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    Well, here we go again. Since our last video, many more concerning details on the ATF Final Rule regarding Stabilizing Braces have come to light. These new details show that not even the ATF has a clue how their own rule works.
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  • @Angl0sax0nknight
    @Angl0sax0nknight 2 роки тому +543

    Just remember what the ATF did to Waco and Ruby Ridge. The body count by ATF and FBI of innocent people has continued to increase. Why would anyone trust them?

    • @petyrbaelish1216
      @petyrbaelish1216 2 роки тому

      They killed a bunch of degenerates in the desert, who cares.

    • @turtletruth
      @turtletruth 2 роки тому

      Delusional police believe they are bestowed God-given ultimate authority over man is the work of Satan and Narcissism, not Romans 13 or of God!
      Thousands of police officers every year are convicted of rape/other sex crimes, assault, domestic violence, murder, perjury, planting of drugs and evidence, etc... Police are as far removed from God and biblical teachings as the east is from the west!!
      - QUALIFIED IMMUNITY PERVERTS HUMANITY and JUSTICE!
      - Turtletruth (Semper Fidelis)...

    • @777SFINN777
      @777SFINN777 2 роки тому

      Dude, ruby ridge yes, I get that. Waco hell no. Waco they were bat sh** crazy evil cultists. Dude said he was Jesus christ and they enslaved people, murdered a Fed (without just cause) and burned their own building down. I know people say the Feds did that but that is hear say. Choose your grievances fairly because people who support one evil because it was against another is ignorant. F the Feds and F the cult.

    • @gemnicherry2670
      @gemnicherry2670 2 роки тому +29

      Yeah that was sickening….burnt women and children to death 😡

    • @thebakery3996
      @thebakery3996 2 роки тому +45

      Let’s not forget about civil rights leaders who were killed by the feds. Waco was one that we have on film.

  • @user-pr3ho5pz4m
    @user-pr3ho5pz4m 2 роки тому +125

    The best way to fix this is to abolish the ATF and NFA. Put an end to this shit once and forever.

    • @deejayimm
      @deejayimm Рік тому +2

      I support libertarians too.

    • @richb.4374
      @richb.4374 Рік тому +7

      Get rid of the IRS too.

    • @user-pr3ho5pz4m
      @user-pr3ho5pz4m Рік тому +4

      @@richb.4374 If we got rid of all the alphabet agencies it would not hurt my feelings.

    • @scottyfox6376
      @scottyfox6376 Рік тому +1

      ATF will declare you are a cult with a possible illegal weapon or incorrect paperwork & you are harming kids. So now they dust off their Waco playbook & come a visiting.

    • @Lawyerboyleslie72
      @Lawyerboyleslie72 Рік тому

      Too many people running around with machine guns

  • @georgiashooter3739
    @georgiashooter3739 2 роки тому +283

    I know 3 guys personally who have no idea any of this is going on, and they own AR pistols. With 2 of them, it's the only AR they own. And the other one just doesn't use social media or watch gun content on UA-cam. Gun stores don't tell you that you're buying a "pistol". My first AR was an AR pistol and I had no idea until I started watching UA-cam videos 5 or 6 years ago. The overwhelming majority of pistol brace owners have no idea. They assume they just bought an AR15. That's a dangerous situation

    • @ch3cksund3ad
      @ch3cksund3ad 2 роки тому +31

      A lot of people are in that boat

    • @realtyrocks1969
      @realtyrocks1969 2 роки тому +10

      There's no way to know that the majority of pistol brace owners are clueless. Myself and everyone I know are members of the gun community and own many AR pistols. Those that are not as informed are more likely to own 1 or 2 at most. I would find that very ironic if there were more soccer moms that owned 1 gun outnumbered the gun community but if that is the case its your responsibility to inform your 3 friends so they are aware of the new ruling. Being unaware of the speed limit doesn't exempt you from adhering to it.

    • @Thomas-uk5cp
      @Thomas-uk5cp 2 роки тому +42

      @@realtyrocks1969 to use your analogy, everyone is aware of the speed limit. Just not very many are aware that theres a handful of patrol cops who have decided by themselves that the speed limit isnt what the sign says. But regardless of what those cops say, their word is not law and we should all continue doing the speed limit.

    • @jayteefishing1543
      @jayteefishing1543 2 роки тому +9

      Hopefully you told them….. 😂😂😂

    • @pay-tray-it4897
      @pay-tray-it4897 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly my thoughts, Mr. Georgia shooter!
      ONCE..... IF..... the "FAT" figures this out they need to send a clear-cut letter to each and everyone who this affects.
      I get a notice when my car has a recall, I get a letter if there's any changes in zoning in my area.
      How are we supposed to "FOLLOW THE RULES",When they don't know therefore we CANT KNOW!

  • @EcceHomo1088
    @EcceHomo1088 2 роки тому +234

    I do... The ATF cannot issue "Laws" or "Rulings"... they arent a "Governing body"... thats like saying the Sheriffs office creates the laws...

    • @Jcaeser187
      @Jcaeser187 2 роки тому +12

      They can do whatever they want, democracy is outdated and only our enemies realize that

    • @MultiTasker888
      @MultiTasker888 2 роки тому +42

      @@Jcaeser187 well for one were not a democracy were a republic. And it's not outdated, if they followed the rules this wouldn't be a thing. It's lack of accountability and unconstitutional action

    • @EcceHomo1088
      @EcceHomo1088 2 роки тому +27

      ​@@Jcaeser187 did you know there is only about 5,300 ATF employees... if gun owners would organize they could end all UNCONSTITUTIONAL gun legislation in about 20 seconds...

    • @Manco65
      @Manco65 2 роки тому +17

      @@MultiTasker888 if they followed the U.S. Constitution the ATFE would not exist or at best be a convenience store.

    • @LuminaryCursorem
      @LuminaryCursorem 2 роки тому

      At least a sheriff is voted in by the people. The ATF is a despotic burocratic agency that get appointed by the Gooberment

  • @TwilightKid
    @TwilightKid 2 роки тому +39

    According to the Forgotten Weapns channel the NFA originally included handguns because of how consealable they are. Then they thought someone could shorten a riffle to conseal it. So they had to include SBR's to plug the loophole. Then they had to remove hand guns to pass it but left the SBR's

  • @brianpulley8652
    @brianpulley8652 2 роки тому +69

    I got a friend who's an RSO at a range and they say people come in quite often with SBRs and have no idea what SBR means because they simply wanted a shorter gun.

    • @vanguard6937
      @vanguard6937 2 роки тому +17

      @DucknCoverin they change rules every 2 minutes and try to use the "ignorance of the law is no excuse to break the law!" Especially with all the BS they're doing

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur 2 роки тому +17

      The other day I had an RSO come up to me and ask me if my 18" AR with a telescoping stock was a pistol, so it goes both ways I think.

    • @juanvaldez5422
      @juanvaldez5422 2 роки тому +20

      @@theKashConnoisseur fudds are so stupid

    • @ShizawnSanders
      @ShizawnSanders 2 роки тому +17

      My brother in law bought a AR pistol with a brace not knowing the difference and put a normal Magpul stock on it. When he showed it to me I'm like bro, you do know this is a illegal SBR right? This is how you had this built? He was like no it had this on it and found the SB brace and showed it to me. I was LMFAO. I had to explain the whole thing to him and of course he thought it was completely dumb AF and I agreed. Perfectly shows why the NFA is dumb AF. He of course put the brace back on it. But the whole thing literally convinced me even more that the entire SBR law is bullshit and dumb. He doesn't keep up with this type of BS and he shouldn't have to. He is completely safe with firearms and has properly been trained and takes his firearms to the range. How many millions of people are just like him? There are going to be millions of people who are felons in 4 months according to the ATF. I think this entire BS is going to be thrown out. Its too common. There are too many. It might even defeat SBR's as NFA items.

    • @ShizawnSanders
      @ShizawnSanders 2 роки тому +11

      That also makes me think of all the southern farmers in the 30's and 40's who were sawing off shotgun barrels having no clue of the law that infringed on their rights.

  • @marlowek1936
    @marlowek1936 2 роки тому +30

    Watch the ruling get yoinked last minute and the ATF end up with a bunch of info because people fell for it.

  • @commonmanoutdoors7517
    @commonmanoutdoors7517 2 роки тому +96

    Wonder how many ATF agents have these braces in their own personal collections?

    • @howardmiller1198
      @howardmiller1198 2 роки тому +33

      Probably none of them. They probably have real sbr's with proper stocks.

    • @cnsgains5506
      @cnsgains5506 2 роки тому +7

      I've heard there is actually a concern with some atf agents because they have these braces and they aren't exempt either. Some internal conflict with the rule.

    • @Patriot-rising
      @Patriot-rising 2 роки тому

      Well let us dive into privileged people for a moment. We should probably start with Hunter Biden and his illegal purchase of a sidearm. Then we can look at Brandon himself who has become a serious international gun runner. Arming the cartels and of course the good ole Taliban.
      Exempt is a word they commonly use.

    • @sdranch2800
      @sdranch2800 2 роки тому +18

      Most don’t have them, they hire people who are against 2A, they don’t like having employees that actually support constitutional rights.

    • @jeremywills9303
      @jeremywills9303 2 роки тому +5

      @@cnsgains5506 I've heard the same. Also some LEOs are affected by this. Might be a great way to bring that into the mix as another shining example of defunding the police by this ridiculous rule taking their tools away from them. Alot of smaller depts don't want to mess with NFA items at a dept level so the officers provide their own equipment. Many individual officers don't want to deal with the NFA either so they have opted to run with braced pistols.

  • @kevinsohn1033
    @kevinsohn1033 2 роки тому +30

    Imported pistols had to get approval before coming in to the country. That means there is a paper trail with the ATF approving them. Legal documents that can be used as evidence in court. “Ignore the evidence judge we changed our mind that doesn’t count any more.”

    • @CtrlAltRetreat
      @CtrlAltRetreat 2 роки тому +3

      Pretty much, their argument isn't "ignore the evidence" it has always been this way. It's "that evidence is irrelevant now as the rule has changed"

  • @GenX-Grampa
    @GenX-Grampa 2 роки тому +37

    When attorneys are arguing and in disagreement of what all this crap says and means, the AFT has done their jobs perfectly!

    • @chipdouglas9349
      @chipdouglas9349 Рік тому

      Great point. Its so confiusing trying to purchase, carry or transport a firearm with all of the layers and conflicting laws, policies and precedents. it should should not be difficult to exercise a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT.
      When I went to a gun show. There was a gun on a dealers table i asked the dealer why some odd feature was on the gun and I asked if it could be taken off. And the delaer jumped back from the table and was like No No No that is illegal! and he's losing his mind liek I am some maiacal criminal for asking a logical honest questoion.
      but he has been so brainwashed by therules they actually make sense to him now and he can't look at it from a person'a perspective who just sees something that goes boom and has a question about it

  • @jettoth3
    @jettoth3 2 роки тому +17

    We are living in a culture and time that nurtures and promotes silliness, stupidity, and incompetence. Only the worst of incompetent fools can rise to positions of power and authority here in the U.S.A. This strange ATF "ruling" is just one example of the way everything is going in our whole culture.

  • @918_xDx
    @918_xDx 2 роки тому +7

    Sheriff where I'm at just announced they won't enforce or assist in enforcement.

    • @bigredone1030
      @bigredone1030 2 роки тому +5

      The feds don’t need your old sheriff

    • @killacamfoo
      @killacamfoo 2 роки тому +3

      feds and state police will do the work.

    • @GStudios777
      @GStudios777 2 роки тому

      John,,well now,,looks like the sheriff is insubordinate,,,

  • @alexlawrence7577
    @alexlawrence7577 2 роки тому +8

    Out of the 30 videos I watch y'all were the only ones to tell me what your plans are with in the 120 days take off brace make it "legal" and wait for it to be over turned. Thank you for your opinion

  • @greenman7yyy
    @greenman7yyy 2 роки тому +5

    I have been avoiding any 40+ minute video on the ATF changing their rules on pistol braces. I enjoyed the rational discussion in this 40+ minute discussion regarding some of the issues that are wrong about them changing their rules.
    Because of your rational response, I felt compelled to SUBSCRIBE! Thank you 🙂

  • @MuffMarauder
    @MuffMarauder 2 роки тому +9

    Brother keep the videos coming. I’ll listen to this for another hour anytime. Thanks for keeping us informed so we can inform more.

  • @twistinprops604
    @twistinprops604 2 роки тому +13

    Jus leave us alone!
    Signed,
    The whole 2A community.

  • @joshuaprice4891
    @joshuaprice4891 2 роки тому +19

    I have strong feelings about the fact that turning all of the braced pistols into rifles sharply increases the number of short barreled rifles in the US. At that time, I think that there is potentially the strongest case to date against the regulation of SBR's in accordance with the NFA/GCA. Perhaps this oppression is exactly what we needed to aid in making the SBR no longer "Dangerous AND Unusual" because even 3 million new SBR's seems to make it rather "Usual". 3 million is more than 200,000, so I think that we would be in good shape. So I think that maybe rather than being super upset and outraged, we look forward to perhaps using this to get one of the bigger 2A wins that we have seen in a long time. P.S. this skirts all of those states that do not allow NFA items, because SBR's wouldn't be on that list any longer...

    • @HomerEscobar1
      @HomerEscobar1 Рік тому +2

      That's nice, I have strong feelings that the atf will make a rule to ban all semi automatic pistols next.

    • @Lawyerboyleslie72
      @Lawyerboyleslie72 Рік тому

      Conversely everyone doing a run around of the regulations on SBR and using braces that were only approved for the disabled caused this.

    • @HomerEscobar1
      @HomerEscobar1 Рік тому

      @@Lawyerboyleslie72 the "regulations" are illegal. Go take a hike

  • @boss350z5
    @boss350z5 2 роки тому +19

    I think they really are watching and discerning what kind of legal challenges they need to prepare for...

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому +1

      Perhaps, but they’re too accustomed to just falling back on the “because we said so.”

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree 2 роки тому +16

    Hopefully nobody's dog got too close to the ATF booth at SHOT Show.

  • @cutlassman1
    @cutlassman1 2 роки тому +24

    We all need to push our representatives to do away with the NFA and the atf.

    • @308dad8
      @308dad8 Рік тому

      They reply in 2 years “Thanks for reaching out to tell me your opinion but I can’t support giving dangerous blah blah blah blah blah blah. The RINO from Memphis said that to me about removing pot from Schedule 1

  • @dillonc7955
    @dillonc7955 2 роки тому +28

    The ATF is a perfect example to how the government is trying to make states feel like different micro-nations; both politically and law wise.

    • @sqaure4175
      @sqaure4175 2 роки тому +3

      As we should be. 50 experiments.
      50 chances to see what works.

    • @Prosecute-fauci
      @Prosecute-fauci 2 роки тому +6

      That’s what states are.

    • @timscott7136
      @timscott7136 2 роки тому +9

      The feds don’t want that at all, that would imply state’s rights and individual states having power.

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому +2

      @DucknCoverin

    • @jer1014t2th
      @jer1014t2th Рік тому

      ....yeah, the states are supposed to be different micro-nations. National unity is all well and good, and we should feel like a part of the larger nation; but each state is supposed to be self-governing within the strictures of the Constitution.

  • @MannElite
    @MannElite 2 роки тому +18

    What do you do, when the bully in school is coercing you do to do things you don't want to do, and his instructions start to get confusing?? Hmmmm.....

    • @Robnord1
      @Robnord1 2 роки тому +13

      You refine your fighting skills at home, quietly and methodically. Then one magic day you surprise the bully by beating him to a bloody pulp.

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree 2 роки тому

      Punch him in the balls? That's what I did...

    • @MannElite
      @MannElite 2 роки тому +2

      @DucknCoverin I like this guy

  • @r3claim3r
    @r3claim3r 2 роки тому +6

    Darth Vader: "I am altering the deal. Pray that I don't alter it any further."

  • @_____mh
    @_____mh 2 роки тому +2

    I have a gun gripe.. this is the second video you've called the Zenith an import
    Thanks for the content anyways!!
    Edit- I was thinking ZF-5 ONLY, I'm dum lol

  • @xm8553
    @xm8553 2 роки тому +3

    It is so insane to me that THIS is what the ATF and our government is putting effort, time and our money into. Aside from the issue itself, what about the 10,000’s if not more who are in the military, out of the country, bought a gun 10 years ago etc and won’t find out about this “ruling?” I only know about it cuz I watch guntubers but most gun owners don’t…

  • @chrishulett4370
    @chrishulett4370 Рік тому

    Chad, I am always impressed by your very level-headed thought process when discussing these issues. You clearly look at the issue from all sides and are very well spoken. Thanks again

  • @GmanGSW
    @GmanGSW 2 роки тому +8

    I asked Mark, of the Four Boxes Diner, about the ATF's FAQ section regarding the fact in reference to NFA items, 3 days ago now, that reads something like: only the owner of an NFA item or co-owners (trustees) can use their NFA item independently or constructively! You are, now, not allowed to lend your NFA item, say, to your friend (in sight) or, worse, leave it in your safe and your wife has the ability to access it, unless she is a partial owner/trustee, or worse, even allowing a customer to hold an NFA item... Thoughts?

    • @boldie24
      @boldie24 2 роки тому

      They cover in the video

    • @elrojogrande744
      @elrojogrande744 2 роки тому +1

      the ATF said this FAQ is wrong earlier today. it should be fixed shortly.
      nothing is changing about that.

    • @boldie24
      @boldie24 2 роки тому

      @@elrojogrande744 please cite a source. Also, you believe it?

    • @GmanGSW
      @GmanGSW 2 роки тому

      @@elrojogrande744 I, literally, checked the ATF site, today after I wrote the above written post (which was correct, till yesterday?) and couldn't find it in the FAQs. Me thinks you are correct. That is good news on one front. I wonder if it was their NFA FAQ section having been looked over about 1 million times+/- overt the past few days and some attorneys contacting to verify?
      Whatever it was, thanks and have a good one!

    • @elrojogrande744
      @elrojogrande744 2 роки тому +1

      @Brad Oldenburg as someone else just pointed out that part of the FAQ is now gone. id tend to think that proves it is true.

  • @WheeledandWellArmed
    @WheeledandWellArmed Рік тому +3

    Great discussion guys. I love the back and forth with all the examples.

  • @cdcruiser5314
    @cdcruiser5314 2 роки тому +17

    I was watching "Washington gun laws" and he was taking about the brace ruling and he mentioned that the 88 day automatic rejection only applied to form 4473 that forms 1 and 4 doesn't have that rule

    • @Falcons17
      @Falcons17 2 роки тому +1

      This!

    • @tenchraven
      @tenchraven 2 роки тому +1

      NICS is used on a form 1 and 4, not just the 4473. If that background check takes 88+ days, you're done. Its rare, it's a 1% or less chance, but that's with the current load.

    • @Falcons17
      @Falcons17 2 роки тому

      @@tenchraven True, but different set of folks conducting the 4473 background checks. Some states use FBI and others have their own law enforcement do it. That, and the fact that a 4473 for an NFA item is only to document the transfer from the dealer; no back ground check is processed since it was completed during the NFA review, which doesn't have the 88 day rule, hence us having to wait many months and sometimes over a year to get approved.

    • @stevietaylor3695
      @stevietaylor3695 2 роки тому

      @@Falcons17 ATF does the 4473 background checks now.

    • @Falcons17
      @Falcons17 2 роки тому +2

      @@stevietaylor3695 FDLE does them in Florida for firearms transfers. No 4473 BGC for NFA, only filled out to document the transfer from dealer to buyer.

  • @cutlerylover
    @cutlerylover 2 роки тому +2

    Who wants to class 3 an SBR? Are you more than likely have a gun collection, think about the demographic of people who want SBR's...your not just some random farmer with a rifle...Its a smart idea for the ATF to get that registry of "special" gun owners...

    • @NCshooter1213
      @NCshooter1213 2 роки тому +1

      Seeing your comment brought back memories. Used to watch u way WAY back in the day but I slowed down on my youtube watch time and lost track. Good to see you commenting. And I agree with you they are gonna get somewhat of a "list" of the above average gun owner.

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover 2 роки тому +1

      @@NCshooter1213 Thanks man

  • @mrouija25
    @mrouija25 2 роки тому +3

    What’s stopping them from making a “rule” stating any firearm that has a trigger is now illegal and needs to be destroyed!?

  • @rubeclayton8233
    @rubeclayton8233 Рік тому +1

    GUYS, I DON'T CARE IF THESE VIDEOS LAST 3 OR 4 HOURS...
    PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING..
    I'M WATCHING.🇺🇸🇺🇸🏆🏆🏆

  • @4lokochallenge
    @4lokochallenge 2 роки тому +3

    you guys are doing a great job with this topic - Thank you for your efforts.

  • @pattkinder612
    @pattkinder612 Рік тому +2

    Great evaluation of our situation. Thanks guys. 😎👍

  • @bookofm8659
    @bookofm8659 2 роки тому +7

    It almost sounds like the ATF didn't write the rule.
    Like some other Agency or Department (that doesn't have the ability to make firearm "rules" or the votes to pass laws) wrote it for the ATF and they just rubber stamped it.

  • @NethenR3471
    @NethenR3471 2 роки тому +4

    I've interacted with an atf agent and he told me they make the rules gray instead of black and white for a reason. That way everyone is confused and it's up to each agent to interpret the rule themselves.

    • @ritcheybitch
      @ritcheybitch Рік тому +1

      That's exactly how police are as well!

  • @frugalprepper
    @frugalprepper 2 роки тому +5

    I can't wait to comply fully. I love the ATF!

  • @teaganwindago3132
    @teaganwindago3132 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like I was part of this conversation. Even tho I didn't speak. Y'all did a great job. I loved it

  • @TacticalBuffoonary
    @TacticalBuffoonary Рік тому +2

    All the neophytes are saying pistol braces are banned’ when in fact they are not banned. The aft is now saying an ar pistol with a brace is now an sbr because they now consider a brace a stock. This might be because of the 1000’s of videos on the internet of people shouldering their pistol braces.

  • @jrhemmerich
    @jrhemmerich 2 роки тому +2

    William Kirk over at Washington Gun Law has some good info on the 88 day auto-denial rule. It would appear that this only applies to non-NFA background checks under form 4473. There is no automatic disallowance for time frames under forms 1 or 4, as many know from the time periods which it sometimes takes when filing for NFA items.

  • @travfromthelou
    @travfromthelou 2 роки тому +5

    Been watching for years. Wish Barry was around. Would love to hear his thoughts RN.

  • @1pointcalvinist
    @1pointcalvinist 2 роки тому +6

    I have a Tactical Solutions barrel for a 10/22 takedown. They have a shroud extending the barrel to a legal 16”. The suppressor goes into the shroud and screws onto the barrel that’s 12-12 1/2” long. A Guinness idea I think. The suppressor sticks out beyond the shroud a 1/2” or so.

    • @corbintravis7512
      @corbintravis7512 Рік тому

      Does it keep standard ammo subsonic? If so I'll raise a Guinness to that idea as well.

  • @wanderings8168
    @wanderings8168 2 роки тому +3

    Has the "final rule" even been posted to the federal register yet? None of it applies until it's published there. I can't find it on the federal register website.

    • @elrojogrande744
      @elrojogrande744 2 роки тому +2

      nope, they seem to be dragging it out for some reason

    • @GardenNomme
      @GardenNomme 2 роки тому

      It's pretty hard to find out the info on this

    • @elrojogrande744
      @elrojogrande744 2 роки тому

      @Nome youtube wont even let me tell you how to find the information.
      ive tried 3 different wordings and all 3 were auto yeeted. this is ridiculous..

    • @wanderings8168
      @wanderings8168 2 роки тому

      @@elrojogrande744 I wonder if they know it won't be approved or never even submitted it and are just trying to trick people into registering

    • @elrojogrande744
      @elrojogrande744 2 роки тому +1

      @Wanderings i mean, that's a possibility but i dont think that is actually the plan.
      fuddbusters laid out a pretty solid argument for why he didn't think that was the case and im inclined to agree but well see.

  • @andyhwell8419
    @andyhwell8419 Рік тому

    I want to thank all these gun channels that are bringing this issue to light. We need people like you to put the ATF on blast. THANK YOU

  • @smm274
    @smm274 2 роки тому +9

    Chad, much respect for you and your donation of your hair.

  • @billbeam8069
    @billbeam8069 Рік тому +2

    I'm ready for the brace rule to make it to the Supreme Court . Good video, brothers

  • @subse7enx
    @subse7enx 2 роки тому +19

    Thank You for speaking sanity in a insane world.

  • @mrouija25
    @mrouija25 2 роки тому +1

    If 2 guys sit in a closet and make a “rule” who has to follow it? Laws are supposed to be passed and published by congress! Whats the point of making a rule/law and not officially posting it so people are aware of the new rule/law? Nobody will comply with your rule/law if they don’t know it exists!

  • @jacksonnra1856
    @jacksonnra1856 2 роки тому +4

    People also said "They CANT say something is legal (brace) and then turn around and say it's not. They did. They will do it again.

    • @Lawyerboyleslie72
      @Lawyerboyleslie72 Рік тому

      They said it was legal for disabled shooters. How did so many get sold?

  • @racsw3
    @racsw3 Рік тому

    ATF: "I am under no obligation to make any sense to you." As far as "good" ATF agents doing their job, many German soldiers at the end of WW2 said they were just following orders. That excuse didn't fly them and it does nor fly now.

  • @maximusjoseppi5904
    @maximusjoseppi5904 2 роки тому +8

    The 88 day background check thing (which is actually 90 days but they clear it a day early) is only for form 4473s. It does not apply to form 1 or form 4 background checks, otherwise every single form 1 and form 4 would be rejected for the last decade or more because it takes 6-18 months to get those back.
    This has been cleared up in detail by Washington gun law as well, actual attorneys.

    • @Banjoandguns
      @Banjoandguns Рік тому

      Yeah but your resubmitting a background check in this situation so it will apply the atf it would apply

  • @Corn_Pop_Da_Bad_Dude
    @Corn_Pop_Da_Bad_Dude 2 роки тому +35

    THEY TRYING TO SEE HOW FAR THEY CAN GO HOW MANY WILL BE DUMB ENOUGH TO COMPLY

    • @jandb150
      @jandb150 2 роки тому

      Amen. Some people can’t help themselves. That $200 carrot is a mofo!

    • @austinbrown6343
      @austinbrown6343 2 роки тому +7

      THATS RIGHT HOSS CRANK THAT HOG TELL BARB I SAID HI

    • @saltedweeniehole3052
      @saltedweeniehole3052 2 роки тому +3

      @@austinbrown6343 I CARRY A .45 BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE A .46!!!!!!!

    • @TheWalterKurtz
      @TheWalterKurtz 2 роки тому +1

      Like mask mandates and take'n the jab.

    • @Corn_Pop_Da_Bad_Dude
      @Corn_Pop_Da_Bad_Dude 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheWalterKurtz yep

  • @richardjr1972
    @richardjr1972 Рік тому

    My thoughts are along the lines of, in any interaction with the ATF, they can and will use ANY gray area to be additive to any charges, whether those charges end up being valid or not makes no difference, the ATF will use them at the start to gain the upper hand in negotiations for what the ultimate charges you will agree to as part of any settlement negotiation and use against you in the court of public opinion before any trial actually begins.

  • @jamesbasaldua100
    @jamesbasaldua100 2 роки тому +3

    Good information sir about the subject at hand. Take care and be safe. See you on your next video.

  • @nathanc30
    @nathanc30 Рік тому

    I'd like to know how in the world people aren't getting fired for not going through the legislative process? That baffles me. They are actually breaking the constitutional law and nobody's in trouble

  • @dennishines9996
    @dennishines9996 2 роки тому +11

    at this point they've clearly become tyrannical

  • @willebiggz
    @willebiggz 2 роки тому

    Hey. I am a gunsmith in NJ. In my state as well as CT, we have a braced firearm called “others”. Basically they are ar pistols with a min 2” vertical fore grip and a min OAL if 26”. Also this firearm is not subject to the assault weapon ban which force’s compliance work to be done on all ar style rifles. For example no flash hider, pinned muzzle brake. No bay lug. No adjustable stock. Any way. How is this brace nonsense going to affect us. We can not have SBR in Nj.

  • @rivitman
    @rivitman 2 роки тому +10

    If they can't prosecute you, they can still come loaded for bear to confiscate the offending SBR. All they need is a rubber stamp warrant to seize it.

    • @lilbfrom094princeton8
      @lilbfrom094princeton8 2 роки тому +1

      That’s the real danger… No knock warrants.

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому

      Rubber stamps with Judge’s signatures do not exist. Don’t give bad judges that easy pass.

  • @mrf5347
    @mrf5347 Рік тому

    This item has been legal by ATF rules for 15 to 20 yrs. To make a retroactive law, and therefore label 20 - 40 million Law Abiding Americans criminals, merely by a 3 letter agency rule, not a law, just a random nonsensical rule.

  • @T.Show27
    @T.Show27 2 роки тому +5

    This Gun Gripes is the modern day version of Paul Revere's midnight ride Chad even looks the part of the iconic Minutemen from history books

    • @paulpugh2480
      @paulpugh2480 2 роки тому

      Yes,he can remember when the cry went up,the British are coming bury your guns,the British are coming bury your guns !

  • @WarriorSoul44
    @WarriorSoul44 2 роки тому +1

    The Illinois issue with Sheriffs is spreading. There was an article that came out today, that there are sheriffs that are starting to talk about non-compliance with this rule.

  • @MannElite
    @MannElite 2 роки тому +4

    "Not One More Inch" - James Yeager

  • @EcceHomo1088
    @EcceHomo1088 2 роки тому +2

    did you know there is only about 5,300 ATF employees... if gun owners would organize they could end all UNCONSTITUTIONAL gun legislation in about 20 seconds...

  • @tjp5295
    @tjp5295 2 роки тому +4

    88 days is an interesting amount of time. The amount of days between September 11 and December 7th.

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez 2 роки тому

      That has to do with the requirement that background check information has to be purged from the system at 90 days. The 88 days gives them leeway to include weekends or holidays in the 90-day number to purge the data without violating federal law. Stop attempting to make some kind of conspiracy out of a very simple requirement.

    • @tjp5295
      @tjp5295 2 роки тому

      @@buckhorncortez There absolutely is a conspiracy to disarm Americans.
      So yes, there is a conspiracy. Does 9/11 and Pearl Harbor have anything to do with it. No. I was pointing out a coincidence.

  • @digialityproductions793
    @digialityproductions793 2 роки тому +2

    Interesting you mentioned Olympic arms I worked there for three years in the early 90s.
    The absolute most fun job I ever had.

  • @Foreigner_2024
    @Foreigner_2024 2 роки тому +5

    The ONLY way forward is to NOT COMPLY. This is your last chance.

  • @SolidBold00
    @SolidBold00 2 роки тому +2

    The form 1 is a different version that is specifically for the pistol braces. You can’t use it just to get a free SBR unless you have a pistol with a brace specifically and have to submit pictures

  • @johnnywishbone1349
    @johnnywishbone1349 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t/can’t find the time to get educated on this. I work a 40 hr job in the real world and have lots of important responsibilities

  • @teotwawki00
    @teotwawki00 2 роки тому +5

    The pistol grip shotgun issue popped up today on guns and gadgets but I haven't seen it yet... The ATF is going to Infringe themselves out of a job.
    "LEARN TO CODE..."

  • @mortrob8371
    @mortrob8371 Рік тому +1

    Remember. Under 922R, there is a 5 year statute of limitations. So if you changed the configuration of your pistol or rifle over 5 years ago, and it still doesn't comply with 922R, it's past the statute of limitations for you to be charged. Mark, from Four Boxes Diner brought this up.

  • @ryanscott717
    @ryanscott717 2 роки тому +3

    They purposefully make these things confusing. They want to make owning guns more of a headache than it's worth

    • @ramblingimbecile2295
      @ramblingimbecile2295 2 роки тому +1

      It allows them to benefit from the ambiguity of the ruling. They can pick and choose who they want to criminalise and what for.

    • @GStudios777
      @GStudios777 2 роки тому

      Focus,,my friend,just buy a Normal damn rifle,, none of this is worth becoming a felon and Totally lose your right to own firearms 👍

    • @ryanscott717
      @ryanscott717 2 роки тому

      @@GStudios777 Compliance will only result in more tyranny. This needs to be fought

  • @markburke390
    @markburke390 2 роки тому +2

    They make rules on brace meanwhile teenagers are running all over Chicago with switches on glocks and nothing is being done about it because atf is afraid to go into their neighborhoods.

  • @AmattEUR
    @AmattEUR 2 роки тому +6

    I'm only a min in and it's already my favorite gun gripe ✌️🇺🇸

  • @TXODM
    @TXODM Рік тому

    I've looked it up. I know of 3 civilian 922r charges but only as a tacked on charge with a bigger list of more serious gun charges.

  • @vendetta6451
    @vendetta6451 2 роки тому +5

    I feel like you guys know more about the laws than the atf

  • @OOO-pc3nb
    @OOO-pc3nb 2 роки тому +3

    They got u right where they want u- damned if you do, damned if u don't.

  • @bradrichardson00
    @bradrichardson00 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the great video and your time to make it for us!

  • @SANDWICH_CHEF
    @SANDWICH_CHEF 2 роки тому +3

    How can I break a law that's not a law?

    • @bigredone1030
      @bigredone1030 2 роки тому +1

      You cannot. You can choose to ignore an opinion by some cu ckold

    • @lennylemens
      @lennylemens Рік тому

      This is what I wanna know!

  • @chancepaladin
    @chancepaladin 2 роки тому +1

    this is finally making sense, thanks!

  • @musbycrazy7080
    @musbycrazy7080 2 роки тому +3

    Thank You Both for All the Quality Information Y'all both bring to your Videos! I really Enjoy the Discussions and All the Awesome 2nd Amendment Stuff.
    If I wanted to Get Into "Gunsmithing", what School should I attend, or does anyone know if Gunsmith's are still doing Apprenticeships? If so, who might still be doing those said Apprenticeships?

  • @UnknownUser-fe5zu
    @UnknownUser-fe5zu 2 роки тому +1

    It’s unconstitutional and everybody knows it, even those at the ATF. What’s unfortunate is nobody will be held accountable.

  • @salroth420
    @salroth420 2 роки тому +3

    Day 255 for my e-form 4. Average wait right now is 265.
    Any day now!

  • @dfor
    @dfor Рік тому +2

    I just hope not many people are submitting form 1s for these braces. I just bought my first suppressor and I’m hoping to get it by my birthday in late October. But I’m not holding my breath.

  • @chuckmiller5763
    @chuckmiller5763 2 роки тому +1

    They wrote phrases in their rule change like "NOT WITHSTANDING ANY OTHER LAW" , This means they can apply any existing law, if you do not have your tax stamp at the end of that 120 days, you are in possession of an illegal SBR. Dio not send them a picture with that brace attached.

  • @jasonbirch4238
    @jasonbirch4238 2 роки тому +3

    What would be next on their hit list. Scopes, red dots, lasers, etc etc?? All can improve function of a weapon

    • @racecitypatriot66
      @racecitypatriot66 2 роки тому +1

      Couple videos up now. Pistol grip shot guns are NFA

    • @racecitypatriot66
      @racecitypatriot66 2 роки тому +1

      So next will be all AR's. Since they have pistol gripson them

  • @omgwtfits7612
    @omgwtfits7612 Рік тому

    40:38 is a point I’ve made to a bunch of people who are asking repeatedly as I lay dying. They already have my prints and pictures and the really good stuff I have

  • @RedLegionFilms
    @RedLegionFilms 2 роки тому +3

    Sure they *can't* hit you with the book, but since when does the ATF care about following the law themselves

  • @mrouija25
    @mrouija25 2 роки тому +2

    Yeah we said marijuana was legal… but that was last week..!

  • @unozayofficial
    @unozayofficial Рік тому +3

    Can you start posting to rumble as well? I would like to stop supporting youtube.

  • @noahbitz2878
    @noahbitz2878 2 роки тому

    So the ATF would be able to say starting this day in 120 days you won't be able to buy a brace without a tax stamp correct? But the line is crossed when they decided it would be a felony to own one that was purchased before the day the new rule goes into affect? Do I have that right?

  • @lagaleano72
    @lagaleano72 2 роки тому +5

    Fuddbuster and Washington Gun Law have some good videos explaining 922r and the 88 days.

  • @user-ms3lw3gi4f
    @user-ms3lw3gi4f 2 роки тому +2

    Hour well spent..Thank You! 👍

  • @murph1329
    @murph1329 2 роки тому +3

    the whole 88 days thing is 100% entrapment

    • @aerldonathan4381
      @aerldonathan4381 2 роки тому

      The 88days only applies to 4473 delays, so it isn't.

  • @johandewet2588
    @johandewet2588 2 роки тому +1

    All this riffle, pistol, shotgun, pcc, sbr, stock, no stock, brace, pistol grip, fore-grip, mag capacity, caliber, suppressor, tax stamp, registration, import limitations or restrictions are all a big pile of BS! There should be only one question... Is it a gun or not? If it is a gun then call it a gun and under the 2nd Amendment it is all allowed regardless of shape, size or form. All these headaches are created by trying to classify things that cross over into other areas making the definition itself a gray area. Then they try to put restrictions or bans on the grey areas they themselves created. They do this in illegal and confusing manners that makes it very hard for legal gun owners to stay compliant to their bull-crap ideas.

  • @zen21tao
    @zen21tao 2 роки тому +4

    I used to see this compliance as a chance for a free SBR but not anymore. The fundamental difference with compliance is that you are submitting an already built sbr. I would take the pistol, without a pistol brace every being installed (wink wink) and submit it through a normal title 1 to get approval to build the sbr. Basically look at the tax stamp fee as insurance.

  • @lanceroberthough1275
    @lanceroberthough1275 Рік тому +1

    It's quite simple.
    Remove your braces.
    Keep it stored somewhere very separate from your pistol.
    Do not apply for amnesty.
    Wait for court cases to proceed.
    If you want an SBR apply independent of the brace and when approved apply a regular stock AFTER you are approved.

  • @MrSoonermadman
    @MrSoonermadman 2 роки тому +3

    I would like Chad to be able to finish a sentence bruh

  • @grizzlyaxethrower8463
    @grizzlyaxethrower8463 2 роки тому +2

    Luke: but why?
    Yoda: dies in slow motion

  • @nathanhall4415
    @nathanhall4415 2 роки тому +6

    If I had a nickel for every time Eric says “right” I’d be rich 😂😂
    Way to break things down guys. Keep up the content and 2A fight.

    • @Jeph_H
      @Jeph_H 2 роки тому

      Right?

  • @NCshooter1213
    @NCshooter1213 2 роки тому +1

    Anyone who registers there braced pistol deserves whatever happens. I refuse. They would have to find mine. The atf can not make law. They can just suddenly decide this. Congress must pass a new law. The atf was never meant to serve in this function. If ppl would just say NO. This would end quickly. Just like they taught u in school about drugs. Just say no ppl

    • @NCshooter1213
      @NCshooter1213 2 роки тому

      @@donovanchilton5817 true but I made my point so...eh...lol.