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From watching cobblers, I think their classic approach to the issue you have is to add an additional roughout leather heel counter to the inside and to pad the inside of the tongue with the same.
Put a brass snap on that inside flap! And it adds a pop of shine Also I have to agree on the Viberg take. They make an amazing looking and fitting boot. But you have to get the correct size and their sizing can definitely be confusing! Great job as always
It's really cool to see that you've modified these boots to be something you'll enjoy wearing. Regardless of what some people think of modifying such expensive boots, at the end of the day they are just boots. I would never spend $2000 on a pair of boots, but then again, this is for your business and they are meant to be a heritage piece, not necessarily an every man's boot
i think the changes made to them was a really good idea on your part. it's really neat to see you take something so valuable and risky to modify and make it absolutely 100% your own thing
I personally like the taller shaft. For you removing the strap on a regular engine boot and placing an elastic in there, would prove better to not slide down quite as fast if at all. Years ago I had a pair of harness boots where I went to the cobbler and had him cut off the lower piece if leather holding harness to boot so I can have a chain go under the sole instead of just being fixed in place. If I wasn't in a harness mood, it easily came off. For some time now, I have been contemplating purchasing a pair of Mason Shoes Work western boots. I had a pair back when I was in high school. At the time they sold them by catalog from persons who sold them to you. Now they don't do that, just a direct sale and the price hasn't really changed much over the years.
Great content as always. Really like the look of these, especially the handsewn triangle detail on the gusset. There's just something so appealing about the look of color #8 shell, especially on big panels like a pull-on boot. The subdued purple-brown-red looks so good without being flashy and it looks good with any sort of indigo, olive/OD or brown/tan bottoms imo. An alternative to the engineer's buckled instep strap could be something like what you'd see on a tanker boot, with a higher strap that wraps all the way around and up the boot and sort of combines the instep and gusset strap into one piece. It looks like the buckle sits higher, so you can wear it under your pants leg if you don't want it showing. Eastman Leather and John Lofgren did a collab based on WWII tanker boots with a modern silhouette that looks killer. Nick's also has a tanker boot that's based on the Builder Pro appropriately called the Tanker Pro. I would definitely watch a video about the tanker style if you ever get the chance to make one. The style is cool, being at least as 'out-there' as engineers, and the history is also pretty interesting, as tank crews needed a well-fitting boot that didn't have any laces or eyelets that could get snagged on something in the tank.
Two thoughts, first a snap at the top near the elastic would prevent it from wearing out. Essentially it would hold the top of the boot closed during regular wear. Second add an extra layer of insole to tighten up the fit around your foot, with no external buckle, strap or lace.
Your boots, your taste. :) I think they turned out beautiful and have the same reaction to the buckles of engineer boots. The engineer boots I see in shipyards tend to have those same folds anyway.
Would be cool to see a wear in review of the shark skin sagaras. I know those are a bit dressier, but it would be cool to know what shark leather looks like as it breaks in.
if they sort of fit allready(especially the position of your ball and heel) and are just a bit loose, you could just put in some inserts to raise your foot and make the instep fit you. Just a little hint from a bootmaker. Being leatherworkers you could even make them yourself. Way less work and stress on the material than relasting the whole thing!
Check out German Knobelbecher style boots. Supposedly, the boots are called that because ankles crease (like your boots) is reminiscent of leather dice cups There is a symmetry that’s really nice when leather boots crease like that.
There must be some alternative to the kiltie, on the inside of the boot, over the instep. They glue heelpads, couldn't you glue a kiltie? But it sounds like you're on to a much bigger adventure: lasting! Anyhow, appreciate your tinker's spirit.
you are a smart boy, but you are late. This method has long been invented by a Soviet conscript soldier. this is called -“SHURUP” (SCREW) - folding the boot shaft like an accordion . it is a kind of decoration before the end of the service. in addition, the market has long been full of women's boots with such a top.😉👢👢
I think i would have kept straps on the lower, but made it fit and permanent with those little triangles to hold the strap on each side rather than buckle. But the size issue would be a deal breaker for me anyway.
Not only am I a engineer boot guy. Mine are also lined in shearling lolol. Seriously though it took a few weeks to get make it so I can more easily slip them on. They don't get a whole lot of use in the summer though.
I am interested to see you make a pair of moccasins from scratch, like the genuine original moccasins. My mum and dad made a pair as slippers for us kids one year as xmas presents. An extension of that would be to sell them in kit form for us to put together. Like a croc made with real croc 😁
I think it's cool when people modify their clothes to suit their style and needs, but when you buy a pair of boots for $2000 my expectation would be that they should be perfect out of the box and shouldn't need modification. I understand that these modifications weren't made because of any initial problem with the boots themselves, but it still seems like a waste. It's like buying a really nice pair of japanese denim jeans to cut them down into jorts. It just feels wrong.
Only 7 months behind, but I was interested in learning your feelings of these beautiful boots. I am learning, but I have a question, regarding a good pair of work boots, is it worthwhile to use these expensive oils to condition them? I have been using Dubbin.
I respect the creativity, BUT I feel like I'm now an accessory to premeditated murder 😢 I would've just sold them and bought a smaller pair or bought something else.
You made the boots more to your liking. I am glad you did not throw them away. It's fun to watch you make a pair of boots that are better functional then the orginals...Thanks for another good video..
Excellent video but I have no idea how he thinks engineer boots are dressier than roper boots. They’re both blue collar work boots! Both are no where near being dressy in the slightest. SMH goes to show just how far from classic mensware we are nowadays, which is absolutely understandable but I am just always surprised at what people describe as dress. I once saw someone say black sneakers are dressy and had the same reaction. A black balmoral boot is certainly a dressy boot but they’re just all that common in main stream media and fashion anymore so I get it but wow
Ruined imo.. unfortunately I’ve been there before. Your next pair you will respect the process and time it takes to learn how to buy boots and/or return of a different style you are unfamiliar with. Love your videos!
If you had the means to go back in time lol, would you still make these adjustments or send the boots back and get the correct size? For me i definitely would have sent them back and got my size corrected. You said you did these mods for time restriction i believe? But idk you paid 2 grand for engineers, which is a shit ton of money for boots. I understand the Viberg/horween collab being a big deal but damn 2k?. Everything Viberg makes is hella overpriced. If you like the mods thats really all that matters. You basically went from engineers to cowboy😂.
Idk, Engineer boots for me are the "shitkickers" ofc being European my dress boots are just grandpa's jackboots... but yeah I have to repair my engineers too cus it has the typical heel wear hole...
Viberg isn't THE most overrated boot maker in the world. But they're a damn close second. And as engineers go, I don't get Viberg's vision of it. I'm sure it's well made, since Viberg's build quality has gotten a lot better over the past few years, but the design just isn't for me.
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Hey, it looks like you haven’t cut up a Russell or a Rancourt yet…
Could tanker straps have been another solution involving no elastic?
The Cordovan Accordion
I don’t wanna be a pirate- Seinfeld
From watching cobblers, I think their classic approach to the issue you have is to add an additional roughout leather heel counter to the inside and to pad the inside of the tongue with the same.
With glue or stitching for the heel counter
Put a brass snap on that inside flap! And it adds a pop of shine
Also I have to agree on the Viberg take. They make an amazing looking and fitting boot. But you have to get the correct size and their sizing can definitely be confusing! Great job as always
It's really cool to see that you've modified these boots to be something you'll enjoy wearing. Regardless of what some people think of modifying such expensive boots, at the end of the day they are just boots. I would never spend $2000 on a pair of boots, but then again, this is for your business and they are meant to be a heritage piece, not necessarily an every man's boot
You made a tall & loose Chelsea?
100% would wear this while bike commuting in spring & autumn.
That elastic material is why I will never get chelsea boots. I hate the idea that they will become non-functional whether I wear them or not.
"How to cope with a pair of boots that were way too expensive and not even fit my foot?"
i think the changes made to them was a really good idea on your part.
it's really neat to see you take something so valuable and risky to modify and make it absolutely 100% your own thing
It’s now an *engineered* boot
You did a thing to a boot you didn't wear and now you wear em. Full success
I personally like the taller shaft. For you removing the strap on a regular engine boot and placing an elastic in there, would prove better to not slide down quite as fast if at all. Years ago I had a pair of harness boots where I went to the cobbler and had him cut off the lower piece if leather holding harness to boot so I can have a chain go under the sole instead of just being fixed in place. If I wasn't in a harness mood, it easily came off.
For some time now, I have been contemplating purchasing a pair of Mason Shoes Work western boots. I had a pair back when I was in high school. At the time they sold them by catalog from persons who sold them to you. Now they don't do that, just a direct sale and the price hasn't really changed much over the years.
Great content as always. Really like the look of these, especially the handsewn triangle detail on the gusset. There's just something so appealing about the look of color #8 shell, especially on big panels like a pull-on boot. The subdued purple-brown-red looks so good without being flashy and it looks good with any sort of indigo, olive/OD or brown/tan bottoms imo.
An alternative to the engineer's buckled instep strap could be something like what you'd see on a tanker boot, with a higher strap that wraps all the way around and up the boot and sort of combines the instep and gusset strap into one piece. It looks like the buckle sits higher, so you can wear it under your pants leg if you don't want it showing. Eastman Leather and John Lofgren did a collab based on WWII tanker boots with a modern silhouette that looks killer. Nick's also has a tanker boot that's based on the Builder Pro appropriately called the Tanker Pro. I would definitely watch a video about the tanker style if you ever get the chance to make one. The style is cool, being at least as 'out-there' as engineers, and the history is also pretty interesting, as tank crews needed a well-fitting boot that didn't have any laces or eyelets that could get snagged on something in the tank.
If you put one on your head, what house would they sort you in? These boots are awesome! I would do those mods, if I had those boots.
Renovateur is good stuff, but Saphir also makes a Cordovan cream. I use their neutral Cordovan cream on my Shell shoes, and it works awesome.
Two thoughts, first a snap at the top near the elastic would prevent it from wearing out. Essentially it would hold the top of the boot closed during regular wear. Second add an extra layer of insole to tighten up the fit around your foot, with no external buckle, strap or lace.
Your boots, your taste. :)
I think they turned out beautiful and have the same reaction to the buckles of engineer boots. The engineer boots I see in shipyards tend to have those same folds anyway.
Still waiting for the update video on the cordovan NICKS
Weston's favorite catchphrases "to be honest" and "thanks for everything you do" 😂
Would be cool to see a wear in review of the shark skin sagaras. I know those are a bit dressier, but it would be cool to know what shark leather looks like as it breaks in.
oh me too. I’d be super interested in how the shark wears and what to wear with them
If you’re wearing them now and you didn’t before, then I’d say you saved them! The elastic treatment reminded me of the Nicks Chelsea boots
Ruined them.
Could have shortened the strap.
Thought they looked so good.
I guess i’m glad you didn’t cut them in half.
if they sort of fit allready(especially the position of your ball and heel) and are just a bit loose, you could just put in some inserts to raise your foot and make the instep fit you. Just a little hint from a bootmaker. Being leatherworkers you could even make them yourself. Way less work and stress on the material than relasting the whole thing!
Check out German Knobelbecher style boots.
Supposedly, the boots are called that because ankles crease (like your boots) is reminiscent of leather dice cups
There is a symmetry that’s really nice when leather boots crease like that.
Nice project. Maybe try some double sided carpet tape to hold things in place where you want them
I have a bunch of Vibergs and love them....Such a great product.
There must be some alternative to the kiltie, on the inside of the boot, over the instep. They glue heelpads, couldn't you glue a kiltie? But it sounds like you're on to a much bigger adventure: lasting! Anyhow, appreciate your tinker's spirit.
What’s up with the little gremlin over his right hand should half way through lol 😂
Put some leadther insoles in them, it should fix instep problem.
10:07 nice detail in background hahhah
Those are still beautiful, but keyword is still they were more stunning before. very unique tho very cool this should be an actual design.
Yo those Keebler 2023's are lit AF !
What about a Chicago rivet instead of the sewn on triangles for the elastic bit?
Awesome rundown
you are a smart boy, but you are late. This method has long been invented by a Soviet conscript soldier. this is called -“SHURUP” (SCREW) - folding the boot shaft like an accordion . it is a kind of decoration before the end of the service. in addition, the market has long been full of women's boots with such a top.😉👢👢
This inspired me to get elastic laces for my bean boots! Keep up the great work team
Those look cool! They remind me of the roper style I wore in high school. Of course, they didn't cost $2K. 😃
I think i would have kept straps on the lower, but made it fit and permanent with those little triangles to hold the strap on each side rather than buckle. But the size issue would be a deal breaker for me anyway.
I love those boots! Is a collaboration in the future? I hope so...
I think you saved these! I love the way they look now. So how much does relasting boots cost? I have a pair that need to be done.
Kudos to you taking these boots in this adventure. Would be awesome to see more viberg boots on rose anvil. Like a PNW boot showdown lol
Not only am I a engineer boot guy. Mine are also lined in shearling lolol. Seriously though it took a few weeks to get make it so I can more easily slip them on. They don't get a whole lot of use in the summer though.
They looks awesome, but you should have had them relasted from the beginning!
I am interested to see you make a pair of moccasins from scratch, like the genuine original moccasins. My mum and dad made a pair as slippers for us kids one year as xmas presents. An extension of that would be to sell them in kit form for us to put together. Like a croc made with real croc 😁
It would be great, i you would get a bespoke boot next time and show us, how they are made.
I think it's cool when people modify their clothes to suit their style and needs, but when you buy a pair of boots for $2000 my expectation would be that they should be perfect out of the box and shouldn't need modification. I understand that these modifications weren't made because of any initial problem with the boots themselves, but it still seems like a waste. It's like buying a really nice pair of japanese denim jeans to cut them down into jorts. It just feels wrong.
Love that mirror finish!
Only 7 months behind, but I was interested in learning your feelings of these beautiful boots. I am learning, but I have a question, regarding a good pair of work boots, is it worthwhile to use these expensive oils to condition them? I have been using Dubbin.
I wouldnt have "tried" this on $2k boots but they are yours so you can do what you want with em!
Why not replace the elastic with something like a rollercam strap? Still slip-on, but more secure and still fast to put on or take off.
There were just a pair a boots that needed a good shine.
Would a double D-ring or loop type strap look more casual compared to the buckle strap?
I respect the creativity, BUT I feel like I'm now an accessory to premeditated murder 😢 I would've just sold them and bought a smaller pair or bought something else.
Sorry, but if theses were mine i'd be crying at the outcome. Everyone has their own tastes.
Why not a button, and simply make the elastic strips with an eyelet?
The after looks great. The sheen is temporary
im sure hes aware lol
If you can wear them now and you weren’t able to return them. You saved them. As long as you can enjoy your purchase. It’s a win.
"Accept the suck" - you wasted $2,000.
lets be real here, they look weird 😅
Do a pair of guidi boots
I second this👍🏾👍🏾🔥
Now cut them in half 😂
Get a tongue pad. It will tighten up the instep. It just sticks on.
Great conversion - now please cut them in half 😁
Love the subscribe boot cut at the end!!
Goated content as always 🔥
Should have just got the Wesco Morrison 🤠
You made the boots more to your liking. I am glad you did not throw them away. It's fun to watch you make a pair of boots that are better functional then the orginals...Thanks for another good video..
Not a single person has ever thrown away shell shoes in this condition. What are you saying?
I bought a pair of harness boots, I don’t ride a bike. So I’m thinking of cutting the harness off the boot. Should I cut it off ?
Dude. Rose Anvil is going to end up making boots and shoes within the next five years.
How are the sizing for pull on boots? Like are they still the same as ones with laces. Im a 7.5d and i just go down to 7.
I’ve always worn the same size in boots weather they are lace up’s or pull ons.
Since you already modified it, go further and add a zipper. This will solve all your problems
$2K would have bought you John Lobb Jodhpur boots, but then you'd be right back where you were with straps and buckles :)
5:37 Is it maybe possible to velcro the elastic on and off?
Excellent video but I have no idea how he thinks engineer boots are dressier than roper boots. They’re both blue collar work boots! Both are no where near being dressy in the slightest. SMH goes to show just how far from classic mensware we are nowadays, which is absolutely understandable but I am just always surprised at what people describe as dress. I once saw someone say black sneakers are dressy and had the same reaction. A black balmoral boot is certainly a dressy boot but they’re just all that common in main stream media and fashion anymore so I get it but wow
Ruined imo.. unfortunately I’ve been there before. Your next pair you will respect the process and time it takes to learn how to buy boots and/or return of a different style you are unfamiliar with. Love your videos!
These are going to end up being the weird Barbie of boots 😂
I commented on your first video about those boots, and after all that time, I’m going to do it again. “$2000 down the drain.”
You saved them. I didn’t like the buckles either.
Nah, dude. You ruined that pair of boots. Face facts.
hyperbole much?
Ding ding ding Mint Mobil !
Could always try a pedag tongue pad?
They look great!
Seems like custom boots are kind of a pain in the ass
Lost the pirate look and gained the Three Muskateers look.🤔
If you had the means to go back in time lol, would you still make these adjustments or send the boots back and get the correct size? For me i definitely would have sent them back and got my size corrected. You said you did these mods for time restriction i believe? But idk you paid 2 grand for engineers, which is a shit ton of money for boots. I understand the Viberg/horween collab being a big deal but damn 2k?. Everything Viberg makes is hella overpriced. If you like the mods thats really all that matters. You basically went from engineers to cowboy😂.
Botched.
make this boot and ill buy a pair,
Fantastic content 👌 👏 👍
Mint is Legit. I switched a year ago, no regrets
reminds me of Guidi rolls
Your nicks collab needs to be available year round it’s way better than some of the other ones that have a permanent spot
Idk, Engineer boots for me are the "shitkickers" ofc being European my dress boots are just grandpa's jackboots... but yeah I have to repair my engineers too cus it has the typical heel wear hole...
Which last are those on?? 2050?
You could style these so much better by wearing proper straight fit pants. Engineers and skinny jeans don't work.
Wtf you literally ruined them.
idk why butid looks more like a jodhpur to me
The best boot is one you wear
I wouldnt reccomend trying to relast them yourself. Maybe you can reach out to actual cobblers for this and do a little collaboration.
Viberg isn't THE most overrated boot maker in the world. But they're a damn close second.
And as engineers go, I don't get Viberg's vision of it. I'm sure it's well made, since Viberg's build quality has gotten a lot better over the past few years, but the design just isn't for me.
Westin doesn’t deserve nice things if he’s gonna treat them like this lol. Man needs to get his sizing right.
The boot looks way better