding a bunch of additional stress/weight to them, you are probably going to bend an axle. Those outriggers are significantly stronger.
My dad built a CADdigger from plans he bought from an ad in popular science. It's the same concept, about this size bigger engine, probably a little sturdier. Very handy digger. Put a foundation under his house, dug a pond, buried water lines
I have one as well. 20 years now and not broken . It has limitations of course but paid for itself many times over. I have three buckets. A trencher, a digging bucket ( a little larger than that shown in the video ) and a scoop about 40 inches wide. The trencher and bucket get the most use. This HB version looks like a really close copy of a CADplans machine.
People need to understand the limitations of these kind of machines, and that the work will simply take longer. Faster/easier than digging by hand, but MUCH slower than a full size machine. People seem to think all machines are the same- I mean, they make different size machines for a reason LOL ALWAYS throttle up machines while working. Movements will be smoother, and work will take less effort. It grinds my gears when I watch people operating, and they didn't throttle up the machine...
He said the manual tells you to run on low throttle for the first 25 hours. My guess is that the engine and hydraulics need to break in/wear together before putting a full power load on it. May be washing out metal flakes from milling the engine, out from the engine too is my guess, thus the oil change at 25 hours.
@@losapriscos7258 *smacks forehead * Man I am old. I forget Tim the TOOL MAN Taylor is hella old school now. ( home improvement) He put a Rocket engine on a riding lawn mower. And of course it went badly. FAW google it.
I like the included instructional video @ 7:54 on what not to do to your truck. Teasing. What I have found from HF is that their products - that in the 80s/90s were DEFINATELY purchased as one-offs... you didn't expect more than a single project worth of time out of things (if that).... from '89 through 94, every piece I sculpted for the Vegas strip was done with what I called "disposable" electric chainsaws from Harbor Freight. Then in the mid 2000s, I don't know exactly when, but I literally woke up after a coma, in 2006, and the next thing I bought from Harbor Freight, a 10" cut-off saw... lasted me until just now. Like 14 years. Huge load of work through over a decade of commercial use, and the only thing that went wrong was the actuator for the safety cover broke about a decade later. Easy fix. I just bought the same brand (Admiral) 12' saw, that is still sitting about 6 feet behind me, not installed on the table yet. Startling turn-around, quality wise, from the 1990s to now.
A helpful note here. I put an attachment on my trailer hitch that has a 2 inch female galvanized pipe opening on it. This allows me to simply set the mid tooth of the trencher down into the 2in. pipe coupler. I then lowered the extended boom until the outriggers came off of the ground! also, when I use this method, I will have my wife in the truck, and me on the machine. That way i can "back steer" the unit into tighter situations!
🌹 The company should contract you to demo their machinery Dalton. You did such a good job! 👏 I know absolutely nothing about machinery but the way you explain everything in such detail and so clearly .... you have taught me such a lot. In fact, I learn something new from each and every video you share with us on here. Thank you.💐 You have so many skills and your willingness to share your knowledge is such an inspiration to all the young guys out there. You would make a brilliant teacher. You have so much to offer. 🌹
Thank you for doing it the right way. I hate when people buy a unit from harbor freight. And completely abuse it. And then try to return it hen they ruin it. If you want a rental unit. Rent one
Be careful.... it has the power to rip the bucket in half. I would reduce the pressure setting of the relief valve in the control valve body. There's a direct replacement pump to bolt on the engine which doubles flow rate, but not pressure. Everything moves faster and you can use all 4 levers at once.
Why in the world would you be convinced that you shouldn't idle it up after you've changed out the break-in oil? My god it's a predator engine, rev the shit out of it. Unless you outright neglect those things it's gonna take whatever you can throw at it. Worst case scenario you're out 250 bucks for a brand new engine. The faster you turn that pump the faster and stronger it's gonna dig.
There’s a publication by Continental motors called “don’t baby your engine” that explains break-in on air-cooled aircraft engines. It gave me a new perspective on different engines break-in processes and that what we know from one doesn’t necessarily apply to others. Personally, I run the absolute shit out of everything I own that has an engine.
@@bigboycombo6342 Yup. The point of the article I mentioned explains how being too easy on an engine allows deposits to get into the cylinder honing and rings to not set. On a distantly related note... I've been on a rant lately thinking that Musk is going to release an internal combustion engine as soon as subsidies for EVs end. The reason I believe this is that the scale of high performance alloys that they're producing and using for SpaceX can yield higher temperature deltas than current metals used in engines, and thus greater thermodynamic efficiency. What if valves didn't burn, pistons didn't melt, and rod caps were at lower risk of letting loose at the top of the exhaust stroke where we're most likely to throw a rod? The efficiency limiting factor on one of my airplanes is the material that the turbocharger exhaust housing is made from, so I have to manage my fuel burn based on what amounts to the temperature of the hot exhaust going into the exhaust side of the turbocharger. Either I have to run so lean that I start to lose some power, which at least is more efficient, or I have to run extra rich, wasting fuel and adding carbon deposits.
I bought one used for $1500. It was the best investment I ever made. I had to reinforce the bucket. Even with the small 9HP engine, it has enough power to rip the bucket apart.
Theres an engine break in period for cars too, I dunno what they do off the factory line but after a rebuild you should do an oil change within the first 500 mi or so, for the same reason as Kenlie mentions in the above comment. (also in case any debris was inrtoduced while the engine was apart)
Lowering operating pressure will prevent bent cylinder rods and cracked or bent booms, and damage to the bucket. When the limit of force on cylinders is exceeded, bent rods result. Lowering pressure will not decrease the speed of movement, but will greatly prolong the life of the machine. All hydraulic systems have a pressure regulator, and h.p. relief valve designed to prevent damage.
I have one that is over 10 years old now. I've dug 2 little ponds plus all manner of projects such as holes for trees, drainage, cleared rocks, trails, etc. It is slow but works and got mine for $500 used. Had to rebuild a couple of the hydraulic cylinders and replace the lines when I got it but that was only a couple hundred dollars and some labor. Keep the oil changed and hydraulic tank full and it will just work and work. Compared to a shovel... it is about 10x faster than a shovel and runs 2 hours on a tank of gas.
Another useful idea! I had a chain hook welded on to the backside of the bucket. with that, I have several smaller tools that can be applied to it. I hooked a scissors type log lift to the chain, and moved logs. I also hooked a 3ft heavy rope to a "C" clamp welders Vise grip, and lifted 600 pound sections of concrete debris on to my utility trailer. REMEMBER, LEVERAGE IS YOUR FRIEND! (You could also place a motor into a vehicle with it)!
I worked mine hard, rocky crappy hill with brick and cement. Had to replace seals and the main pin. Is tough but you will need hydrolic repairs on cylinder seals. I used it on side of hills and when you are too steep it shuts down to keep you safe. You really need to think your position. I also welded a thumb and picked logs with it.
Hitching to your truck to give leverage, yeah. ☺ If this backhoe is tight enough to feel tree roots, the inability to easily dig through anything in the way can be a plus when digging next to old foundations. Knowing when the digging gets tougher may be a sign to stop and investigate what may be in the way. Using even a Case 580, it may be too late and the foundation collapses when pulling the root. Just a thought - For just a little more money and not needing to dig deeper than 5 or 6 ft, an alternative would be a used small trencher with blade.
I’m a plumber and one of these would be amazing for replacing water mains and small sewer jobs. I would just need a more narrow bucket, 13 inches would be too wide for water mains , sewer jobs that’s perfect.
@@nightflight1454 I’ve looked and I don’t see it. I’d probably find a narrow bucket and have a welder swap out the connection. I’m seriously thinking about this. I hate digging waterlines.
@@JohnWear-s3f l dont even really need one but for $2000 bucks you can't go wrong .I know I could buy a narrow bucket though and fabricate a new connector on it in my shop fairly easily.You might even be able to cut the ends of the bucket it comes with and reweld them back on after cutting it down to size
I move mine around my property by just hooking the bucket on the ball hitch and raising the front to clear the legs. I don't go on public roads so this works for me. Good video.
I bought a bad 1/2” drill motor from em years ago. It just did not even work. I hav3 more trust in them now. A friend of mine bought one of their portable sawmills. He started just to make his own lumber for a barn. He kept adding to it and now he has pretty much a complete saw mill operation in his front yard. He told me he still has not built his barn but has cut enough wood to build 3 other peoples barns.
@@calholli i did. But the store was an hour from my home. I had bought it because I stop in that store when I was on that side of town. So special trip to take back a drill motor. Thus very annoying.
In the early 2000s I built a Caddigger 821. Much heavier duty but even back then it cost more than this HF backhoe. And the engine on my Caddigger was free.
GREAT review! I can see a LOT of really practical applications for this tool, especially for the price. Personally, with a property like that, I am too lazy and would have sprung for a backhoe attachment for the Kubota. My little Kubota BX sub compact *might have done that driveway connection in 3 hours. Ay my age, time is more important than money :)
Cool, I've been thinking of buying one of these. As far as your comment about the break in oil, it is important to change it out. It's got nothing to do about the color of it, it's more to do with letting the engine seat the valves, flush out any gung that may be in it when it was built and smooth out any bugs. It may be fine or not but like you said, why take the chance, oil change is cheap, repairs are expensive.
We bought a house that turned out to need significant drainage installed. Next came the Harbor Freight trencher. About 1900 ft of plastic pipe- 600 of which was slotted, 40 tons of gravel, and a bit of work and our acre of lawn is now well drained. I also helped few friends. I'm close to a mile of trenches now, loaded 60+ tons of gravel into my wheelbarrow. Engine has been flawless. I broke a boom pin trying to move a very large rock. Very reasonable price and quick delivery. Two cylinders have needed new seals which were included with the trencher. I installed a throttle cable mounted below the seat and that is highly recommended. Another valuable upgrade is to replace the engine oil drain plug with an aftermarket hose with cap to make oil changes super easy and clean. Lastly, do yourself a favor and swap out the hydraulic fluid filter base with an aftermarket base that accepts commonly available , inexpensive, full size, high flow, small micron rating filter. Some help in the speed department but mostly for hydraulic system longevity and cheap but higher quality filters. I figure the purchase price plus repairs and upgrades is quite small compared to what it would have cost just for our drainage project. Excellent value for the money. It certainly has limits. Beats a shovel badly, obviously won't keep up with full size equipment. Well worth the money? Hell yes! (I have no relationship with Harbor Freight other than as a customer.)
2:00 there is a reason the owner manual wants you to do an oil change at 25 hours and not to idle up prior to this. The engine has to go through a break-in. As you’re going through this break-in. The bearings are beginning to seat themselves and they need to do it under, very precise conditions in order for the best life of the main bearings. The reason you change the oil and the oil filter is because what you can’t see in there is pieces of bearings have turned to dust and are now caught in your filter. Now, if you buy a brand new car and it has less than 100 miles on it, it has not been broken yet you need to not rot it because a friend of mine blew the engine and his brand new truck. Every new engine has to go through a break-in.
Used to dig graves with a similar machine, would put a wheel barrow next to hole fill it,then haul it off, or a nice pull behind dump trailer behind a garden tractor or atv , just fill and haul them off makes jobs neat and organized
Princess Auto has these for around 5k. Very tempting. That's less than the cost of renting a regular size excavator for a few days once you factor float fees etc, and it's yours to use any time you want.
As a 40 yr mechanic and Senior Master ASE I can assure u that that unit would put significantly less strain on a the parking pawl of a trans than a 30 travel trailer parked on a slope. For goodness sakes.
I used one of these once to do a bunch of little jobs on a work site. Because it was small. When I was ready to move it I would put the bucket onto the hitch of the truck and remove the outriggers and haul it that way. Less stuff to move off for going 100yrds. Lol
$2000 backhoe that I have to run for 25 hours before using its potential, and it takes 3 days to do what can be done in one day with a rental excavator for less? I will just keep renting real machines and will pass this up. Good and honest review on your part bud - I appreciate that.
Ignoring the other idiot who challenged math by asking if it was afraid. The value quickly flips if you need to use a backhoe again within 5 years or if you need it for more than a week total at any point.
same with me. After I dug out my first pond with mine, a buddy offered me $1000 for it which was twice what I paid used for mine. He wanted to do a pond in his yard. Now mine has dug 2 ponds. They aren't fast but can outwork a shovel by miles and if you take your time, you can in fact dig small ponds with them.
I have a suburban lot but we have a walkout basement with crumbling retaining walls. This mini-ex could definitely help me do more than $2k in work in that area. There's other stuff to do in the yard, too.
That's pretty cool. Harbor Freight has stepped up their game in the tool world from what they use to be. Their durability is much better without an exponentially high price increase. Thanks for the video.
I have the unit that Princess Auto sells here in Canada ,basically the same thing. I found that instead of switching from dig mode to travel mode I just piggy-back a ride by putting the bucket onto the bed of the truck or trailer, lift the pegs up so they’re out of the way, slap a chain ok it so it doesn’t slip off and away you go to the next spot. I have to agree, these things are amazing. Even more so if you know what you’re doing. Keep your revs low but high enough that the motor isn’t struggling. The faster you go the more jerky the movements become. Slow and steady makes you look like a pro. 🤛
Ive had mine 9..... years ......never changed the oil....about 400 hours.....runs perfect....no smoke no misses....starts right up with 1-2 pulls. Used it like i stole it from day 1. Probably should change the oil....lol😅....i bought mine specifically to replace about 100 feet of septic pipe.....worked perfect and overall was cheaper than paying someone to do it for me and i have a backhoe i can get most of my money back on
The two stick Redrock version that Princessauto sells is way faster to run, towable backhoes make way more sense than having a backhoe semi-permanently bolted to a compact tractor, locking you out of your 3-point.
The first oil change is never 'dirty' looking, like old oil. The purpose of the first oil change in any engine is to flush out any metal filings from production and the break-in period, so they don't circulate and prematurely wear the crap out of the engine.
Just because the oil didn't look dark or contaminated does not mean it wasn't needed. You cannot see broken down polymers with your eye, nor can you see the wear metals from a break in period. If you SEE metal in your oil that is much more and much larger particles then should come from a break in period of any modern engine. send out a sample for testing and you'll see what I mean..
I have absolutely zero use for one of these. So, how do I convince my wife that I need one? lol
Tell her Kim Kardashian bought one,and she will want one ,she will even post Facebook pics with this thing.🫣🫣🫣
Tell her you need to dig around the foundation to reseal it ..at least that’s what I’m doing 🫡
LMAO... you have to (fake) hurt yourself and say See if I had one I wouldnt of strained my back loading all that(fill in the blanks)...
Can you say flower beds, flower beds, flower beds!! and maybe a goldfish pond or two.
Mid life crisis! Lol.
Common sense says it's not as good as a full-size backhoe or excavator, but it's better than doing it by hand with a shovel
I think it's better than a trackhoe.
Amen brother! Amen!
I inherited one and thought it was going to be junk, well it is junk, the seat is rusted gone it was stored uncovered in pieces outside and the outriggers are rust welded into the channels, I dug it out of a mass of undergrowth. Well I had some time and I like a challenge so I challenged myself to getting it running again. The little motor on mine is a Robin which was a surprise because they are good medium quality engines. I cleaned and rebuilt the carb and that was a no go so I bought a chinesium knock off carb and it started right up. I drained the hydraulic oil and replaced all the rotted rubber hoses, all the hydraulic lines were in still passable condition. I light sanded off the rusted surfaces of the cylinders with 2000 grit and oiled them and expected the seals to get ruined but was just looking to see if it would actually resurrect, never planned on keeping it, was seriously thinking of selling it for scrap weight. It ran good that little Robin engine and I replaced the hydraulic filter and the coupling that broke and gave her new engine oil. Both tires and rims were gone rusted thru so I replaced them with some I had that were close enough to work. Everything was a bear grinding and banging to get the rust off. I took it to an overgrown field and taught myself how to use it sitting on a flat plate welded to a piece of pipe. I cleared the field of small trees and stumps and leveled the ground it worked amazingly well I didn't expect it to be worth a dam but I still have it after fabricating a seat and use it here and there for small jobs. Not bad for what it is that's what was surprising. I'll keep it like it is but if something major fails I'll have a nice little Robin engine to use somewhere else. Took me the better part of a year to get the outriggers oiled and grinded and beat on to release from the channel and then grind some more so they would fit like they should. It basically cost me about $150 dollars in parts the most expensive being the 5 gallons of hydraulic oil.The Kid here makes a good video.
Yeah. Better than hand shoveling. But tbf, it's from harbor freight ie it's cheap china crap. You get what you pay for & id say its probably best to just save the money spent on this rig & invest in better quality equipment..
It's better than a backhoe.. Try to drive a backhoe up a slippery hill and see how far you get.
May not be faster but 2 grand and you own it.
Win win.
$2999
@@Cooter--l._.Y._.I that’s about ten days rental for a similar sized machine where I live.
@@tmzz3609 stop what? Today harbor freight is selling that backhoe trencher for $2999.99 . Today Home depot is renting a 1.5/2 ton mini excavator that can dig to 6.5 feet for $369 a day. They give e you a break if you need longer period. But at the day rate buying the trencher works, if you have 10 more day long jobs . Yes there are better tools for the job posted, bobcat, excavator , pocket dozer….but I was only comparing costs for the machine at hand.
@@tmzz3609 About $300 for a Mini ex and $250 for a small skid steer per day. I just rented both last month. So $550 a day for both which means 6 days rental is more then $3000.
@@user-ch6um1vn8x do some research and figure it out yourself dingus
I've had mine for about 6 years now. I've dug water lines, removed overgrown fence rows and tree stumps. I did break a tooth off while trying to leverage out a stump. Do yourself a favor and replace those Bent Pins that go to the outriggers and axels. They tend to wallow out the holes from the motion. I went to our local Tractor Supply and got swivel handle hitch pins with a definite shoulder that sit level above the holes. I also got tired of getting stabbed and snagged on the ends of all the cotter pins and replaced all those with linchpins. A grease gun is your friend too. Great work!
👏👏👏👏👏! Yay, grease guns and wrist pins are it-always remember to wipe off the dirt from the grease zerks and excess.
i bent the ram for the bucket trying to pull out a stump. Limits found! Been using it for years since, i freakin love this thing!
@@drcovell when I grease mine I leave an extra dab of grease ovet the fitting then wipe it off right before the next greasing as it helps keep the dirt and corrosion from the grease fittings
you buy a new one today if your old one died ?
@@Loan--Wolf Short answer, no. It has nothing to do with the HF backhoe. In my area there are a lot of people importing the mini excavators from China. There are enough that there is a bit of a Price War going on. You can buy a tracked excavator with bucket and backfill blade, in some cases for less than $4k. Id go that route now, just for the added ease of movement.
It beats the hell out of a pick/shovel and wheelbarrel !!!
100%
ive got a gas powered barrow on tank tracks that will move around and dump out almost a ton of dirt, and it climbs hills full. Combined with my backhoe im unstoppable! lol
Where does one acquire a 'wheelbarrel'?
@user-xi6yq8rp6e there's a store to get them right next to the doctors office. Maybe swing by and have them pull that stick out while you're in the area.
@@Bill-g1l what is a wee barrow
The beauty of the situation is that you came in without unreasonable expectations and the patience to let the machine show you what it is capable of. Win win all around.
Yes that is exactly right!
These are extremely capable... However the weakest links are the pivot pins (main boom and cylinders) and bucket tooth pins(causing the teeth to fall off)and the swing pivot pin (as it wears out it will oblong the swing cylinder pin holes). Mine is 9yrs old already and has paid for itself numerous times over and has had all these issues... Also you must run zddp additive in the engine or it will eat its camshaft lobes as it is a flat tappet cam and lifter engine, also avoid ethanol in your fuel like it's a plague as the carb will fail rapidly if this isn't followed.
Use Rotella (diesel oil) it's high in zinc.. Extra lubricant additive...@@dodgeme1986truck
Impressed you read the owner's manual and followed the suggested break-in. 👍
@@prairiefork I read the break in but decided to use my own procedure instead... (kept it under 3/4 throttle varying speed constantly for the first week of use)
@@dodgeme1986truckThat's better for the engine and rings. Best for it to see a variety of Ramps, just not several hours of max load.
Yah I'm impressed someone read the manual. I have a full-size excavator and I've never read opened the manual 😂
whats an "owner's manual"?
I wonder if part of that 'break-in' is getting operators acclimated to working within the machine's sustainable range.
I have one and it is like having 3 -4 young Amish man digging for you. Definitely a huge helper.
And you don't have to cook it dinner!
one thing to know about the first oil change is that its not going to look used but it might have some metal shaving from the manufacturer.
Exactly
Precisely. It's a flush batch that clears out everything from physical particles to manufacturing fluids and protective storage/shipping coatings.
Silly me - And I Thought That the OIL FILTER would actually capture all that manufacturing and milling chunks of debris you guys seem to find in your oil.
In the past I learned from people who's work is to actually research breaking in engines that the reason to change oil early on the first change is to allow the rings, using single viscosity organic lube oil, to polishing the cylinder walls before heavy usage with better multi viscosity oil. You know, getting rid of the well known new engine high oil consumption from unpolished cylinder walls before changing over to multi-grade super slippery oil.
Not really rocket science, eh?
@@joesinakandid528 Except for small engines like that one don't have oil filters. And on engines that do have an oil filter the oil goes through the oil pump (unfiltered) before it goes through the filter. So there is definitely very good reason to change the brake in oil at the recommended time.
@@joesinakandid528 Even cars have a shorter oil change interval for the first oil change for the exact same reasons. Same with full size excavators, backhoes, dozers, etc. You seem really confident for someone who seems to now know much about this.
This first oil change is important but not because of the oil. The purpose is to dispose of all of the tiny loose metal particles that remained after the machining and assembly processes. The theory is that these particles will be flushed into the filter by the new oil and disposed of during that first oil /filter change. There are also solvents and lubricants that are incompatible with the oil.
These metal shavings and chemicals will cause accelerated wear if allowed to stay inside the engine!
Also important is that you do NOT do the first oil change before the manufacturer recommends. You actually need those little particles to break the engine in and seat everything.
@MadMax00215
First time I've ever heard that.
@@toobad9946 Yeah there have been reports of high oil consumption, smoking, and other issues on units that haven't been broken in properly. I never change the oil the first time, on new units I service, until after what the mfg says. It's usually In the owners manual under maintenance intervals. It'll say change oil after 150 hours (or whatever) with an *. Then below it will say:
" * - Change oil and filter after the first X hours."
Small air cooled engines are usually 5 or 8 hours, but others are 25.
John Deere diesels are 100 hours if I recall.
WOW! Looks like fun. I'm in a nursing home and I want one too!
Ha ha ha . You ain't dead yet. Get one .
Great video Thank you for not adding music while you were talking or using the equipment
Beats using a shovel!!
I recently redid a septic field by hand, partly because I'm cheap and partly because I find manual labor cathartic (I don't do much of it in my day-to-day work). But no question, if I had to do it again I would be using one of those! For the price, it doesn't seem like there's a valid criticism to be made.
I’m a service plumber and I’d love to have this for replacing water mains. I’d have to get another bucket and have it made more narrow tho. But like you said, much better than hand digging and cheaper than a rents over time.
Why not just rent a real backhoe or tractor with backhoe and probably get it all done in 2 days or less? $600-700 most likely to rent, but then you don't have any maintenance, and get to use a better machine that's faster.
I hand dug down to my septic tank (40 hours by hand - rocky soil and I wasn't exactly sure where to dig). I then needed to expose more, so I rented a tractor w/ backhoe. I was amazed that I could have done in 30 min what I spent 40 hours doing.
Now I own an old Case backhoe that I bought to do the dirt work for my shop. I got a quote of $10000 for the dirt work. I have about $8000 in the backhoe (I shopped around for months, and bought it in 2017). I spent a lot of time doing the work, but the backhoe paid for it's self if you don't count my time...before my kiddo I had plenty of time to spend doing stuff like that.
@@jameswalker590 Well, the main reason I did it manually was because I'm not technically allowed to repair the fields, so I had to do it on the down low, if you know what I mean! :) This seems like it would be quiet enough to slip under the radar of nosy neighbors where a real backhoe probably wouldn't.
@@JustSomeJoe-dp5rp gotta love neighbors, especially the nosy kind!
I have owned one of these for about 4 years. I have done an INSANE amount of work on it. I have replaced so much stuff on it. It’s still running. I’m still digging on my 5+ acre property. Still taking down trees, digging up roots, moving stuff. It’s actually incredible the amount of work this thing has done. Only down said is that its a little slow and maneuvering is not the easiest either. But like you said there are some places where it works even better than traditional excavator.
Doesn't sound very good if you've had to replace so much stuff on it
@@mediocreman2 you try using a machine for 5 years without replacing anything on it.
@@mediocreman2reliably repaired over five years of regular use is a good sign, not a bad one lmao.
@@viokosovan322I purchased my newest backhoe in 2005. I have over 2khrs on it. I have replaced a hose and a zerk fitting. Oh and of course oil, grease, and filters. But it cost a LOT more than one of these! I use it on a very rugged 40 acre timber lot. I can see the utility of one of these little tow behind units. I can see where it might be able to be used in a location too tight for a real backhoe, but in those situations, I would still rather rent a tiny excavator.
As to these being better than a real backhoe or excavator? No way. That's justification, not reality! Compare the construction and size of the boom, dipper, rams, pivots, pump... but the most important difference is weight.
Ok to be clear. I’m very negligent. I have left it outside for it’s entire life. Almost 5 years and I live in WA where it rains 6 months out of the year. And the “things” that I replaced on it were regular maintenance things that all tractors require. Don’t tell me you’ve had a “real” excavator without changing the hydraulic fluid for 5 years lol… Because it’s actually impossible. You HAVE to replace a list of things including the hydraulic fluid as it has a limited shelf life. As for any real parts, the only thing that I replaced were the “arm legs” which were under $50 each. $120 including shipping and taxes shipped to my door. AND the only reason I believe it was broken is because I let some guys use it and they have not the slightest on how excavator mechanics work to ensure longevity. Like they break things first day the use it… While I been using it for years…
I made one of these 20plus years ago . Same configuration same controls . They are great. Dug footings, trenches etc.. I had plans and bought steel plate and square posts. Brings back good memories..
I bought an old towable backhoe (a Badger, seems to be made by Honda but so old can't get a lot of info). I replaced the leaky Hydraulics/some old lines, put on Predator engine, replaced pump... and so so so worth having. I almost bought the HF one but covid hit and it went on backorder. I am certain I'd be happy with the HF, the overhauled old digger is heavier (can use bigger buckets on it) and overall with repairs cost a little more but these towable diggers work and for ditch digging (what I mainly use it for, have dug over 700 feet of ditches) it is great. Has saved me many thousands at this point.
Ive done lots upgrades to mine
Went to one Hydraulic got a 4 point 1 pump for mine not for speed but efficiency change seat
Bigger return hose extra wheels
I hang blocks off back to keep it from jumping around so bad
Canopy on it for sun they are stronger than you think had mine for 4 yrs done everything with it
I love mine. I have had comments about it's speed but my reply is always "It is mine, and it is a lot better than a shovel" lol
Love the video and the info. 💯 👍👍👍 For wearing a hoodie in the sun, people think I am an idiot for covering up in the summer. I wear hoodies and long sleeves and hoods/hats non stop. I don't mind the sweat and it actually cools you as you sweat into layers. And since I work outside EVERY DAY I think its a good thing to be careful about sun exposure
I hope you have towels for vehicle seats. Especially when it's not your seat.
i absolutely love mine. I bent one of the hydraulic rams (found its limits trying to pull out a stump). I got another prolly 60 hours out of the ram after i bent it and just forced it to close which straightened it back out. Replaced the ram, and no problems whatsoever for years. Ive got an unstoppable tank tracked gas powered wheel barrow thing that'll go straight up crazy steep hills with almost a ton of dirt in it. With those two tools i can do almost anything with my ROCKY ass land.
What is this wheel barrel. Gotta see it. Need one. NC mtns
@@manleynelson9419 look up US ExtremePower 6.5hp its the one that moves 1100 pounds (is what it says, it would do more if you could fit it, i suspect!)
Harbor Freight has impressed me the last few years. There really are some tools with quality and value. I also like the changes you've made to your video production. You'e getting it down.
Thanks! Yeah it’s becoming more and more natural to me. And yeah recently most of the stuff i’ve gotten from there has actually been pretty good!
Some call it Harbor Freight some Horrible Freight but for me it's my go to place for most items, I like most of their products.
You must have got some luck. Most Harbor Freight gear is shite.
i have been buying HF stuff or 20 years now! i dont think the electrical tools would stand up to every day contractor type work but for occasional use seem fine. i havent tried the new ratchets yet the old ones were just so-so for farm use but the sockets and end wrenches held up fine i used the 3/4 in drive sockets on our big disk blade gang nuts with 8 ft of cheater one the breaker bar sockets are just fine!!!!! wired our new shop with their 5000 lum led lites --LOVE THEM have fun all
@@frrapp2366 I did my garage with those 5,000 lumens daisy chain lights also. Very nice. It's handy being able to turn all of them on or just whatever light you want on.
That machine punches above its weight class for sure.
Its he Jake Paul of excavators😅
I’m an excavation contractor, I really would never have a need for that. But we actually have a septic pumper locally that tows one behind his pumper truck. Seems like an awesome setup to me.
Years ago my boss and I seen a baby mini excavator and laughed until they ran it out the back of a pickup and dug up a telephone line in the middle of a drought, the ground was so hard a shovel wouldn't make a mark but it dug with no problem and then they put it right back in the pickup. They said at best it would dig 5 feet but doing phone lines it beats a shovel.
@@howlandexcavating they are more useful than most realize and while folded up fit inside a 5x10 utility trailer they can fit through a 4ft gate/fence opening and can be towed into remote areas via a yard/garden tractor, atv compact tractor, self walked in, or most any vehicle with a hitch. I upgraded to a 2inch ball coupler on mine so that my trailers under 5k lbs all hooked to a 2inch ball.
@@dodgeme1986truck nice. It wouldn’t be very useful for me specifically. I am lucky if I put 40 hours a year on my 8 ton. It’s just too small for my business. but I could really see these things being very useful. Especially for a small landscape contractor, planting shrubs and trees.
It’s s much faster way to uncover a septic tank cover. Using picks and shovels may look “Manly” but it takes time and will eventually wear out your shoulders!
Does he use it to scrape the dirt off to get to the lids of the tanks for pumping ?
That's what I'm buying and will pull it with my compact tractor around my property as needed. It is WAAAAY cheaper than the factory backhoe attachment that's available for my tractor.
Please let the tractor not be a John Deere. 😬
I have two. A Yanmar and a John Deere.
The serial number plate on the John Deere reads, "Manufactured in Japan by Yanmar", so technically I have two Yanmars lol 🤣😆.
and you won't risk breaking your tractor in half.
Save yourself a hard fall, put grip tape on the platform for your feet. It gets extremely slippery when wet, or when walking from wet grass to your backhoe.
Not gonna lie. I kinda want one.
@@joshua_lee732 Me too
Thats the boat i was in for a long time haha
I got a couple projects I am considering renting for… with this I get to keep it lol
I'm not an engineer but I'll bet those axles are only designed to handle the rolling weight of the unit. The moment you start digging snd adding a bunch of additional stress/weight to them, you are probably going to bend an axle. Those outriggers are significantly stronger.
The out riggers are very weak. I’ve broken and re welded mine 3 or 4 times.
My dad built a CADdigger from plans he bought from an ad in popular science. It's the same concept, about this size bigger engine, probably a little sturdier. Very handy digger. Put a foundation under his house, dug a pond, buried water lines
I have one as well. 20 years now and not broken . It has limitations of course but paid for itself many times over. I have three buckets. A trencher, a digging bucket ( a little larger than that shown in the video ) and a scoop about 40 inches wide. The trencher and bucket get the most use. This HB version looks like a really close copy of a CADplans machine.
People need to understand the limitations of these kind of machines, and that the work will simply take longer. Faster/easier than digging by hand, but MUCH slower than a full size machine. People seem to think all machines are the same- I mean, they make different size machines for a reason LOL
ALWAYS throttle up machines while working. Movements will be smoother, and work will take less effort. It grinds my gears when I watch people operating, and they didn't throttle up the machine...
He said the manual tells you to run on low throttle for the first 25 hours. My guess is that the engine and hydraulics need to break in/wear together before putting a full power load on it. May be washing out metal flakes from milling the engine, out from the engine too is my guess, thus the oil change at 25 hours.
Okay thanks, Mr Happy.
I can hear Tim Allen saying RUH RUH RUH MORE POWER! and putting a big block v8 on it.
Bent iron and bursted hoses.. but at least it was cool for 7 minutes.
You're still limited by the capacity of the hydraulic pump, and the small pistons, regardless of the bigger engine.
@@losapriscos7258 *smacks forehead * Man I am old. I forget Tim the TOOL MAN Taylor is hella old school now. ( home improvement) He put a Rocket engine on a riding lawn mower. And of course it went badly. FAW google it.
@@losapriscos7258 ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=tim+the+toolman+taylor+v8+lawn+mower
@@losapriscos7258 Upgrade to a 15hp and bigger pump like I did. Problem solved.
I think it has paid for itself already. We'll done.
Vs renting equipment or hiring someone. Yes very close for sure
The park pin in your pickup’s transmission when hooked up is the only thing holding you when pushing or pulling
I like the included instructional video @ 7:54 on what not to do to your truck.
Teasing. What I have found from HF is that their products - that in the 80s/90s were DEFINATELY purchased as one-offs... you didn't expect more than a single project worth of time out of things (if that).... from '89 through 94, every piece I sculpted for the Vegas strip was done with what I called "disposable" electric chainsaws from Harbor Freight. Then in the mid 2000s, I don't know exactly when, but I literally woke up after a coma, in 2006, and the next thing I bought from Harbor Freight, a 10" cut-off saw... lasted me until just now. Like 14 years. Huge load of work through over a decade of commercial use, and the only thing that went wrong was the actuator for the safety cover broke about a decade later. Easy fix.
I just bought the same brand (Admiral) 12' saw, that is still sitting about 6 feet behind me, not installed on the table yet.
Startling turn-around, quality wise, from the 1990s to now.
A helpful note here. I put an attachment on my trailer hitch that has a 2 inch female galvanized pipe opening on it. This allows me to simply set the mid tooth of the trencher down into the 2in. pipe coupler. I then lowered the extended boom until the outriggers came off of the ground! also, when I use this method, I will have my wife in the truck, and me on the machine. That way i can "back steer" the unit into tighter situations!
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The company should contract you to demo their machinery Dalton. You did such a good job! 👏
I know absolutely nothing about machinery but the way you explain everything in such detail and so clearly .... you have taught me such a lot. In fact, I learn something new from each and every video you share with us on here. Thank you.💐
You have so many skills and your willingness to share your knowledge is such an inspiration to all the young guys out there. You would make a brilliant teacher. You have so much to offer.
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Thank you that’s very flattering! I’m glad you enjoy the videos!
@@marchingmoto You're most welcome, Dalton.🌹
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INice job with the little machine. I am looking forward to your Harbor Freight tool series!👍
@@onamissionfortruth6326thank you thats very encouraging to hear!
Thank you for doing it the right way. I hate when people buy a unit from harbor freight. And completely abuse it. And then try to return it hen they ruin it. If you want a rental unit. Rent one
It's really nice that you are so concerned about a Chinese owned company lol @ U
Be careful.... it has the power to rip the bucket in half.
I would reduce the pressure setting of the relief valve in the control valve body.
There's a direct replacement pump to bolt on the engine which doubles flow rate, but not pressure. Everything moves faster and you can use all 4 levers at once.
That would be really nice
Any info on that ‘direct replacement’ pump? Such as make and model?
Something to note about hydraulics: Pressure makes it work; Flow makes it go.
Not sure why this popped on my feed but dammit now I gotta have one! Great vid by the way. Subbed.
@@HonkyKong777 thanks! Glad you’re here!
Why in the world would you be convinced that you shouldn't idle it up after you've changed out the break-in oil? My god it's a predator engine, rev the shit out of it. Unless you outright neglect those things it's gonna take whatever you can throw at it. Worst case scenario you're out 250 bucks for a brand new engine. The faster you turn that pump the faster and stronger it's gonna dig.
Yep, I used to run frontend loaders and forklifts for 30 yrs gotta Rev them up to go faster. Breakin oil is crappy oil don't leave it in very long
There’s a publication by Continental motors called “don’t baby your engine” that explains break-in on air-cooled aircraft engines. It gave me a new perspective on different engines break-in processes and that what we know from one doesn’t necessarily apply to others.
Personally, I run the absolute shit out of everything I own that has an engine.
@@AlanAshton Drag racers do it all the time with new pistons and rings.
HF woodchipper uses a Predator engine and that sucker runs 110% rpm out of the box!
@@bigboycombo6342 Yup. The point of the article I mentioned explains how being too easy on an engine allows deposits to get into the cylinder honing and rings to not set.
On a distantly related note... I've been on a rant lately thinking that Musk is going to release an internal combustion engine as soon as subsidies for EVs end. The reason I believe this is that the scale of high performance alloys that they're producing and using for SpaceX can yield higher temperature deltas than current metals used in engines, and thus greater thermodynamic efficiency. What if valves didn't burn, pistons didn't melt, and rod caps were at lower risk of letting loose at the top of the exhaust stroke where we're most likely to throw a rod?
The efficiency limiting factor on one of my airplanes is the material that the turbocharger exhaust housing is made from, so I have to manage my fuel burn based on what amounts to the temperature of the hot exhaust going into the exhaust side of the turbocharger. Either I have to run so lean that I start to lose some power, which at least is more efficient, or I have to run extra rich, wasting fuel and adding carbon deposits.
I bought one used for $1500. It was the best investment I ever made.
I had to reinforce the bucket. Even with the small 9HP engine, it has
enough power to rip the bucket apart.
The 25 hr rule is probably hoping owner gains enough proficiency at lower stress that they won't scrap the thing on the first outing.
No. Its standard for small engines. It allows for any burrs to breakoff and have the parts run in.
Theres an engine break in period for cars too, I dunno what they do off the factory line but after a rebuild you should do an oil change within the first 500 mi or so, for the same reason as Kenlie mentions in the above comment. (also in case any debris was inrtoduced while the engine was apart)
Lowering operating pressure will prevent bent cylinder rods and cracked or bent booms, and damage to the bucket. When the limit of force on cylinders is exceeded, bent rods result. Lowering pressure will not decrease the speed of movement, but will greatly prolong the life of the machine. All hydraulic systems have a pressure regulator, and h.p. relief valve designed to prevent damage.
We’re so glad for the update. Thank you 😁
I have one that is over 10 years old now. I've dug 2 little ponds plus all manner of projects such as holes for trees, drainage, cleared rocks, trails, etc. It is slow but works and got mine for $500 used. Had to rebuild a couple of the hydraulic cylinders and replace the lines when I got it but that was only a couple hundred dollars and some labor. Keep the oil changed and hydraulic tank full and it will just work and work. Compared to a shovel... it is about 10x faster than a shovel and runs 2 hours on a tank of gas.
Another useful idea! I had a chain hook welded on to the backside of the bucket. with that, I have several smaller tools that can be applied to it. I hooked a scissors type log lift to the chain, and moved logs. I also hooked a 3ft heavy rope to a "C" clamp welders Vise grip, and lifted 600 pound sections of concrete debris on to my utility trailer. REMEMBER, LEVERAGE IS YOUR FRIEND! (You could also place a motor into a vehicle with it)!
I worked mine hard, rocky crappy hill with brick and cement. Had to replace seals and the main pin. Is tough but you will need hydrolic repairs on cylinder seals. I used it on side of hills and when you are too steep it shuts down to keep you safe. You really need to think your position. I also welded a thumb and picked logs with it.
It's always faster than a pick, shovel and a wheelbarrow
Hitching to your truck to give leverage, yeah. ☺
If this backhoe is tight enough to feel tree roots, the inability to easily dig through anything in the way can be a plus when digging next to old foundations. Knowing when the digging gets tougher may be a sign to stop and investigate what may be in the way. Using even a Case 580, it may be too late and the foundation collapses when pulling the root.
Just a thought - For just a little more money and not needing to dig deeper than 5 or 6 ft, an alternative would be a used small trencher with blade.
Omg…a man who reads & follows the owners manual instructions!
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Something that costs this much, i think its worth it haha
I read the owner manual then tell my husband what he did wrong🤣🤣
First thought was this must be a woman making this comment, guess I am right. I’m not anti instructions. I am anti translated instructions.
@@kwhp1507 It’s a joke about stereotypes.
The oil you took out may have looked the same but probably had micro metal shavings in it from break in, which is necessary for any engine.
I’m a plumber and one of these would be amazing for replacing water mains and small sewer jobs. I would just need a more narrow bucket, 13 inches would be too wide for water mains , sewer jobs that’s perfect.
You could probably get a narrow bucket for it too
@@nightflight1454 I’ve looked and I don’t see it. I’d probably find a narrow bucket and have a welder swap out the connection. I’m seriously thinking about this. I hate digging waterlines.
@@JohnWear-s3f l dont even really need one but for $2000 bucks you can't go wrong .I know I could buy a narrow bucket though and fabricate a new connector on it in my shop fairly easily.You might even be able to cut the ends of the bucket it comes with and reweld them back on after cutting it down to size
I move mine around my property by just hooking the bucket on the ball hitch and raising the front to clear the legs. I don't go on public roads so this works for me. Good video.
I bought a bad 1/2” drill motor from em years ago. It just did not even work. I hav3 more trust in them now. A friend of mine bought one of their portable sawmills. He started just to make his own lumber for a barn. He kept adding to it and now he has pretty much a complete saw mill operation in his front yard. He told me he still has not built his barn but has cut enough wood to build 3 other peoples barns.
You do realize that you could have taken the drill motor back, right. lol
@@calholli i did. But the store was an hour from my home. I had bought it because I stop in that store when I was on that side of town. So special trip to take back a drill motor. Thus very annoying.
In the early 2000s I built a Caddigger 821. Much heavier duty but even back then it cost more than this HF backhoe. And the engine on my Caddigger was free.
The more I watch of this the more I need one
That’s how i felt until i got one lol
As soon as I realized it could crawl, I was in.
Saw 1 of these being used about 60 yrs ago ,plumber had it working as i recall
GREAT review! I can see a LOT of really practical applications for this tool, especially for the price. Personally, with a property like that, I am too lazy and would have sprung for a backhoe attachment for the Kubota. My little Kubota BX sub compact *might have done that driveway connection in 3 hours. Ay my age, time is more important than money :)
I would if it was my tractor but it’s not
Cool, I've been thinking of buying one of these. As far as your comment about the break in oil, it is important to change it out. It's got nothing to do about the color of it, it's more to do with letting the engine seat the valves, flush out any gung that may be in it when it was built and smooth out any bugs. It may be fine or not but like you said, why take the chance, oil change is cheap, repairs are expensive.
Rocky terrain lol we in NH dream of that terrain. I'm running out of places to put the rocks and still have no dirt . Keep having fun!
Here in north central Arkansas we will match you rocks for rocks.
@@vickisavage8929here in north central Missouri, I have to import rocks from Arkansas to have anything other than crushed limestone.
@@silverbackag9790 I rather suspect that there are plenty of people around here who would be willing to donate more than you want!
We bought a house that turned out to need significant drainage installed. Next came the Harbor Freight trencher. About 1900 ft of plastic pipe- 600 of which was slotted, 40 tons of gravel, and a bit of work and our acre of lawn is now well drained. I also helped few friends. I'm close to a mile of trenches now, loaded 60+ tons of gravel into my wheelbarrow. Engine has been flawless. I broke a boom pin trying to move a very large rock. Very reasonable price and quick delivery. Two cylinders have needed new seals which were included with the trencher. I installed a throttle cable mounted below the seat and that is highly recommended. Another valuable upgrade is to replace the engine oil drain plug with an aftermarket hose with cap to make oil changes super easy and clean. Lastly, do yourself a favor and swap out the hydraulic fluid filter base with an aftermarket base that accepts commonly available , inexpensive, full size, high flow, small micron rating filter. Some help in the speed department but mostly for hydraulic system longevity and cheap but higher quality filters. I figure the purchase price plus repairs and upgrades is quite small compared to what it would have cost just for our drainage project. Excellent value for the money. It certainly has limits. Beats a shovel badly, obviously won't keep up with full size equipment. Well worth the money? Hell yes! (I have no relationship with Harbor Freight other than as a customer.)
2:00 there is a reason the owner manual wants you to do an oil change at 25 hours and not to idle up prior to this. The engine has to go through a break-in. As you’re going through this break-in. The bearings are beginning to seat themselves and they need to do it under, very precise conditions in order for the best life of the main bearings. The reason you change the oil and the oil filter is because what you can’t see in there is pieces of bearings have turned to dust and are now caught in your filter. Now, if you buy a brand new car and it has less than 100 miles on it, it has not been broken yet you need to not rot it because a friend of mine blew the engine and his brand new truck. Every new engine has to go through a break-in.
Some new trucks blow engines regardless of how you treat them
I had a truck I bought with 300 miles and at 16,000 miles it started knocking
Used to dig graves with a similar machine, would put a wheel barrow next to hole fill it,then haul it off, or a nice pull behind dump trailer behind a garden tractor or atv , just fill and haul them off makes jobs neat and organized
Princess Auto has these for around 5k. Very tempting. That's less than the cost of renting a regular size excavator for a few days once you factor float fees etc, and it's yours to use any time you want.
They go on sale for 4k.
A 12 VDC power caster would, sure, make moving it around a lot easier. Thanks for the review!
Careful leaving it hooked to a truck. can mess up parking spline in the transmission
As a 40 yr mechanic and Senior Master ASE I can assure u that that unit would put significantly less strain on a the parking pawl of a trans than a 30 travel trailer parked on a slope. For goodness sakes.
That’s really cool! Beats digging by hand!!
Is this where we are suppose to say "Told you so."😂 Another job well done. Like I told you, the more you use it, the better it gets.😉
Thats the truth. I wasn’t totally sure about it at first but its really not bad at all!
I used one of these once to do a bunch of little jobs on a work site. Because it was small. When I was ready to move it I would put the bucket onto the hitch of the truck and remove the outriggers and haul it that way. Less stuff to move off for going 100yrds. Lol
$2000 backhoe that I have to run for 25 hours before using its potential, and it takes 3 days to do what can be done in one day with a rental excavator for less? I will just keep renting real machines and will pass this up. Good and honest review on your part bud - I appreciate that.
You scared of a break-in period? 😂
Ignoring the other idiot who challenged math by asking if it was afraid.
The value quickly flips if you need to use a backhoe again within 5 years or if you need it for more than a week total at any point.
@@codychickadee5095 more likely, they just don't have much use for one. 25 hours could be a lifetime of use for an average home owner...
Man ly machines are the way to go uggg grunt pound chest.
Heh. Yeah, for 2k, this thing has already paid for itself. I don't see the problem. Be useful for many small jobs around homesteads.
I have absolutely no need for something like this but I have an enormous urge to find a project that will justify me buying it
I bought mine because it's better than a shovel. It's pretty impressive what it can do. I've actually had people try to buy it after seeing it work.
same with me. After I dug out my first pond with mine, a buddy offered me $1000 for it which was twice what I paid used for mine. He wanted to do a pond in his yard. Now mine has dug 2 ponds. They aren't fast but can outwork a shovel by miles and if you take your time, you can in fact dig small ponds with them.
I have a suburban lot but we have a walkout basement with crumbling retaining walls. This mini-ex could definitely help me do more than $2k in work in that area. There's other stuff to do in the yard, too.
You never thought that a " CRICKET " could work that well ...
That's pretty cool. Harbor Freight has stepped up their game in the tool world from what they use to be. Their durability is much better without an exponentially high price increase. Thanks for the video.
As of today they are $3000. Boo
Nice! I may get one I need to dig some shallow irrigation ditches on my ranch, I have a backhoe but it digs deep very quickly.
They should sponsor you this was a great presentation
Absolutely. I second that !!!👏👏👏
I wouldn’t mind!
I have the unit that Princess Auto sells here in Canada ,basically the same thing. I found that instead of switching from dig mode to travel mode I just piggy-back a ride by putting the bucket onto the bed of the truck or trailer, lift the pegs up so they’re out of the way, slap a chain ok it so it doesn’t slip off and away you go to the next spot.
I have to agree, these things are amazing. Even more so if you know what you’re doing. Keep your revs low but high enough that the motor isn’t struggling. The faster you go the more jerky the movements become. Slow and steady makes you look like a pro. 🤛
It beats the heck out of a shovel
Harbor Freight should have you review their products since you do such a great job.
Watching it scoot around makes me happy.
That property is already way more valuable now!
I like to think so! Ready to start on the house now
Cool Little Piece of Machinery !!
The wee machine is doing ok
That is a good way to put it lol
Ive had mine 9..... years ......never changed the oil....about 400 hours.....runs perfect....no smoke no misses....starts right up with 1-2 pulls. Used it like i stole it from day 1. Probably should change the oil....lol😅....i bought mine specifically to replace about 100 feet of septic pipe.....worked perfect and overall was cheaper than paying someone to do it for me and i have a backhoe i can get most of my money back on
You are so resilient!
He is careful and smart about taking precautions! He does not hurry but instead takes his time to make sure things go well and accidents don't happen!
@@bthomson I agree with you 100%.
Haha thank you. I try to be!
Definitely more capable than I would’ve thought.
My guy has a pistol in his hip a true patriot 🇺🇸
Thanks so much for this information, I really needed the confirmation that it will do what I want it to do on our property, have many projects for it!
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Amazing little machine ! I got one from jensen because harbor freight was out at the time and I have done amazing things with mine .
You convinced me 100% that this backhoe is worth way more than it costs. Thanks!!
Dang old ford f150 backhoe, beautiful
The two stick Redrock version that Princessauto sells is way faster to run, towable backhoes make way more sense than having a backhoe semi-permanently bolted to a compact tractor, locking you out of your 3-point.
I thought about digging small garden ponds as a business, I would definitely use this for that.
The first oil change is never 'dirty' looking, like old oil. The purpose of the first oil change in any engine is to flush out any metal filings from production and the break-in period, so they don't circulate and prematurely wear the crap out of the engine.
If I didn't already have a bobcat and a backhoe attachment, I'd consider this to be a must-have item.
Just because the oil didn't look dark or contaminated does not mean it wasn't needed. You cannot see broken down polymers with your eye, nor can you see the wear metals from a break in period. If you SEE metal in your oil that is much more and much larger particles then should come from a break in period of any modern engine. send out a sample for testing and you'll see what I mean..