Subaru Myths Busted! What Everyone Gets Wrong About Subaru!
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Glad you reminded everyone that Maintenance is the key to longevity.
What makes Subaru different than other “AWD” cars is the rear wheels don’t turn off after 25 mph. They stay on at all speeds. Driving on the highway in the rain is safer because it keeps all wheel traction. Times when I went around turns in the wet and starting to slide my rear, I stayed on the gas and drove back into traction. Other “AWD” cars are FWD at speeds over 25mph and act as such during lost of traction. Yeah, Subarus aren’t just for snow.
100% this. Subaru had to start putting "symmetrical AWD" so people would stop assuming it's a traction assist like some other cars.
With a lot of cars, the awd system doesn’t kick in at all until it see slipping
I love the semetrical awd system on icy roads, it's your best bet. Subaru's new vehicles offer different biases for your awd, like their x-mode. If you know what to expect from your 50/50 symmetrical it will take you as far as the fancy new modes!
@@Zensiji The automatics are still continuously variable in the older ones.. there's some lockup solenoid mods you can do to lockup torque split offroad though 😊
Yes and no. Some use Haldex where it’s fwd biased and can turn the rear diff off until they need it but that’s usually just transverse mounted Audis/vws. BMW xdrive is full time rear biased awd. Gtr is full time rwd biased awd. Evos are full time awd some like evo X has torque vectoring rear diff. Focus Rs is full time awd as well. Amg 4 matic iirc is also full time awd. Gr Corolla is also full time. Longitudinal mounted Audis are full time awd like my b5s4 but it’s got open diffs in the front and rear and torsen in the center. My sti has lsds front center and rear and handles infinitely better than my Audi in all weather.
I had a 1998 Forester that needed head gaskets replaced at 245000 miles. I'll take that! Had that repair completed and sold that car at 275000 miles, in good running condition
YES!! well done. Tired of hearing from the baby Toyota fanboys that Toyota engines are bulletproof, one oil change every decade, blah blah blah…it’s a bunch of BS. Subaru’s are just as capable of getting the same amount, if not higher mileage than Toyota.
@@martinr8278 i drive a toyota camry v6 . best car i ever owned spent maybe 1k on repairs since 2011 except for oil and tires. also had a 2002 forester with did leak a little from head gaskets but who cares? car rotted well before engine and transmission will fail. sold it to scrap yard for 600.00 in still running condition
All engines have problems. However, the fact that Subaru did not address the head gasket problems for over a decade is disgusting. Yes, it was one engine series but it was their main engine for the most popular and highest volume vehicles (in the USA) for what 12+ years?. Why didn't they put in MLS gaskets on the vehicles in 2001 when it was clear their was a problem? Terrible management decision to leave an expensive repair to their customers.
Had to give their dealerships something to fix.
They wouldn’t be in business today if they had spent the money at the time to fix all of them or at the time engineer a fix. They were struggling to maintain a foothold in the US
You’re right. I’d rather have a Ford with an internal wet belt driving the oil pump, a Honda with oil dilution and head gasket issues, a Chevy with everything that goes wrong with GM, a Chrysler with internally mounted water pumps, VWs with… again… EVERYTHING going wrong, or a Hyundai/Kia with the optional standard always sludge feature.
Subaru with their slow iterative changes to improve their engineering and reliability over time really stands out as horrible OEM behavior that lasted a few years 20 years ago.
They should do what everyone else does and slowly make their vehicles worse.
@@Austin-cg7be Couldn't they7 have just started installing MLS gaskets in the early - mid 2000's?
Watched a history explanation of the head-gasket issues and the issue didn't affect everyone. It only affected people in certain conditions, which made the issue extremely difficult to diagnose. I'm going off of memory, so take this with a grain of salt. In one of the cases it was the battery getting over-used in slow traffic when the alternator wouldn't put out enough power and high electrical load like the AC, causing the battery to vent more and the air currents in the car caused the sulfuric acid to condense on the other side of the engine and get into the coolant. The other was caused by a grounding issue that could occur if corrosion in the correct area and the electric potential caused the metal gasket to corrode via the coolant.
I bought my 2017 Impreza new and it has over 150k on it now. The only "repairs" I have made so far is a brake caliper and two rear wheel bearings. I consider both of these to be more of a New England road salt issue really. I have followed the factory 6,000 mile service schedule religiously.
Altogether, we have owned more than ten Subarus as a family over the years. Several were over 200k. The only one we didn't sell to another person to drive was a 2001 Forester with 210k that had a rusted subframe that I didn't want to deal with (again, a New England road salt issue).
I love my AWD system because it has saved me several times in unexpected icy and hydroplaning conditions.
Keep up the good work, Mr. Subaru!
I hope the 6,000 mile service schedule isn't being applied to the oil changes. I'd never go over 4-5k on oil changes. Some manufacturer recommendations are just absolutely ridiculous. Like Mercedes recommended on their 2003 E500's, oil changes every 10,000 miles. That's ridiculous, I don't care what the manufacturer says.
As a general rule of thumb across all vehicles. Old school conventional oil should be changed every 2,000-3,000 miles, Synthetic Blend should be changed every 3,000-4,000 miles. And full synthetic (what our Subaru's take) should be changed every 4,000-5,000 miles. 6,000 isn't terrible. But I'd personally say it's 1,500 too much, definitely 1,000 miles too much. 4,500 is the most cost efficient time to change it. 4,000 if you have the extra money and really want it to last forever.
I've had 8 Subarus since 1994. Have 2 current model Outbacks. The AWD has saved me several times on ice; it has been amazing. Recently I got buried to the axles in my 2024 XT, in soft sand. 2 diagonally opposed wheels were spinning freely in the air I was buried so deep. Put it in X mode, stepped on the gas, and it put the power to one wheel and it pulled me right out. Damn. The strength of the build has saved me from injury in high speed wrecks twice now. Can't say enough good about them. Thanks for your channel, mate.
8?? That many cars means they didnt last very long lol
@@jonc2914 Assumptions get you no prizes. So, since 1994, which is 30 years after all...
Wrote the first 2 off in 60mph wrecks. The third I sold when I moved to another country. I sold another when I started working in Africa and didn't need 2 cars. Then I replaced it with another one when I realised I actually do need 2 cars. Then I leased one for my wife, which we returned at the end of the lease. Are you keeping up? That's 6. We presently own 2. Over 30 years, that's not bad.
So tell me again what that means?
I just put in a new 5MT transmission in my 04 WRX Wagon and I will say, it was the most taxing transmission I’ve ever had to R&R, but it is also the first time I’ve ever worked on one as well. I bought the car and put about 10,000 miles on it before the center diff and transmission went out. Definitely a learning experience and had I had a lift, I probably could’ve had an easier time, (I was working in a single car garage on jack stands). Love my Subaru!!!
I live in Texas. I drive a 2020 wrx sti. No snow, but we do get random rain showers, and the awd comes in handy. Most of all, Subarus sti comes with a factory unlimited smiles per mile that a win for me
You’re Dead on Mr. Subaru I own 5 Subaru’s at the moment and I love them.. I would never own other brand except Toyota.. 4Runner to be exact..
Like all cars there are certain things that need to be taken care of, or at least be knowledgeable of. For example, my 2011 MK6 GTI are known to have timing chain issues, water / fuel pump issues, PVC issues. And all VWs door and windows will have issues if you keep them long enough. My car has 104k miles on it. I have done maintenance on it...oil changes at 3k etc. I think I will be able to get at least 250k miles out of this car. I take very good care of it. That cost money and time.
I am at 3… but 6 overall.. currently a: 2024 Forester, 2020 STI, 2014 Impreza.. forester and STI purchased as brand new
A good friend of mine rebuilds cylinder heads for our local automotive machine shop. He is still doing cylinder heads due to failing head gaskets on new Subaru's. Yes the last one he did was from a 2023 forester. The problem according to him isn't as big as it was in the past, however it's still happening. These cars that he's doing the work on are not modified, all stock and are failing from the factory.
Just cause something is stock or new doesn't mean you don't have to take care of them and they'll be fine. Subaru needs an oil change every 3 to 5k miles but I do 3 on the dot, beat the shit out of my 2020 gt86 (my daily and not a day I don't hit redline) and I've had no issues and I take care of her
IMO these new 8,000-10,000 interval oil changes are gonna backfire, especially with these new turbo engines. Agreed on maintenance!
Do what? 5,000 oil change max.
@@MrSubaru1387for the 21 ascent they have us changing it at every 7k miles. Should we change it at 5k?
@@MrSubaru1387 I know,
I saw that the recommendation on the new tundra and Tacoma is 10k intervals. I’d never go that long.
@@dustinmorse1055 Always change the oil at 5K and no longer
I do 6 months or 3k miles on my 22 wrx
I had a 2015 STi and I regret getting rid of it. Had 100k km's on it, roughly 60k miles, I had zero issues with it. When I traded it in, the mechanic who did the safety on it to get it lot ready was surprised to see how amazing condition it was in. There was zero signs of leaks. When I traded it in, it was in showroom condition. The maintenance was always done when needed. I had zero warranty claims on it, and zero recalls on it. Had it for 5 years, and I never bagged drove it either. I currently have a 2024 VW Golf R. All I have to say is, i'll pick the STi over the R any day.
Especially a bummer since they essentially don't lose value anymore. 🥲
should any car leak at 60k miles?
@@gorillamoto5329 It's very common sadly. For most brands really. 😂
I'm pleased to hear you say you that you'd choose the STI over the Golf R. Before I bought my 2016 STI I was considering the Golf R but because of the German maintenance cost and higher purchase price I went with the STI and I love her. A Focus RS and Evo were options too but I couldn't pass up the price I got my STI for. I still want a Focus RS though.
@802Garage I've never seen or experienced that. And I've bought cars with over 100k miles
2017 Impreza here in the NorthEast (rust) with 110,000 miles and just had to get the rear wheel bearings replaced for the first time. No complaints here. We use it for long trips - great gas mileage!
My 1998 Legacy with the 2.2L engine was finally retired with 266,000 miles 6 months ago. Engine, Transmission, front and rear differential all original still worked perfectly. The car died because the ABS controller melted down and took a bunch of other electrical wiring with it. once repaired and running there were too many other melted wiring issues to chase down and fix on a car that took me from 2100' to 6100' elevation for work for it's last 8 years and was very corroded from sand and salt. Super reliable
My 1999 30th Anniversary Edition Legacy survived a broken timing belt and lived to 2022 and 278,000 miles when the rust got too severe to safely drive it and the transmission started to rev-bang when downshifting from 4 to 3.
Yep my older cars only get retired at hundreds of thousands of miles due to rust. Such a shame wish I could keep them all forever.
Awe dude..sorry to hear that. I'm afraid Mines headed that way..love my subyroo 30 yrs 210000
Dont get the new ones tho, to many problems with it that subaru doesnt address it
My Legacy L Brighton’s legendary 2.2L outlasted the rest of the car. RIP!!
I owned 2 Fords bought new in the last few years and took good care of them. They both had problems. The last one had so many problems I sold it at 20k miles and bought a Subaru. I expect the Subaru to be reliable because it is a naturally aspirated drive train, made in Japan, that has been around and should have the kinks worked out. Of course now I'm worried about some TCV valve thing thanks to this channel. So, thanks for that.
That issue is covered, just drop it off at your local stealership 😆
Ford is a brand I personally... Avoid.
2015 Impreza manual (not the sport). Head gasket hit me at 134k. The babe is slow AF, but shreds in the snow never once got stuck in even in 6”. Also the A/C bogs down the car hard.
A/C doesn't bog at full thriottle afaik
"Subarus are slow"
Ummm, I don't have any issues with how my 18 NA Forester drives, but I will say a coworker took me to lunch in his Hyundai Elantra, and it scooted. I'd chock it up to the Elantra being lighter and maybe his lead foot, but also maybe the Subaru FEELS slower, due to the AWD giving you a different feeling of power delivery? Idk. Drags a 1k pound teardrop trailer at highway speeds no problem. 👍
The CVT makes it feel slow
@@enmass90 To be fair, my 18 Forester is a manual transmission, so I don't have that issue, but the wife's Outback is CVT. I downshift with the paddle shifters to get to the higher rpm/power band to get on the highway and pass with a little more confidence, but I wouldn't call the car "slow" in any way.
Then there's me with a modified 07 WRX wagon with 300 AWHP, not a race car by any means but very far from slow lol
My Crosstrek 17 is the same . The Cvt in mine feels odd but they always feel odd, they feel like the slip sometimes but there not. I have 170k on mine and its running great..
@@kryptonite754in modern times it is slow. Just try Tesla lol. Or rs6.
(I drive 03 sti spec c)
First time subaru owner, picked up a 2010 forester needing head gaskets. Your tips have been helpful (head bolts) and i commend you for your content and presentation and you have a fantastic voice.
My dealership is single-handedly proving the myth of outrageous cost to maintain. 403.15 for fuel injection cleaning service, 224.99 brake fluid flush, 489.99 for spark plug r&r, 289.95 for coolant flush, 322.03 r&r serpentine belt, 763.68 replace lower radiator hose, 732.73 replace upper radiator hose, 79.90 replace wiper blades. I’ll have about 300.$ in parts including a tool to vacuum out the cooling system, the entire job should take a couple of hours with the injection cleaning taking the bulk of the time. Labor and parts markup is crazy. Estimate dated 8/12/2024.
A lot of that is easy to do yourself and not even necessary...
It's mostly labor where I am. I have only brought my 2020 Forester twice in with 65k miles, but diag fees alone now are $200 and they mark up labor hours itself on top of the 150/hr. Somehow they thought they were gonna convince me for a $1000 spark plug job... Parts prices aren't too bad in general though from my dealership
@@Starch1b2c3d4a absolutely the radiator hoses estimate blew me away, that job can be accomplished in minutes about 30.
There are always stealerships, but generally Subaru maintenance costs less than most other brands. Part costs specifically are very reasonable if you look them up yourself.
$400 fuel injector cleaning? ??? Go buy a couple bottles of FI cleaner and put it in your gas tank. DONE. $10.
PEOPLE NEED TO SHUT THE F##K UP ABOUT THE HEAD GASKETS
Why? Every Subaru my family has owned has had a head gasket replacement.
@DustanT Sounds like a personal problem, lol. Everybody who understands these cars know that only one interation of the EJ had a head gasket issue from the 90s - 00s. It’s been fixed decades ago, lol…
@@builtvisions that’s not true though. Right up to and including 2007 suffered the oil leak externally from the head gasket. I’ve replaced a few. That said, it wasn’t catastrophic and was after 150,000kms. But all the single overhead cams had it happen.
@arthurmiller-vl6sw Yes, that's what I said. It was the 90s - 00s era of NA 2.5 EJs that had the problem. It's been resolved for nearly 20 years...
hed gaskit
I have owned 3 different Subarus and have driven 4 as company use vehicles. My 2019 Outback Limited is a terrific car, and I consider it to be the swiss army knife of cars. I may never sell it. One week I can take a long road trip and comfortably get 30 mpg. The next week, I am off to the mountains to get to the trail head, go fishing, or camping. It handles washboardy roads better than anything else out there.
Wheel bearings on the other hand are a weakness. Mine started roaring at 45K and others even sooner
Weird. I'm still on my 2008's original wheel bearings. Over 100k miles.
I replaced rears at 72k from a wrecked identical ‘14 impreza wagon.. originally from New England, the car is mid Atlantic now, no issues at 115k
Strange mine just hit 200k still on original wheel bearing and just did the front cv shafts and this car car gets a lot of snow and fire reading plus tows a tent trailer and a motorcycle trailer.
The Kia and Hyundai get me😂
My Forte has 210,000 kms, no major issues other than the rear brakes all gave out to years ago and ended up having to replace the right rear caliber again a few days ago. Only paid $11k cdn for the car new (2015).
Listen. Because of Mr. Subaru, I bought a 2022 Crosstrek sport. That 2.5 engine is a blast. It really compliments the weight of the car. If I really want to move, I push the sport button on the steering wheel and go.
Some people claim that Subarus are “slow”, yet I’m always ahead of traffic in my 2015 Subaru Forester.
Same here, in my 2021 Forester Premium. It accelerates plenty fast at 3,500-4,000 rpm. Or to 6,000 rpm if i really have to get ahead of fast traffic speeding up behind me.
You should always add a 4 cylinders or 6 engine.
Same in my 2018 Forester SJ, and I have a European version with "small" FB20 engine. When other cars shift gears, my Forester just keeps on accelerating.
same, might not be the most powerful but the CVT keeps it in the powerband
@@Imjustacarguy Does traffic know they're in a race? :p
A good friend of mine in high school had a 1973 D/L in which head gaskets blew all the time. You could also hear the car rusting away. That was many years before 1997. GREAT VIDEO!
I had a 06 WRX and now I have 06 STI. I do pretty much all the stuff myself and it's pretty easy. Love that car. Oil changes every 3k km with Bardahl XTR 5W50! I believe if you maintain them right, they will take care of you
Both my subarus had big engine/cvt issues that were luckily taken care of under warranty. Other than that, no major problems. Very dependable cars. But I can see how people would become huge haters if they have to fix things that are out of warranty...
I worked 35 years as a mechanic, never seen a Subaru with a failed head gasket, had several customers that drove them, did brakes, suspension, A/C, window motors, clutches, and maintenance...I like them better than GM, Ford, and Kia/Hyundai. And easier to repair.
Started my driving life with a 01 SF Forester. Bounced between two WRX, 1 STI, 1 LGT, 1 Baja, 1 BRZ and now in a EJ20X swapped SG Forester. over the past 20 years. Only had 1 head gasket failure with all my cars. Fantastic cars importantly handling. Keep the motors stock as much as possible but coilovers are a must for improved handling.
What also didn’t help the headgasket problem is the felpro headgaskets that only last 30,000miles before the coating separated and leaked.
Use WRX or cometic headgaskets and never have another problem.
Slava Ukraini. 😁
Genuine turbo headgaskets on any ej20/ej25 n/a thank you .
I used to hate Subaru because of what I heard. But I always love the gd Sti. Well I found one that was clean, no rust and clean title and I had to buy it. I’ve been missing out because this thing is amazing. The awd system is amazing and the handling is even better.
Yup.. my 2020 STI is amazing… 16k miles since virgin purchased..
Good thing I’ve been watching your videos for a long time, and the “myths” never had time to take hold.
I know I am 76 years old,on my fourth outback,back to 2006,the 2.5 non turbo,is really quick enough!They are great!
Another advantage of the Subaru is the lower center of gravity. This is huge when in "dynamic" situations. The slow myth is funny to me. I had to drive a Dodge K car in the late 80s and 90s. That was SLOOOOOOOOOOW. Drivers today are spoiled. Even slow cars are fast compared to some of the smog choked vehicles of the 80s. I have a 2016 Legacy with well over 100k miles. The only repair, other than maintenance, was replacing the PCV valve and PCV hose. I do keep up with all maintenance. It is a mid model that I bought used for a daily driver. I love it. Comfortable, reliable, and good mileage. Hate the black interior, but that is what it has.
My aunt had a 1981 Plymouth Reliant that went from 0-60 in an hour. I had a 1987 Chevy Spectrum “Express” 5-speed manual that I had to floor at entrance ramps in Queens, NY to not get rear ended by oncoming cars and trucks. All noise and no speed. Yep, today’s drivers are definitely spoiled😂
@charlesperry1051 how much did it cost to replace the PCV valve and hose? Parts and labor cost?
@@lennygarrison6836 Parts we under $100. Labor was free as I did it myself. The only hickup was I split the hose trying to remove it. It had gotten very hard and brittle. I had to run with the hose taped for a few days while I waited on a replacement. None of our local Subaru dealers had the part in stock.
I love how most of Subaru drivetrain is interchangeable! My 2007 Impreza Wagon 2.5i has a Frankenstein motor, a 99 block, 06 heads, 07 intake, 2010 wrx oil pump, etc. It runs like a top, zero issues for 30k miles, except the classic n/a engine lifter tick, a defective timing belt tensioner, and changing the leaking, oem, 200k plus oil pump. I'll keep this car as long as I can, and honestly, if this motor fails, I'll probably just throw another in it. I love the car too much!
Bought a 2000 Legacy Outback sedan for my son. Though the Legacy was six and seven older and had three times the mileage than my Ford and Chrysler, it was a very superior car in every way. That led me to dump the Ford and Chrysler and buy a new 2013 Subaru Outback. To date our family has owned a total of nine Subaru vehicles. All credit goes back to that Forest Green 2000 Subaru Legacy Outback sedan that we named "Dundee." PS We sold "Dundee" a couple of years ago. I still see it on the road in our home town.
Legacy and Outback are seperate models.
In Australia a Legacy is the Liberty, which are narrower and has less ground clearance than a Outback.
@@robertmitchell6080That model year it was still called the "Legacy Outback", it wasn't until around 2008 that they were split into separate models
I did an oil change on a 260k mile 2011 legacy today. Unfortunately I also need to change out the transmission cooling lines but the parts are reasonable and available.
I absolutely love my 21 cross trek sport, the 2.5l has pulled my 14ft boat out the river in winter floods from the dirt banks & wet grass, pulling the boat 27mpg freeway & mountain snow day trips or to the coast 34 mpg, awesome ride & performance & I'm an aggressive driver.
I've had my Subaru WRX STI 2020 for more than 2 years now. I Daily driver my car and have 0 issues. I stay on top of maintenance as I should and no problems. Also Definitely not slow lol 😂
Brah.. we have the same car… mine is at 16k miles.. got me a ‘14 impreza daily driver tho
Myth: driving a subaru turns you into a lesbian. Myth confirmed 😂.
I just got my laminated card in the mail last week. Bought a 17 Forester for a work vehicle with super low mileage. Now I just have to do a gender transition and start voting democrat and I'll be set.
Has anyone ever figured out why that is? What makes them gravitate towards Subaru…Foresters in particular.
Could never understand why people are so involved with other people's preference or preferences. Someone said the same thing to me as a joke when I got my Subie. Who really cares? 😊
Well I am a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.
This is the biggest one and he couldn’t even make a joke !
Yep, they stopped blowing head gaskets in 2010 but started burning oil till 2017 according to a service advisor I talked to.
These engines tend to shear and break down oil. You will have this issue with most resource conserving oils. Regular off the shelf mobil or Castrol etc using group 3 oils with cheaper not shear stable viscosity improvers will have this issue. You can go with a higher quality group 4 and or 5 oil or even a group 3 higher hths oil which tends to have higher quality viscosity improvers which is why so many people tend to use euro oils in these vehicles. Euro oils tend to use higher quality additives while still being more price conscious vs using something like let's say redline oil for example that's a group 4/5 and on the higher pricing scale of things. Long story short use a better quality oil and change it more often. Most people aren't aware that regular mobil 1 or Castrol edge while marketed as the best is far from it. It's not a bad product but their main products cater towards the price conscious not performance.
If I remember correctly that was only on the 3.6l 6cyl engines.
@@kennethhaven1169 I have an EJ257 and it does burn oil that is of lower quality. Redline, royal purple hps, any higher hths euro oil, HPL and amsoil don't have any of these issues. Just can't use the standard resource conserving mobil 1 off the shelf or you'll burn 1 quart per 3k miles which isn't terrible but still. I'm not burning a drop on HPL oil.
Had a 2014 subaru impreza it did not leak oil,it did not burn oil,i had zero problems for 10 years and 135,000 miles was going to ride another 10 but my local dealer made me an offer i couldn't refuse and i bought a 2024 sport.
The only thing that Subaru struggles with is selling the LEGACY… I’m sad that it’s going away
I've had 4 Subarus over the last 24 years, a Legacy, 2 Foresters and now a Turbo Outback which I really love. The only time a part failed, was a knock sensor in my legacy, apart from that, never one other issue. All Subarus in Australia come complete out of Japan. They have a very high reliability reputation here in Australia.
I owned an '06 2.5i wagon as a 2nd car (1st Subaru) that car was a headache to maintain before the headgasket blew up, spent $8k on a $3k shitbox, and now I own a WRX (also '06) also less headaches including spending less time in the shop. Thanks Mr.Subaru also after binging your vids including Donut and Collector Car Feed, I almost gave up on cars, forever.
Myth or Fact? Do Subarus generally have backup light and camera failure due to faulty backup switch? My 2015 Outback does. Please do a video on this recall.
I initially thought it just affected the backup camera display... no big deal, I just use the mirrors. But the issue is worse, the backup lights also fail, so no one behind me would know if I'm backing up!
Great video! Keep them coming!
Mr.Subaru,keep up the great work,you are a god send!A lot of phonies out there and you know first hand what I am talking about!You are the cats meow!Good Work!
3.6R aren't too shabby in the speed/power department
Agreed I had one it was a 2010 Subaru legacy 3.6r automatic no cvt that think flew . I love that car never had a problem with it never blew a head had to get rid of it bc the engine cradle rotted out I live in NY so rust belt.
Agreed I had one it was a 2010 Subaru legacy 3.6r automatic no cvt that think flew . I love that car never had a problem with it never blew a head had to get rid of it bc the engine cradle rotted out I live in NY so rust belt.
I just bought a 2007 Forester with 335,000 miles on it needs head gaskets, new radiator, brakes and tires. I am gonna just drop a low mileage JDM replacement motor in it. Will be my winter beater.
Don't buy one from JDM Engine Zone (I think that was the company's name). They sold me one that had a bad block and failed after 2000mi. They also refused to warranty it because I put new head gaskets, spark plugs, seals, wires, etc on. There's been several people that have been screwed over by them not backing their sales.
It's not just the WRX or STIs that are fast. I have an 2022 Outback Wilderness, and it is one of the peppiest cars I have ever driven. It's acceleration is better than most vehicles on the market, really only sports cars have better acceleration.
88k mile 2018 Forester. I had to recharge the AC once (mech said no leak), and both rear wheel bearings (44k and 80k miles, in the rust belt with potholes and salted roads). Less than $1000 in repairs, which breaks down to less than $15/mn in repairs.
Wife's 2020 Outback, bought used off a lease. Both from windows, drivers, guides, and passenger window switch replaced under the extended maintenance warranty we paid $1000 for, and the cost came to $1100. Have only had the car for six months.
How about the battery drain issue in (my friends) previously owned 2017 Outback? No one could fix it. He had to get rid of it as he couldn’t park it more than couple days in airport garage to avoid battery drain issues. He went on long term fishing trips from east coast area to western states. I own a 2018 forester touring. It has been very good for me so far. About 90000 miles. I get all maintenance done per book including 3/36 trans fluid drain and fill. My dealer would charge me about 450.00 for coolant change, so I’m getting it done by private mechanic for about 320.00. The battery drain issue is a big black eye for Subaru.
Subaru should have stepped up to the plate and paid its customers for this very expensive repair. Head gasket failure.
From the time I bought my 83 brat to my modern-day later, model STI I have not experienced a single one of these myths. Everything was super reliable for me. And I have seldom owned any other vehicle. So before somebody goes out and starts running their ass, they really should be responsible enough to actually have owned one before making stupid comments. I think The Subaru name is a fantastic one!
My wife and I have a 2005 Turbo Forester, with the 2.5 turbo engine. Yes, it did have the head gasket issue. Never abused, neglected or modified... The turbos are not exempt from this problem...
I aint going to lie, Your stretching it with all subarus being slow as a myth. They are all slow.
Love this channel. Really helped me with my first Subaru.
I recently purchased my first Subaru. Of all things, a JDM V7 STI in WC blue and unmodded except for a cat back. So far so good and I'm loving the boost. I think reliability is an issue where mods are done incorrectly. Not many unmolested STI's around anymore. Mine even has the factory 3 disc cd changer head unit.
What's with Subarus constantly burning out headlight bulbs? My dad had a brand new crosstrek that burned through bulbs constantly and apparently this is a common problem...What causes this?
My brothers 2013 Subaru Impreza does the same thing and it's always on the passenger side.
Was replacing bulbs every 6 months. The high heat of the bulb chamber caused the connectors to slip and eventually short the bulb. I solved it by picking up some high-temp pigtail connectors. The ends are ceramic and grip much better. Haven't replaced a bulb since.
yo! just bought a new OB Touring top spec (2.5 NA) available here in EU. we get heavy winters. my previous rig for many years was lifted Land Cruiser. if you want any hard winter content I can totally share stuff with you privately. car gets delivered second week of Sept. let me know if you want me to test any proper winter stuff. good job on the channel!
I'll take Subi over every brand all day everyday.. Fun and reliable and that AWD is the best in the world by far. Only thing is they dont get the best gas mileage but its good enough. You'll never get stuck in a subaru.
No, obviously we first take into account 4 wheel drive and AWD are different. Then we move to technology that actually works in AWD. The vehicles with Haldex, mainly VW and Audi but not always, are indeed the best.
@@alexandergunaka666 Not even close. Subaru has proved its drastic superiority time and time and time again.. over and over ad nauseam
@@alexandergunaka666 Isn't Haldex a FWD based and only sends power to the rear when slip occurs? Curious how a reactive AWD system works better for low traction environment vs Subaru AWD that always keeps the center diff at least partially engaged.
@@nick58585858 Best way to explain its benefits is the driveshaft is always engaged to the rear even when not using the rear differential. As soon as a sensor detects wheel slip it engages with a hydraulic pump and clutch.
We own a 2003 Forester that we purchased about 5 years ago. At the time we purchased it the odometor read just a little over 80,000 miles. It recently went over 120,000 miles and we've been very happy with the performance and cost of maintenance. So far maintenance has consisted of oil changes, rear wheel bearing replacement, transmission fluid and filter change, radiator flush and front and rear brake job. I would not hesitate buying another Subaru!
I hear comments, like the myths that you’re saying and I’ve owned 6 Subarus now since I was 16. I took a break for a while got lost in Volkswagens. And I’ve really never had any major issues. I’ve done a few clutches in old 90s legacies I’ve pulled the engine out of my old 84 gl. parts are cheap Maintenance is simple, doing head gaskets on my 2011 outback right now. At 160k miles. My dad’s owned two a 98 legacy that needed head gaskets at 180k and they traded it in on a 2010 it had 265k miles on it! The 2010 has had a valve body and head gaskets at 180k. Miles I mean what do you people want 500k miles with no issues 😂. That 2010 first model with the cvt literally only had tires breaks and oil changes no cvt service it’s still driving. I find that incredible.
I like the fact you point out that any car can be good or bad, it depends on how you maintain it. I just got my first subaru. I went with a 2019 Impreza hatchback, cause it fits my needs best for the amount of miles I commute and hobbies I have. My only complaint so far is the handling. Part of my drive is a road thats got good bends and turns, this has always been my favorite part of my daily drive. This subaru is kind of ruined that cause it handles so dang good and its making the road too easy to rip through even 10mph over the speed limit. lol
I am the original owner of an 07 WRX TR. My power steering pump was replaced and other than that it's been good with regular maintenance. It's never been flashed or modded and I believe when left stock, are very reliable.
I’ve been shopping for a new car for my wife. We are on her second jeep and every time it hits 100k it seems the issues start snowballing. And these are major issues not something I can fix in a day in the garage so I’m throwing in the towel on any Chrysler products. After watching a ton of your videos we are picking up our first Subaru a 2022 Outback on Tuesday.
Subarus do go thru wheel bearings faster than most others. I'm on my 4th Subaru, and the three previous all needed wheel bearings at around 80K. A myth is that only liberals, women or LGBT folk buy them.
we just bought a 2024 Crosstrek 2.0L, has enough power for us, of course we have been driving Chev cavalier for the last 15 years so this crosstrek is AMAZING for us!! thanks for your videos
I just bought one from my daughter. Her first car. It is awesome. Nicest car in the family and we have nice cars.
I have a 2018 Crosstrek with the FB16 engine. Only 116 horsepower, but for what I do with it, it is perfectly adequate. I can do basic servicing myself and I love the AWD system when the weather gets heavy. If you want expensive-to-maintain cars - I would recommend a BMW.
Subarus are basically legos when it comes to parts i love it
2002 WRX with 243K+ miles and a 3.6R Outback with 150K+ miles everything original!! .... no problems, very reliable.... my only criticism is with ball bearings... whoever designed or select the wheel and other ball bearings needs to go back to remedial design school.
5:50 Oh man I got my first non-subatu (honda crv) and it really sucks needing to pull out into traffic. Fwd sucks when you want some power from a stop 😢
I've owned 3 subarus. I had a 2002 Wrx wagon, 2013 Crosstrek, and 1996 Impreza Outback Wagon. In all my time being a subaru owner, not once did a head gasket fail. The all wheel drive system in each is top notch. Wrx and Sti parts can be and are expensive, especially with the older subarus. The only subaru i had a problem with was the crosstrek. It burned so much oil in between oil changes. That got expensive. Although, i really liked how well the Crosstrek took spirited turns.
I moved from the pnw to Charleston sc 6 years ago. The problem with drivers here in the snow is lack of experience. In low country at least a fwd car will take you anywhere you need to go. I have a awd escape. The best part of it is that is just for wet pavement.
Web info.
“While detonation is what damages the pistons, it's important to know that the EJ20 (EJ207 / EJ205), EJ25 (EJ255 / EJ257), and FA20 all have brittle pistons due to Subaru's material and design choices. The pistons are cast hypereutectic aluminum-silicon (Al-Si) alloy; a very common material choice for modern engines. Well proven engines like the 2JZGTE, 4G63, SR20DET, RB26DETT, LSX, K-Series, and others all use Al-Si alloys.
However, Al-Si alloys can vary depending on the percentage of silicon in the material. Subaru has opted for a "hypereutectic" alloy which is a high-silicon (12+%) mix. This makes the piston have extremely low thermal expansion, and allows Subaru to run an extremely tight piston-to-bore clearance. The high-silicon content also makes the piston considerably stronger than aluminum itself. For example, a 9% silicon (by wt.) alloy has a 14% higher yield strength than a 7% silicon alloy. This strength comes at a cost: fracturing”
Solution IAG fully built!!
Subaru's safety extends beyond their AWD also. They have a roll cage built into its uni body. This is why Subaru's in the past weren't available with sunroofs for a while. They preferred to keep customers safer at the risk of losing sales. They can pass the frontal crash tests on either driver or passenger side. Some makes only pass the usual side tested which is the left side here in the USA. Subaru's value for money is second to none. And as soon as you learn to work on one, you can then work on any of them. I love Subaru's and will never not own one again. I've owned GM, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Toyota and Nissan. Subaru beats them all.
People like to complain that they are hard to maintain, but you can literally pull the engine and transmission in under two hours
Only Subaru guys think being able to pull the engine easily is a good feature. You should never have to pull the engine in the first place if it was any good 😂
My daily is WRX, my enthusiast is a BRZ tS. Anytime I buy another brand I regret it and always come back to Subaru. But I like the no frills, raw mechanical feel of them as opposed to the gadgetry and electronics all other brands seem to be pushing.
To add to the shared parts segment, when I purchased my 2001 outback I found out that the suspension is basically interchangeable between the forrest, impreza, and legacy. Allowing for very easy lowering or raising of any of those vehicles, because you can just get the stock suspension from the other models in the lineup, and the difference is just the height you get when installed.
In my owners manual for my 13 legacy 3.6 they recommend me putting in that “special Subaru additive” which is Barrs stop leak…. I think I was supposed to put it in at like 100,000 miles I’m a 150 ….. I’ve never put that crap in there. I’ve changed the coolant a couple times over the years.
Thank you for having a bunch a great points in this video on maintenance and how the vehicle is driven. Old coworker of mine had his dad help him get a gorgeous 2016 rally blue sti with the bronze brushed rims (as god intended lol). After he went on and on about all the upgrades he was gonna do to his brand new car, I remember an article super street did back in the day about the ej25 and how you really should upgrade from the block out as at 305hp, it doesn't liked being pushed much farther due to thermal issues, bottle necking etc. So i informed him of that, and of course he didn't listen to a word i said and upgraded to a stage 1 turbo without a full tune or upgrade to the engine as "he wanted to win at the drag strip. Mind you this was his DAILY and that is an absolutely horrible idea to do for a daily driven car (unless you have boat loads of money to maintain it).
I rode with him once he got some of those upgrades and he kept letting the engine bounce off the rev limiter multiple times because" he liked the way it sounded". once again i told him thats a bad idea and that most engines including boxsters don't last long if you do that all the time. Of course he waves me off and said he knows his car and its fine.... welp at around 13k miles, he pulls up to work in a base model impreza as the inevitable happened. After subara got a hold of his car letting he know he blew the whole motor, they replaced it but had him sign a contract stating he would not put ANY aftermarket parts as they would not honor the warranty . I was shocked to even hear they replaced it after what i'm sure they found to have a seriously abused car I hope he learned his lesson and that goes for any vehicle. You can't abuse your car thinking it's a race car and expect it to last forever. and if you really care about your vehicle you have to maintain it properly
I'm glad that I came across your channel. I'm tired of all the hate people online give Subies because of the previous head gasket issue.
I Love my 2016 WRX STI and in fact she's getting a set of ISC N1 V2 Coilovers installed as I write this. I live in the mountains in California so AWD is extremely useful in the winter when we can get a lot of snow and when the weather is good driving the STI on the super curvy mountain roads is a blast. I feel like she's completely in her element in this environment. It would be great if I could find a good mechanic around here who is as passionate about Subies as you are.
My 2006 outback just had the head gaskets done at 83,000 miles. The dealership did the job but they put the original style gaskets in. I hope to get at least 100k miles before doing that again.
How much does it cost?
AWD on a twisty, rainy road: security
Have had 3 Impreza's and from the first one I fell in love with the traction in wet weather. Heavy downpours on the interstate in Florida with lots of standing water the Impreza just blast right along and never gets squirrely. Yes the 5 door is a grocery getter and not a super power house at 152hp, but it gets the job done and I'm well pleased with it. I have 86K on a 2020 now and plan to drive it for 300K at least. All maintenance is always kept up to date and there are never any problems. Subaru is a very reliable car and I wouldn't drive anything else. ( watch crash test online - very impressive )
I have a 00 outback at 316K, 08 forester at 294K, and a 04 OBS at 205K all of which start every time and go every time! The outback eats a little oil between fill ups but the total amount of oil that it eats is about a quart (between oil changes) so not bad!
Did you replace head gaskets on any of them
I blew a head gasket on my 2018 STI with only 40,000kms, completely stock and unmodified.
It's still an issue.
I have a 2017 Impreza and I was actually impressed with the pickup for a 152hp engine. I'm not out trying to race on the roads, it's just fine for an everyday vehicle. It's actually better then the 3.6 205hp 2003 Jeep Liberty I had, the Jeep is heavier though but still it didn't pickup very well.
Dude you look so familiar. I grew up in Fort Lawn, SC, I see you are from SC. Anyway, I was doing research about buying a Subaru for my daughter for a first car, so that is how I came across your channel.
My 18 sti has only got 21k miles on it after 5 years of ownership. Another decade I’ll have a diamond in the rough lol
My subaru outback 2010 , 100k miles now, manual - clutch went kaput at 90k, exhaust pipe corroded, but Subaru covered it, now A/c is down with coolant failure flashing. I am not sure what else is going to fail soon. I like the vehicle except for one thing.. the darn thing is slow and has no oomph to ramp up with 170hp. I honestly feel all Subarus must be minimum at 250hp
I would guess that the Forester and Outback were /are Subaru's best sellers. I would also guess that the 2.5L naturally aspirated engine was the engine installed in most of those vehicles. Since the "affected model years" of those engines had a 100% failure rate, I imagine that is how they earned (yes, earned in my opinion) the generalized reputation / public perception that "Subarus have bad head gaskets". I bet Subaru wishes they could go back and erase those gaskets from history, as that "serious internal engine issue" has given Subaru a black eye that lasted for decades. In 2010, I very nearly bought a "new" (model-year-end 2009) Forester. It was a nice looking vehicle, but I opted for a used 2008 Toyota instead (I thought I needed 3rd row seating...) The '09 Forester was definitely the better-looking vehicle, but the Toyota is still on the road with pretty much just general maintenance, so I'm happy with my choice. Now (actually beginning in 2014) the newer Foresters have been ugly (Crosstrek's look better, but only in their high $ trim). Of course, that is just my opinion, perhaps not shared by others. I also think Tesla Cybertrucks are ugly, but some people like the design...
Mr. Subaru you should take a trip up north sometime with your rig and you'll fall even deeper in love when snowfall is a daily occurence 😂.
Great video I love the support for the community!
can you make a video on knock readings, DAM, and things like that?
He is not a tuner check out heavymetalwrx and look up DAM he has a conversation with Graham from Boosted Performance on DAM
Regarding head gasket failures, I see many reports of Crosstrek failures on the 2.0 l engine and several with engine failures on FB marketplace. Seems to be more common 2014 and earlier. How common is this. Correlation to abuse?
Of course, with MY bad luck, I bought the 2011 Subaru Legacy used, about 10 years ago. when I bought it, it only had 42,000 miles on it. This past year, I only 30,000 more miles on it. I didn't drive it all that much. Still, low and behold, it developed the head gasket issue this past November. I took it in for regular service every one or two years. I had spent $3000 at the dealership to do a full service, fix joints and arms underneath, new tires and so on. That was in September. So only about 2 months after, the head gasket issue began.
Going round and round about either replacing the gasket or putting a rebuilt engine in was the dilemma. I eventually opted for the rebuilt engine from a company who does mostly just this. They rebuild engines and offer a 6 year-unlimited mile warranty. So finally, after getting someone to do it, it was recently completed, except for the codes issues. That got remedied. But, today, the red light of death, once again started blinking, then went solid today. I began overheating. I can't take this crap. I have spent at least half of what I bought this for 10 years ago, with only 72,000 miles on it that I've accumulated on it. Now what?! Help!!!!!!
Have them use the head gaskets that were used in the 2.5 sti turbo.
@@danielfair4675 The rebuilt engine that is now installed has that better gasket. That was one of the things that sold me on it, is that it has the better gasket already in it, so hopefully, I won't have to deal with these problems for a long time, or as long as I own the car anyway.
I just found out the cause of the battery drain issue. If you believe AAA auto club article. It is a bad battery sensor on the neg terminal. It’s terrible and unforgivable that Subaru didn’t replace battery terminal connectors on affected vehicles like the 2017 Outback. Maybe they did, but not in case of my friend.
Subarus are great for Mud-Bogging in the Francis Marion Forest! Especially my old BRAT
My 2011 Outback has 403,000 miles original engine. I drive it every day like an old man.
Step 1 to avoid ringland failure don't over boost it by double factory settings. 😂