RNAV approach in IMC - The Flying Reporter
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2019
- The Flying Reporter practises an RNAV approach at Lydd.
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Yeeeah, more IFR videos Jon!
They do tend to be popular!
This is the most honest aviaton channel on UA-cam! Keep up the good work! 💥👍
Thanks Olle.
JON! this is brilliant! i love flying this approach in the simulator :) this just confirms that i am doing it the right way also! id love to see more ifr in the future! hope you hear about the engine soon also, thanks!
Amazing job Sir.
Watching this video I could feel how intensive is flying into clouds even more alone in cockpit. Thanks for sharing it.
Your videos are amazing, honest, Frank and safety first. Very enjoyable and very inspiring. I'm a middle aged fella hoping to get my 3 axis micro licence this summer. Still a mountain to climb but I think I can make out the peak shrouded in clouds
I had my IMC rating, loved flying in IFR conditions, discovering a runway right in front all of a sudden is an absolute wonderful feeling. Nice videos man !
Appreciate your honesty and your humbleness. Pilots are notoriously guarded in this regard. As piper PA28 owner myself I definitely enjoy the experience. Nice graphics as well.
Flying IFR into IMC is no joke.
I’m not yet a pilot but trying it just on sims is no small feat.
Sure, modern GPS, Fore Flight & Auto Pilot does help.
But every-time I watch a accident on UA-cam, there’s always a chain of “events” unplanned that happens.
1) A pilot on VFR suddenly finds himself flying into IMC.
2) Electric Failure, loss of attitude gauge, airspeed gauge.
Battery dies on iPad.
3) Engine failure or low on fuel.
Even if pilot briefed flight, has frequencies, approach plates ready.
Example: Now try simulating an engine failure or loss of a gauge, possibly electric issue where you loose your GPS or worse loss of radio communications.
Autopilot kicks off while flying in strong winds & gusts.
What I learned is having any major event suddenly trying to hand fly plane & locate nearest airport.
Then turn in right frequencies-
Pray there’s an ILS runway.
Then while doing all this view the surrounding runway for hidden “obstacles” such as high antennas, power lines & yeah, Mountain terrains to avoid.
Doing what’s planned is tough in good weather- but when something happens while in bad weather is another story.
I’m on the highway in heavy traffic & notice that trying to tune my simple FM Radio dial to a different station is difficult while not swerving into the next lane off my compass heading or hitting another car ahead of me.
And that’s not talking to ATC,, not keeping altitude or wings leveled :-) lol
You are right about the chain of events. The aim of all pilots is to break that chain.
A pleasure to support the channel Jon. Great video as always. Keep up the great work!
Thank you James.
Great to see you again thanks for the awesome video , love the explanation of the flight.
Thanks for watching.
Brilliant stuff, Jon. You bring a really honest view of what being a PPL is all about. Invaluable.
Thanks for watching.
Nice one!, and lovely touch down!.
Great Video again
Bin there Jon, I was sweating for you. Sigle pilot, light aircraft IFR is hard work, well done for maintaining currency. Personally, I would do these familiarity exercises with a safety lookout in the right seat because you are mainly head down for the duration. Despite no longer retaining an IMC rating, I have benefitted from having held the rating for ten years and feel more confident with my VFR decision making. Another great video Jon, thanks.
As someone without any IFR training, as always you provide such an honest, helpful and reassuring insight in your videos. Thanks so much ! Most enjoyable.
Thanks Graeme.
Just got out of history, rushed home to watch this !! Love the new flight status features and exciting music. Amazing as per.
Thanks Marcus.
Great video Jon. Just starting IR(R) training now.
Thanks Jon, I know your videos are NOT educational but I have learned a lot from them. I am going through IR(R) training these days and this video in particular, helped a lot. Please keep them coming. Oh, BTW, congrats on 10K subs, well impressed.
Thank you. Good on you with the IRR.
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Great video Jon - many thanks
Thanks Richard.
Nice job Jon. 👍🏻 Like the graphics you added too with the the little high tech sound effect as they come on! 😀
Thanks Paul.
Another well told story in the air. Definitely a useful rating and nice to know it’s in line, difficulty wise with one of the main ppl subjects.
Thanks Simon.
Great videos. I'm local to EGKR & EGKB and hope to get my PPL at some point in the coming years so I find your videos a really good insight to the world of general aviation in the UK. Thanks for putting them together.
Thanks for watching Matt. Good luck getting the Ppl.
Love watching all your videos! Greetings from YBSS
Thanks David.
Great video, got my student ADI license and getting my APP license in jus tiger a month very excited 👍
Great Video ✈️
I always imagine any IMC has to really ramp up the old brain work! Hard work!
Another enjoyable video Jon, thanks.
Thanks. This video really does show the workload going up, and the effect on the brain.
Great video Jon. I liked the new 'flight status' panel, the graphics made it all very clear and the external shot entering cloud seemed to highlight the drama of it but as per usual you handled the procedure and coms really well. Good trip nicely documented!
Hi Tim. Thanks for the feedback.
Excellent stuff Jon, not many PPLs would stretch themselves like that.
Thanks Chris. There are a few PPL IRs and IRrs out there
There are a lot but not everyone has the discipline to remain current and competent.
Great Vodeo Jon Clearly shows the high workload ina short space of time and what it takes to operste single piot IFR.Thanks for sharing
Thanks Sean.
Well done Jon! There's nothing like the inside of a cloud to focus your attention:)
Too right Paul.
Great video, looks like you flew really well. High workload in the clouds, easy to see how some pilots drop the ball and make mistakes in such circumstances.
Thanks for watching.
Nice one Jon! I like the Flight Status panels!
Great. Thanks for the feedback.
Great video as norm Jon, and really does give a feel of what flying in cloud is really like. keep them coming. As someone else has said, no point having IRR if you don't use it in anger, otherwise when you need to use it as a backup you'll be well out of practice.
Thanks Keith.
Good job, Jon. Nice video, too!
Thanks!
Great video yet again, thanks Jon. That hot uncomfortable feeling you mentioned quickly followed by the words, 'why do I do this to myself?' You've moved on and you're doing great. I'm still getting it at 'Clear Prop!!!' 😀
Brilliant!
This was a really interesting and informative video! I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing. I'm looking forward (albeit a little nervous) about starting my IR sometime later this year! Seeing it done for real like this really helps get an understanding for everything that's going on during all of the procedures. The ATPL theory exams don't do a very good job of explaining holds, I thought you did an excellent job at it. I also thought the flight status popups were great. I'm looking forward to more!
Thanks for watching!
Truth be told, Atc only cares that u are holding on the assigned side, maintaining altitude and within prescribed distance. Waaay too much emphasis in training on the various entry methods in my opinion -having flown IFR for close to 2 decades.
Great job Jon. The cdi needle was dead centre! ATP standards. Brilliant stuff especially with the heavy load and no autopilot.
Thanks Douglass. I was chasing the needle a bit on that approach, but it settled down.
Does their controller handbook require them to change your squawk ever 3 minutes?
Great video nice new graphics.
Can’t wait to fly in shorts again!
Thanks. Agree...not long now.
Ah come on that looks easy........no I'm only messing, well done Sir , that's definitely not for the faint hearted. Great flight and great video. Many thanks.
Thanks for watching.
Well done! Very interesting video. I’ve got plenty on my plate getting used to my tail dragger Jodel... I’m kind of relieved it’s not equipped for anything other than VFR conditions!
Thanks. Each to their own!
Another winner Jon, (refreshing my IMC soon) have you linked all the IMC vids into a group?
Dammit, I guess I'll have to get a premium subscription...
Nice to see GOR back in the air
Filmed in June 2018.
Loved IFR stuff!
Thanks Tom.
I remember doing the imc rating training in the seventies and the dreaded VDF approach very tricky i wonder if this approach still exists haven't flown for 38 years.
Would you recommend any good aero clubs at Redhill? Cheers
@14:38 What was the lydd controller thinking passing you non standard missed approach instructions and new squawk not until after you were well after the final approach fix. Should have been given well before. Did he forget
Yes workload is what I think she said
accepting that Romti is the primary hold fix, wouldnt it have been easier/safer to start at bemla from your direction. Entering at Romti from the west means you get close to the final approach track as you naturally overshoot romti in the subsequent turn.
Excellent graphics on this one, very clear. What drives the vertical guidance on the CDI if it is not an ILS?
It's the WAAS GPS. Some LNAV approaches actually have vertical guidance coded in, but they are only there as a guide, you must still follow the VNAV charts. I probably had the ILS tuned on NAV 2.
Very impressive! I have my IR(R) rating but rarely use it due to lack of confidence.
You very quickly lose confidence in it, so it's really important to get out there and use it, as often as you can. An hour or so with an instructor should get you back on track.
The Flying Reporter a couple of quick questions. How do you use VOR for inbound track to ROMTI, and when do you report ROMTI outbound, thanks
When I was a student pilot for my PPL my FI always told me that as a single pilot if you are ever at a point where you are not actively managing your workload you have forgotten something.
In the UK, that is probably true most of the time, but it's tiring. You should also be able to relax and do nothing (other than lookout and fly straight and level) if there really is nothing to do. The 'trick' is to be able to switch between being busy and being relaxed as necessary.
Awesome video Jon, you really nailed that procedure considering you haven't done any IFR for a while I would love to see more IFR if you don't mind as well. Jon, do you edit your own video's when you are working for the BBC or is that done back at Tonbridge wells by someone else?
Mostly edit myself, but now and then work with another editor. J
Love the video. Can someone tell me why so many turns before landing?
UK airspace is very congested, with lots of airfields and airspace in close proximity, so instrument approaches to smaller airfields have to be squeezed into the remaining airspace, hence they tend to be quite tight and convoluted compared to what is normal in the USA.
Thanks Jon and well done! Really enjoy these challenging RNAV approches in IMC. Just a quick question if I may...the RNAV approach charts always show what look like 90 degree turns at waypoints. Does your GPS tell you when to turn to avoid overshooting the waypoint?
Yes, they do. If they are flyby way points.
Good Morning, excellent videos, very detailed and educational. If I may ask which software are you using for navigation in the ipad? Is it also for VFR and IFR navigation suitable? Thank you.
I use SkyDemon. It's mostly a VFR tool, although has some georeferenced IFR plates.
“Why do I do this to myself?!” 😂 That made me laugh. Great video Jon - really interesting to see you use your IR - out of interest, how much additional study was there to add it to your licence? I’ll be moving to Wales soon so think it will be a good idea to add it too! Thank you for sharing.
Not that much - completely achievable. A bit like one of your PPL subject areas.
I’m would imagine trying to get a pilots license in London one would require a IRF license?
All the constant Fog weather conditions?
Hi Jon. Having only recently acquired my ir(r) I have a question. When you contacted farnbourgh you said to them you where ifr. Did you file a flight plan or just pass your route when airborne?
No formal flight plan filed - I just called them up and said I'm IFR.
Great, very interesting.
Thanks Armand.
Hello Jon, a question, what I saw in your movie during this rnav approach was that a Skydemon approachplate as a moving map
It's from the UK AIP, downloadable in skydemon. It explains how to activate it in planning settings in the Skydemon manual.
Thanks Jon! it's clear.
Great video. Just wondered if you might have been on the cusp of a direct entry for ROMTI (spelling ?) ...?
I think it was about 15 degrees inside the parallel sector. I was tracking about 087 for a 172 inbound course. I think I'd have to have been tracking further south east to get into the direct entry sector.
Were you using AP starting at 6:38. I subbed...I just can't imagine doing this in real life. I'm already stressed out doing this in the simulator so I guess more irl :) . More power to your channel and stay safe!
Sry I just saw it, nope not in AP :)
There is something I don’t understand. You got your analog VORs working with your garmin gps? I thought they only worked with conventional for frequencies not with gps
Great video - quick question when does the need for a safety pilot arise?
Simulated IMC.
Great Video Jon and woh what concentration and airmanship! Reminder to all VFR licence holders to remain clear of cloud! Love the new graphics/pop ups! Sorry if i missed something but is this an earlier video or is G-OR out of hospital?
Thanks Stuart. Filmed June 2018.
@@TheFlyingReporter Thank you Jon, I did wonder! Stu
Nail biting stuff! My understand is that basic service is when "The avoidance of other traffic is solely the pilot pilot's responsibility" How is it possible to fly IFR with a basic service?
It's legal in the UK, we don't have very joined up ATC here, and services outside Co trolled airspace are not as they are elsewhere in the world. It was a basic service until she identified me, and then it was a traffic service. (if you're referring to the exchange with Farnborough Radar)
Hi Jon, Good job on the approach and the whole flight in general! I’ve just finished my IR and CPL down at shoreham in the DA42, so I’ve done that approach at Lydd countless times 😂 I was lucky enough to have the DA42 with the G1000 to help me out, so certainly a case of credit where its due to you for doing it using the old gauges, I reckon it would take me a few attempts on those before It get it to a decent level of accuracy haha!
Anywhoo I just thought I’d mention a little tool I use for any 2D approaches which makes it easier reaching the block altitudes bang on the money and just helps finesse the approach in general! its that whenever you’re 0.3nm away from a set distance associated with a block alt, you know you should be 100ft above the associated altitude! as an example in that approach you did, 4nm from the MAPT is 1950ft, so at 4.3nm aim to be 2050ft. Again just sharing a useful tool I used, if you already knew it then disregard this comment 😂 All the best!
That's a good tip I didn't know. Thank you.
Love ur Vids but not doing my PPL due to GCSE's
During your preflight checks I noticed "pitot heat off", surely for IMC flight it should always be on?
Not if temperature is above freezing.
As I understand it there can be a temperature drop in the pitot head though so it can freeze even if temp is >0, eg I know some POHs say to use it if OAT < 10C and visible moisture (ie cloud).
I think that may be Commercial airline ops, but willing to be corrected. I'd use it if temperature close to or below freezing, and maybe in a heavy shower.
@@TheFlyingReporter One point you may wish to check for your own peace of mind - is your compass calibrated with the pitot heat switched ON? If so, you may get slightly erroneous readings with it switched off in flight.
Another great video Jon. How often do you practice approach and holds with your IMC? Great to see people actually use this rating within reasonable minima. Not sure the point in having one as a 'get out of jail free card' if you forget how to use it when the time comes to apply it!
I try to keep it current. I use it as often as I can. I used it a bit late summer last year, but with the aircraft grounded I'm going to be a bit rusty.
Still grounded! Rubbish. Although, bit rubbish for practice at the moment at least! Was doing some IMC practice in EGBJ last week and iced up v quickly @ 3,000ft. Great video Jon! Hope you are airborne again soon!
That doesn't sound pleasant. Never experienced that myself, thankfully.
when was this, taking off on the grass?
Filmed last June.
@@TheFlyingReporter Great video John, thanks. Note to self: must do one myself at Lydd, stay current!
Why were you asked squawk 7000 when flying IFR?
Because I am changing controller. The UK atc is not joined up outside controlled airspace.
Actually, I expect your question refers to 7000 being a VFR squawk. Here it can be used when IFR or VFR. It's just a conspicuity squawk, has nothing to do with flight rules.
Great video! How are you finding the Bose? Starting my multi IR soon, was thinking of getting them!
Comfort is brilliant, noise reduction is ok, but not quite as good as I was expecting, clarity of comms is great. If you can afford them, I'd recommend.
Hi Jon, are you sure you don't need a "competent observer" to be practicing instrument approaches in real IMC?
Hi. Yes, it was a real approach rather than a ‘practise’ as such, although I communicated it was a practise. I know that probably doesn’t make sense. If I was practising this in vMC then yes, I would need an observer. Once In VMC, in the ATZ I split my focus between the instruments and the outside, as you would in any IFR approach once you break cloud. Does that make sense? In short, it was a practise, yes, as every flight is, but it wasn’t simulated IMC.
Hi, when will your aircraft be able to fly again.
Hopefully within the next month.
Sorry, Farnborough LARS need an educational visit to SoCal Approach to educate themselves on the true meaning of 'controller workload'.
Great Video.... The ATC service GA aircraft receive in the UK on IFR flight plans & when actually in IMC always seems very "Keystone Cops"... It's like the controllers aren't really responsible for separation like when Farnborough controller said "Traffic warnings may be delayed due to work load ?!?!" And then when the Lydd Appr controller asked for your position ?!?! The Approach controller doesn't have radar or ADSB ? It all seems a bit Amateur compared to how GA A/C are handled on IFR in the States.
Hi. If you're light aircraft, operating outside controlled airspace in the UK, you're given a substandard ATC service I'm afraid. Lydd is non radar - so it's a procedural service. Farnborough is overloaded/under resourced, so can't offer a fool-proof radar service. It is a mess in the UK in my opinion.
Well it might be. But I like the idea of the IFRr ticket in UK. nothing comparable for the VFR pilot in USA who kills himself in inadvertent vmc to imc. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were fewer IMC-related accidents in the uk because of this intermediary rating.
You could be right Douglass. We have quite challenging weather here, so it makes sense.
I learned to Fly at EGTO in 91' (Robin DR-400) In the NYC we have way worse weather & just if not more complicated airspace as southern England, Yet if you are a C-172 on an IFR plan you will get a full controller to controller service....Even if you are VFR with zero flight plan you can normally ask for flight following, they will give you a squawk & traffic advisories
ua-cam.com/video/5V1pXMeESFk/v-deo.html
"Reduced traffic information due to controller workload. Possible late warning of traffic" 😬She did not sound especially happy. 😂
Welcome to FIS outside controlled airspace in southern UK.