They are out of their f****** minds at that price. That must be including one of those idiotic market adjustments. This thing will never take off especially now with this market being what it is that prices are now slowly being depressed downward, and depreciations starting to kick back in like they're supposed to. I give it one year and you'll be able to pick up one of these things for 65 k
Ordered a trofeo for my wife in place of a p400 HSE velar just wasn’t getting built. You’ll much prefer the trofeo. It’s essentially stelvio qv engine sound/character/zf8 tuning, but with a far superior interior and much more comfortable air suspension
I am glad to see your description mentions the true competitors this vehicle was designed to go up against. It was not created to compete with the Stelvio Q because its based on the same platform and built in the same facility. The way Stellantis has cast the line-up from smallest to largest is as follows Tonale < Stelvio < Grecale < Levante. Even though the Grecale is built on the same platform as the Stelvio, it is technically the larger of the two. Its most direct competitor is the Porsche Macan that is where Maserati set their sights when they first started playing around with concepts years ago and was repeated again by its leadership. What the Italians do with 4 Cylinder engines is truly impressive. I have to admit that I am a Maserati loyalists, now having owned 5 in total. There are a couple of things I see with the interior that need some polish so I imagine when I decide to go from my Levante to one of these I will be checking to see if that fit and finish has been fixed or if I am going to be requesting the dealership get the fixes done. I have done that before on my Maserati's. Yea sure it should be right from the start but it isn't and it doesn't stop me from buying it.
@@jmwdba I got a cure for boredom: Get a used Fiat 500 Abarth. Hell of fun. Plus if you lucky you can pick one up for cheap. You can still keep the MAS. 😎
i was just about to ask if you were going to review this, really wanting to see if Maserati vehicles have truly changed. Thanks you, Joe, Lori and everyone who contributes to making this happen consistently
It looks like a Macan, especially from the front, but nicer overall. $92,000 is a lot of money for a 4 cylinder turbo. At that price, I think there are better options at this price like the BMW X3 or X4 M Competition. Great review Joe.
Can't see it....I know the Stelvios are "lower tech" but I'd rather wait and let the depreciation bring it into an actual price range commensurate with what the value being delivered is.
For me, this one is currently my favorite option in the segment. It's the biggest of them all, it has really fine interiors and 325hp seems good enough. Much more than all other 2.0 lts found in the market. The 'M' competition models compete with the Grecale Trofeo, not with this Modena.
@@miks564 I could buy that if the Modena was priced in the upper 60's - mid 70's, but DEFINITELY NOT in the 90's. Heck, not even in the 80's...c'mon, this is ridiculous. Inventories from all manufacturers are starting to rise (despite the war and COVID surging in China, which raises questions of its own as to the "faux shortage", but I digress), and so as purchasing falls behind inventories (because of silly folks overpaying in the first place), prices will have to come back in line, couple that with depreciation rates and VOILA!.....a Grecale priced more in line with what its ACTUALLY worth. Consider you can get a GLA45S in the low 70's (or upper 60's) and it has a 384 (or 415) HP spec engine. It's a LITTLE smaller than a Macan, but not by much. Not that I'm considering buying one, but you have to be honest with yourselves, Maserati. The trident only goes so far.
interior: good exterior: meh looks like a ford escape engine: and transmission: meh wished it revved a bit higher for a four banger and it should for the price. The transmission seems good though. wheels: good Overall : between meh and good.
Joe - The engine sounds so whimpy from the outside. It actually sounded better inside the car. Are they channeling some of the engine sound through the speaker??
Raiti's enters a car dealership: Dealer: Hi sir! what are you looking for today? Raiti: I need a car shaped like a pasta with red tomato sauce brakes and pizza size rotors, should have multiple race Twinkie pockets, should have double loaded chipotle burrito holders, with a side of guacamole chillers (so it doesn't get spoiled while doing a lap)
Been waiting for this one! Many people say the base Macan is almost the perfect performance SUV. The lighter engine and just-good-enough power allowing you to have mind-blasting fun while still staying mostly legal. This to me is the new alternative. That is probably one of the best sounding 4-cylinders I've heard, about as good as the AMG M139. This is why it pays to stay in school kids! 🙂
Yes I stayed in school and still ended up with a shitty Range Rover and a Mercedes with cheap plastic parts under the hood….pipes that keep breaking 😂😂😂😂…
Leasing with costs at these levels isn't worth it though....not with the money factors out there now. Smart money says wait for the regular depreciation cycles to kick back in a take the depreciation.... THEN I might consider it more.
Good Job with this review Joe, Now This is lux, Enough power and great interior and i gotta say for a 2L turbocharged inline-4 it has good sound on the rev there joe.
Hey Joe not that bad I kinda like it myself. Definitely different in my opinion, but the outside looks like a cross between a Escape and a Jaguar E Pace. I don't see Maseratis that much so Ill say their pretty unique. Hey Joe, since you and Lori are in Vegas. Is there more action from the CES show? I heard RAM will unveil their EV pickup?
Looks really nice!! Saw a vid of this SUV where another channel did the review couple weeks ago I he went to the autobahn Man!! He push it to 294 KM i think is about 178 mph!! I guess!!
I love how detailed you are with your reviews… and honest! I was considering this car because they have the 2023 Grecale Modenas at such a great price, but I couldn’t get myself to commit. I loved the metal paddle shifters, but the steering wheel reminded me of a Fiat too much… it’s beautiful, just something off about the price point (even with the deep discount). I wasn’t a fan of the breaks either
I have the X3BMW & I don’t like how the touch pad sits so low… because You have to keep looking down to manage it which most ppl do while I’m route not safe for driving. Do like the inside tho
@@ethenjordan2010 you can have the top of the line gv70 awd 6 turbo for 65k then go buy a Honda civic si for 30 to have as a nice weekend track car too
I had a 2018 Ghibli and didn’t have 1 problem. Now 6 months in a 2022 Levante and not 1 problem so far. That said, I’d probably wait at least year before getting a Grecale given it’s Italian and a brand new model.
Look at the power output and torque curve, not the number of cylinders. Number of cylinders was the way to look at engines 40 or 50 years ago. This block has a turbo and electric assistance. Being from Europe, I'm used to see 100+hp city cars with 3 cylinders and 1000cc. ..and yes, they can perform as good as any 100~120hp car if need. If not, they're what they meant to be: Fuel savers.
🇺🇸 *LOVE this new Maserati Grecale* !! *It's a BIT pricey* !! *GREAT detailed review* !! *Glad this SUV has a heads-up display* !! *Somehow I missed when you talked about the rear-view mirror/camera* !! #RaitisRides 🇺🇸
Even with the current dip in cryptocurrency, I’m still glad I can smile 😊 back at my portfolio of $105,850 built from my weekly trade, I’m having my fourth withdrawal in 10 business days.
Ron, do us all a favor. Tell us if the Grecale is also fun to drive. I know it’s heavier, but I wonder if inherits the direct steering and ‘swiftness’ of the Stelvio.
JJ ~ ya know what would be super duper fun? get an Alfa Romeo Stelvio & this baby & race each other, in the school zone and/or the track. make it happen - you're the one with the all elite connections lol. love ya brother, tony
19:06 that passenger seat is moved and leaned all the way forward to make it look like you have solid leg room - if you had that seat in a real position you'd be getting smashed 🤔
This is my next vehicle. Probably a Trofeo but definitely a Grecale. I have a Stelvio Quad, which is spectacular but the Maser has the luxury interior and tech that the Stelvio lacks.
@@olivergrizzly6346 I'm seeing some 22's (none in Rosso Etna) still hovering in the 80's...that's ridiculous. I almost picked up a 2020 when they were fresh for 75 OTD....THAT is more in line with what they're actually worth....I can't see paying 92K for a '23. It's insane.
@@MarceloLopezJr I wouldn’t pay $93 either. Alfas depreciate pretty quickly because of the lack of dealer network and bogus reliability reputation (mine has been perfect). If you could find a low mileage ‘20 or newer, you’d probably be in good shape. Mine is Masano Blue. I have aftermarket bronze wheels. Good color combo but I like the Rosso as well.
I feel like it’s in between the Stelvio 4cyl and the Stelvio V6 quadrifoglio. It’s hp and price is right in between the two. I might upgrade my wife’s Stelvio to this… (after I get my Integra Type S 🤭)
It looks like if Macan and Cayenne had a baby.
and a 2021 Ford Escape (front end)
lol😹
You on point🤣😂🤣
Exactly and a Chinese side chick in the mix…🤣🤣🤣
Nah looks like a ford puma
This Grecale took my by surprise and it is a nice luxury SUV. Loved the interior, yes it has tons of gloss black but everything looks pretty good.
@𝙏𝙀𝙇𝙀𝙂𝙍𝘼𝙈 𝙈𝙀 👉@RaitisRides5 please stop
Holy cow! Almost 6 figures for a 4 cylinder?!?!
The twin turbo v6 model is $103k which is pretty fast.
Junk too
Yeah and 10,000 miles later it's worth 50k
The exterior is beautiful!! Interior is pretty sweet aside from the aluminum. I'm not a big fan of the aluminum interior features.
They are out of their f****** minds at that price. That must be including one of those idiotic market adjustments.
This thing will never take off especially now with this market being what it is that prices are now slowly being depressed downward, and depreciations starting to kick back in like they're supposed to.
I give it one year and you'll be able to pick up one of these things for 65 k
Ordered a trofeo for my wife in place of a p400 HSE velar just wasn’t getting built. You’ll much prefer the trofeo. It’s essentially stelvio qv engine sound/character/zf8 tuning, but with a far superior interior and much more comfortable air suspension
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing that ownership input.
Can you order me one. Went to test drive yesterday and fell in love with the exhaust 😢
it's also longer
14:12 is the passenger door open or is the right side camera already broken?
I like this thing but it’s got very tough competition
I am glad to see your description mentions the true competitors this vehicle was designed to go up against. It was not created to compete with the Stelvio Q because its based on the same platform and built in the same facility. The way Stellantis has cast the line-up from smallest to largest is as follows Tonale < Stelvio < Grecale < Levante. Even though the Grecale is built on the same platform as the Stelvio, it is technically the larger of the two. Its most direct competitor is the Porsche Macan that is where Maserati set their sights when they first started playing around with concepts years ago and was repeated again by its leadership. What the Italians do with 4 Cylinder engines is truly impressive. I have to admit that I am a Maserati loyalists, now having owned 5 in total. There are a couple of things I see with the interior that need some polish so I imagine when I decide to go from my Levante to one of these I will be checking to see if that fit and finish has been fixed or if I am going to be requesting the dealership get the fixes done. I have done that before on my Maserati's. Yea sure it should be right from the start but it isn't and it doesn't stop me from buying it.
Before you go letting go of your levanté...why? Price?.
Do you tend to turn these over regularly?
@@MarceloLopezJr I tend to get bored every couple of years and want something new.
@@jmwdba what color is it? I might make an offer.
@@MarceloLopezJr it’s a White 2022 Levante GT in White with the Narissimo package so everything is trimmed in black with black rims.
@@jmwdba I got a cure for boredom: Get a used Fiat 500 Abarth. Hell of fun. Plus if you lucky you can pick one up for cheap. You can still keep the MAS. 😎
Banger Video Joe
Thanks razi!
i was just about to ask if you were going to review this, really wanting to see if Maserati vehicles have truly changed. Thanks you, Joe, Lori and everyone who contributes to making this happen consistently
Apparently not, huh?
I'm not crazy about Maserati but this one isn't a bad looking car
It is a looker for sure Bryan!
I like the red and black interior. Dash has a clean everyday driving look. Nice review !
It looks like a Macan, especially from the front, but nicer overall. $92,000 is a lot of money for a 4 cylinder turbo. At that price, I think there are better options at this price like the BMW X3 or X4 M Competition. Great review Joe.
yeah, X3M all day over this...
Can't see it....I know the Stelvios are "lower tech" but I'd rather wait and let the depreciation bring it into an actual price range commensurate with what the value being delivered is.
@@MarceloLopezJr agreed. The Stelvio Quad gets an actual Ferrari derived v6 engine too.
For me, this one is currently my favorite option in the segment. It's the biggest of them all, it has really fine interiors and 325hp seems good enough. Much more than all other 2.0 lts found in the market.
The 'M' competition models compete with the Grecale Trofeo, not with this Modena.
@@miks564 I could buy that if the Modena was priced in the upper 60's - mid 70's, but DEFINITELY NOT in the 90's.
Heck, not even in the 80's...c'mon, this is ridiculous.
Inventories from all manufacturers are starting to rise (despite the war and COVID surging in China, which raises questions of its own as to the "faux shortage", but I digress), and so as purchasing falls behind inventories (because of silly folks overpaying in the first place), prices will have to come back in line, couple that with depreciation rates and VOILA!.....a Grecale priced more in line with what its ACTUALLY worth. Consider you can get a GLA45S in the low 70's (or upper 60's) and it has a 384 (or 415) HP spec engine. It's a LITTLE smaller than a Macan, but not by much. Not that I'm considering buying one, but you have to be honest with yourselves, Maserati. The trident only goes so far.
Maseratis are very popular in North Houston and this will be another one on throttle on I-45
Nice history about the trident logo- didn’t know that before.
I'm a little underwhelmed by the 4 cylinder at that price, but you can't deny they put a lot of money into that nice interior.
Not worth 92k absolutely not!! Way to many vehicle under that price with more value and space too
I'd rather get a gv70
@@RayanMADAO gv70 has 4cyl😂
@@AAhmad3449they cost 50k less and 90% of them have a turbo v6 😂😂😂😂
@@cbruno12180I’d say it’s worth zero. Maserati is a joke
My dream Italian SUV! Wonderful job Joe.
@raitisrides earlier in the video you compared this to the Stelvio but price wise that seems much less expensive.
It depends what trim you come in at.
When done right red interior looks so good especially when the exterior is white.
You are so very right!
interior: good
exterior: meh looks like a ford escape
engine: and transmission: meh wished it revved a bit higher for a four banger and it should for the price. The transmission seems good though.
wheels: good
Overall : between meh and good.
I love your list that you made.
Great job with this video!! I always enjoy how much detail you put into these videos!! Keep up the good work!! ❤❤
I appreciate you letting me share it with you!
Hey Raiti's Rides Can You Make The 2023 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Estrema
Will do brother!
Joe - The engine sounds so whimpy from the outside. It actually sounded better inside the car. Are they channeling some of the engine sound through the speaker??
It does sound like there is engine sound coming through the speakers inside this car, like many other cars nowadays.
One of my favorite Italian cars!
Again, thx American brothers for reviewing Italian cars 🇮🇹❤🇺🇸
Raiti's enters a car dealership:
Dealer: Hi sir! what are you looking for today?
Raiti: I need a car shaped like a pasta with red tomato sauce brakes and pizza size rotors, should have multiple race Twinkie pockets, should have double loaded chipotle burrito holders, with a side of guacamole chillers (so it doesn't get spoiled while doing a lap)
You are freaking hilarious! Thanks for letting me share my car passion with you!
Nice review Joe, you’re the hardest working guy in the business.
Thanks for having my back.
Thank you!! I’ve been waiting for this one! I love it 😍
I am so glad that you are digging this one.
Been waiting for this one! Many people say the base Macan is almost the perfect performance SUV. The lighter engine and just-good-enough power allowing you to have mind-blasting fun while still staying mostly legal. This to me is the new alternative. That is probably one of the best sounding 4-cylinders I've heard, about as good as the AMG M139. This is why it pays to stay in school kids! 🙂
Yes I stayed in school and still ended up with a shitty Range Rover and a Mercedes with cheap plastic parts under the hood….pipes that keep breaking 😂😂😂😂…
But that sound in a maserati suv is just sad lol.
alfa romeo motor i platforma a stelvio je bolji od macan
I agree! If you had stayed in school you would’ve realized how much of a shit value this Ford Escape lookin pos is…
@@sinisajakus3602 Yeah this 4 cylinder petrol engine that has shit reliability and a redline of 5500rpm, is definitely NOT better than the ea888 2.0T
Nice review, when's the new Honda Pilot video coming out
In a couple weeks.
Great Job Joe 👍👍
Thanks you so much for your support.
I like the looks. Maintenance and dependability aren't Maserati's strong points so I'd lease rather than buy.
Good call David for sure!
Leasing with costs at these levels isn't worth it though....not with the money factors out there now.
Smart money says wait for the regular depreciation cycles to kick back in a take the depreciation.... THEN I might consider it more.
Good Job with this review Joe, Now This is lux, Enough power and great interior and i gotta say for a 2L turbocharged inline-4 it has good sound on the rev there joe.
Hey Joe not that bad I kinda like it myself. Definitely different in my opinion, but the outside looks like a cross between a Escape and a Jaguar E Pace. I don't see Maseratis that much so Ill say their pretty unique. Hey Joe, since you and Lori are in Vegas. Is there more action from the CES show? I heard RAM will unveil their EV pickup?
It looks nothing like the Escape. The F pace is clunky and weird looking!
Wow Joe, you called it a Pasta rocket I call it the Italian Disciple.
hey joe, good to see ya !! Love the channel
Love the car but can't afford it on a fixed income! Great job as Always Joe but it needed LED Fog Lamps
I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the good work and I love the video 💯💯👍
Thanks brother man!
Rented one for a week.
Found it to be awesome all-around performance, style, and trim.
Love your energy! Awesome review!
Looks really nice!! Saw a vid of this SUV where another channel did the review couple weeks ago I he went to the autobahn Man!! He push it to 294 KM i think is about 178 mph!! I guess!!
Definitely want to hear your impression on the Trofeo version.
Beautiful review, beautiful car. Of course Italians do it better, even when having to use Stelantis bin parts.
So very true Geno!
"Keyfob condom" ...you can't get that kind of humor from other reviewers that's why I love your channel
Does it come in black as well?
Need to purchase two of them so you have one you can drive while the other one is in the shop.
I love how detailed you are with your reviews… and honest!
I was considering this car because they have the 2023 Grecale Modenas at such a great price, but I couldn’t get myself to commit. I loved the metal paddle shifters, but the steering wheel reminded me of a Fiat too much… it’s beautiful, just something off about the price point (even with the deep discount). I wasn’t a fan of the breaks either
Thank you for much for taking the time to say that and for letting me share it with you!
This is one of the fast growing car channels nowadays, Period.
Raiti is in Tampa?!?!?!? my hometown????
You better believe it!
Great stuff Joe! I’m a huge Maserati fan, but 92k for this SUV is way too much money. Thanks for bringing it to us.
MSRP of $92 K for 4 cylinder turbo ???!!! Just get a Jaguar F Pace SVR with the supercharged V-8 with 550 HP for the same price.
I have the X3BMW & I don’t like how the touch pad sits so low… because You have to keep looking down to manage it which most ppl do while I’m route not safe for driving. Do like the inside tho
I like how the screen bends. Never seen that before. Good looking fresh interior for Maserati 👌🏽
The interior is really done well.
Underwhelmed by how it looks and what you get for that price
Can get a much nicer AMG for that price.
@@ethenjordan2010 you can have the top of the line gv70 awd 6 turbo for 65k then go buy a Honda civic si for 30 to have as a nice weekend track car too
welcome to the world of maserati
I'm not usually a fan of red leather interior, but for some reason it works in that vehicle.
It's desperately missing the flat black trim around the wheel wheels. That would put this vehicle over the top.
Is that the same motor that is in an Alfa Romeo Stelvio?
No it is not. This is a hybrid version.
Next time go over the Skyway Bridge. Great review.
Thanks Bruce that is a great idea!
Don't say it, don't say it...... It looks like Porsche Macannnn!
Nailed it.
Cool car
Love you Joe & Steven
My favorite local youtuber
I had a 2018 Ghibli and didn’t have 1 problem. Now 6 months in a 2022 Levante and not 1 problem so far. That said, I’d probably wait at least year before getting a Grecale given it’s Italian and a brand new model.
No more blue face gauge’s?
Thank God I will buy one for myself
Perfect review James Woods!
It is a unique looking car … 4 cylinder turbo doesn’t cut it..zonk…great review Joe
Look at the power output and torque curve, not the number of cylinders. Number of cylinders was the way to look at engines 40 or 50 years ago.
This block has a turbo and electric assistance.
Being from Europe, I'm used to see 100+hp city cars with 3 cylinders and 1000cc. ..and yes, they can perform as good as any 100~120hp car if need. If not, they're what they meant to be: Fuel savers.
I seen it in person in October and i thinking about it to i seen the price but that just mean ik my budget but its beautiful
I can understand where you are coming from.
🇺🇸 *LOVE this new Maserati Grecale* !! *It's a BIT pricey* !! *GREAT detailed review* !! *Glad this SUV has a heads-up display* !! *Somehow I missed when you talked about the rear-view mirror/camera* !! #RaitisRides 🇺🇸
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Maserati is back!!!
You may be right!
Is this the sister to the Alfa Tonale?
Very well detail review, great job Joe.
It's hard to notice, Joe, but it also has 5 Tridents within the rim itself. Awesome video again. You're definitely the best in the business.
These are definitely my favorite rim option on the Grecale
@@Taquhi Mine too! If only I could afford one. 😂
Is this basically an upscale Stelvio?
Ron, do us all a favor.
Tell us if the Grecale is also fun to drive. I know it’s heavier, but I wonder if inherits the direct steering and ‘swiftness’ of the Stelvio.
Raiti explained the Maserati logo better than Google ❤
Is this based on the Alfa Romeo Stelvio?
I like it, but it as good as the Alfa Romeo Stelvio?
I think it is better.
Niiice ..Great review, brother! 🤗
Thank you so much for taking the time to say that.
Nice, but a lot of money for a 4-cylinder drive train, I'd dumb down to a Stelvio Quadrifoglio and save money, haha. Great review Team!
Alfa Romeo and maserati got the best looking logo
Lovely car n video
I am glad that you are liking this one Sonal.
JJ ~ ya know what would be super duper fun? get an Alfa Romeo Stelvio & this baby & race each other, in the school zone and/or the track. make it happen - you're the one with the all elite connections lol. love ya brother, tony
On throttle, and twisty bits lolol I love those terms !!!! Lololol
Great review
Is this tall person friendly? I’m 5’9
I have a feeling Maserati held a gun to Raitis head and told him not to mention anything about Porsche 😂
LOL You are hilarious.
19:06 that passenger seat is moved and leaned all the way forward to make it look like you have solid leg room - if you had that seat in a real position you'd be getting smashed 🤔
I want to see you review Cleetus McFarlands 1000 hp C7.
This is my next vehicle. Probably a Trofeo but definitely a Grecale. I have a Stelvio Quad, which is spectacular but the Maser has the luxury interior and tech that the Stelvio lacks.
What year is your QV? I'm thinking of picking one up....I like the grecale, but the price point doesn't cut it...
@@MarceloLopezJr Mine is a ‘22. There are decent discounts in the remaining new ‘22s.
@@olivergrizzly6346 I'm seeing some 22's (none in Rosso Etna) still hovering in the 80's...that's ridiculous.
I almost picked up a 2020 when they were fresh for 75 OTD....THAT is more in line with what they're actually worth....I can't see paying 92K for a '23. It's insane.
@@MarceloLopezJr I wouldn’t pay $93 either. Alfas depreciate pretty quickly because of the lack of dealer network and bogus reliability reputation (mine has been perfect). If you could find a low mileage ‘20 or newer, you’d probably be in good shape. Mine is Masano Blue. I have aftermarket bronze wheels. Good color combo but I like the Rosso as well.
Italians, I got lost at Bologna and Folio. We talking, food, phones, cars? Haha Great video as always!
Worth the money 👏
The keyfob condom lolololololo😂😂😂😂 im liking the video just for that
92k for this... 😳😳.. For the same 2.0 turbo in the stelvio that's a major ZONK!
I feel like it’s in between the Stelvio 4cyl and the Stelvio V6 quadrifoglio. It’s hp and price is right in between the two.
I might upgrade my wife’s Stelvio to this… (after I get my Integra Type S 🤭)
Pls go test drive a gv70 6cylinder sport prestige for 65k topped out spec awd and refreshed interior too pls
Some body is waiting for that Integra Reveal and review lol.
How much it cost
Not bad, but for the price I'll stick with Macan.
Would you pick porche,Maserati or bmw when it comes to luxury suv
I'm wondering do the Maserati family have regrets selling their car company because of the amazing history 🤔
No because then they would be stuck making these crossovers
No Regrets Every other car company specially lux brand at some point gets bought out.
Its hard not to call it Metharati Grecale...thanks Tyler Hoover!
LOL You are hilarious!
But how do you get out ?
Grecale makes the Macan look like a homely little turtle.
I like but the biggest zonk is that I’ve always heard more bad about them vs good and it makes me confused on why and are they really good?
Ir really depends on who you ask, I would say get rid of it before the warranty runs out.
@@RaitisRides That’s a good way of looking at it. I’ll definitely see if I can look Into that more from people.
It’s pretty common looking, with that slight Maserati change up, but not enough to make me fall in love with it.