Being a PhD scholar on these carbon fibers, I can say that You just put this complicated composite material into simpler and lucid words. Really appreciated.
Hi sir, I just would like to know what are the difference between an expensive european carbon bike frame vs asian carbon bike frame specifically china brand. Example Specialized vs Twitter.
i dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know a way to get back into an Instagram account..? I stupidly lost the account password. I would love any assistance you can give me.
@Frederick Jamal i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and im in the hacking process atm. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
40 years ago, my roommate was working in an aerospace test and development lab. He came home all excited about this new material, "carbon fiber," and told me how it was going to change everything. He was right. Thanks for the tour of the exact process for bikes. I have been wondering about it for a long time. 👍
This has probably been my favorite video by GCN in a while, maybe ever. Just goes to show engineering is art. And now I really really really want a Look!
It was definitely cool, but I thought moots titanium shop was even better. They are handmade in the USA and there's just something about ti knowing that the bike is going to be around for generations and generations to come. The fact that carbon fiber is kinda a consumable bothers me a bit even though it's lighter..
By having working with composite before , I can state that this video is well made and has showed the correct basics of composite production. Composite manufacturing is pure art, if you have designed, simulated, tested and guaranteed that both layup and curing process is correct. Your product will perform as intended.... and that’s why we have so much bad carbon frames around. 🥺
This semi-tutorial documentary is superbly constructed throughout! You answered questions as they'd naturally follow, informing at a pace easily and clearly revealing how this wonderful 'mystery-material' becomes a masterpiece. Amazing, all around! Thank you!
I purchased a LOOK 486 monocoque carbon fiber bicycle in 2003. The dealer completed the bike with all LOOK carbon fiber handle bars, bottle holders, rims, etc. it’s a masterpiece of a bike to which I still have today in fabulous condition. I made sure to keep the frame from being marred. Original final cost to me was $9,000. Well worth it too. Colors are red faded in a white. Fabulous bike!
Awesome coverage of the Manufacturing process and some of the validation testing. It would have been good to mention and maybe show a snippet of the CAE (FEA) work that supports the early design stages. Kudos on the video and easily understood approach.
Top quality. This is the "television" of the future. GCN, you are realizing the potential of the world-wide web for the education and benefit of all, as so many nerds in the 90s had hoped. Dare I say, I'm almost coming to expect so high a level of content from your channel?! Wonderful job, yet again.
Great clip. I can’t believe it took me almost a year to watch it... what a treat! Made me grateful for having a CF frame. And made me appreciate all the processes that are part of building it even more.
Whenever I see the amount of work that goes into bikes, from design and testing to the labour intensive manufacture and assembly process I rethink my complaints about how expensive bikes are. This ones no exception. Good grief, such a lot of peoples hard work is needed just to produce one bike!
Frazer Goodwin my concern is how much are they paying workers? It’s clear that bike manufacturing is a complicated process but it’s also clear how over inflated the bike industry is. So yes appreciate your carbon bike but appreciate that is was made by a migrant worker getting paid very little.
@@thecrowfliescrooked People living and working in their home country are not migrant workers... They may be paid little by US or EU standard but probably have a decent living standard by local norms....
@@rc420r Materials cost for carbon frames are between $20 and $50, finished manufacturing cost around $300 to $600. The rest is marketing including sponsorship (divide the salaries of the Sky team by the number of F10 sold and it comes to nice added sum) and distribution margins (everyone involved has to make a living Brand, importer, store...).
Well done. Really appreciate that when you were pointing at things, you didn’t touch them with your bare hands. Saved one of those ladies a wipe down during the surface prep.
Great video So interesting to actually see these beautiful bikes being made and how much attention to detail goes into it. Keep up the great work team GCN.
Is this some sort of wierd alchemy⚗ or is this art🎨 ? What an absolutely fantastic video and a truly fascinating and insightful video. You can really see that Ollie loves the subject and his passion shines through. Really in awe of what those men and women do there at the Look factory, really skilled workmen. Think it helps really show that Carbon bikes can be as Artisan as Steel or Titanium in the level of skill needed to craft a truelly stunning frame! Love those Look frames 💘 Got to say the best bit was Ollie teleporting though.. Who knew he could do that! 🚀
Great job Ollie. You did a great job explaining the design and production process in a fun, yet informative way. Thumbs way up on this video to you and the GCN crew.
An absolutely essential video for everybody who ride a bike nowadays. We just need to know how it's made, not just steel tubes assembled, but a puzzle of elements which makes a highly designed structure relying on a particular raw material : graphite.
Given the final result which exposes (instead of promoting) look cycles for negligent safety procedures at their factory, I would guess not that much time
Very informative. Developed much appreciation going in for all the manual work and material as well as the precision in drilling and assembly while making a carbon bike. Kudos everyone, and thanks GCN, LOOK and others making this video. Keep up the good work.
After THIS my appreciation and admiration of carbon fibre bikes has gone next level. The meticulous and labour intensive process that goes into manufacturing these masterpieces is just bananas! Every penny spent on a carbon fibre bike is undoubtedly exponentially worth it. In fact putting a price tag on it seems ulitaritian to say the least. It's a work of art and should be housed in a museum. And the people behind the scenes should be venerated beyond the highest of merits that can possibly be bestowed on a human being!!
Very insightful video. Seeing the labour intensive process, makes one appreciate the bikes even more. Guess Look is one of few bike brands left that don't manufacturer in the far east
Always loved the content presented at GCN - as of this year (and with more presenters) things are getting better and better. Great job guys and thank you. (my kids sill miss you Matt :) )
WoW...How excellent your video is. Love to watch it many times. Voice is clear, intonation is interesting, timing is good and above all they are excellent to watch. God Bless.
I've always had a fascination with Look. They've made some truly amazing products, and that 795 Blade RS is right up there on my 'want' list. Really interesting video, thank you 😊
lookcycletv any thoughts about the worker safety in the factory? Spray painting frames without respiratory mask and eye protection? Sanding frames with no mask on? And just using disposable n95 masks?
From a company of that particular size i would expect a better protection of the workers ! Carbon fiber dust must not be taken light minded. Studies clearly show that this material is not inert and may cause serious harm to your lungs. I see people without masks sanding and grinding the bikes. If i were LOOK i would not show this footage to anyone...
Oliver Dieball Agree, that’s first think I noticed! Bikes are build in a country where nobody cares about safety, apparently. Bean counters at Look would have to add cost of 😷 to their bikes.
Oliver Dieball, carbon fiber actually is inert. But you are correct that the workers should be using breathing protection such as N95 or better masks or ventillators, at least in the sanding and finishing areas of the plant. The danger is not chemical but rather mechanical, as the fine dust is harmful to the insides of your lungs, in a similar way that asbestos dust is harmful when inhaled. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1878535214003360
A great explanatory video for the uninitiated. Being over 60 and just moved from a relatively flat to hilly area, I've already had an enforced week off cycling due to a painfully sore tendon under a kneecap. Hence, I've just ordered the 765 E-Gravel, so wonderful to see where, how and by whom they're made and can't wait to cycle wherever and in whatever conditions.
OLI Epic Video and love the way you put this together from a presenter perspective - great presenting and you're always engaging and natural. The northern vibes are noticed as well - you're like the cycling version of Gary Barlow - top lad (LOL) and GCN absolutely made an awesome decision getting you involved. Also, not just this video but all them you're in, love your humble attitude and genuine love of cycling!
@@thomasnewton8997 Do what I did, buy a year old/last years model at half price. Many options in bikes if you do not have to have the newest models. Might be difficult in today's world, bike sales are off the charts with COVID.
There is no Colnago or Pinarello carbon manufacturing factory in Italy. The only thing Colnago does in Italy is glue together the lugged C64 from parts made in Asia and Pinarello are all made in China.... In the US, also not much going on other than Zipp, Enve and Hed making rims (much less labor intensive than making frames) and less than 1% of all Treks (10,000 bikes per year out of 1.5 million).
Is that carbon dust not harmful? I feel like other videos of people cutting/drilling carbon have massive ventilation systems and masks to deal with the carbon dust. I guess thats why their factory is in Tunisia?
Thank you for your feedback. We are proud of all of our manufacturing sites. In Burgundy (Nevers) France, where all pedals are made and all frames are designed and prototyped, and in Tunisia, where most of our frames are made. All our employees in France and Tunisia are equally treated according to our health and safety standards. We employ women and men, all of whom are proud of the brand and the skilled work they do. Most of them have been with the LOOK family for many years, and their loyalty and high level of craftmanship is what makes LOOK great. We run factory visits in France and Tunisia, for those interested in learning more.
I really enjoyed that. Hats off to LOOK for sharing their design and build expertise. I want a LOOK again! I borrowed one in about 1996! Some harsh comments below that possibly do have some merit but overall very good. 👍
A little late to the party! Great video on manufacturing carbon fiber bikes. I love riding Look Cycle bikes. My first Look was the KG56. I raced that thing so hard the clear coat cracked on the rear triangle. Now, I'm lucky ride to have the Look 785 Huez RS. Thanks GCN!!
This was a Well Presented Sequential Engineering for Maximum Type of Working Strengths per Component Required, the Materials Trimmed to Dimension, Processing Methods, Equipment and Manual Labor required. Thank you for the 20 minute education.
GCN, I don't think that quite right about Greg LeMonds bike that you showed . The bike he won the 86 tour on was Reynolds 753 , cos he's got it at home.👍
Might have used the carbon fibre one on a special stage or team time trial. He may very well have crossed the line on a 753 and done the majority of the stages on it.
This my first watch about frame carbon production, you as host looks enjoy with your stages Tunisia n France, success mate, soon trying to adventur in Indonesia my city mount bike production in Surabaya INDONESIA
Just like everything else: the cheaper it is, the less reliable it is. Unfortunately with carbon, it's not just "Oh, the steel is weaker so it'll bend easier" it's "Oh, the mold or material was faulty and now you have a catastrophic failure that can't be fixed. Or you get seriously injured". Right now, if you want to get 100% carbon bike and be confident that you won't die on it, you need to throw down at least 2 grand
@@chickenbradly I 100% disagree at your assumption that more expensive must be better on these, especially since I've seen many reviews of these Chinese frames after a lot of time and miles put into them with no issues. Admittedly there is still a question of their reliability if used for regular hard offroading, but so far they've been shown to be more than good enough for what 99% of people would put them through.
I used to work in the industry. the cheap chinese frames are made pretty much the same as more expensive frames, just with much worse working conditions. And, I might add, that a lot of the name brand frames are made in the same factories that the cheaper frames are made.. - Factories in some cases, make the frames for multiple brands in Taiwan and China..
The manufacturing process needs one more step: an ultrasound step. The ultrasound will detect any air bubbles or delamination in the carbon. For frames at this price point, there's no excuse to not ultrasound the entire frame.
Since you are intent demonstrating your knowledge How would go about it? Manual pulse echo A scan would be time consuming and of limited value because of the limitations imposed by the contour changes on frame Manual pulse echo really only works on nominally flat surfaces unless you are going to construct specialized transducers A thru scan squirted system will not work at al, so now you are out of options Also are there known issues where frames are failing and people are getting hurt. I suspect not. They be out of business quickly If it ain't broke don't fix it. You cannot inspect quality into the bike you have to build quality into it. Better to have a robust design and a robust process which has been vailidated by cut ups and measuring void content etc
LOOK and TIME are the definitely the best frame manufactures, owns their own factory and good QA. Way better than the others, whose BB tolerance is almost bullshit. According to Hambini, even hongfu has much better BB tolerance than Cannondale/Cervelo, while LOOK and TIME are really dead on for BB tolerance. Although the cost is pretty obvious with the hefty price tag.
Less obvious is the cost of getting warrenty work done or parts. Our LBS refused to carry their bikes due to having to call France get anything done. VERY difficult to work with, sorry to Hambinini.
Hambini doesn't own a single Look bike and is not aware of the issues. I own 3 of the top shelf framesets. Still love them, but getting some replacement parts is a pain in the ass and a costful one. Ironically, these very same bottom brackets of the Zed 2 and 3 crank have been giving their owners major issues. If the design is so complicated that it can only be reliably installed and serviced by Look own engineers then it is not a good design.
I really enjoyed that video. Great presentation and really informative but I do wonder why LOOK decided on Tunisia? Possibly because H&S regs are pretty much non existent which I guess reflects well in operating budgets and profit margins but not in the well being of its workers. Carbon fiber particles are incredibly abrasive to the lungs and eyes and I didn't see much PPE being worn. Lovely frames though and well out of my price range. I probably wouldn't buy one though as the cost of someone's health is too great compared to my personal enjoyment. Ethics seem non existent. Just my PO.
Awesome video! Well done job of describing the composite fabrication process and covering the science behind what goes into the composite structural design. "A" PLUS on this one!
00:08 Everytime "carbon fiber" appears, those misconceptions surfaces too. GCN itself explains that unidirectional CF is stronger than some materials, though it is prone to fail in some applications. You guys should rephrase it: "CF is MOST TIMES lighter, at CERTAIN APPLICATION stronger and enable the manufacturing easier for complex shapes". Seems like product placement.
Being a PhD scholar on these carbon fibers, I can say that You just put this complicated composite material into simpler and lucid words. Really appreciated.
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Hi sir, I just would like to know what are the difference between an expensive european carbon bike frame vs asian carbon bike frame specifically china brand. Example Specialized vs Twitter.
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I stupidly lost the account password. I would love any assistance you can give me.
@Frederick Jamal i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and im in the hacking process atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
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From someone who works in the Aerspace composite industry he did a good job simplifying a complex subject
Good
would it hurt the carbon or resin if you were to get the frame ceramic coated with the constant heat?
A lesson of carbon bikes and a lesson of how capitalism works...
@@justinwatts6210 probably
@@k20nutz thank you
40 years ago, my roommate was working in an aerospace test and development lab. He came home all excited about this new material, "carbon fiber," and told me how it was going to change everything. He was right. Thanks for the tour of the exact process for bikes. I have been wondering about it for a long time. 👍
We actually use a similar technology to produce carbon airplanes today. And guess what? They are really light and tough.
I love Look bikes so much, I bought one! Best bike I’ve ever had - a work of art.
We had 5646 hours
This has probably been my favorite video by GCN in a while, maybe ever. Just goes to show engineering is art. And now I really really really want a Look!
It was definitely cool, but I thought moots titanium shop was even better. They are handmade in the USA and there's just something about ti knowing that the bike is going to be around for generations and generations to come. The fact that carbon fiber is kinda a consumable bothers me a bit even though it's lighter..
Well look all you want.
best presenter on GCN. others are great but Olly just has way of making all videos interesting and he genuinely has seamless delivery
Such an amazing process and what a great video to document it! Thank you all for being honest in transparent in what is an ad/paid promotion.
Thanks Taylor 👍
I like this guy. Pleasant to listen to and not arrogant at all as so many are in this line of work.
I think this was my favorite GCN video of all time! Wow!!!!
Crikey, thanks Mr Luigi 👍
By having working with composite before , I can state that this video is well made and has showed the correct basics of composite production.
Composite manufacturing is pure art, if you have designed, simulated, tested and guaranteed that both layup and curing process is correct. Your product will perform as intended.... and that’s why we have so much bad carbon frames around. 🥺
Thanks for making this, Ollie & team GCN, absolutely brilliant.
I have a 675 Pro Team and a 979 Pro Team, I love them so much!
695 Mondrian baby:)
This semi-tutorial documentary is superbly constructed throughout! You answered questions as they'd naturally follow, informing at a pace easily and clearly revealing how this wonderful 'mystery-material' becomes a masterpiece. Amazing, all around! Thank you!
That blue LOOK frame looks so stunning
I'm an owner of 785 Huez RS and really enjoyed this video. Thanks!
Kudos on narrating the processes and the types of carbon....clear and NOT boring :)
Ollie is the best thing gcn could have brought to their channel
The other presenters are also very good. I think its a huge loss for cycling weekly.
B(r)ought 😉
If you’re 12.
Ollie and Emma. The hiring folks at GCN did well.
Agreed. Ollie is fantastic, as is Emma. In fact, all of the GCN presenters are excellent IMO. My only complaint is....I miss Matt!
I purchased a LOOK 486 monocoque carbon fiber bicycle in 2003. The dealer completed the bike with all LOOK carbon fiber handle bars, bottle holders, rims, etc. it’s a masterpiece of a bike to which I still have today in fabulous condition. I made sure to keep the frame from being marred. Original final cost to me was $9,000. Well worth it too. Colors are red faded in a white. Fabulous bike!
Awesome coverage of the Manufacturing process and some of the validation testing. It would have been good to mention and maybe show a snippet of the CAE (FEA) work that supports the early design stages. Kudos on the video and easily understood approach.
Top quality. This is the "television" of the future. GCN, you are realizing the potential of the world-wide web for the education and benefit of all, as so many nerds in the 90s had hoped. Dare I say, I'm almost coming to expect so high a level of content from your channel?! Wonderful job, yet again.
The best Factory tour that I have ever watched. I had so much fun! Very informative tour. Thanks Gcn And Look factory 😊
Great clip.
I can’t believe it took me almost a year to watch it...
what a treat!
Made me grateful for having a CF frame. And made me appreciate all the processes that are part of building it even more.
I've been watching this today lol :(
Totally Awesome Ollie!! Another great video. GCN just gets better and better 👍
ربي يحفظ خاوتنا التوانسة شرفتونا🖤خوكم من الجزائر الشقيق🖤
Whenever I see the amount of work that goes into bikes, from design and testing to the labour intensive manufacture and assembly process I rethink my complaints about how expensive bikes are. This ones no exception. Good grief, such a lot of peoples hard work is needed just to produce one bike!
I just had a new appreciation for my carbon bike. I guess I won't complain about how much it costs compared to aluminum bikes.
No, expensiveness isn't justified. I cannot justify a bike that costs like a car or more than a motorbike.
Frazer Goodwin my concern is how much are they paying workers? It’s clear that bike manufacturing is a complicated process but it’s also clear how over inflated the bike industry is. So yes appreciate your carbon bike but appreciate that is was made by a migrant worker getting paid very little.
@@thecrowfliescrooked People living and working in their home country are not migrant workers... They may be paid little by US or EU standard but probably have a decent living standard by local norms....
@@rc420r Materials cost for carbon frames are between $20 and $50, finished manufacturing cost around $300 to $600. The rest is marketing including sponsorship (divide the salaries of the Sky team by the number of F10 sold and it comes to nice added sum) and distribution margins (everyone involved has to make a living Brand, importer, store...).
Well done. Really appreciate that when you were pointing at things, you didn’t touch them with your bare hands. Saved one of those ladies a wipe down during the surface prep.
Great video So interesting to actually see these beautiful bikes being made and how much attention to detail goes into it.
Keep up the great work team GCN.
Cheers Marmalady!
Not to mention carbon footprint
Can finally understand how the LOOK Bike I had the pleasure of riding the other week is created. Truly Awesome knowledge!
god the teleporting and running across the mediterranean sea edits gave me a nice giggle thank you for that
Hello from Tunisia i just got even more excited about buying a carbon bike from the factory itself after watching this
Makes me appreciate my 595-Ultra even more. Thanks to the very skilled men and women in North Africa who make it all possible 👍
I definitely would love to see more of Ollie.
Is this some sort of wierd alchemy⚗ or is this art🎨 ? What an absolutely fantastic video and a truly fascinating and insightful video. You can really see that Ollie loves the subject and his passion shines through. Really in awe of what those men and women do there at the Look factory, really skilled workmen. Think it helps really show that Carbon bikes can be as Artisan as Steel or Titanium in the level of skill needed to craft a truelly stunning frame! Love those Look frames 💘 Got to say the best bit was Ollie teleporting though.. Who knew he could do that! 🚀
That's definitely the best video ever of GCN.
Great job Ollie. You did a great job explaining the design and production process in a fun, yet informative way. Thumbs way up on this video to you and the GCN crew.
Cheers Bert, glad you enjoyed it!
As a former production engineer, this takes thousands of process details to perfect. Please to more of these!
On the internet no one knows that you're in fact a highly intelligent carbon bike frame.
As a sentient carbon fiber frame, i can confirm.
@tobortine are you always giving negative feedback?
@@julianborabora I prefer to think of it as balanced input ;-)
@Saudade Then you must be clairvoyant since she's been dead for five years.
@@tobortine 😂
Thanks for the information on how carbon bikes are manufactured/ made and why they’re as expensive and as rare as they are.
Great video and very informative. Thank you GCN and Look!
An absolutely essential video for everybody who ride a bike nowadays. We just need to know how it's made, not just steel tubes assembled, but a puzzle of elements which makes a highly designed structure relying on a particular raw material : graphite.
Congratulations. I wonder how many hours go into the planning, filming, editing and cutting of such a video. And GCN produces them quite frequently.
They should make a segment just for that.
Given the final result which exposes (instead of promoting) look cycles for negligent safety procedures at their factory, I would guess not that much time
Reinhard Wall have you viewed the bike packing trip to Iceland. Filming is just brilliant.
@@GT-cx8vd just what i thought. No noise protection, no dust protection. Fumes mask possibly not WeChat should be. Still wouldn't mind look frame
The effort is grater for “about carbon” vids than about aluminum ones
As a both materials and bike enthusiast, it was a thrill to watch this video. Thank you
Excellent presenting from Ollie as usual, very interesting too
Go factory
Fantastic work Oliver. Never knew soo many beautiful people had a hand in making and painting carbon bike frames. You've made me wanna buy a Look
OMG !! GCN crew came to my country, and I didn't even know that there is a LOOK factory in tunisia 😁
Kalaa kebira sousse
Sfax
Look... Fit and Finish was Absolutely Beautiful... Never owned one but Always Admired them... 💥💥💥💥💥
Very informative. Developed much appreciation going in for all the manual work and material as well as the precision in drilling and assembly while making a carbon bike. Kudos everyone, and thanks GCN, LOOK and others making this video. Keep up the good work.
Cheers Baskin, glad you enjoyed it!
After THIS my appreciation and admiration of carbon fibre bikes has gone next level. The meticulous and labour intensive process that goes into manufacturing these masterpieces is just bananas! Every penny spent on a carbon fibre bike is undoubtedly exponentially worth it. In fact putting a price tag on it seems ulitaritian to say the least. It's a work of art and should be housed in a museum. And the people behind the scenes should be venerated beyond the highest of merits that can possibly be bestowed on a human being!!
LOL
Very insightful video. Seeing the labour intensive process, makes one appreciate the bikes even more. Guess Look is one of few bike brands left that don't manufacturer in the far east
Well the mid east at least! 😉
Yes, TIME has their manufacturing of unique carbon bikes in Europe. 👏🏼
Thank you for showcasing the Tunisian industry. Ignore the haters.
Always loved the content presented at GCN - as of this year (and with more presenters) things are getting better and better. Great job guys and thank you. (my kids sill miss you Matt :) )
WoW...How excellent your video is. Love to watch it many times. Voice is clear, intonation is interesting, timing is good and above all they are excellent to watch. God Bless.
Olly's a good laugh, talks to you so you understand, basically 😊
Good video with a lot of science! I am a civil engineer and know how it works - but the video is very well made!
I've always had a fascination with Look. They've made some truly amazing products, and that 795 Blade RS is right up there on my 'want' list. Really interesting video, thank you 😊
Thank you Jon!
lookcycletv any thoughts about the worker safety in the factory? Spray painting frames without respiratory mask and eye protection? Sanding frames with no mask on? And just using disposable n95 masks?
great bikes!!
@@christoffervarholm4134 Maybe they're alright without using one although the company has mandated them to use it?
@@christoffervarholm4134don't worry. tunisian employees are disposable
that is one beautiful Frame Set. drooling the whole time.
From a company of that particular size i would expect a better protection of the workers ! Carbon fiber dust must not be taken light minded. Studies clearly show that this material is not inert and may cause serious harm to your lungs. I see people without masks sanding and grinding the bikes. If i were LOOK i would not show this footage to anyone...
Good point. Machining carbon composites is horrible for human health and it's extremely difficult to contain the dust
They are using down draft tables but they should still be wearing better masks than those disposable ones.
Oliver Dieball Agree, that’s first think I noticed! Bikes are build in a country where nobody cares about safety, apparently. Bean counters at Look would have to add cost of 😷 to their bikes.
Oliver Dieball, carbon fiber actually is inert. But you are correct that the workers should be using breathing protection such as N95 or better masks or ventillators, at least in the sanding and finishing areas of the plant. The danger is not chemical but rather mechanical, as the fine dust is harmful to the insides of your lungs, in a similar way that asbestos dust is harmful when inhaled. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1878535214003360
Oliver Dieball I agree. Especially the sight of the woman with her nose outside of her face mask
A great explanatory video for the uninitiated. Being over 60 and just moved from a relatively flat to hilly area, I've already had an enforced week off cycling due to a painfully sore tendon under a kneecap. Hence, I've just ordered the 765 E-Gravel, so wonderful to see where, how and by whom they're made and can't wait to cycle wherever and in whatever conditions.
Good form. Well done Ollie.
This is one of the best videos I have ever seeen
Great video👍 I feel bad for the guy that was painting without any respiratory protection...Ticking bomb 💣
Haha, I see what you did there.😀
How is that even slightly allowed!?
easyx9mm
yeah...
might have a short lifespan cuz of his work
was that the only man ?
@@Bokuma01 Money.
Totally agreed with joren 02. GCN is much more exciting to watch now.
09:11 she's checking you out Ollie!
That’s funny I saw it too 😂
She didn't seem overly impressed. Poor Ollie.
Steven Tudor she’s only human.
😂
Very nice video of how carbon fiber bikes are made. Thank you..
OLI Epic Video and love the way you put this together from a presenter perspective - great presenting and you're always engaging and natural. The northern vibes are noticed as well - you're like the cycling version of Gary Barlow - top lad (LOL) and GCN absolutely made an awesome decision getting you involved. Also, not just this video but all them you're in, love your humble attitude and genuine love of cycling!
I’m ready for GCN to do a factory tour of Litespeed in Chattanooga TN.
The LOOK 695 is still my dream bike, the design on that machine is still out of this world,the 795 is Uber Cool but the 695 is ULTRA GREAT.
Oh man, I'd love a carbon bike, at my age my enjoyment would be much increased, I reckon.
If you can afford a carbon fiber bike treat yourself to one
@@thomasnewton8997 Do what I did, buy a year old/last years model at half price. Many options in bikes if you do not have to have the newest models. Might be difficult in today's world, bike sales are off the charts with COVID.
Fantastic video, thanks! Great publicity for Look bikes too.
LOOK this is an awesome video...
Watching from the Philippines!! 🇵🇭
Must do other cycle factory tour in Italy ( Colnago or Pinarello for example) and USA!!
There is no Colnago or Pinarello carbon manufacturing factory in Italy. The only thing Colnago does in Italy is glue together the lugged C64 from parts made in Asia and Pinarello are all made in China.... In the US, also not much going on other than Zipp, Enve and Hed making rims (much less labor intensive than making frames) and less than 1% of all Treks (10,000 bikes per year out of 1.5 million).
@@julmeissonnier i mean italian brand or us brand
@@albertomoschin7179 Check the trek factory tour in Wisconsin by Gcn
@@thibaultpiona7983 Correct only the top end Madone 6.9 SSL Project one made there (less than 1% of Trek volume)
True genius. I am humbled. You guys rock, on every level. Thank you!
1:24. I'm in love and it's not a bike.
You need to plan a vaction to tunis
I've had 3 Looks...KG 171 maybe was my fav....super classic. the standard in the mind. bravo
Is that carbon dust not harmful? I feel like other videos of people cutting/drilling carbon have massive ventilation systems and masks to deal with the carbon dust. I guess thats why their factory is in Tunisia?
Hell yes, need full face respirator.
Carbon dust is bad bad for your lungs like most very small particles especially the elongated ones (like asbest....)
Thank you for your feedback. We are proud of all of our manufacturing sites. In Burgundy (Nevers) France, where all pedals are made and all frames are designed and prototyped, and in Tunisia, where most of our frames are made. All our employees in France and Tunisia are equally treated according to our health and safety standards. We employ women and men, all of whom are proud of the brand and the skilled work they do. Most of them have been with the LOOK family for many years, and their loyalty and high level of craftmanship is what makes LOOK great. We run factory visits in France and Tunisia, for those interested in learning more.
Being proud of someone who clearcoats for (hopefully) 8h a day without a mask is just beautiful. Gotta love the corporate communications
I was wondering samething.... and Look answered in weird way... make labors more proud in Look working area
I really enjoyed that. Hats off to LOOK for sharing their design and build expertise. I want a LOOK again! I borrowed one in about 1996! Some harsh comments below that possibly do have some merit but overall very good. 👍
Does Oliver Bridgewood even have a home? He's in a new country every week!
I'm sure he is having the worst time now during the lockdown
A little late to the party! Great video on manufacturing carbon fiber bikes. I love riding Look Cycle bikes. My first Look was the KG56. I raced that thing so hard the clear coat cracked on the rear triangle. Now, I'm lucky ride to have the Look 785 Huez RS. Thanks GCN!!
15:25 - "Put in an oven"
* video cuts to a media blasting cabinet *
😋
thechosendude yep, I actually paused the video to scroll down to check if someone had already posted this.
Autoclave?
This was a Well Presented Sequential Engineering for Maximum Type of Working Strengths per Component Required, the Materials Trimmed to Dimension, Processing Methods, Equipment and Manual Labor required. Thank you for the 20 minute education.
GCN, I don't think that quite right about Greg LeMonds bike that you showed . The bike he won the 86 tour on was Reynolds 753 , cos he's got it at home.👍
Mark Booth nice fact check 👍🏻
Did the riders just use one frame back then, and not several over the course of three weeks, as today? Perhaps both are correct.
Might have used the carbon fibre one on a special stage or team time trial. He may very well have crossed the line on a 753 and done the majority of the stages on it.
This my first watch about frame carbon production, you as host looks enjoy with your stages Tunisia n France, success mate, soon trying to adventur in Indonesia my city mount bike production in Surabaya INDONESIA
Welcome to Tunisia
Marhaba
I love Tunisia barcha barcha
That was very informative! I appreciate the carbon frame bike and the bicycle industry even more!
I just woke up and thought the guy in the thumbnail was Gordon Ramsey lol😂
Maybe, 40 years younger
Must've felt weird
There was a cooking reference!
puts two slabs of carbon on a steel bike frame "WHAT ARE YOU?!"
Aaagghhh!!!
May the gods of The Factory bless you with a life of productivity.
I'd honestly be more interested in seeing how those £300 Chinese carbon frames are made.
Its probably a fairly similar process. I wouldnt be surprised if they are of similar quality too.
My only concern would be corner cutting to keep the costs down.
Just like everything else: the cheaper it is, the less reliable it is. Unfortunately with carbon, it's not just "Oh, the steel is weaker so it'll bend easier" it's "Oh, the mold or material was faulty and now you have a catastrophic failure that can't be fixed. Or you get seriously injured". Right now, if you want to get 100% carbon bike and be confident that you won't die on it, you need to throw down at least 2 grand
@@chickenbradly I 100% disagree at your assumption that more expensive must be better on these, especially since I've seen many reviews of these Chinese frames after a lot of time and miles put into them with no issues.
Admittedly there is still a question of their reliability if used for regular hard offroading, but so far they've been shown to be more than good enough for what 99% of people would put them through.
I used to work in the industry. the cheap chinese frames are made pretty much the same as more expensive frames, just with much worse working conditions. And, I might add, that a lot of the name brand frames are made in the same factories that the cheaper frames are made.. - Factories in some cases, make the frames for multiple brands in Taiwan and China..
Awesome sir I wish I have bike like that.. from Philippines happy watching..😄
The manufacturing process needs one more step: an ultrasound step. The ultrasound will detect any air bubbles or delamination in the carbon. For frames at this price point, there's no excuse to not ultrasound the entire frame.
Is crap anyways
you watched too much luscherteknik
Since you are intent demonstrating your knowledge
How would go about it?
Manual pulse echo A scan would be time consuming and of limited value because of the limitations imposed by the contour changes on frame
Manual pulse echo really only works on nominally flat surfaces unless you are going to construct specialized transducers
A thru scan squirted system will not work at al, so now you are out of options
Also are there known issues where frames are failing and people are getting hurt. I suspect not. They be out of business quickly
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
You cannot inspect quality into the bike you have to build quality into it.
Better to have a robust design and a robust process which has been vailidated by cut ups and measuring void content etc
how would one go about scanning an extremely complicated workpiece like a bike frame with ultrasound? seems impractical
Stop watching overhyped video would help
very cool tour :)
LOOK and TIME are the definitely the best frame manufactures, owns their own factory and good QA. Way better than the others, whose BB tolerance is almost bullshit.
According to Hambini, even hongfu has much better BB tolerance than Cannondale/Cervelo, while LOOK and TIME are really dead on for BB tolerance.
Although the cost is pretty obvious with the hefty price tag.
Less obvious is the cost of getting warrenty work done or parts. Our LBS refused to carry their bikes due to having to call France get anything done. VERY difficult to work with, sorry to Hambinini.
Hambini doesn't own a single Look bike and is not aware of the issues. I own 3 of the top shelf framesets. Still love them, but getting some replacement parts is a pain in the ass and a costful one. Ironically, these very same bottom brackets of the Zed 2 and 3 crank have been giving their owners major issues. If the design is so complicated that it can only be reliably installed and serviced by Look own engineers then it is not a good design.
@@82vitt Yep, that's why all my bikes are from Giant. No one can beat Giant's service, at least in Asia.
Not everything Hambini says is gospel. I'll just leave it there
Excellent video and really great to see what went into making my 795 Blade RS!
Man I wish more companies provided the option to buy the bike with no paint on it.
I think you can get one from China like that. Matte finish or glossy.
Gloss carbon fibre is the way to go. Classy and timeless and you can see the material and how it's layed up on the outside.
Awesome presentation Oli
goes to France, wears USA GCN t-shirt
Thank you for such a great, informative video - and you did it all with a little humor thrown in! Well done!
I really enjoyed that video. Great presentation and really informative but I do wonder why LOOK decided on Tunisia? Possibly because H&S regs are pretty much non existent which I guess reflects well in operating budgets and profit margins but not in the well being of its workers. Carbon fiber particles are incredibly abrasive to the lungs and eyes and I didn't see much PPE being worn. Lovely frames though and well out of my price range. I probably wouldn't buy one though as the cost of someone's health is too great compared to my personal enjoyment. Ethics seem non existent. Just my PO.
Awesome video! Well done job of describing the composite fabrication process and covering the science behind what goes into the composite structural design. "A" PLUS on this one!
00:08 Everytime "carbon fiber" appears, those misconceptions surfaces too. GCN itself explains that unidirectional CF is stronger than some materials, though it is prone to fail in some applications. You guys should rephrase it: "CF is MOST TIMES lighter, at CERTAIN APPLICATION stronger and enable the manufacturing easier for complex shapes". Seems like product placement.
I AGREE
i mean tbf they are pretty much sponsored by LOOK for this video so...