“Two Brands, Two Websites, You’re in for a Disaster” | Dragons’ Den

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2021
  • With 13 years combined experience in the fashion industry, design duo Beth Chilton and Sarah Sleightholm gave a stylish pitch with a fashion show walkway for their two early-stage fashion brands - Hope & Ivy. The duo needs £78,000 in return for a 15% equity stake but will any of the Dragons invest once hearing what Touker has to say?
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  • @guessyou1499
    @guessyou1499 3 роки тому +837

    They continued on “HOPE & IVY”
    -They are still doing well in ASOS
    -Peter and Deborah are still in.

    • @vegn_brit5176
      @vegn_brit5176 3 роки тому +25

      I saw they also sell the brand on Zalando!!

    • @Meg_F
      @Meg_F 2 роки тому +42

      They have expanded abroad as well and doing really well.

    • @reecemichael2700
      @reecemichael2700 2 роки тому +25

      I really think their designs are really attractive!! I'm happy to hear they're doing well.

    • @user-hd8bg8mh8e
      @user-hd8bg8mh8e 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks

    • @gskuzx8591
      @gskuzx8591 Рік тому +5

      Thank you for the comment!

  • @khotsopitso3500
    @khotsopitso3500 3 роки тому +783

    Touka played his cards very well there by throwing everyone off. He just forgot to offer office space. That could have tipped the scales into side.

    • @michaelwallden7261
      @michaelwallden7261 3 роки тому +18

      that is because he has no free space to offer at the momen

    • @LadyHeathen82
      @LadyHeathen82 3 роки тому +5

      *Touker

    • @englishbob5106
      @englishbob5106 3 роки тому +14

      Touka was being greedy ,but at the same time he didn't want the business

    • @susanwaugh3885
      @susanwaugh3885 3 роки тому +30

      @English Bob He wanted the business all right. He had a real disappointing look when the entrepreneur asked if Peter would split with Deborah. He tried to make them believe that they will struggle unless he came on board hence the reason he went in at 40%

    • @khandadonb111
      @khandadonb111 3 роки тому +4

      He should've also mentioned his "contact" in M&S

  • @HHHKingofKings58
    @HHHKingofKings58 3 роки тому +256

    78k is not going to go very far so I'll give you 78k for 40% of your company

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 2 роки тому +11

      That makes sense. If he expects to be diluted by subsequent investment rounds, he would want to start out with a higher percentage so he still has a decent share after dilution.

    • @HHHKingofKings58
      @HHHKingofKings58 2 роки тому +3

      @@thomasdalton1508 Complete non sequitur

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 2 роки тому +7

      @@HHHKingofKings58 It is not a non sequitur. I'm explaining why him thinking 78k wouldn't go very far leads to him requiring a larger percentage.

    • @HHHKingofKings58
      @HHHKingofKings58 2 роки тому +1

      @@thomasdalton1508 No, that statement from him and my comment both have nothing to do with the concern of being diluted.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 2 роки тому +6

      @@HHHKingofKings58 Absolutely they do. If it won't go very far that means he'll soon need more. That will lead to dilution.

  • @nath272
    @nath272 2 роки тому +239

    Nick is the most humble dragon that has ever been in the den. Love him.

    • @fluffyollie
      @fluffyollie Рік тому +11

      He seems to be honest and upfront. Good man there.

    • @xEvilNeverDiesx
      @xEvilNeverDiesx Рік тому +7

      He does seem a nice guy

    • @kirstyboyle2994
      @kirstyboyle2994 Рік тому +1

      I totally agree 👍

    • @liloa3222
      @liloa3222 11 місяців тому +4

      Definitely. James too. James is so respectful to the other dragons and the entrepreneurs

    • @nath272
      @nath272 11 місяців тому +3

      @liloa3222 Agreed. James, the gentleman!

  • @michaellau2544
    @michaellau2544 3 роки тому +478

    Loved Debra’s response: “I stopped at the however.”

    • @glowblank17
      @glowblank17 3 роки тому

      @Michael Lau,
      *May you please explain 😫 🤔 🧐?*

    • @juliet7703
      @juliet7703 2 роки тому

      @@glowblank17 yh u gotta see is said at the end...

    • @sky_afreesoul
      @sky_afreesoul 2 роки тому +2

      actually you're right

  • @tarnveerbassi5786
    @tarnveerbassi5786 3 роки тому +437

    Nick: I’m out
    Sarah: that was quick
    Jenny: not as quick as me. I’m out!

    • @samael5200
      @samael5200 3 роки тому +17

      She was out before the pitch began

    • @albertodemo658
      @albertodemo658 2 роки тому +5

      Nick: I'm out
      Sarah: that was quick
      Nick: that's what my wife also says

    • @lee6023
      @lee6023 Рік тому

      stop picking on jenny

  • @kingzoe5534
    @kingzoe5534 3 роки тому +312

    I know which season an episode is based on how Peter looks.

    • @Irishjay_94
      @Irishjay_94 3 роки тому +2

      😂😂💀

    • @Terry_Frost
      @Terry_Frost 3 роки тому +38

      counting Deborah's wrinkles is also a good indication

    • @X.00896
      @X.00896 3 роки тому +10

      @@Terry_Frost "wrinkles" is a funny way to spell 'neck folds'

    • @maximoo9861
      @maximoo9861 3 роки тому +2

      @@Terry_Frost bit sexist innit, what about counting the men's wrinkkes

    • @Nobody-dm2ol
      @Nobody-dm2ol 3 роки тому +28

      @@maximoo9861 Oh shut up.

  • @ya00007
    @ya00007 2 роки тому +601

    I just think Touker was being EXTREMELY GREEDY. He tried to downplay their success but he got shafted. He knew they wanted him but I'm glad they made the right choice.

    • @jasminegoertler9549
      @jasminegoertler9549 2 роки тому +33

      He knew he was asking for way more than he should have because he thought they would fall for it but luckily they knew that too

    • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
      @user-sf9gs2pg1b 2 роки тому +26

      I think he wanted the other sharks to go out by convincing them not to go in so that they practically had to take his deal or nothing.

    • @tiernodiallo1
      @tiernodiallo1 2 роки тому +3

      @@user-sf9gs2pg1b *dragons

    • @itszenbaby
      @itszenbaby 2 роки тому +49

      Those tactics are so slimy. I remember in an older episode Touker did the same thing, downplaying the size of the opportunity and making the entrepreneur feel like their product needed a lot of work, then he asked for a higher percentage, thinking this method would put other dragons off investing and the entrepreneurs would see him as more valuable. Instead the smart entrepreneurs saw straight through it and didn’t choose Toukers deal. They said it was because he showed a lack of passion for the product, which is how this reverse-psychology technique can backfire.

    • @pauldenby2886
      @pauldenby2886 2 роки тому +9

      @@itszenbaby Precisely... Touker played himself.
      And OOF that 40% though... what a vampire.
      Especially considering such a high turnover with good margins.

  • @Jamie_Winsh
    @Jamie_Winsh 3 роки тому +143

    Even though Toucker pointed out many harsh negatives he never actually declared himself out so he was clearly always interested. These two are very passionate and have done very well very quickly

    • @chique2008
      @chique2008 2 роки тому +2

      they are all sly fu***rs at the end of the day

  • @sire5582
    @sire5582 3 роки тому +238

    Love how the Dragon's pretended to buy Touker's bs lol. Especially Peter haha. Touker though, 40%??? Comedy gold.

    • @tc5290
      @tc5290 3 роки тому +22

      Toukers been watching UA-cam and seeing the comments “Peter putting businesses down to make himself the hero”, Trying peters tactic, but failing lol

    • @Black.Sabbath
      @Black.Sabbath 2 роки тому +1

      @@tc5290 LMAO

    • @apocalypsed8
      @apocalypsed8 2 роки тому +1

      Or were you believing Peter acting like be believed Touker to be able to demand a better offer? :P

  • @davidmcloughlin6547
    @davidmcloughlin6547 3 роки тому +258

    Touker, as usual, overvaluing his worth and pricing himself out of a deal.

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 2 роки тому +7

      He's the dragon I'd pick for my business.

    • @chique2008
      @chique2008 2 роки тому +14

      @@roberthutchins4297 last I would pick

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 2 роки тому +13

      @@chique2008 They all seem pretty good to me.
      Touker, I think, would stick around and make a real effort to get you going. I like him - but then, I like all the regulars. Just a matter of luck.

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 роки тому +2

      @@roberthutchins4297 , me too.

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 роки тому +4

      Overvaluing?? He is a leader in that area.

  • @ya00007
    @ya00007 2 роки тому +51

    The arrogance of Touker trying to dismiss the business so that the other dragons won't be interested so that he can come in for the jagular. He has lost all credibility. How can anyone work with him?

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 роки тому +2

      He has not lost his credibility.

    • @sexpeare8947
      @sexpeare8947 2 роки тому

      lol? u don't know what u're talking about buddy

    • @Black.Sabbath
      @Black.Sabbath 2 роки тому

      @@sexpeare8947 And you do, anime freak?

    • @aa4488
      @aa4488 Рік тому +1

      Peter does that every time though

  • @UTubeTulip
    @UTubeTulip 3 роки тому +61

    Nick was probably thinking, I could have driven home by now by the time they reached a deal.

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 2 роки тому +111

    I also thought Touker was playing games by trying to diminish this enterprise. When two other Dragons saw through his ploy and made an offer, Touker stepped up with an offer of his own.

  • @4mySweetheart369
    @4mySweetheart369 2 роки тому +60

    Touka was being greedy and conniving. He tried to make them feel their success was meaningless and get them to a vulnerable state so they'd be willing to make a horrible deal.
    It's one thing to be shrewd in your business deals, it's another thing to lie to someone just to get what you want out of them.

  • @easycoding8255
    @easycoding8255 2 роки тому +75

    They made the right decision. Touker was being too greedy and he would've been a nightmare to work with. Peter and Deborah let them keep way more equity and they'll be more than capable of sorting out their problems.

  • @alienmonkey6304
    @alienmonkey6304 3 роки тому +87

    Peters reaction when touka makes an offer lol

  • @yaffajaff
    @yaffajaff 3 роки тому +181

    If Touker hadn't been on an ego trip he'd have had it if he'd matched Peter's offer, or maybe even at 30% with a buy-back deal

    • @michaelsmith953
      @michaelsmith953 2 роки тому +18

      when you have lots of money/success sometimes you forget how much of your own success was luck and not skill.

    • @annettesjoy
      @annettesjoy 2 роки тому

      They could of negotiated

  • @FK-mx8hy
    @FK-mx8hy 3 роки тому +23

    When touka cringed at “net-a-porter” 😂 the shaaaaade

  • @alexcooper849
    @alexcooper849 Рік тому +13

    "Sorry I stopped at however"
    Gotta love how Deborah finished of touker you can visibly see his ego shatter 😂

  • @engineclinic
    @engineclinic 3 роки тому +31

    Touka would have been the worst choice. Never go in business with someone who says you did everything wrong when the show you apparently did something right.

  • @escfxp
    @escfxp 3 роки тому +58

    Hilary should have been on the show and made an offer. They could start a new shoulder pad brand.

    • @Landrew0
      @Landrew0 2 роки тому

      Hilary was a bit of a looker in her earlier years.

    • @lose8447
      @lose8447 2 роки тому

      @@Landrew0 also Chicago bulls best quarterback

    • @vamvam7690
      @vamvam7690 Рік тому

      @@lose8447 that made me laugh more than it should’ve 😅

  • @JonasHamill
    @JonasHamill 3 роки тому +38

    Touker Big Bollocks was reading from Peter's usual playbook here. Satisfying when it backfires

    • @bluceree7312
      @bluceree7312 3 роки тому +5

      One of the brands failed, so Touker was actually right about that.

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 2 роки тому

      @@bluceree7312 Without his investment. Who knows what difference he would have made.

  • @dan003
    @dan003 3 роки тому +46

    A great deal for the ladies. Access to two extremely valuable contact books, millions of views worth of advertising on UA-cam and BBC, and the opportunity to substantially increase their sales for for just 20% long term. Definitely a gamble worth taking. Given the interest though maybe they could have pushed back to taking back 7.5% off each Dragon after they are repaid, but in any case they'll end up a lot richer for this deal.

    • @3DHDcat
      @3DHDcat 3 роки тому +3

      This happened long time ago

    • @Black.Sabbath
      @Black.Sabbath 2 роки тому

      And the Dragons will end up even richer.

  • @3umphbywill313
    @3umphbywill313 3 роки тому +23

    Tukor was DEFINITELY up to something!🧐

  • @davidevans3175
    @davidevans3175 3 роки тому +102

    They should have said to Touka, "a lot of people stand here and ask for money with little sales and a lot of hope. We're here with a half-million pounds of proof which you call luck. If we're that lucky, you should make us an irresistible offer immediately before the other Dragons start talking."

    • @Frosty-Lemon
      @Frosty-Lemon 3 роки тому

      @dragons deñ 0.0

    • @AlexanderJordan-sv7nm
      @AlexanderJordan-sv7nm 3 роки тому +25

      If you could come up with that on the spot then I applaud your wit and articulation

    • @annelyceyawingu6678
      @annelyceyawingu6678 3 роки тому +2

      Can we be business partners please?😄

    • @jamesanthony4946
      @jamesanthony4946 3 роки тому +1

      Touka's response, "Luck tends to run out..."

    • @MonkeyBizness420
      @MonkeyBizness420 2 роки тому +1

      You can make 1,000,000.00 but if profits are less than 2% then are you really winning

  • @kylenetherwood8734
    @kylenetherwood8734 Рік тому +13

    Crazy that Deborah got a better deal than she asked for. Can't think of another time that that has happened.

  • @thewalkyries7538
    @thewalkyries7538 2 роки тому +4

    Nick: you come out of the lift too fast, and for that reason, I'm out

  • @magusxxx
    @magusxxx 3 роки тому +81

    Does anyone else wish there was a show where they would pick a Dragon this way? Have them stand there and justify why they should be on the show and get a paycheck.

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 3 роки тому +14

      Haha, that sounds good.
      edit:
      Jenny: Im out.

    • @davidporter4162
      @davidporter4162 3 роки тому +2

      The whole point is that the Dragons have built businesses worth hundreds of millions of pounds and invest tens/hundreds of thousands week after week. No interview needed!

    • @colmwhateveryoulike3240
      @colmwhateveryoulike3240 3 роки тому

      Their money is the justification. Not totally accurate, but accurate enough in business.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 3 роки тому +2

      well how many rich people like that are there in the uk?
      It's not your regular chavish mum Ann-Marie on child benefit and unemployment benefits who's normally shopping at the likes of primark and topshop with her daughters Ashlee, Kayleeegh and son Kyle (each child with a different father, often unknown), is it

    • @HHHKingofKings58
      @HHHKingofKings58 3 роки тому +1

      @@Albimar17 You might want to check which demographic is responsible for the most children out of wedlock

  • @JCRoberts97
    @JCRoberts97 3 роки тому +85

    Tourker is too greedy and always fails when he wants near half of the business

    • @Henry-cf4oo
      @Henry-cf4oo 3 роки тому +9

      He doesn't get out of bed for 2% 🤣🤣🤣

    • @halfvolley11
      @halfvolley11 3 роки тому +2

      its a risky business, not worth investing with ow equity

  • @calibcrockett
    @calibcrockett 2 роки тому +11

    I think their quick success at Asos or however you spell it is a big red flag 🚩. One of them said she worked at the company for 3 years and now she runs her own company and their only purchaser happens to be the company she worked for. I feel she has a relationship with the buyer at Asos and is the reason they've been able to sell an unknown brand in such high quantity so quickly, the real work would be selling to other companies that she doesn't know anyone at. Just very sketchy imo and surprised none of the dragons brought it up.

    • @alecjuho289
      @alecjuho289 2 роки тому +2

      they're actually selling at Zalando and several other retailers atm

    • @TheodoreBrosevelt
      @TheodoreBrosevelt 9 місяців тому +1

      That's called having connections

    • @graceolinares7364
      @graceolinares7364 Місяць тому

      This is funny. If you have connections, nothing wrong to use it to help your business. Retail industry is a very competitive business, brand awareness and product visibility are the key to generating more sales. If you know an avenue on how to improve those 2, wouldn’t you take it?

  • @joegemreyes7640
    @joegemreyes7640 3 роки тому +18

    Touka has a fashion brand and he knows a competition when he sees one

    • @Henry-cf4oo
      @Henry-cf4oo 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed, he knew what he was doing.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 3 роки тому +94

    "there's no brand or retailer focusing on affordable and fashionable workwear"
    Yes because every business wants their products to be unfashionable

    • @remchaill9898
      @remchaill9898 3 роки тому +28

      Brands focusing on workwear have a strong tendency to be stylistically overly conservative and, well, boring. Fashion-forward brands don't want to be seen focusing on workwear, as its seen as a mundane sector. Fashion-forward workwear is actually a very under-serviced niche. Probably why Hope & Ivy has been hugely successful.

    • @ajjo6987
      @ajjo6987 3 роки тому +10

      That’s not true . There are plenty of jobs were you don’t need to look like steward and it is really difficult to buy some good looking clothes without spending hundreds 🤷‍♀️I wasn’t even able to find nice looking white blouse it would look good on me without paying 60£ up which I think it is ridiculous

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. 3 роки тому +3

      My point is that opinion should not be presented as a statement. It's extremely misleading.

    • @Rocketman10057
      @Rocketman10057 3 роки тому +3

      @@TomNook. in your opinion

    • @another_day4783
      @another_day4783 2 роки тому +1

      @@ajjo6987 menswaer is even worse its literally just shirts and trousers

  • @Dieterbe
    @Dieterbe 3 роки тому +8

    These girls need to work on their poker faces. The way they lit up each time they got an offer LOL 😂

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, but that was the best way to let Touker Suleyman know that he had competition. Not that that had much effect!

  • @chairslots3792
    @chairslots3792 2 роки тому +29

    Every single time I watch Dragons’ Den I wonder how Touker has managed to get where he is.

    • @michaelsmith953
      @michaelsmith953 2 роки тому +26

      when you have lots of money/success sometimes you forget how much of your own success was luck and not skill. the best business people and multimillionaires got there from luck, sure they worked hard but 50x as many people also worked just as hard but werent as lucky

    • @maverickstclare3756
      @maverickstclare3756 2 роки тому +12

      @@michaelsmith953 That phenomena even has a name: survivorship bias

    • @the_endling
      @the_endling Рік тому +6

      Sweatshops

    • @jeffstrand601
      @jeffstrand601 Місяць тому

      He hasn’t, his success is vastly overstated

  • @moogleking
    @moogleking 3 роки тому +13

    Touka was scheming for his high equity all along lol

  • @brettsinclair6802
    @brettsinclair6802 2 роки тому +9

    Peter saw right through tuka’s tactic

  • @MADMAX7330
    @MADMAX7330 3 роки тому +32

    Sneaky lil Touker.. Bad mouths them all the while, just so he can gouge them and shamelessly ask for nearly half the business 🙄

  • @xcalliexbabex
    @xcalliexbabex 2 роки тому +23

    This brand is doing so well! I see them everywhere I bet Touka is kicking himself!!

  • @PetersonZF
    @PetersonZF 3 роки тому +19

    I'm glad they went with Deborah and Peter. I'd never want to do a deal with Touker, especially after he insulted my business as a bargaining tactic. If I were an entrepreneur, I think I'd happily work with almost any other Dragon.

  • @masterblast4069
    @masterblast4069 3 роки тому +21

    7:59 play 0.5x speed.
    Like being at the pub with Touker.

  • @skeemostrife
    @skeemostrife 2 роки тому +10

    Touca definitely insulted his way out of a deal. If I was in there shoes, after his scathing assessment of their success...I wouldnt have wanted him to invest, and certainly not for 40%

  • @foreignwarren7361
    @foreignwarren7361 2 роки тому +11

    Nick's wife won't want him working with models...smart man.

    • @NancyBoi1984
      @NancyBoi1984 2 роки тому +2

      Is he that smart ? Hes clearly married a very insecure woman

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 2 роки тому +1

      WHAT?. A rather immature and unnecessary intervention.

    • @Black.Sabbath
      @Black.Sabbath 2 роки тому

      @Stabswache Serious?

  • @nershano
    @nershano 3 роки тому +82

    Alter is done, no longer stocked on ASOS and no social/website updates in 4 years.
    Touker was right.

    • @dcwatashi
      @dcwatashi 3 роки тому +15

      Yes I was wondering about that. Because these shows happened quite some time ago

    • @freezasama5802
      @freezasama5802 3 роки тому +25

      Well Touker also stated that Uber would use bikes instead of taxis and Voila now we have Uber eats

    • @Ccccc-mi3tr
      @Ccccc-mi3tr 3 роки тому +45

      Alter seems to have closed but their other brand hope and ivy are on ASOS, they got into Zalando and are in loads of other retailers their social is also active with 93k followers

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 3 роки тому +2

      But they´ve got into Harry Ramsden's!

    • @retrovideos1445
      @retrovideos1445 3 роки тому +6

      Used to work for the company that’s your only customer - that’s always a bit fishy

  • @moohHa22
    @moohHa22 3 роки тому +33

    Omg did you see the look on their model’s faces when Sarah and Deborah were looking at the clothes? 😂😂 smile girlies, you’re on camera!

    • @joannegutteridge3843
      @joannegutteridge3843 2 роки тому +7

      I saw that as well. they looked unimpressed and snobbish. 😒😁

    • @DemocracyManifest
      @DemocracyManifest 2 роки тому +5

      They're models, they aren't known for having any personality or endearing character.

    • @jay-dubdubb2292
      @jay-dubdubb2292 Рік тому

      They are just the "Warm Bodies" used to display the garments!

  • @coachonyoutube99
    @coachonyoutube99 3 роки тому +17

    Just love Deborah M, she is the Dragon

  • @thedappercook
    @thedappercook 3 роки тому +1

    Love these older episodes

  • @CKD3332
    @CKD3332 3 роки тому +8

    I would only go to the Dragon for Deborah and Peter, they are clearly the best. Touka slags them off cause he was jealous of their success and then makes a ridiculous offer.

    • @twosilk
      @twosilk 2 роки тому +2

      Jealous of their success?? Don't be silly

    • @Black.Sabbath
      @Black.Sabbath 2 роки тому +1

      @@twosilk Intimidated by their potential success.

  • @commanderkeen3787
    @commanderkeen3787 3 роки тому +37

    *LUNCH TIME. WOOO WOOO*

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 3 роки тому +1

      I had just started eating lunch when I noticed this was uploaded. What luck.

  • @DeepakOjha
    @DeepakOjha 3 роки тому +26

    Sarah is so graceful. God damnit, so much to learn from these people!

  • @elliottgreco6474
    @elliottgreco6474 11 місяців тому +1

    12:52 quite rare for Peter to get shocked by Touker like that

  • @johnmc3862
    @johnmc3862 2 роки тому +6

    Outrageous of Touker to say it was luck.

    • @MonkeyBizness420
      @MonkeyBizness420 2 роки тому

      What he meant was "a lot of knee pads were used"

  • @miraclemiler71
    @miraclemiler71 2 роки тому +8

    The last model to walk in and do a twirl is stunning.

  • @dakotaretherford4384
    @dakotaretherford4384 5 місяців тому +1

    My first thought when I heard her was Ulta is already a name

  • @arpitanand5150
    @arpitanand5150 2 роки тому +2

    Touker sitting was thinking I will slightly play willl give hard time and then pretend to rescue. then ask any amount. sprry bro wont work

  • @x_dolly666_x
    @x_dolly666_x 3 роки тому +10

    3:53 those cuff links

  • @YouthPotential
    @YouthPotential 3 роки тому +3

    Really pleased for these two

  • @taherajenz
    @taherajenz 2 роки тому +2

    Touka: you girls are stretching yourself very wide 😛😛😛😛

  • @iranicus3393
    @iranicus3393 3 роки тому +2

    Good for them, hope things are going well ^^

  • @cuttlefisch
    @cuttlefisch 3 роки тому +5

    Hope it continues to work out for them.

  • @chriswilson5199
    @chriswilson5199 3 роки тому +19

    Touker should of kept his mouth shut after giving it loads. Making an offer like that. It's embarrassing.

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 2 роки тому

      Your reputation as a world class entrepreneur precedes you, never heard of you, you must be as publicity shy as you are wealthy...

  • @StandardGoose
    @StandardGoose 2 роки тому +3

    I'm fascinated to know what kind of work someone would do wearing the outfit that third model was wearing for it to be considered "work wear".

  • @CaptainShaneOw
    @CaptainShaneOw 3 роки тому +26

    half a million, most of it came from 1 client. It is pure luck.
    If you are in trading, you will agreed with Touker.

    • @okanakdogan4203
      @okanakdogan4203 3 роки тому +13

      it's more probably a friendly relationship with an ex-colleague who was the buyer at Asos at the time

    • @gokuafrica
      @gokuafrica 2 роки тому

      Traders are the worst vermin. They have got no accountability. Even an average person who buys basic index funds outperforms 99% of traders. Point being, investing and building a company is very different from trading and superior as well. There's a concept of early adopters in the startup market. These are the first entities that risk doing business with a young company. The company ofcourse gives them VIP treatment for being early. What you call lack of diversification, I call a leverage. That company is a big conglomerate and the fact that they are doing business with this small and young company gives more credibility to these guys. Touka was just haggling here but traders won't understand that. They would rather invest in 40 companies that they know nothing about than one company that they understand because diversification and risk management 😂. Don't compare venture capital and investing to trading. Count how many billionaires have gotten there by trading and how many have gotten there by creating a product and you'll see what I'm talking about. You guys bring nothing to the table.

  • @Josh_TO
    @Josh_TO Рік тому +1

    Tukar went overboard with the lowballing. Glad they called his bluff.

  • @zombie5017
    @zombie5017 2 роки тому +4

    im surprised they were able to negotiate the dragons down 2% each, others have failed to do so.

  • @cdan3135
    @cdan3135 7 місяців тому +2

    Touker was just extremely jealous of their success and wanted to act like he was the daddy and rip them off but fairnplay to Peter for stepping in 👏

  • @louvienne531
    @louvienne531 2 роки тому +2

    Can I just say I love the red shoes she had on 💖

  • @fairlyvague82
    @fairlyvague82 2 роки тому +2

    02:52 🧐 Ooooooh, someone is well jell of Sarah!

  • @YTGhostCensorshipCanSuckMe
    @YTGhostCensorshipCanSuckMe 2 роки тому

    Does the last model come with the deal ?

  • @risiateb
    @risiateb 2 роки тому +1

    They said work wear. What was the 3rd model wearing?

  • @olaoluwaadeyemo6939
    @olaoluwaadeyemo6939 3 роки тому +9

    Touker: 78k is not enough...
    Yet he offers the same amount for about times 3 the equity.
    ...... Peter Jones is still my favorite. ❤️

  • @ashleyj0
    @ashleyj0 2 роки тому +1

    For a minute i was like Ulta?! That's a cheapy fashion store in the us

  • @WinstonBuford
    @WinstonBuford 3 роки тому +9

    peter didnt even get up to look

    • @originalunoriginal4055
      @originalunoriginal4055 3 роки тому +3

      Wasn't expecting him to try on the outfits, were you?

    • @Henry-cf4oo
      @Henry-cf4oo 3 роки тому

      @@originalunoriginal4055 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @user-ve5qn7zr4p
    @user-ve5qn7zr4p 2 роки тому +4

    The way touker looks around as if he clever and outsmarted everyone

  • @JimmyTRUELOVE
    @JimmyTRUELOVE 3 роки тому +5

    that girl with dark hair - the model, is so fit.

    • @bash547
      @bash547 3 роки тому +1

      Jenny’s not in this episode

    • @pauljulian2963
      @pauljulian2963 3 роки тому

      Jenny is the most beautiful. The way she says she's out. pure sexiness.

  • @tooshlong
    @tooshlong Рік тому +2

    Toukers facial expression at 14:11 (the very long blink is a big tell) tells you that he was gutted at his offer being overlooked. He played that badly.

  • @nabhanh7334
    @nabhanh7334 2 роки тому +4

    Touker's shot at 10:50 is meme worthy

    • @claire6568
      @claire6568 3 місяці тому

      He literally looks like this emoji 😏

  • @Black.Sabbath
    @Black.Sabbath 2 роки тому +1

    Song?

  • @adhc8560
    @adhc8560 2 роки тому

    I just checked out their website. I really like their clothes.

  • @nicholassimon1419
    @nicholassimon1419 Рік тому +2

    I can’t even express how annoyed I am that Peter didn’t make some kind of “This isn’t the first time women have been disappointed by Nick finishing too quickly” joke.

  • @michaelsmith953
    @michaelsmith953 2 роки тому +1

    why not just put the brands under 1 larger brand XD on the same website?

  • @Bleach420
    @Bleach420 3 роки тому +7

    Good day fellow DD addicts!

  • @nkrav7160
    @nkrav7160 Рік тому +3

    Touker tried to get Peter with his own tactic. Wrong move sir. 😂

  • @verdipoggi7434
    @verdipoggi7434 2 роки тому +5

    Really good entrepreneurs. Very happy for them :)

  • @susanwaugh3885
    @susanwaugh3885 3 роки тому +5

    Deborah admits she doesn’t have the expertise in clothing retail yet they go for her and Peter instead of Touker! This show gets on my nerves at times. It’s all about Peter and Deborah or if not touker if everyone else goes out. Why do they always keep choosing Deborah when other dragons are sometimes a better fit for the entrepreneurs businesses. The show might as well just have those two on, and get rid of the rest. It’s so annoying

    • @alfydarkdeadly
      @alfydarkdeadly 3 роки тому +8

      I honestly think that ppl don’t have faith in touker.
      Deborah and Peter really sound like they know that they are talking and come
      Across as they can get things done.
      With touka I don’t think he makes the candidates feel that. Oddly enough he’s the richest dragon. But I think pll think he doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    • @jimmytyan9791
      @jimmytyan9791 2 роки тому +1

      @@alfydarkdeadly touker? Richest dragon? 🤣 pretty sure thats Peter Jones

  • @gamewithadam7235
    @gamewithadam7235 3 роки тому +4

    Lmao Toukar's bluff got called.

  • @nicetry7409
    @nicetry7409 2 роки тому

    the music lmao

  • @theovolz3073
    @theovolz3073 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, this must be the least click-baity title I’ve seen for a Dragon’s Den episode.

  • @DanyaalButt
    @DanyaalButt 5 місяців тому

    Peters reaction to the 40% offer 😂

  • @christopherbako
    @christopherbako 3 роки тому +1

    Yay, happy ending!

  • @blacksunshine7485
    @blacksunshine7485 3 роки тому +4

    The catwalk music was scary

  • @henryfullman9171
    @henryfullman9171 2 роки тому +10

    All I can say is bloody well done girls !

  • @terranceparsons5185
    @terranceparsons5185 2 роки тому +1

    We came here for Touker, Tourer makes an offer, they go to the wall and you hear "shall we see if Peter and Deborah will split?". What is the point of having the other 3 dragons?

  • @CivilPulse
    @CivilPulse 3 роки тому

    I’ve looked them up and it’s mostly floral dresses with weirds cuts, doesn’t look at all like something you could wear in an office (edit: unless you’re the boss) 😅

  • @AlwaysBolttheBird
    @AlwaysBolttheBird 2 роки тому +7

    Peter and Deborah deals are always the best

  • @Imageoneonone
    @Imageoneonone 2 роки тому

    Confidence of new entrepreneur can't be influenced by just reminding them about market situations

  • @theactualcanadian8300
    @theactualcanadian8300 3 роки тому +32

    Nick Jenkins- I can’t offer you much help because it’s not my sector, so I’m out
    *dramatic music sting*
    Narrator- A FATAL BLOW TO THE ENTREPRENEURS

    • @freezasama5802
      @freezasama5802 3 роки тому +4

      For a dragon that has nothing to do with the market the entrepreneurs are seeking it's a very fatal blow

    • @intrepidtomato
      @intrepidtomato Рік тому

      yeah so dramatic. It is a very good and honest strategy to say you are not interested in a business even though it is promising because it is not in your line, loved that

  • @maoaomar4074
    @maoaomar4074 Рік тому

    I checked their website. Beautiful clothing really

  • @RhyfelwrMorgannwg
    @RhyfelwrMorgannwg 3 роки тому +4

    Touker is greedy but his words were wise. Last nights new episode, he offers £50k for 90%... so he’s basically giving himself £45k, but to be fair just like this he could do a lot for them with a big share. It just invites other dragons to come and undercut him if they like the business

  • @annettesjoy
    @annettesjoy 2 роки тому

    Now I know I am different than most of the people on this thred 😁 but...
    When I was a teenager, I loved Shaun Cassidy and Rex Smith. Now I am in my 50's and I think Touker is fantastic!! I would of negotiated with him. He has so many good qualities without any arrogance. His wife is one lucky lady.