Batman Black and White - A Good Comics Experiment from the 1990s

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @aztektheultimatewoman
    @aztektheultimatewoman 4 роки тому +46

    I’d love to see a Kayfabe episode on the Solo series.

    • @antr7493
      @antr7493 3 роки тому

      Hopefully your talking about "Solo (1994 Marvel)"

  • @cassisbrook
    @cassisbrook 4 роки тому +17

    Brian Bolland's straight to the point way of dealing with Batman was...straight to the point.

  • @geoffyuendesign
    @geoffyuendesign 4 роки тому +7

    Not enough people talk about Matt Wagner. Seriously underrated cartoonist.

  • @VIARideas
    @VIARideas 4 роки тому +20

    Super surprised that they dedicated so many words of affection to my teacher José Muñoz! Thank you on his behalf. I don't know if you've considered it, but perhaps you'll find it interesting to take a look at the work of another student of José Muñoz_ Francisco Solano Lopez, the illustrator of "El Eternauta", the iconic Argentinean agricultural novel published during the military dictatorship and for which its author was kidnapped and disappeared.

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  4 роки тому +6

      Love José Muñoz's art. It's like magic. As for the Eternaut, yes! That's the only Francisco Solano Lopez art that I've seen, but I thought it was excellent! Gorgeous art and storytelling in that one. Here's a video we made about it: ua-cam.com/video/RQjDy1J71cI/v-deo.html

    • @VIARideas
      @VIARideas 4 роки тому +3

      @@CartoonistKayfabe Oh, great! I missed that video. Thank you!

  • @mattprather3140
    @mattprather3140 4 роки тому +8

    Really liked the Batman black and white series and have picked up the subsequent trades. Wednesday Comics and the Solo series are successful experiments in my mind, I bought them. It was a fun look guys. So many great artists in this series. Love watching you guys poor over cool sequential art.

  • @jamesgreato
    @jamesgreato 4 роки тому +16

    Perfect timing guys! The new Batman B&W miniseries starts this week with some pretty great artists (Tradd Moore and JH Williams III just to name a couple).

    • @jamesgreato
      @jamesgreato 4 роки тому

      @@roymakescomics what I find astonishing is that he does everything with a brush! I would’ve bet money that he was an all digital artist because of his level of detail and crisp line.

    • @gabrieljimenez9762
      @gabrieljimenez9762 4 роки тому +2

      JH Wiliams is one of those artists that I'll get whatever he is working on. Love his stuff.

  • @Phantoman7
    @Phantoman7 4 роки тому +6

    The end of the Simonson story seems very timely!

  • @Elizabetty
    @Elizabetty 4 роки тому +8

    I think Vol 2 has one of my favourite short story by Enrique Breccia

  • @kasraghanbari
    @kasraghanbari Рік тому +2

    Walt Simonson told me that he was outright jealous of Ted McKeever's idea to use an autopsy as the structure for Batman to have a sort of "dialogue" with the deceased so that she would reveal who her killer was.

  • @RaulGonzalez-ee7wl
    @RaulGonzalez-ee7wl 4 роки тому +7

    Matt Wagner knows how to do Batman justice. Faces is brilliant.

    • @RandomAccessDreams
      @RandomAccessDreams 4 роки тому +4

      Matt Wagner is a dark horse for "Best Batman writer/artist no one talks about", he captures the pulp origins of the character.

    • @largefactory
      @largefactory 2 роки тому

      @@RandomAccessDreams - Mad Monk and Monster Men are fire

  • @cthulhuhandluke8026
    @cthulhuhandluke8026 4 роки тому +4

    " the abyss yawned and I fell " - two face

  • @jyrkivainio425
    @jyrkivainio425 4 роки тому +4

    Haha! You guys are reading my mind: I was just looking at those books thinking: Cartoonist Kayfabe should cover these!

  • @jlolsson2
    @jlolsson2 4 роки тому +2

    Guys, this channel is my favorite comics channel at UA-cam at the moment! It’s like the wishlist I never wrote....almost every new post lately, is covering one of my favorite comics or series...... and your views are so interesting! Just keep it coming!

  • @bradfrederick1135
    @bradfrederick1135 4 роки тому +4

    The Bolland & Timm stories and the Toth cover were highlights for me

  • @k.drawscomics4422
    @k.drawscomics4422 4 роки тому +4

    Around the time it came out, I got a "polite rejection letter" from DC plus this mini-series signed by some of the creators. Anybody knows why? Was it some kind of promo or what?

  • @Phantoman7
    @Phantoman7 4 роки тому +3

    After seeing the Silvestri piece here, I have to ask... When oh when will we finally get to be blessed with Silvestri's Batman book (that he has shared some glimpses of)?

  • @janderjanus2036
    @janderjanus2036 4 роки тому +3

    Your wrestling references are delicious!
    That Average Joe story by Bolland was included in a reprint of The Killing Joke here in Spain

  • @gb7995
    @gb7995 4 роки тому +14

    KAYFABERS, the official Kubert school UA-cam recently uploaded those videos Ed is talking about. Check them out asap

    • @russworks2882
      @russworks2882 4 роки тому

      Watching him draw is incredible. He pencils like Michelangelo.

    • @gb7995
      @gb7995 4 роки тому +2

      @@russworks2882 It really changed the way I view my own work.

  • @strawhattheory3607
    @strawhattheory3607 4 роки тому +3

    Artwork is dope, love the black and white. Might do a pen and ink piece for my channel next.

  • @demetriusdillard2863
    @demetriusdillard2863 Рік тому

    I love the initial Batman: Black And White limited series from '96! Every single issue is a masterpiece! I have the trade paperback downloaded on my Kindle!

  • @peterm.fitzpatrick7735
    @peterm.fitzpatrick7735 2 роки тому

    Wow! I love black and white comic art, and you guys have satisfied my needs today!

  • @gongorelocksmagiincommand
    @gongorelocksmagiincommand 4 роки тому +4

    man, if anything's is gonna inspire one to start inking it's these stories!

  • @antdujar
    @antdujar 4 роки тому +1

    One of my fave anthologies that I own. To me, this is what Batman is to me. A detective. I feel that this side of Batman has been missing on a massive level these last few years. That and all of the creators on this book showed me and many others that you can do anything. It’s all about the good story and artistic execution. I own volume 1 and volume 4. I’m hoping with the new 2020batman black and white series would do things in the spirit of the first 4. Even during the 2011 black and white series, it just wasn’t as interesting and experimental as the original series. The range of artists, cartoonists, of various comic genres and mediums, just hasn’t been done again with the 2011 series. So hopefully they’ll do that again for the new one.

  • @thomasleon9550
    @thomasleon9550 4 роки тому +3

    Always been a huge, huge fan of Batman Black and White, even bought the whole run of Gotham Knights that had the b&w backup stories. The series led me to find some of my favorite Cartoonists of all time, a real gateway. I've always thought that of those first four issues, that Liberatore one is one of the weakest, and I've always kinda written him off because of that, but I will totally be giving him a second chance after Jim's recommendation! Thanks dudes.

  • @lourahkneeri0229
    @lourahkneeri0229 Рік тому

    I have to get the tpb before finishing this episode! Another Banger.

  • @awesomebillfromdawsonville9633
    @awesomebillfromdawsonville9633 4 роки тому

    That oldschool batmobile with the shield is one of my favs too

  • @RobSnell
    @RobSnell Рік тому

    Hey! Where did y'all say the Bruce Timm techniques were covered? The TPB collection? Love these videos

  • @keithroberts4754
    @keithroberts4754 3 роки тому

    I got to meet and chat with Kevin nowlan when i was 14, he was very encouraging, and asked about my drawings even taking a moment to give a pointer.

  • @whitheringstudios
    @whitheringstudios 4 роки тому

    Barry Windsor-Smith reprints that cover in one of the issues of Opus but adds red lipstick to Batman. There’s a similar pinup of Marv from Sin City with lipstick and mascara. Good stuff.

  • @elpadrino1128
    @elpadrino1128 4 роки тому +2

    You guys should do more episodes on Kevin Nowlan

  • @maskedmarvel7869
    @maskedmarvel7869 2 роки тому

    The Wagner panel at 47:46 is based off of the black and white film Nosferatu ( maybe) lol

  • @TheWhmaxwell
    @TheWhmaxwell 4 роки тому +1

    Good stuff guys, it's funny, I got to meet Klaus Janson a few years ago at Heroescon, I was supper excited, got him to sign the DC guide to inking... he was crusty as hell. LOL, mighta been a bad day but it made me smile. Anyway, I forgot about this series... now I have to go dig it out and read it again.

  • @duanehicks6962
    @duanehicks6962 2 роки тому

    Great video! DC was pretty amazing or at least interesting in the 90s with many of their prestige projects. Kingdom Come, some Elseworlds projects, Bizarro Comics/World (which you guys should check out; features indie creators doing humour superhero strips), Batman B&W, and even Paradox Press with the Factoid Press line (The Big Book of Freaks, Weirdos, Conspiracies, etc. (which again featured a mix of mainstream and indie artists doing non-fiction strips).

  • @shaneberryhill5800
    @shaneberryhill5800 4 роки тому

    You said it best re: the meta Gaiman/ story with the wrestling analogy...it was a "loving" dismissal of Batman...all his stories being the same basic formula...just like in wrestling. They literally "go through the motions" and gave the audience what they came for, then go backstage and drop the charade...just as is done in wrestling

  • @willagnes8376
    @willagnes8376 4 роки тому +1

    Have you guys picked up a book from Thames and Hudson called Anime Architecture?
    You guys would dig it for sure, definitely microscope material.

  • @kurtk7838
    @kurtk7838 4 роки тому +2

    Ted McKeever is the man-- you should look into "Industrial Gothic" some time!

  • @71degrees
    @71degrees 2 роки тому

    The new book.... is it volume 5? Or 6? We are finding confusion when we research

  • @kevinmorris7224
    @kevinmorris7224 Рік тому

    The boys the, kayfabe couple, should do the other 4 trades' worth if issues! Good stuff!

  • @pjbrown4736
    @pjbrown4736 4 роки тому

    I used to have these. Kinda want to read them again now.

  • @blindboy118
    @blindboy118 4 роки тому

    Re: Gianni's style, reminds me of Alcala over Buscema's Savage Sword of Conan. Beautiful stuff

  • @Oddernod
    @Oddernod 4 роки тому

    Would love to see this revived every 5 years.

  • @elpadrino1128
    @elpadrino1128 4 роки тому

    19:00 - 20:25 same last panels?

  • @ES_Glenn
    @ES_Glenn 3 роки тому

    Holy Shit I never heard of this Otomo Batman story!!!!!

  • @paulseidler1644
    @paulseidler1644 4 роки тому

    The omnibus for this is great

  • @LsElite4210
    @LsElite4210 4 роки тому +1

    There relaunching this and hopefully it’ll be good but we’ll see

  • @seandunne82
    @seandunne82 3 роки тому

    The frozen hand thing happened, think it was the westies did something similar

  • @savage75_
    @savage75_ 3 роки тому

    I dig the Black and White series

  • @Kingcomics2021
    @Kingcomics2021 4 роки тому +1

    Ratman (Moebius)

  • @oldmandavid7944
    @oldmandavid7944 4 роки тому

    excellent video

  • @rickrudge9349
    @rickrudge9349 4 роки тому

    Incredible!!!!

  • @Oni_no_Hanzo_Twitch
    @Oni_no_Hanzo_Twitch 4 роки тому

    Please cover Volume 2!

  • @manusigfried2603
    @manusigfried2603 4 роки тому

    Man.. You shoul do Batman Broken Ciity by Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso. The series that had the unfortunate luck of been the one after Hush. It's a great history with amazing art that looks like black and white, even whit colour. But, after Hush, nobody gives two fucks about Broken City

  • @spiderphil
    @spiderphil Рік тому

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Eduardo-zp1os
    @Eduardo-zp1os 4 роки тому

    * great experiment

  • @CasaBlack5
    @CasaBlack5 Рік тому

    ur loco