You're not the first person I've heard say that they are a little slower. I am currently riding on the Vee Speedsters, which seem to be more for just the street, and love them. They are so quiet and I actually gained 1mph on the top end. They seem like they coast forever. I've had them for a couple of months now and they have made me a fan of Vee tires. Thanks for the review.
I’ve heard great things about the speedsters ! As much as I would like the extra speed I love taking all the trails in my neighborhood so having a bit more weight and grip worked out for me well ! Thanks for watching !
@@MeedersPEVS but, adding some weight should just mean you lose some acceleration. Why would top speed go out the window, unless the tire dimeters are smaller then the factory stock tires? I mean, how much speed loss? I mean, 3 mph out of 20 means a 20mph bike now only goes 17, and that is a significant drop in top speed (a good 17% loss in top speed). That is a massive price to pay for loss of top speed, don't you think? Now it is possible that adding weight to the bike is different then adding rotational weight to the tires. Since angular momentum goes up as the square, then perhaps there is a issue by adding weight to the rotation of the tire. So, I guess we need someone to explain the difference between adding few pounds to the bike (which in general will NOT change top speed, but only require one longer to reach that top speed) vs that of adding weight to rotating tires. So, we need MUCH MORE TIME spent on the top speed issue, since MANY would and will be disappointed if top speeds are effected by such huge amounts being noted here. Hey, buy these tires - but leave out that you lose 3-4 mph top speed? Really!!!! ????? We not talking about a 2% or even 5% loss of top speed, but over 15% such as being noted here is a HUGE elephant in the room, don't you think?
There is only one test that matters for those of us who live in goathead country and that is goathead imperviousness. I’ve learned that there are two things that matter and no 20x4 tire I’ve seen yet has them. The first is thickness of the rubber in the footprint zone has to be thick enough to take the longest thorn on a goathead which is about 5mm where I live. And the second thing is that the sipes have to be narrow so that a goathead can’t make it into the “canyon” between the “mesas” of rubber and defeat the thicker rubber zone created by the “mesas”. They could maybe be 2mm but 1mm would be preferable. I’ve started a campaign to bring this up wherever I see tire reviews in the hope that some tire maker reads it and addresses the need. If you haven’t encountered a goathead don’t worry, this invasive species is coming to your neighborhood soon.
The actual tread of the rubber is very thick definitely over 5mm I’m not sure about the grooves. They have a sort of V shape to them so they do have some pretty wide sections between the treads that a thorn could wedge itself into. I’ve definitely picked up some rocks and pieces of sticks between the treads. I don’t have a lot of thorn heads where I live. mostly just thorn bushes and glass and nails are what I need to worry about but so far I haven’t had any issues with these tires leaking.
Are these really puncture resistant? I’m getting sick of flat tires, I’m guessing it’s mainly because aside of the cheap tires my Vitilan I7 pro came with
I’m not sure if they would be technically labeled as “puncture resistant” but they are so much thicker than your standard E-bike tire that it’s really gonna take something huge to puncture it. The actual knobs of the tread are about a half inch thick and the sidewalls are also much beefier than your average tire.
Yeah they’re super thick tires so it would take something pretty serious to give you a flat. I’ve had no issues with over 500 miles or riding so far ! Definitely much better than any stock or street style tire
I got a pair of these this summer. looks great, horrible balance. the tires start to shimmy once you get over 15 to 20 mph. it gets dangerous really fast!!!
I’ve heard a few people mention their tires weren’t balanced. Mine were completely perfect I have no vibrations at all. I would try taking out all of the air and slowly filling it back up while massaging the tire the whole way around the rim to make sure it’s all sat on really even.
If that’s what you’re most concerned about for your ride there are definitely better options. Like the Vee Speedsters or there’s a lot of good lighter tire options out there !
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You're not the first person I've heard say that they are a little slower. I am currently riding on the Vee Speedsters, which seem to be more for just the street, and love them. They are so quiet and I actually gained 1mph on the top end. They seem like they coast forever. I've had them for a couple of months now and they have made me a fan of Vee tires. Thanks for the review.
I’ve heard great things about the speedsters ! As much as I would like the extra speed I love taking all the trails in my neighborhood so having a bit more weight and grip worked out for me well ! Thanks for watching !
How do the speedsters ride on loose gravel and dirt roads, worse than stock knobby tires on most e-bikes?
@@Blackpilld Definitely. They can get loose pretty quick off road. But they're a dream on clean pavement.(good on wet pavement too)
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but, adding some weight should just mean you lose some acceleration. Why would top speed go out the window, unless the tire dimeters are smaller then the factory stock tires? I mean, how much speed loss? I mean, 3 mph out of 20 means a 20mph bike now only goes 17, and that is a significant drop in top speed (a good 17% loss in top speed). That is a massive price to pay for loss of top speed, don't you think?
Now it is possible that adding weight to the bike is different then adding rotational weight to the tires. Since angular momentum goes up as the square, then perhaps there is a issue by adding weight to the rotation of the tire.
So, I guess we need someone to explain the difference between adding few pounds to the bike (which in general will NOT change top speed, but only require one longer to reach that top speed) vs that of adding weight to rotating tires.
So, we need MUCH MORE TIME spent on the top speed issue, since MANY would and will be disappointed if top speeds are effected by such huge amounts being noted here.
Hey, buy these tires - but leave out that you lose 3-4 mph top speed? Really!!!! ?????
We not talking about a 2% or even 5% loss of top speed, but over 15% such as being noted here is a HUGE elephant in the room, don't you think?
There is only one test that matters for those of us who live in goathead country and that is goathead imperviousness. I’ve learned that there are two things that matter and no 20x4 tire I’ve seen yet has them. The first is thickness of the rubber in the footprint zone has to be thick enough to take the longest thorn on a goathead which is about 5mm where I live. And the second thing is that the sipes have to be narrow so that a goathead can’t make it into the “canyon” between the “mesas” of rubber and defeat the thicker rubber zone created by the “mesas”. They could maybe be 2mm but 1mm would be preferable. I’ve started a campaign to bring this up wherever I see tire reviews in the hope that some tire maker reads it and addresses the need. If you haven’t encountered a goathead don’t worry, this invasive species is coming to your neighborhood soon.
The actual tread of the rubber is very thick definitely over 5mm I’m not sure about the grooves. They have a sort of V shape to them so they do have some pretty wide sections between the treads that a thorn could wedge itself into. I’ve definitely picked up some rocks and pieces of sticks between the treads. I don’t have a lot of thorn heads where I live. mostly just thorn bushes and glass and nails are what I need to worry about but so far I haven’t had any issues with these tires leaking.
Are these really puncture resistant? I’m getting sick of flat tires, I’m guessing it’s mainly because aside of the cheap tires my Vitilan I7 pro came with
I’m not sure if they would be technically labeled as “puncture resistant” but they are so much thicker than your standard E-bike tire that it’s really gonna take something huge to puncture it. The actual knobs of the tread are about a half inch thick and the sidewalls are also much beefier than your average tire.
So are these tires good to reduce flats
Yeah they’re super thick tires so it would take something pretty serious to give you a flat. I’ve had no issues with over 500 miles or riding so far ! Definitely much better than any stock or street style tire
@@MeedersPEVSwow that sounds good do they have tubeless ones?
@@tyronesblack7639 No I don’t think they support tubeless I’m not %100 sure though. I know on my bike it uses intertubes.
I got a pair of these this summer. looks great, horrible balance. the tires start to shimmy once you get over 15 to 20 mph. it gets dangerous really fast!!!
I’ve heard a few people mention their tires weren’t balanced. Mine were completely perfect I have no vibrations at all. I would try taking out all of the air and slowly filling it back up while massaging the tire the whole way around the rim to make sure it’s all sat on really even.
Audio volume on your video is too low. I can barely hear it with the volume all the way up.
My apologies. This was the first time trying out a new microphone. I gotta figure out how to get my settings dialed in on it
Yeagh real bummer we can't hear you, and your one of the few videos on this remarkable tire choice, so please keep us updated,
I would be concerned about efficiency I actually pedal my bike for maximum efficiency during long rides
If that’s what you’re most concerned about for your ride there are definitely better options. Like the Vee Speedsters or there’s a lot of good lighter tire options out there !
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