I’m not sure why you think this is limited to just Jay-Z? He’s saying, everyone who is above him on that list, who he has been on a song with, he ripped. His reference is plural.
I'm more of an eminem fan than a jay z fan, but I actually liked jayz's verse more than eminem's in that song... it's probably my favourite thing jay z has done lol
@@DarkerPhoenix1actually he deserve it. It is obvious that he have rap better than the most rappers that he have collab but he still not considered as one of the greatest because he is white
Eminem is going at Jay because when Nore told the story of Jay telling him “The White boy won’t do the Super Bowl half-time show without 50 Cent.” It was condescending…
@@__D-B__ Em would have said Jay Z's name if he was going at his head. Em was simply being competitive on the track. It's part of the sport. Him and Jay are cool. Anyway I like how he got y'all talking. It hypes up his album roll out effectively
Right mf said K dot not number 2 like is he cool bro just proved y he the best by taking down drake could em do that fuck no I don’t even got him beating k dot in a battle
@@hgmab5202 Drake is the biggest clown in music, he doesn't even write his own stuff. You're talking like he's a juggernaut in the rap game, he's barely even a rapper.
Eminem and Jay Z are my top 2 fav rap artists, as much as I would love to see them clash, I don't think Jay Z is in that space right now, so he'll ignore this. Em could be talking about the other artists that was placed above him too
he’s not known in America either he’s not that good and always sucked. Had a few songs here and there and wasn’t ever on top in any of the years he had music
"And Em murdered you on your own shit". The goat Nas been in the game 30 years and dropped 6 back to back fire albums. JAY hasn't dropped since 2017. And you forgot the battle with Ja lol
I just don’t understand how Eminem constantly switches between saying he doesn’t care about a top 5 spot, critics, and trophies but when he doesn’t like what spot he’s at, what critics says and what awards he doesn’t win he gets mad?
@@omeyiin1626 Exactly. When you look at this from this perspective, it all adds up. They ain't special. Everyone gets in their feelings at one point or another.
Kendrick spoke about love and coming together only to come out saying "well let me say I'm the biggest hater" The man had mr morale speaking on some therapy shit but now he's stepping on drakes grave 😂.. Let rappers be people
Em is a better rapper than Jay. If you don't wanna believe that, go listen to Renegade and tell me Jay didn't get his ass handed to him by the white boy. Em wasn't dissing Jay or anyone in that track. He was stating facts. EM never beefs with anyone unless they start with him.
Eminem has already put THE FUCKIN BELT to Jay Z YEARS AGO !! On Renegade...and his lyricism has somehow only gotten better! With much respect to Tupac & Biggie . Eminem is no doubt the greatest rappers of all time . And I very very highly doubt he will ever be passed. He will be on fuckin Egyptian pyramids!😂
Both of these rappers may be the greatest lyrist to a lot people. But I like music that I can feel. The Best Rapper To Me Is The G.O.A.T. 2PAC SHAKUR🅰️➕
He had his chance to go at Jay and Nas in his prime. Nas was the first to say that Em washed Jay on Renegade. Em didn't like that back then; he was trying to fit in.
@@envyops lol gay z wouldn’t dare diss em except he want to get murderd idgaf if em white yellow or blue he’s 10000 times better than gay z is only poplar because of beyonce
Eminem will never understand, " jay z aint animated like say a busta rhymes, but the real it you get when you bust down my lines" Eminem has flow, but no substance, em is not better than nas , rakim or jay, Eminem is not even better than twista iykyk
Em is in my top 5 but even he has told you why he has sold so much. He's told you multiple times. He rarely brings up his success when claiming to be the best, he brings up his skill level. Because he knows why the numbers are what they are, which makes it debatable, but he doesn't believe in his heart that another rapper can fuck with him. And I respect him for that. He's said that he knows that he has tons of fans that aren't into Hip-hop, they're into him, which kinds of fucks him up because he LOVES Hip-hop and thought his success would get more people into it but instead they never venture past his music and even actively shit on the people and culture that he loves and looks up to. But it is what it is I guess 🤷🏾♂
@@casualslax If there was 1 other WHITE rapper with his success or HALF his success that point can be made but here in 2024 the RAP GOD numbers at age 51 we have the answer now What was your favorite rapper doing at age 51 not putting up the RAP GOD NUMBERS or half or a quarter of his numbers color doesn’t matter A lot of people favorite rappers are not beating other black rappers that are GLOBAL Jay-Z or NAS can’t be #1 not Global enough to beat other black rappers NOBODY is global enough to beat the RAP GOD Please check into 2024 2000 to 2010 is a long time ago
@@casualslax Here is the Top 10 most global artists of all-time list: 1. Michael Jackson - 260 languages 2. The Beatles - 208 languages 3. The Carpenters - 195 languages 4. The Doors - 181 languages 5. Elvis Presley, Queen - 177 languages 7. Lady Gaga - 163 languages 8. Eminem, Justin Bieber - 153 languages 10. ABBA - 150 languages If you are looking for other rappers on the list, you will struggle to find them. Hip hop superstars Drake and Jay-Z are tied on 73 languages and didn’t make it to the Top 60. 2Pac (103 languages) ranked at No. 55. And that is all. Once again, the gap between Eminem and everybody else in the genre is mind-boggling. Eminem, the rap god himself, shattered barriers and made hip hop a global language. From anthems like “My Name Is” to modern bangers like “Houdini”, his music transcended borders.
@@casualslax Here is the Top 10 most global artists of all-time list: 1. Michael Jackson - 260 languages 2. The Beatles - 208 languages 3. The Carpenters - 195 languages 4. The Doors - 181 languages 5. Elvis Presley, Queen - 177 languages 7. Lady Gaga - 163 languages 8. Eminem, Justin Bieber - 153 languages 10. ABBA - 150 languages If you are looking for other rappers on the list, you will struggle to find them. Hip hop superstars Drake and Jay-Z are tied on 73 languages and didn’t make it to the Top 60. 2Pac (103 languages) ranked at No. 55. And that is all. Once again, the gap between Eminem and everybody else in the genre is mind-boggling. Eminem, the rap god himself, shattered barriers and made hip hop a global language. From anthems like “My Name Is” to modern bangers like “Houdini”, his music transcended borders.
The slept on floors part is probably in reference to what Lord Jamal was talking about with Rah Digga when The Outsidaz use to make Em sleep on the floor when he came out to Jersey
@@corrae99hahahahhahahaha bruh😭 dre went thru his shit so longg ago w his ex lnao diddy having freak offs n hosting them him n jay are mad tight lol dre isnt tight w diddy nice try
There’s a difference between dissin’ somebody and just defending your legacy and rockin’ that old braggadocio, which is what MC’s do in hip hop. And Eminem arguably has spent more of his career being self-deprecating for humor, humble, and givin’ props to others that repping himself.
Its interesting that these lists never have rappers that are considered underground or not mainstream. I know ablum sales and popularity factor in, but people never bring up rappers like Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks, R.A. The Rugged Man, A.F.R.O, MF Doom, Tech N9ne, Armosphere, and so on. Im not saying these guys are necessarily in the GOAT conversation, but it seems like everybody forgets the undergound in general when making these lists. Again im not saying artists like Immortal Technique or Doom will ever have the impact on hip hop that Eminem and Jay Z have, but the impact of the underground in general is still so important to so many hip hop fans and the culture as a whole. Interested to see what everybody else has to think about this
Yes Em is great but … there are black artists who rap just as good and they don’t get the same love. White ppl are gonna identify with their own in a culture full of ppl who don’t look like them
DM, you overestimate the value of your opinion. Not all rappers are battlers. You Stans are pathetic. Hiphop actually is very different from hiphop in your minds. Switch to pop and have peace.
Look at you acting all high and mighty 😂 Take your own opinion and apply it to yourself. You didn't write didn't write the rules of hip hop. You didn't do anything to progress it.
The issue here is that when trusted bodies like Billboard speak, they speak the mind of the culture (most times), not run-off-the-mill listeners or Stans. This top 5 ranking is acceptable to me and many. Why? Because shady is only good enough to titillate the hearing sense. Other than that, it's all non-essentials.
@@imsodone5737do you mean what you hear from em doesn’t speak to what black culture feels like? He does talk about struggles and and I guess his own mental health I’ll give him that. But if you ever see the Black Thought, Mos def, Em cypher you can see how he raps about nonsensical things but he’s very articulate in his rhythms. It sounds cool but I hear mos def and black thought it felt deeper to me
He may not be everyone's favourite rapper but to me there's no doubt eminem is the best ever. His rhyme schemes are unmatched, The flows and cadence, His delivery is immaculate. To me he's number 1. Each to there own though
8:16 Eminem has never battled any top tier rappers or any great rappers aside from Ja Rule but that beef was really between 50 Cent & Ja Rule. Eminem only became involved after he signed 50 Cent to the Shady/Aftermath label plus 50 Cent and Eminem were going at Ja Rule with 14 other rappers, they didn't battle him alone. Canibus is the only lyrical rapper that Eminem's battled but neither of them took that battle seriously. The Stans say the top tier guys didn't diss Eminem because they have respect for him but they forget to mention that reason also applies to Eminem as Eminem didn't diss them either so they had no reason to battle him. They're not scared of Eminem there just wasn't any reason to diss him unless he dissed them first which he didn't. Eminem's disses and battles are known for being mostly against Pop stars, R&B singers and underground / unknown rappers and rappers who aren't lyrical such as Cage Vanilla Ice Miilkbone Insane Clown Posse Will Smith Christina Aguilera *Nsync Backstreet Boys Everlast Limp Bizkit Moby Jermaine Dupri Mariah Carey & Nick Cannon Benzino He didn't even battle The Game who would've gave him a good lyrical battle. Too bad Eminem didn't get involved in 50 Cent's beef with The Lox as that would've been a great battle of top tier lyricists
@@gintoki_sakata__ Too late now. Nas, Jay-Z and Eminem are all way past their prime and time of when people would've liked to see them battle if they were going to
When you're at Jay's level not everyone is worth a clear shot & the attention that comes with it... him addressing someone on MGK's level would be embarrassing tbh
@@DNKSQDTry the rapper that never sold well to Black people. Start there for most overrated. Literally the only rapper ever considered great that failed to sell to Black people
Main reason for that number 2 was it being longest period since he released an album 3 years it was delayed by Jay-Z sabotaging him as new president of Def Jam delaying his album until he lost some relevance
@@jfraz1992 Sure he's probably sold more but that 2 number 1 albums in X's first year and 5 in 5 years is unparalleled I think only The Beatles have a better record maybe someone more modern by now
This isn't a Diss towards any rapper in particular, it's a Diss towards the Media and some Hip Hop fans or "gatekeepers" saying Em isn't on that list in my opinion. Most of these rappers know Em is up there but who would openly admit that? Jay Z and others don't need to prove anything to anyone as long as they are on that list in the media's eyes but that's just for show. The real ones know.
He's not just talking about Jay Z. He also did a song with Nas and Kendrick as well. Personally I don't think that he bodied Nas and Kendrick (on their collabos) but even if some folks think that he did, that's not what determines ranking. Eminem's catalogue doesn't match up to their catalogues. And I was a fan of Eminem Show & Marshall Mathers btw
I agree. He got Kendrkck to the studio under false pretense of doing the hook while he was doing concerts in Detroit. When Kendrick did the hook, then he asked him to do a verse, kicked everyone out the studio, just to test if Kendrick had ghost writers. Em has flow to me, no substance in his rap,.
He went at Wayne too with the no ceilings bar. He even said they will be mad at him. Anybody who's ever collaborated with him or intends on it knows What it is!
@@hdaudio9374sonically?😂😂😂😂Em music doesn't get sampled for a reason. Rappers quote Jay to this day. See the recent Kendrick, Cole and Drake beef alone. Lyrically rhyming a bunch of words just to match doesn't beat actually rapping
@@hdaudio9374 He does on both fronts. Which is why he's ranked higher & Em of course has to milk something for shock value cause his music standing on its own isn't a thing anymore sir.
One of the rare moments where I can chime in. As a machinist, and any other machinist out there knows, 1mm of material is A LOT. A heavy ten thousands (.01") cut would clean up the deepest of imperfections that a worn pad could cause to a rotor. A ten thousandth cut is 0.25mm. You could do 4 passes and still be good. But you would only need 1 pass. I always had high praises for this guy's shop, but he should know better. He has mills and lathes in his shop. He decks blocks and heads so knows just as much as I do how big of a cut ten thou inch does to any surface.
@@nateooo101 Hahahahaha the black is from 2003. You are absolutely insane. Eminem has dropped some better albums than Jigga in the last 21 years. Namely Relapse and Music to be murdered by.
No one is talking about the fact that the song is named Tobie, who was the Slave I'm Roots who was forced to change his name from Kunta Kentay. Even with nonracist intentions, I feel it's bad taste for em to make that the name of a song about whipping black men in battle
Stop being a victim. The reference is Tobey Maguire. Spiderman Y'all trying to create narratives that aren't there are dumb as hell.. And you say "Tobie" when the track name is "Tobey"... Stop being woke and gain common sense
Technically working on his mind, no hate all love. Big respect to his music. He did it right. No hate hit me. It completely left the lines. And I produced the safe so nothing would hit him.
Bruh Em destroyed Canibus even when lyrically speaking Canibus had bars for days .. Em can just obliterate Jay Z unless Jay plays something beyond his regular "I'm bigger than you" arguments cause he ain't
Bro don't forget the global market that tends to affect these ratings after the US market. Blueprint is still a gem in South Africa. I'm sure these rating agencies look across the board.
@undergroundriptiles7005 You do know that Nas has dissed Eminem but Eminem ignored him right knowing very well the lyrical spanking he was going to get if he responded.
Eminem vs Jay Z - renegade Eminem wins Eminem vs Kendrick - Love game Eminem wins Eminem vs 50 cent - patiently waiting, gatman and robbin, don’t push me. Eminem wins. Eminem vs Game - We ain’t. Eminem wins. Whose best Eminem in any song ? Maybe Wayne in No Love and drop the world.
I don’t care how many records you sell….that doesn’t make a phenomenal rapper…..it’s the way your delivery & lyrical wizardry impacts the listener…… why would album sold dominate over how an artist impacts a person’s heart, ♥️ soul, & mind?!?! That makes no sense at all….we’re talking about lyrical ability & delivery + production + Swag/Style Vs. Influence & Popularity…… not buying your own stock to try to cheat your way to the top…..when no one’s watching!!!! These people creating these list are pathetic!!!!! Jay-z #1 yeah right & Beyonce sings better than Whitney Houston in the 90’s!!! Bc she sells more…….Who Cares About Record Sells???? Not the consumer!!! That is no benefit to the audience whatsoever!!!
The great rap war bet. Drake and Kendrick might be over but Jay-Z vs. Eminem will be the greatest rap beef of all time with no violence just rhymes. And it’s long overdue!
This a reach that its toward Jayz...and renegade was Royce and em it was already made so there was no rippin no one on that particular cut...I mean if that's the case then you could say that about EMs songs with pac nas and Kendrick..Em been wanting smoke with EVERyBoDY if you listen to him so if really wanted to cock back aim then he would
@SuperKillerdog black people can be very racist at times. If we was all honest he's definitely top 3 if he was black there's wouldn't be a question, #1. Black people that grew up with him, Em was everything. He's my #1 personally.
@@jahjoeka Did I bring race into it? no! but since you went there, if Eminem was black he would be a Talib, Royce, etc.. He even admits all these things in his own music. He has no album that can rival Illmatic by Nas or Reasonable doubt by Jay Z, Eminem does not have a complete album. You can only listen to one or two songs on any of his album and that is it.
Jigga is on top because he is a black man simple as. I love em but yes he is a guest in hip hop same goes from any other non black person in our genre. He is incredible and wordsmith wizard but a white man can never be the goat of hip hop Idc. U can’t go to a Japanese or middle eastern culture and be called the best of all time in whatever it is they do it just can’t run, but just Because we black anyone else is just allowed to be called the goat, no thank u. Also with jay a lot of his song ad bars hits your more the older u get meaning it more timeless. Em in my top ten however there are several old songs and 97% of all of his new songs that I cannot even remotely listen to anymore becasue they sound awful or have not aged well. Also besides just music alone is also why jay above him. Em is not over snoop dre 50 jay puff Kendrick pac biggie nas and any other black hip hop legend, but yes sure he’s a great rapper real wizard.
If he is, its obvious out of jealousy. Jay isn't even active, he out there being a dad with his family. To bring him up would show EM has to be upset of the respect Jay gets still.
The best Emcee argument tends to never end. There hasn't been many white rappers percentage wise who were extremely nice. His color plays a role to some extent.
@@MrHowse-rt5bo Are you high? Eminem has at least 3 and I would argue he has 4. Stop the Cap. Kendrick has good substance but technically he is mediocre. He still only rhymes one word at a time. His punchlines are meh and his flows are sloppy.
The title of the song combined with the stuff said within it, is a straight disrespect to black ppl as a whole. The Lord made him like that. So I’m not surprised. Touché to Em!
Based off of what was said in song, I believe the title is a front for another name to go at blacks. Yeah, a reference to Tobey Maguire that don’t got s to do with him lol. Make it make sense.
He wasn't talking about Jay-Z, he was talking about Drake because before he said wash him, he mentioned Melly Mel and Melly being ovo stan during the Kendrick beef and said Drake the GOAT. Remember, the song is called Toby mocking 1st person shooter.
Only a Eminem fan boy would believe the nonsense you just shit out Royce couldn’t even stick to the theme of the song as well as jay let alone have better lyricism Please gtfo here 😂
Also i have to add, eminem has one of if not the worst legacy as far as impact on hip hop goes. His success generated so many lame rappers and songs, angry speedrap/cornball music for people that dont really listen to rap
When you go into a rap beef your catalogues doesn't matter..... it's the bars they aim at each other. It's not about their music albums they previously produced. Honestly I don't trust Jay Z's pen at all.....there I said it.
Since eminem is over rated, maybe this is jay z's chance to put an end to things.. He never showed up to hip hop 50th celebration. He can redeem himself by ending eminem
All I know is after seeing how Kendrick fanboys acted during the Drake beef, like they were like Taylor swift “swifters” super fanned out. It remind also me of how ferocious the Em fans “Stans” get so I hope there isn’t any real beef cuz I don’t wanna go through reading these fan letters again
False lol. Em vs Jay I can give you that but a year or two JayZ had it especially with his brand Rockefella and all the artists that was under him. He put out classic albums that aged well and a lot of hip hop got him in their top 5.
I think there are classes kinda like graduation years. Em, Jay, Nas, Pac and Big are one class. Kendrick, Drake, Cole, Nicki and Wayne(who lead his class)are another class. And so on and so on. I don’t subscribe to the one guy is the best mentality because theee are other rappers who have had as much an impact. Jay is the best business man, Pac is the best artist, Nas is the most insightful, Drake is the best at hits and the only one who made his millions off of records alone which is a feat in and of itself, Kendrick single handedly elevated west coast MCs(not rappers) and showed that you can stay true to self, maintain integrity and still go pop and so on and so on.
The song was written and produced by eminem, although Jay-Z obviously wrote his own verses this is a obviously a eminem song which is why ems verses sound more in tune with the beat
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I’m not sure why you think this is limited to just Jay-Z? He’s saying, everyone who is above him on that list, who he has been on a song with, he ripped. His reference is plural.
Because renegade was a huge thing when it dropped that was the talk in hip hop .
he said it is someone who he already beat..
He did Love Game with Kendrick but I don't think he ripped him. Kendrick held his own.
@@freedommhe did a record with nas, don't think he killed anyone on it. Even in the event he did, Nas stands above all, with the exception of rakim.
Because of the Empire State lines before that. And the song length is 4:44
Em did not diss the guy... He stated a fact.
I'm more of an eminem fan than a jay z fan, but I actually liked jayz's verse more than eminem's in that song... it's probably my favourite thing jay z has done lol
Yea J was better.
yeah, im a fan of both but em verse is better
true eminem did wash him
Eminem is “a candle in the sun” compared to Jay. It just “don’t even out…”
It's clear Eminem just wants the respect.
He doesn't deserve it though
@@DarkerPhoenix1actually he deserve it. It is obvious that he have rap better than the most rappers that he have collab but he still not considered as one of the greatest because he is white
@@DarkerPhoenix1 hahaha go on then.
Let's hear the reasons.
@@alextsitsi9934 The one industry where white people are casting themselves as victims..
Then he should have responded to The Game instead of dissing Melle Mel … Em is a complete fraud
Eminem is going at Jay because when Nore told the story of Jay telling him “The White boy won’t do the Super Bowl half-time show without 50 Cent.” It was condescending…
Jay been calling him “white boy” since the Blueprint 😂 it’s nothing new 🤷🏾♂️
It is nothing to do with that Jay-Z and Eminem are cool foh 😂
I get it because I don’t tolerate being called white boy to my face
@@daniel_debo cool as fuck, 50 is cool wit Jay too, it’s just the tradition of competition between the 2 of them
@@ColdJelly19 50 cool with Jay-Z 🤣🤣🤣 no he isn't 50 got Jay-Z name in his mouth man is salty
Jay-Z couldn't beat Em's old Renegade lyrics from the original version with Royce Da 59. let that sink in
Disagree but Royce og version is dope
@@arizonaFIREenthow do you disagree when that's what happened 😂
FOH. Hov verse was way better. He was talking real s*** while Eminem was talking about whistling dixie?? Gtfoh with that corny a** s***
@troll4truth213 Royce verses were better than Jay-Z.
@@troll4truth213 Cocaine is a hell of a drug!
J is not top 5 period. Y'all riding hov thinking so
Bruh u a grown man this is a OPINIONATED DEBATE MAN. That phrase you use is corny my man you gotta grow up
I agree about Jay Z....he is not an elite MC !!!
Top 5, maybe? #1 is delusion tho, I am surprised lil Wayne is #7 tho ngl.
Fax 💯
Jay Z is not top 5? Do you people really listen to music or you just skim through it. You gotta really peep what he's saying
It goes: Reggie, Jay-Z, 2Pac & Biggie
André from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, & then me”
-“Till I Collapse”
Battle rap and beef rap are two different things. Idk why ppl say yiur too old to rap but any other genre u can grow old and still put music out
It's funny how y'all misinterpret lyrics. Eminem did not diss Jay Z. Y'all trying to start some shit up. Em and Jay are cool with each other.
Excalty people are talking shit
People love doing that shit. And they didn't even quote the exact words.
He didn’t diss him, just explained that Jay-Z is higher on a list than him, even though he ripped him.
It was a direct shot at Jay. Read the lyrics man, it's so obvious.
@@__D-B__ Em would have said Jay Z's name if he was going at his head. Em was simply being competitive on the track. It's part of the sport. Him and Jay are cool. Anyway I like how he got y'all talking. It hypes up his album roll out effectively
Snoop Dogg in the top 10 of all time lmao that’s one of the worst lists I’ve seen
Lmao fo shizzle dizzle.
I Don't Think Snoop Top 50
Bro Nicki Minaj and Snoop ??? No Cole ?? Its a clown show
@@sihlemabuza6455Nicki can rap!
Facts considering he doesn't write his own raps
DMX is way better than Jay Z
So is red man
Nahhh
He’s better than Eminem.
Deshaun said X was better but he lied👎🏾
@@timxavier8922Now YOU may have an arguement
Em stans are not hip-hop fans
Facts
Right mf said K dot not number 2 like is he cool bro just proved y he the best by taking down drake could em do that fuck no I don’t even got him beating k dot in a battle
Kendrick isnt top 5 top 10 yes @@hgmab5202
@@hgmab5202 Drake is the biggest clown in music, he doesn't even write his own stuff. You're talking like he's a juggernaut in the rap game, he's barely even a rapper.
Any evidence? Back it up
That was a political list controlled by jay 😂
Lol 💯
Paid for that #1 spot.
Em is not taking ahots. U reaching boy
Reaching for sure. I did not interpret this at all.
Certainly sounds like it
@azaz6823 Excalty Jay-Z and Em are cool people are foolish Em said what he said and people think he dissed Jay-Z foolishness 🤣
@@daniel_debo It's clearly a shot at Jay. You kids are clueless man.
Man put some respect on The Beastie Boys…..Paul Wall and El-P’s name’s……
@@RichiePo the beastie boys were truly the amazing way better than people remember
The beastie boys was never a factor in hip hop. They were the hip hop parody of Run DMC.
No you didn't mention Beastie Boys 🤣
Or MC Serch from 3rd bass
Eminem and Jay Z are my top 2 fav rap artists, as much as I would love to see them clash, I don't think Jay Z is in that space right now, so he'll ignore this. Em could be talking about the other artists that was placed above him too
This is what happens when people who aren't part of the culture try to rank people within the culture.
People actually comparing Em to Jay is crazy to me. Jay a rapper's rapper. Who's the best MCs Biggie, Jay Z and Nas
@@Dmaj089 I actually think Eminem is more of a rapper's rapper than Jay Z.
@@wafeeqzarif 💀 damn, what a sad world we live in if you believe that
He already killed your boy 20 years ago lol. Wtf you talking about @@Dmaj089
@@Dmaj089 Em definitely is more of a rapper's rapper than Jay z
Jay z only big in America
Never ever heard anyone even mention him or heard any of his songs on the radio (exept the new york one ofc)
He is well known outside America as Beyonce's Husband.
Lmaoooo um hate to break it to you but he is
Jay Z is not as big worldwide as Eminem, cry about it.
he’s not known in America either he’s not that good and always sucked. Had a few songs here and there and wasn’t ever on top in any of the years he had music
@@DNKSQD he’s not they’ll be like who the fook is that guy unless they know beyonce and even then they won’t know that thing is with beyonce ha
"And Em murdered you on your own shit". The goat Nas been in the game 30 years and dropped 6 back to back fire albums. JAY hasn't dropped since 2017. And you forgot the battle with Ja lol
@@DarkshadowXD63 The album he dropped more critically acclaimed than Nas and Em's recent albums. Nas number 2 on my list just behind Jay.
What year was Jay #1 in hip hop?
JA WHO?
Jay hasn’t dropped since ‘17, and Eminem hasn’t made anything worth listening to since ‘02.
@@treyvonlegette3914, what year was Nas number 1?
I just don’t understand how Eminem constantly switches between saying he doesn’t care about a top 5 spot, critics, and trophies but when he doesn’t like what spot he’s at, what critics says and what awards he doesn’t win he gets mad?
We take these rappers too seriously. They human and get in their feelings 😂
@@omeyiin1626 Exactly. When you look at this from this perspective, it all adds up. They ain't special. Everyone gets in their feelings at one point or another.
He is asking a question?
If someone say lil dicky is better than 2pac should we just accept their opinion?
Id just say this..he's a battle rapper. No matter the age. He ll always be in that freakin competition mode
Kendrick spoke about love and coming together only to come out saying "well let me say I'm the biggest hater"
The man had mr morale speaking on some therapy shit but now he's stepping on drakes grave 😂.. Let rappers be people
Royce Said it's not à diss but that's clearly damage control. It's a diss . Eminem clearly respects Jay but he's In competition mode for his album
jayz sucks and Eminem is still in his prime and will take out everyone including your favorite rapper.
@@missingtexture98 I bet you dont know squat because its evident
Royce is a clown he always trying to speak on behalf of Eminem he’s always trying to be Eminem’s cheerleader to actually working on his music
@@missingtexture98not only is you missing texture, you're missing facts
@@missingtexture98
As a grown man who tried listening to his album… that shit was mid. Thats middle aged NYC man music.
Em is a better rapper than Jay. If you don't wanna believe that, go listen to Renegade and tell me Jay didn't get his ass handed to him by the white boy.
Em wasn't dissing Jay or anyone in that track. He was stating facts.
EM never beefs with anyone unless they start with him.
Hov is better period!!Hov's a living legend and I tell you why,everybody wants to be Hov and Hov is still alive
No.
Hell na😅
Haters
Better in what?
@@PartTime-re9iz Rapping
Eminem has already put THE FUCKIN BELT to Jay Z YEARS AGO !! On Renegade...and his lyricism has somehow only gotten better! With much respect to Tupac & Biggie . Eminem is no doubt the greatest rappers of all time . And I very very highly doubt he will ever be passed. He will be on fuckin Egyptian pyramids!😂
I honestly hope it does turn into a rap battle i would love to see it
Jay Z ain't got time for Em....Jay Z will most likely always be put above Eminem
@@spicyhot2552 lol gayz is trash 🗑️ asf I dare him to diss em
@@SerenaOsas Well thats your opinion..I don't like the sound of Eminem's voice ..it's annoying like chalk on a chalkboard...Jay Z is dope to ME
@@spicyhot2552 tell gayz to come at em let him try since he’s the better rapper I dare him and his supporters let em and gayz diss battle
@@SerenaOsas Em & Jay are both over 50 ..Jay is in a different place now
Both of these rappers may be the greatest lyrist to a lot people. But I like music that I can feel. The Best Rapper To Me Is The G.O.A.T. 2PAC SHAKUR🅰️➕
I wouldn't mind Em going in all of them cause that's how dope he is.
He had his chance to go at Jay and Nas in his prime. Nas was the first to say that Em washed Jay on Renegade. Em didn't like that back then; he was trying to fit in.
@@envyops lol gay z wouldn’t dare diss em except he want to get murderd idgaf if em white yellow or blue he’s 10000 times better than gay z is only poplar because of beyonce
@@envyops em will destroy gayz tf I dare him to take a shot at em
Nas would destroy Eminem
@@jonathancoleman6482 lol 😂 boy byee nas a legend of course but he can only try oh and em already washed nas on his own song
Eminem will never understand, " jay z aint animated like say a busta rhymes, but the real it you get when you bust down my lines" Eminem has flow, but no substance, em is not better than nas , rakim or jay, Eminem is not even better than twista iykyk
Eminem better than all of em
@@undergroundriptiles7005 rapping about killing your mother and child's mother just doesn't hit smh 🤦🤡
@@filaspeaks1094 you should see what biggie and others rap about then because its worse and definitely dont hit what a jester
@@undergroundriptiles7005 stop deflecting 🤡
Don't ever talk hip hop again ever!
Why?
Even Big Sean said "watch the throne" which is Kanye and Jay Album so I think you might be actually right
NO RAPPER BLACK OR WHITE IS SUCCESSFUL AS THE RAP GOD IN MUSIC
Amen.
Em is in my top 5 but even he has told you why he has sold so much. He's told you multiple times. He rarely brings up his success when claiming to be the best, he brings up his skill level. Because he knows why the numbers are what they are, which makes it debatable, but he doesn't believe in his heart that another rapper can fuck with him. And I respect him for that. He's said that he knows that he has tons of fans that aren't into Hip-hop, they're into him, which kinds of fucks him up because he LOVES Hip-hop and thought his success would get more people into it but instead they never venture past his music and even actively shit on the people and culture that he loves and looks up to. But it is what it is I guess 🤷🏾♂
@@casualslax If there was 1 other WHITE rapper with his success or HALF his success that point can be made but here in 2024 the RAP GOD numbers at age 51 we have the answer now
What was your favorite rapper doing at age 51 not putting up the RAP GOD NUMBERS or half or a quarter of his numbers color doesn’t matter
A lot of people favorite rappers are not beating other black rappers that are GLOBAL
Jay-Z or NAS can’t be #1 not Global enough to beat other black rappers
NOBODY is global enough to beat the RAP GOD
Please check into 2024
2000 to 2010 is a long time ago
@@casualslax Here is the Top 10 most global artists of all-time list:
1. Michael Jackson - 260 languages
2. The Beatles - 208 languages
3. The Carpenters - 195 languages
4. The Doors - 181 languages
5. Elvis Presley, Queen - 177 languages
7. Lady Gaga - 163 languages
8. Eminem, Justin Bieber - 153 languages
10. ABBA - 150 languages
If you are looking for other rappers on the list, you will struggle to find them. Hip hop superstars Drake and Jay-Z are tied on 73 languages and didn’t make it to the Top 60. 2Pac (103 languages) ranked at No. 55. And that is all. Once again, the gap between Eminem and everybody else in the genre is mind-boggling.
Eminem, the rap god himself, shattered barriers and made hip hop a global language. From anthems like “My Name Is” to modern bangers like “Houdini”, his music transcended borders.
@@casualslax Here is the Top 10 most global artists of all-time list:
1. Michael Jackson - 260 languages
2. The Beatles - 208 languages
3. The Carpenters - 195 languages
4. The Doors - 181 languages
5. Elvis Presley, Queen - 177 languages
7. Lady Gaga - 163 languages
8. Eminem, Justin Bieber - 153 languages
10. ABBA - 150 languages
If you are looking for other rappers on the list, you will struggle to find them. Hip hop superstars Drake and Jay-Z are tied on 73 languages and didn’t make it to the Top 60. 2Pac (103 languages) ranked at No. 55. And that is all. Once again, the gap between Eminem and everybody else in the genre is mind-boggling.
Eminem, the rap god himself, shattered barriers and made hip hop a global language. From anthems like “My Name Is” to modern bangers like “Houdini”, his music transcended borders.
The slept on floors part is probably in reference to what Lord Jamal was talking about with Rah Digga when The Outsidaz use to make Em sleep on the floor when he came out to Jersey
Em would school him with the diddy links
Cause Dr. Dre not involved in anything
And all the paid hit outs they did.
@@corrae99hahahahhahahaha bruh😭 dre went thru his shit so longg ago w his ex lnao diddy having freak offs n hosting them him n jay are mad tight lol dre isnt tight w diddy nice try
@@Vani11agorilla Em find that's kind of stuff funny... "Azz like Dat"? Yikes
@@corrae99exactly
4:33 that’s a hell of a point 🤔 I love it❤
Jay-Z was never in my top 5
Jay-Z is a good rapper, but he'll never be my top five
Well, he´s above Eminem any day.
@@HangmanSwe lol boy byee u will gayz is only no to be business man I dare gayz to diss em since he’s better than em
@@SerenaOsas You write like a 12 year old boy so it's impossible for me to take you serious.
Not even in top 10. Blokes a flop
There’s a difference between dissin’ somebody and just defending your legacy and rockin’ that old braggadocio, which is what MC’s do in hip hop. And Eminem arguably has spent more of his career being self-deprecating for humor, humble, and givin’ props to others that repping himself.
It's not a diss, it's just facts tbh
em stans are not hip hop fans. stick to your death metal and your blink 182, colonizer.
Its interesting that these lists never have rappers that are considered underground or not mainstream. I know ablum sales and popularity factor in, but people never bring up rappers like Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks, R.A. The Rugged Man, A.F.R.O, MF Doom, Tech N9ne, Armosphere, and so on. Im not saying these guys are necessarily in the GOAT conversation, but it seems like everybody forgets the undergound in general when making these lists. Again im not saying artists like Immortal Technique or Doom will ever have the impact on hip hop that Eminem and Jay Z have, but the impact of the underground in general is still so important to so many hip hop fans and the culture as a whole. Interested to see what everybody else has to think about this
Discography vs Discography Hov clears
3:06 that’s a hell of a play in words by Eminem I love it❤
What em album is better than RD blueprint or black album?
Eminem show the Marshall mathers lp sto the meat ridin
@@Larrylarrs good albums but no. The material doesn't age well.
@@Trudonsold more too lmfao worldwide jay z isnt known
@Tamilz yes he is. Take it you're in the states. He's massive here in the uk. Sold more who cares? Soulja boy sold more music than rakim. He better?
All of em ha
Yes Em is great but … there are black artists who rap just as good and they don’t get the same love. White ppl are gonna identify with their own in a culture full of ppl who don’t look like them
DM, you overestimate the value of your opinion. Not all rappers are battlers. You Stans are pathetic. Hiphop actually is very different from hiphop in your minds. Switch to pop and have peace.
Look at you acting all high and mighty 😂
Take your own opinion and apply it to yourself. You didn't write didn't write the rules of hip hop. You didn't do anything to progress it.
The issue here is that when trusted bodies like Billboard speak, they speak the mind of the culture (most times), not run-off-the-mill listeners or Stans. This top 5 ranking is acceptable to me and many. Why? Because shady is only good enough to titillate the hearing sense. Other than that, it's all non-essentials.
@@imsodone5737do you mean what you hear from em doesn’t speak to what black culture feels like?
He does talk about struggles and and I guess his own mental health I’ll give him that.
But if you ever see the Black Thought, Mos def, Em cypher you can see how he raps about nonsensical things but he’s very articulate in his rhythms. It sounds cool but I hear mos def and black thought it felt deeper to me
He didn't diss anybody. He's telling a FACT.
He may not be everyone's favourite rapper but to me there's no doubt eminem is the best ever. His rhyme schemes are unmatched, The flows and cadence, His delivery is immaculate. To me he's number 1.
Each to there own though
8:16 Eminem has never battled any top tier rappers or any great rappers aside from Ja Rule but that beef was really between 50 Cent & Ja Rule. Eminem only became involved after he signed 50 Cent to the Shady/Aftermath label plus 50 Cent and Eminem were going at Ja Rule with 14 other rappers, they didn't battle him alone. Canibus is the only lyrical rapper that Eminem's battled but neither of them took that battle seriously. The Stans say the top tier guys didn't diss Eminem because they have respect for him but they forget to mention that reason also applies to Eminem as Eminem didn't diss them either so they had no reason to battle him. They're not scared of Eminem there just wasn't any reason to diss him unless he dissed them first which he didn't. Eminem's disses and battles are known for being mostly against Pop stars, R&B singers and underground / unknown rappers and rappers who aren't lyrical such as
Cage
Vanilla Ice
Miilkbone
Insane Clown Posse
Will Smith
Christina Aguilera
*Nsync
Backstreet Boys
Everlast
Limp Bizkit
Moby
Jermaine Dupri
Mariah Carey & Nick Cannon
Benzino
He didn't even battle The Game who would've gave him a good lyrical battle. Too bad Eminem didn't get involved in 50 Cent's beef with The Lox as that would've been a great battle of top tier lyricists
Which is why a battle with Jay or Nas or Kendrick would redeem this streak
@@gintoki_sakata__ Too late now. Nas, Jay-Z and Eminem are all way past their prime and time of when people would've liked to see them battle if they were going to
When you're at Jay's level not everyone is worth a clear shot & the attention that comes with it... him addressing someone on MGK's level would be embarrassing tbh
Eminem cleared JayZ yearrrrs agooo. Jay Z the most overrated rapper of all time.
@@Myke3362 Em and MGK aren't on the same level 😂 Stop being delusional and Em out rapped Jay Z on Renegade 😎
@@DNKSQDTry the rapper that never sold well to Black people. Start there for most overrated. Literally the only rapper ever considered great that failed to sell to Black people
Em is corny, his music always comes with these gimmicks
@@DNKSQD What does Em do that other rappers don't do LOL, Lupe, Nas, Hov, Black Thought etc. Punclines, metaphors, double etc
I never thought he washed jay on renegade, jays 2nd verse was so raw
DMX is higher than Jay-Z most successful hip hop artist of all time 5 number 1 albums in 5 years followed by a number 2 album
Main reason for that number 2 was it being longest period since he released an album 3 years it was delayed by Jay-Z sabotaging him as new president of Def Jam delaying his album until he lost some relevance
Eminem actually sold the most
@@jfraz1992 Sure he's probably sold more but that 2 number 1 albums in X's first year and 5 in 5 years is unparalleled I think only The Beatles have a better record maybe someone more modern by now
Em, lil wayne, Kendrick, pac, nicki are my top 5 🔥🔥🔥
Let them battle Eminem will dust Jay-Z
jayz knows as it’s happened few times. Like many others he don’t want it
Rap is a competition Eminem is coming for everyone to cement his legacy as a rap god before he bows out
He has to drop atleast 1 classic album
This isn't a Diss towards any rapper in particular, it's a Diss towards the Media and some Hip Hop fans or "gatekeepers" saying Em isn't on that list in my opinion. Most of these rappers know Em is up there but who would openly admit that? Jay Z and others don't need to prove anything to anyone as long as they are on that list in the media's eyes but that's just for show. The real ones know.
It is cuz he sayin he better than them so he dissin the media & rappers
TO BEY or not TO🐝 .Track length 4.44, 2017 Jzs Album . Artwork cover 3 men wearing Air Jordan 4's.Thats before the VIDEO...
He's not just talking about Jay Z. He also did a song with Nas and Kendrick as well. Personally I don't think that he bodied Nas and Kendrick (on their collabos) but even if some folks think that he did, that's not what determines ranking. Eminem's catalogue doesn't match up to their catalogues. And I was a fan of Eminem Show & Marshall Mathers btw
I agree. He got Kendrkck to the studio under false pretense of doing the hook while he was doing concerts in Detroit. When Kendrick did the hook, then he asked him to do a verse, kicked everyone out the studio, just to test if Kendrick had ghost writers. Em has flow to me, no substance in his rap,.
Kendrick is like Eminem’s little nephew.. no way bro
He went at Wayne too with the no ceilings bar. He even said they will be mad at him. Anybody who's ever collaborated with him or intends on it knows What it is!
Don't get me wrong jay z has a decent catalog but haha dang dude isn't even top 10
He's universally higher than Em. Realying on shock value, beefing with tweens & rappers on MGK's level ages like milk sir.
@@Myke3362he ain’t touching em lyrically and sonically lol
@@hdaudio9374sonically?😂😂😂😂Em music doesn't get sampled for a reason. Rappers quote Jay to this day. See the recent Kendrick, Cole and Drake beef alone. Lyrically rhyming a bunch of words just to match doesn't beat actually rapping
@@hdaudio9374 He does on both fronts. Which is why he's ranked higher & Em of course has to milk something for shock value cause his music standing on its own isn't a thing anymore sir.
Agreed jayz is no great he’s medium at best most don’t even know who he is outside of America
Nice try Diddy - Jay Z - Beyonce womp womp 🦆
Em did not wash Jay on renegade
Keep telling yourself that
😂😂😂
Not a jay fan but nobody said em washed him until "Ether"
@@arizonaFIREent that was an actual diss song tho this different it was just a song they made together.
Yes he did
One of the rare moments where I can chime in. As a machinist, and any other machinist out there knows, 1mm of material is A LOT. A heavy ten thousands (.01") cut would clean up the deepest of imperfections that a worn pad could cause to a rotor. A ten thousandth cut is 0.25mm. You could do 4 passes and still be good. But you would only need 1 pass. I always had high praises for this guy's shop, but he should know better. He has mills and lathes in his shop. He decks blocks and heads so knows just as much as I do how big of a cut ten thou inch does to any surface.
I think u commented on the wrong video??
I like how the em fans try to compare careers by a track cuz when it comes to discography and artistry they know they will fail
By what measurements? Your personal opinion? Because by real world measurements Jay is not even remotely close to Em.
@@tobimontana61 artistically em is mid at best but Jay is great
@@nateooo101 Name the last great Jay-Z album. Spoilers: 4:44 wasn't it.
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj the black album which still is closer than Em's last album 😂
@@nateooo101 Hahahahaha the black is from 2003. You are absolutely insane. Eminem has dropped some better albums than Jigga in the last 21 years. Namely Relapse and Music to be murdered by.
This is off topic but where’s BLACKYSPEAKZ?? He hasnt been on social or YT
No one is talking about the fact that the song is named Tobie, who was the Slave I'm Roots who was forced to change his name from Kunta Kentay. Even with nonracist intentions, I feel it's bad taste for em to make that the name of a song about whipping black men in battle
Shut up
Why? Em has been fending off racist attacks his entire career just because he is white.🤷
That's slim shady bro
Stop being a victim. The reference is Tobey Maguire. Spiderman
Y'all trying to create narratives that aren't there are dumb as hell.. And you say "Tobie" when the track name is "Tobey"... Stop being woke and gain common sense
It’s about Spider-Man, chill. Stop being a victim. You ain’t no slave and you will never know that life.
Technically working on his mind, no hate all love. Big respect to his music. He did it right. No hate hit me. It completely left the lines. And I produced the safe so nothing would hit him.
Jay dont even hardly rap anymore , stays out the way, but people still keep his name in hia mouth, I dont get it
Can't be shocked, pac been gone for almost 30 years and they keep his name in their mouths
Me neither....Jay-Z that Jay-Z this, get off Jay-Z d@#k!
Bruh Em destroyed Canibus even when lyrically speaking Canibus had bars for days .. Em can just obliterate Jay Z unless Jay plays something beyond his regular "I'm bigger than you" arguments cause he ain't
TEAM EMINEM 🔥 Jay Z is over rated !!! In a rap beef Em is a beast !!!
Typical Casual 😂
Name one rap beef that Eminem beasted in…
@@MrHowse-rt5bo boy stfu u sound dumb
@@MrHowse-rt5bo come 🫴🏻 with diss to em then we will see . Jay will be burnt more black then he is .
Bro don't forget the global market that tends to affect these ratings after the US market. Blueprint is still a gem in South Africa. I'm sure these rating agencies look across the board.
He also has a song with Nas, EPMD 2
Yeah so, he could be taking shots at Nas or Jay it's tricky
@@Sensei_shaun3310 Eminem would never take chances with Nas.
He already smoked Nas and the rest of them too
@@Sensei_shaun3310even Kendrick was put above him
Not gonna lie, I'd like to see him against all 3 of them
@undergroundriptiles7005 You do know that Nas has dissed Eminem but Eminem ignored him right knowing very well the lyrical spanking he was going to get if he responded.
Eminem vs Jay Z - renegade Eminem wins
Eminem vs Kendrick - Love game Eminem wins
Eminem vs 50 cent - patiently waiting, gatman and robbin, don’t push me. Eminem wins.
Eminem vs Game - We ain’t. Eminem wins.
Whose best Eminem in any song ?
Maybe Wayne in No Love and drop the world.
I don’t care how many records you sell….that doesn’t make a phenomenal rapper…..it’s the way your delivery & lyrical wizardry impacts the listener…… why would album sold dominate over how an artist impacts a person’s heart, ♥️ soul, & mind?!?! That makes no sense at all….we’re talking about lyrical ability & delivery + production + Swag/Style Vs. Influence & Popularity…… not buying your own stock to try to cheat your way to the top…..when no one’s watching!!!! These people creating these list are pathetic!!!!! Jay-z #1 yeah right & Beyonce sings better than Whitney Houston in the 90’s!!! Bc she sells more…….Who Cares About Record Sells???? Not the consumer!!! That is no benefit to the audience whatsoever!!!
Ha! Lyrical wizardy and delivery are EXACTLY the reason why Em bodied Jay on Renegade.
The great rap war bet. Drake and Kendrick might be over but Jay-Z vs. Eminem will be the greatest rap beef of all time with no violence just rhymes. And it’s long overdue!
Marshall will mop the floor with Mr. CAMEL
Please. Y’all still in denial about “Killshot” being trash.
@@MrHowse-rt5bo stfu boy I dare gayz to diss em
This a reach that its toward Jayz...and renegade was Royce and em it was already made so there was no rippin no one on that particular cut...I mean if that's the case then you could say that about EMs songs with pac nas and Kendrick..Em been wanting smoke with EVERyBoDY if you listen to him so if really wanted to cock back aim then he would
Real top 10 list (culturally)
#1 2Pac
#2 BIG
#3 Em
#4 J
#5 Nas
#6 Wayne
#7 Drake
#8 50
#9 Kenny
#10 Snoop
Yo number nine should be up there near the top three
No one in the culture think Eminem is Top 5 . Nobody in the culture thinks Drake is better than Kenny! No one.
@SuperKillerdog black people can be very racist at times. If we was all honest he's definitely top 3 if he was black there's wouldn't be a question, #1. Black people that grew up with him, Em was everything. He's my #1 personally.
@kennymcauliffe4541 guy drops a hot verse every 30 months or something. If there wasn't this beef, we wouldn't be discussing him.
@@jahjoeka Did I bring race into it? no! but since you went there, if Eminem was black he would be a Talib, Royce, etc.. He even admits all these things in his own music. He has no album that can rival Illmatic by Nas or Reasonable doubt by Jay Z, Eminem does not have a complete album. You can only listen to one or two songs on any of his album and that is it.
Jigga is on top because he is a black man simple as. I love em but yes he is a guest in hip hop same goes from any other non black person in our genre. He is incredible and wordsmith wizard but a white man can never be the goat of hip hop Idc. U can’t go to a Japanese or middle eastern culture and be called the best of all time in whatever it is they do it just can’t run, but just Because we black anyone else is just allowed to be called the goat, no thank u. Also with jay a lot of his song ad bars hits your more the older u get meaning it more timeless. Em in my top ten however there are several old songs and 97% of all of his new songs that I cannot even remotely listen to anymore becasue they sound awful or have not aged well. Also besides just music alone is also why jay above him. Em is not over snoop dre 50 jay puff Kendrick pac biggie nas and any other black hip hop legend, but yes sure he’s a great rapper real wizard.
He not dissing Hov he knows better And Em no where better than Jay-z real hip hop heads know
lol em take a shot at gay z I dare gayz to diss em let him try
If he is, its obvious out of jealousy. Jay isn't even active, he out there being a dad with his family. To bring him up would show EM has to be upset of the respect Jay gets still.
@@Alkheezy lol em just dare gayz to come at him gayz wouldn’t even dare did you just said em jealous of gayz that is the funniest shit I have ever 👂
@@SerenaOsasserena hurry up and turn 18 let your brain develop a bit more atleast
@@Alkheezyyou’re right
The best Emcee argument tends to never end. There hasn't been many white rappers percentage wise who were extremely nice. His color plays a role to some extent.
I wonder how anyone can put Kendrick over Em or Wayne.? 💩
Seriously. Lil wayne is number 1
Kendrick can't be top 5 if he only has 4 songs every 5 years.
Kendrick is way overrated.
Wayne is way overrated. No substance in his music
Easily. One could argue Kendrick having four classics. Em has one, and Wayne got a few, but the substance matter.
@@MrHowse-rt5bo Are you high? Eminem has at least 3 and I would argue he has 4. Stop the Cap. Kendrick has good substance but technically he is mediocre. He still only rhymes one word at a time. His punchlines are meh and his flows are sloppy.
Em been killing everybody in the top five but he still getting called top five lmao Krazy
Jay's catalogue is still way better. One verse doesn't change that vato.
Hovs catalogue? Songs, please😂
@@hdaudio9374Hov's catalog washes any rapper bruh. You gotta listen for yourself from track to track, not just singles.
@@hdaudio9374 Devils, No Hook, Where I'm From, What more can I say, Family Fued. Start there vato then thank me
Eminem greater than jay z period.
@@bombfirst157Not according to the general consensus... Shock value never ages well tbh
Real list of top 10 #1 lyrical-T #2 eminem #3 2pac #4 eazy-E #5 biggie #6 lil Wayne #7 lil flip #8 LL cool J #9 jay-z #10 DRAKE facts hurts the ego
The only reason we are talking about gay z is because 2pac and biggie,big l got killed
Holy shit! This is a battle i would love to see at this moment. Seriously!
First of all how tf is Kendrick #2?! No way it’s definitely recency bias. And Jay #1 nah imo top 7-8
The title of the song combined with the stuff said within it, is a straight disrespect to black ppl as a whole. The Lord made him like that. So I’m not surprised. Touché to Em!
A reference to Tobey Maguire playing Spider-Man is disrespect to black people? Are you smoking crack?
Based off of what was said in song, I believe the title is a front for another name to go at blacks. Yeah, a reference to Tobey Maguire that don’t got s to do with him lol. Make it make sense.
Ngl I was thinking the same thing
kendrick is at 2 wtf who made this list that’s silly
He wasn't talking about Jay-Z, he was talking about Drake because before he said wash him, he mentioned Melly Mel and Melly being ovo stan during the Kendrick beef and said Drake the GOAT. Remember, the song is called Toby mocking 1st person shooter.
Not only did Em outdo Jay-Z on Renegade... Royce's verses on his version were better and Jay was the last guy to record his verses on it.
😂😂😂
Only a Eminem fan boy would believe the nonsense you just shit out
Royce couldn’t even stick to the theme of the song as well as jay let alone have better lyricism
Please gtfo here 😂
Eminem said he doesn't sneak diss but he is been sneak dissing not only Jay-Z but Drake, Kanye and Wayne more than once
Hes better because his music did not turn horrible through the years like eminems did
Stans are gonna start sending plant based pineapple pizzas to your mother's house in 3, 2..
Also i have to add, eminem has one of if not the worst legacy as far as impact on hip hop goes. His success generated so many lame rappers and songs, angry speedrap/cornball music for people that dont really listen to rap
@@lz1860this is true but he also influenced some of the top rappers. Kdot, J Cole, etc
@@lz1860yeah. Tell me you don’t know hip-hop without telling me you don’t know hip-hop 🤡
When you go into a rap beef your catalogues doesn't matter..... it's the bars they aim at each other. It's not about their music albums they previously produced. Honestly I don't trust Jay Z's pen at all.....there I said it.
I know this is a small thing, but did you just say Paul Wall was a great rapper? 😂 he never said one single thing that made me say damn.
Problem is Eminem is overrated , Quake. His colour being in his favour can't be overlooked.
Lmao ok there cry on
Since eminem is over rated, maybe this is jay z's chance to put an end to things.. He never showed up to hip hop 50th celebration. He can redeem himself by ending eminem
@@gintoki_sakata__ I agree.
All I know is after seeing how Kendrick fanboys acted during the Drake beef, like they were like Taylor swift “swifters” super fanned out. It remind also me of how ferocious the Em fans “Stans” get so I hope there isn’t any real beef cuz I don’t wanna go through reading these fan letters again
Eminem washed Jay Z on Renegade. That’s facts. Jay Z was never the hottest rapper or best rapper in any year. How is he #1 now? GTFOH
Ahh yes 23 years ago... Now He's desperate to the point of beefing with MGK.
False lol. Em vs Jay I can give you that but a year or two JayZ had it especially with his brand Rockefella and all the artists that was under him. He put out classic albums that aged well and a lot of hip hop got him in their top 5.
Exactly even in his prime jay z wasn’t the best he terrible
@@undergroundriptiles7005 false lol.
@@cmbrock1 True Lmao
I think there are classes kinda like graduation years.
Em, Jay, Nas, Pac and Big are one class.
Kendrick, Drake, Cole, Nicki and Wayne(who lead his class)are another class.
And so on and so on.
I don’t subscribe to the one guy is the best mentality because theee are other rappers who have had as much an impact. Jay is the best business man, Pac is the best artist, Nas is the most insightful, Drake is the best at hits and the only one who made his millions off of records alone which is a feat in and of itself, Kendrick single handedly elevated west coast MCs(not rappers) and showed that you can stay true to self, maintain integrity and still go pop and so on and so on.
Let's be real here, Jay at #1 is a f'kn JOKE.
The song was written and produced by eminem, although Jay-Z obviously wrote his own verses this is a obviously a eminem song which is why ems verses sound more in tune with the beat
blueprint is such a fire album
better than ems entire discography
Naw
Nope Eminem Show
Exactly
Honestly, Tupac is only ranked higher bc he died an early age. He wasn't that good.