Where are Chinese Carbon Bikes made? Winspace factory tour.
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2019
- 🔗 www.winspace.cc
Big thanks to Winspace for inviting us around their HQ and factory in Xiamen, China. Winspace have been making carbon race bikes since 2008 and are one of the bigger brands in mainland China, but relatively unknown outside China...
We took a look at the process of designing and manufacturing a bike. It's crazy the amount of work that goes into producing a single frame.
Winspace are just starting to expand into the western markets, they opened an AliExpress store ( bit.ly/WinsAli ) and are working on their website: www.winspace.cc/
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Will this work on the new T1550 frame ?
Last year I bought a chinese ICAN frame AND after it an entire microshift kit. I have been using it on hardcore trainings and so far 3 competitions. I could not be more happy with their tech.
Such humble, friendly people at Winspace.
I've said it in previous videos and I'll repeat it here: I'm just so impressed with your work. Your channel, which you seem to manage almost if not entirely by yourself, is of such a professional quality. You've opened up an entire nation and and entire industry to the rest of the world - and China's such an important place for us to know more about. Remarkable work, truly.
Thanks Brian! It's a labour of love.
Respect you actually went thousands miles to the factory. I don’t know how other brand made their frame but this winspace looks legit to me.
Great work, thank you for taking the time to produce this video
Cam Nicholls bought me here... really interesting video to see process of a bike build!
Your content is getting better and better. Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Great insight to the Chinese Factories, I really am tempted thanks for another well put together video. All the best Andy
Nice to see the great quality of the winspace factory. Awesome video. Keep doing this job to show us in the east.
Thanks for watching! If nobody watched, I wouldn't make this videos. So - big thanks.
Pretty good China Cycling! I really hope that other Chinese companies get on board with you for these kind of video content. It’s definitely a win win for everyone: your channel, their business and ultimate all the end customers who currently find difficult to keep up with the costs of having a decent bike.
Just bought and built a Trifox carbon frame, very happy and saved loads!! keep up the excellent work!
Love your channel. So happy it exists!
Second that notion 👍
Excellent video Sarah! The information you provide is greatly appreciated. Ride on!
Properly good, the editing skills are so good too! Been using Chinese bikes for years now good to see some good press for them! Keep up the good work!
Thanks. I try to make the videos visually interesting as well as interesting content. It can be interesting knowing what to edit and what to keep. Like the conversation I had with Roman was interesting to me, but went on for far too long for a video perhaps.
Cracking video. It was an eye opener
Thanks Hambini. I have huge respect for what you do too. Love the no BS approach and you call a spade a spade. Would love to get in touch with you via email to sometimes pluck your brain about some more technical things. I'm always nervous I'm gonna get called out by more-technically minded people such as yourself. And of course, if you need any parts sourcing from China - I can help out where I can.
@@ChinaCycling this would be a very interesting collab, maybe comparing mfg quality of Chinese to 'western' brands.
I would be intrested in finding out how they ensure the Bottom Bracket holes are "round" and true to each other. What is the method to ensure this when made, and how to they QC to ensure it's within specs.
Yes!!! A hambini designed bike with a collaboration from you would have Cervelo and the likes shaking in their pedals!!!
Good vid. Informative and thorough. Will look at their frames now.
Awesome video!! Really nice to see the process.
really enjoy the informative video, and thank you for sharing. really important to have solid feed back from someone on that side of the world showing us the facts on the production of the product.
Interesting. Thanks for all the work you put into the video.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Awesome job dude. Thanks for the tour.
Any time! Maybe a wheel factory next.
Nice to see videos that made the frame Thank YOU FOR YOUR time....
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. I read every comment (even if I don't always reply!)
Excellent to see this. This is how a company should be marketed.
Great video, thanks for doing this - keep it up
Thank you very much for the encouragement.
Thanks so much for doing this video!
Thanks for doing this, your becoming the go to guy for all things Chinese carbon. Try and do some wheelset stuff too if you can - cheers
please don’t use this feature...
yes do some wheelsets please!
I'm trying to let people see what it's like over here. Obviously most bikes are made here, so that's a big part of it. :) Thanks for your support.
@@ChinaCycling i second this and please put a link where we can purchase or contact these people to purchase. we love your stuff. cheers!!
check out TraceVelo, as far as wheelsets I'd recommend SuperTeam me and my mates all have 2300 plus miles on em.
I love your videos. But this one is a specially good one. Thank you for the work and the effort to make quality videos to the cycling people.
As always, thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video! Respect to these legit quality chinese manufacturers who are so hardworking and deserve kudos.
Fascinating. I'm sure a lot of people will be disappointed to see their myths about the manufactor of Chinese frames dispelled.
Yeah. I was so impressed/suprised/thankful of how open Winspace were. They didn't try to hide anything embarrassing from the camera (apart from things like unannounced bikes) they were very frank and open.
Ive been saying this for years.
There are only a few Carbon Frame builders left outside China and Taiwan the majority of a brand name Frames comes from China oder Taiwan like Scott Trek and so on.
Actually it is an eye opener
Yeah! After I broke my Bianchi Oltre (Taiwan Made), I purchases a $350 Chinese carbon frame, it has been a great and flawless riding frame for the last 2 years.
2:05 so apparently knowing which parts will be required to assemble the final product is called "super-super detailed" in the bike industry.
This is pretty impressive. Winspace great work!
World class bike frames, great job pro.
First video of your channel. Please post more of this China frames content, I really like it.
You've got one more sub here!
Great video, really informative and quite eye opening!
Good edit Joe!
Informative and interesting, love this type of content. Thank you. It's eye-opening how the manufacture of bikes is so commodified compared to bygone eras where high end race bikes were the domain of artisans who would personally oversee their creations from conception to sale.
i wish i could buy one right before it is painted, it looked so cool. its like a mix of different carbon strains
That's what I was thinking
Bloody great video, thanks!
Thanks for the video it changes your perspective on quality control of manufacturing 👍🏻
I was very impressed. The workers also treated the frames with respect, always picking them up and putting them down gently, etc.
Loved the video 🎉
Very good vid , the bikes not just made in some back alleyway like we're all told on Sunday morning spins🤣 (crumble on the first dissent)😂
So tempting to buy Chinese direct after seeing a lot of your content. This was very good.
Thanks for this video, its the first time i saw an actual carbon bike being produced 👍
Great video! Thanks to you and to Winspace for showing us the manufacturing process. Totally impressed with their setup!
Wonderful video! Thank you!
Awesome, mate!
Great content!!
This video is well put, awesome content mate. I also have been able to take a quick tour on a carbon frame factory in Guangzhou, and this video is spot on.
Dito din si idol
Oi idol
So now we know kung bakit palagi mo sinasabi na "BAKA DI NILA ALAM" , " MAY KAPAREHAS NA FRAME" at masyado ka magaling sa video vlogs mo...a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
The factory, You mean Trinx right？
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Thanks. Really nice video
Gold content. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the comments!
great content and narration
fair play!great video
😱 Can't wait to see this video !
Thanks Sylvain - you're China Cycling's OG fan!
I am impressed. Testing part in the end shows these guys care.
Very Good review thank you.
They built my carbon frame. Absolutely perfect in every way. Very proud and fussy detail-oriented manufacturer. Will recommend with no hesitation.
Dear Shane MacGowan, thanks for an awesome vid!
I had to Google to see who that was - hahaha!
Wow so Awesome thanks for video so much work to make Carbon bikes amazing engineering and craftsmanship
excelente video gracias !!
Great video. Chapeau a vous, sir. C h a p e a u.
Nice frames (website is on point) and good to see at least some of the stages of QC-ing and testing the frames for integrity, and so on.
I think these companies are slowly but surely uping their game.
Awesome & Thanks :)
Beautiful factory and beautiful frame.
I have ICAN brand race bike frame set & ICAN carbon disc wheelset. Love em !
Hi..mother, what ICAN bikes Made in Chinese too?
It's criminal you don't have more subscribers. Really nice work.
Ah, the number is going up (slowly) so I'm happy. It's already surpassed what I thought was possible in the beginning.
@@ChinaCycling
Oh, I've noticed, I just wish you had more visibility than you do now. The information you're providing is not only interesting, it's very useful as well. Anyway, I certainly appreciate what you're doing here. Cheers, mate.
Great video
Great vid
: Great video!
Great result!
Awesome video, so interesting to see the carbon being layed up
Hi mate i watch all your stuff brilliant channel you got just ordered my second chinese frame from these guys the quality of the frame is topclass but i have had a issue with my frame (dont wanna badmouth just yet as want to give them chance to rectify) i know you guys have a lot going on over in china and my thoughts are with those effected but if you had some spare time would you mind dropping me message as you may be able to communicate with the guys a winspace a bit better than me no worries if not
Keep the videos coming
Good honest video, thanks for producing this, shows a couple of obvious quality issues that are less than ideal however.
It's great to see you still around! I've been missing your videos! I wonder what quality issues you saw? I'm worried they're more down to my editing than actual things in the factory, but would love your expert opinion.
@@ChinaCycling Thanks, just busy here so no time to make videos at the moment. Hopefully again soon.
Quality issues are not related to your editing, just things that I see, which most people don't know about.
@@LuescherTeknik just tell us about this quality issues... I am very interested on it...
My guess, Winspace does not laser cut the pieces. The lay-up, gluing and baking is not done in a clean-room. The workers are not wearing clean-room clothing. They don't laser-measure/camera-measure components. The pre-preg pieces are at risk of drying out. Stress-testing each frame fatigues it and shortens its life. They don't do void testing. Being handmade introduces more inconsistency in the final product, along with errors.
Cheers mate!
You're welcome, thanks for commenting!
Nice work
Nice video 👍
Cool shit👍🏻i priciate that i can watch it here
I was before Trek Madone SLR 6 and i have frameset specifications which i want to share for all people's,it will help a lot for those who have some issue right frame size Choose.
my height is 170 CM (5'7")
I will write Trek frame "52" size and in bracket i will write Winspace size M.
1# in Trek SLR 6 " Seat tube length" =483, winspace in (470) mm.
2# Head tube length= 121mm, winspace(120mm).
3# Effective top tube Trek SLR 6 = 534mm, winspace (530mm).
4# Trek SLR 6 "chain stay length"= 410, winspace (403mm).
5# "Bottom bracket drop" SLR 6= 72, winspace (68mm).
6# "seat tube Angel" SLR 6= 74.2°, winspace (74°).
7# "Head Angel" SLR 6 = 72.8°, winspace (72°).
8# "Trail" SLR 6= 58, winspace ( 63 mm).
9# " Frame reach" SLR 6= 383, winspace (382).
10# "Stand over" SLR 6= 750, winspace (732).
11# " Wheel base" Slr 6= 977, winspace ( 974).
12# "Frame stack" SLR 6= 533, winspace (517).
13# " Fork rake"(off set) SLR 6= 45, winspace (45).
i compare size Trek Madone SLR 6 and winspace T1500.
Do u appreciate my work?
6:05 one of the moulds is greyed out. So tell me........ which big brand/model is being produced there? 🙈
you never will know...maybe in 10 years ;-))
They copy the same product and ship it out the back door. This guy who made the video is getting a commission.
Probs all of them lol
Is a normal business practices. 😀😁
S-works for $6K... But no, wait, specialized wouldn’t use so labor intensive and expensive process, they probably use another cheaper and faster manufacturer who skips few steps in the process to make more hot-selling Sagan branded frames.
Very cool and very impressive.
Good job Winspace, your porduct just went in my estimation.
Super awesome!
I have XDS R8000 bought Melbourne 2012,still going strong, awesome plain finish showing carbon lay pattern plus china red colour feature. would be good to know more about XDS bike build company.
Brilliant!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent content, love your channel man! Did you have some seafood at Xiamen? When I visited we went all out on excellent cheap seafood and local beer.
I'm not a big seafood guy, but what I tried was alright! Beer is always good ;)
Taking in fact, that this factory isn't the worst one. Actually looks good, clean and organized. I can not get away from process, how frame is made. Romanticising right now, but steel frame made by few guys in an shed seems so much better way to go
I've seen some photos / videos inside other Chinese carbon factories... This one was definitely better. Some of the others seemed really disorganized.
The aero frame looks nice!
Hey Joe. Loving your channel. Learning a lot. I want to build my own road bike, thinking of getting carbon frames from ebay or aliexpress. Any advice which brands in those marketplaces are a good pick. Thank you!
I wonder if the Lightcarbon factory is similar in quality.
good video
i'm currently having a project of building a 100% chinese build bike and i have to say, the quality is insanely good.
That's good to hear!
please do more Factory tours so we get more information about all different chinese manufacturers, to choose where is the best to buy from
I'm trying! Haha, I'm mostly a one-man show with a limited budget (whatever UA-cam pays me) so you'll have to forgive the slower pace than the more professional media.
China Cycling hi from Miami... I’ve been following your content for a while .. and you are doing great 👍. Keep it up .
Hi. First off. Great vids all the time. Informative and entertaining. Your work has also led me to considering the Winspace SLC 2.0 frame for purchase. I'm 177.5 cm tall and all my bikes, both Scott Addicts have been size 54. Size recommended by Winspace was 52. They say the reach and stack are almost the same. Could this be true? Hope you could help as I'm seriously considering it. Last but not lease keep up the good work bro. Youre doing a great job. KUDOS.
Very interesting !
Nice video. thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Incredible things are happening in China.
Thank you.
I’d be okay with hearing the whole conversation, that’s why we’re here! 🤔😉😜🤪😳 awesome content. 👍
Great vídeo. Cheers from Brasília - Brazil.
Thank you for watching! It's humbling to know people are watching from all over the world.
@@ChinaCycling All the Best.
great stuff.
Yeah really interesting video, I think they designed the Dolan Scala iirc
i suggest you ride of the auto focus when shooting spiels the auto focus keeps hunting. Love your content bro. Kudos